Aldnoah.Zero 2nd Season Episode 8 Discussion

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Elouda said:
Looks like Slaine's plans just got MazuuREKT.

That pun is horribly beautiful and you should feel bad

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Darklight0303 said:

Elouda said:
Looks like Slaine's plans just got MazuuREKT.

That pun is horribly beautiful and you should feel bad

Mazurek will make....

Slaine dance in frustration.

Mar 1, 2015 1:13 PM

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I'm really wondering how Mazuurek is gonna keep Hime safe if it comes down to that, the guy doesn't even have a kata ;_;

And I doubt Sleipnir would get upgraded at this point.

Well his Kat isn't made for space so having it wouldn't change things too much.

Also don't destroy my small wishes like that.......i can hope for an upgrade or Cruheto to come back with a mask right?

Maz is not yet suspect,
AND Seylum probably trusts him
AND Eddilrutsuo** seems willing to help M and S.

We have the makings of an escape attempt.

** she appears loyal to Seylum and Lemrima and sweet talked Slaine a bit, couple of eps back. Do we know where her loyalties really lie?

Mar 1, 2015 2:04 PM

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Intriquing. Lemrina finally broke, discovering the truth along the way. As has the Sleeping Beauty. Mazuurek is also turning out to be more interesting than I originally thought.

The battle was awesome, as always. Inaho and the crew must have been rather surprised to see actual teamwork used against them.

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Elouda said:
Looks like Slaine's plans just got MazuuREKT.

I hate myself for laughing at this.

Nice to see the Vers combatants actually being a legit threat for once.

Mar 1, 2015 6:49 PM

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So good episode. Waiting for Hime's reaction.

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Oh look another fanboy/fangirl who doesn't see how Slaine fucked up that encounter for himself. What a surprise.

The real suprise here is you being so totally consumed with petty hate towards a fictional character that you are actually bringing into real life to insult others for giving their own honest opinion based on their valid judgement, get over it.

Mar 1, 2015 7:03 PM

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Viktor_Otaku said:

The real suprise here is you being so totally consumed with petty hate towards a fictional character that you are actually bringing into real life to insult others for giving their own honest opinion based on their valid judgement, get over it.

Valid judgment even though it was proven it isn't. Keep dreaming

Mar 1, 2015 7:06 PM

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Slaine's treatment of Lemrina bothers me on multiple levels, really.

The emotional level, of making muh cripple princess cry because people in anime can never get over initial infatuation.

The second emotional level, where at least if you can't love her be friends, Christ, there's no reason you can't help her out. Why do you have to say she can't find solace? It probably wouldn't be that hard, just fucking BE there for her even as a friend and comrade.

The logical level, of not actually working together as a team when it would still be beneficial. She always knew Asseylum could come back. There's no reason she can't still work with you if so.

And the second logical level, where if you're going to lie to her, at least do the very basics, like still pretend everything is good and lock obvious doors like the empty tube room.

Wasted potential. Tormenting the few characters I like. Urgh. Thanks Obama.

I really think that the writers are horribly indecisive here, they can't seem to make up their minds on which person Slaine should be with. They could be doing this to make Slaine a tragic hero/persona. But if badly done it is going to flop hard. Lemrina is as you said sadly, somewhat of a waster potential. Here we see a character with somewhat of a will and is manipulative enough to carried it out, but at the first sight of affection she seems to leave it all behind.

The story is borked up badly, on one side we get very static characters who does not change their ideas and views throughout the entire season, on the other we get people who have entire mood swings based on what they had for dinner or something like that.

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CookingPriest said:

Darklight0303 said:

That pun is horribly beautiful and you should feel bad

Mazurek will make....

Slaine dance in frustration.

Hopefully Mazuurek plays his cards right, Slaine is not so easily fooled by Counts who are quick to form an alliance.

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Darklight0303 said:

Viktor_Otaku said:

The real suprise here is you being so totally consumed with petty hate towards a fictional character that you are actually bringing into real life to insult others for giving their own honest opinion based on their valid judgement, get over it.

Valid judgment even though it was proven it isn't. Keep dreaming

He was stating that he wants to see what Slaine wants to do, and you automatically translate it into him proclaiming his undying love to Slaine, guess the delusional one here is you, stop smoking that Slaine-hate pot there, it is gonna leave you brain dead.

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Well his Kat isn't made for space so having it wouldn't change things too much.

Also don't destroy my small wishes like that.......i can hope for an upgrade or Cruheto to come back with a mask right?

I would rather they not, the writer would then have to invent some unbelievable survival story and Cruheto would mostly likely be there to perform some deux ex machina which would be terribly done.

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YES. The beginning of Slaine's downfall has finally happened.

Stupid Slaine...thinking that Lemrina wanted a place of solace. No, dumbass, she just wanted you to notice her.

Also have fucking scumbag Slaine blatantly saying that Lemrina is on a fixed amount of usefulness when he says "I'll keep using her...for now". And he also admits to not wanting Asseylum to get her memories back because he knows he's fucked then.

And then he had the worst of both worlds happen. Asseylum remembered, and Lemrina found out her sister is gone, and will probably assume she's alive just from the way Slaine's been acting (plus he never told her she died or got moved, just "took a turn for the worse")

Count Mazuurek going in there and absolutely thrashing everyone without them even known it. Played Lemrina like a goddamn flute without her knowing what he was going, and she fell right into it. And managed to sneak by Slaine during his moon commute and talk to Eldy.

It would've been ballsy as fuck if he like found Asseylum, put a cloaking thing on her, and left with her and Eldy back to his ship.

Mar 2, 2015 12:30 AM

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so...everyone is losing their sanity..

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YES. The beginning of Slaine's downfall has finally happened.

Stupid Slaine...thinking that Lemrina wanted a place of solace. No, dumbass, she just wanted you to notice her.

Also have fucking scumbag Slaine blatantly saying that Lemrina is on a fixed amount of usefulness when he says "I'll keep using her...for now". And he also admits to not wanting Asseylum to get her memories back because he knows he's fucked then.

And then he had the worst of both worlds happen. Asseylum remembered, and Lemrina found out her sister is gone, and will probably assume she's alive just from the way Slaine's been acting (plus he never told her she died or got moved, just "took a turn for the worse")

Count Mazuurek going in there and absolutely thrashing everyone without them even known it. Played Lemrina like a goddamn flute without her knowing what he was going, and she fell right into it. And managed to sneak by Slaine during his moon commute and talk to Eldy.

It would've been ballsy as fuck if he like found Asseylum, put a cloaking thing on her, and left with her and Eldy back to his ship.

Slaine KNOWS what happened to Seylum on earth(befriending Terrans); he was suspicious of all Vers when she was missing, but doesn't say boo, doesn't blink an eye at Mazuurek.

Slaine's his own worst enema.

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Slaine's his own worst enema.

I believe you mean Enemy. Enema is something else entirely and I suggest you don't look it up.

But yes that has been the case from the very first season.

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Darklight0303 said:

awditty said:

Slaine's his own worst enema.

I believe you mean Enemy. Enema is something else entirely and I suggest you don't look it up.

But yes that has been the case from the very first season.

word choice was quite deliberate; google "pun"

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awditty said:

Darklight0303 said:

I believe you mean Enemy. Enema is something else entirely and I suggest you don't look it up.

But yes that has been the case from the very first season.

word choice was quite deliberate.

Hahaha very well. Just making sure :P

Mar 2, 2015 5:48 AM

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Janeel said:
so...everyone is losing their sanity..

I thought no one had any sanity to begin with.

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Jonesy974 said:
Also have fucking scumbag Slaine blatantly saying that Lemrina is on a fixed amount of usefulness when he says "I'll keep using her...for now".

9:20 "happily fulfilling her role of extending our power base.
for the time being at least."(said with eyes down)

I took this as an honest admission that he knows he's mis-using her.

That he knows she is co-operating at the moment but he expects to pay for his abuse of trust, and soon.

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at 9:00

"Nothing is less reliable than a knight's vow of loyalty."

I don't know if Harklight ever heard Slaine swear loyalty to Saaz, but if he did the exchange at 8:55 is interesting

doubly ironic if Harklight later turns out to have sympathies toward Lemrima and Slaine swore loyalty to her as well ...

Slaine: zero appreciation of irony visible in this exchange
Harklight: some appreciation?

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Darklight0303 said:

awditty said:

word choice was quite deliberate.

Hahaha very well. Just making sure :P

don't get me started on colostomy bag puns.

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Even Inaho can't take on the forces of Lightning, Invisibility, and Duplication at the same time.
Deucalion to the rescue! Inaho's eye is too useful; so this is when the side effects begin.

Slaine doesn't want Princess Asseylum to get her memories back. Because of this, Princess Lemrina's getting hurt.
But damn, Lemrina discovers that Asseylum is awake and Mazuurek sends the Pendant of Memories to Asseylum.
This may be the point where Slaine's world starts to crumble.

I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling.

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Fireego said:
Even Inaho can't take on the forces of Lightning, Invisibility, and Duplication at the same time.
Deucalion to the rescue! Inaho's eye is too useful; so this is when the side effects begin.

Slaine doesn't want Princess Asseylum to get her memories back. Because of this, Princess Lemrina's getting hurt.
But damn, Lemrina discovers that Asseylum is awake and Mazuurek sends the Pendant of Memories to Asseylum.
This may be the point where Slaine's world starts to crumble.

Lemrina will go full Tsundere.

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Fireego said:
Even Inaho can't take on the forces of Lightning, Invisibility, and Duplication at the same time.
Deucalion to the rescue! Inaho's eye is too useful; so this is when the side effects begin.

Slaine doesn't want Princess Asseylum to get her memories back. Because of this, Princess Lemrina's getting hurt.
But damn, Lemrina discovers that Asseylum is awake and Mazuurek sends the Pendant of Memories to Asseylum.
This may be the point where Slaine's world starts to crumble.

Lemrina will go full Tsundere.

Think you mean Yandere

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Slaine is insane in the memebrain

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Best episode so far...and also, Mazuurek the best guy

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VerkaCC said:
Best episode so far...and also, Mazuurek the best guy

I fear Mazuurek might become the villain, he is loyal to the Old Vers and finds Slaine a threat to it.Also considering how fast he made alliance with Slaine not to mention he knows about Asseylum's encounter with the UFE.I dont trust him at all.

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VerkaCC said:
Best episode so far...and also, Mazuurek the best guy

I fear Mazuurek might become the villain, he is loyal to the Old Vers and finds Slaine a threat to it.Also considering how fast he made alliance with Slaine not to mention he knows about Asseylum's encounter with the UFE.I dont trust him at all.

Never heard something more ridiculous

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wow, there are still people thinking that Slaine is not the main villain?

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kymano said:

VerkaCC said:
Best episode so far...and also, Mazuurek the best guy

I fear Mazuurek might become the villain, he is loyal to the Old Vers and finds Slaine a threat to it.Also considering how fast he made alliance with Slaine not to mention he knows about Asseylum's encounter with the UFE.I dont trust him at all.

Did you miss several episodes in a row? Or has Slaine fanaticism became this bad?

Stop making up dumb fan fiction and watch the show properly will you?

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wow, there are still people thinking that Slaine is not the main villain?

They are still trying to justify Slaine even after this episode with ridiculous delusions.

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And another thing to note...

Mazuurek's voice is charming. Bewitching, really.

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kymano said:

I fear Mazuurek might become the villain, he is loyal to the Old Vers and finds Slaine a threat to it.Also considering how fast he made alliance with Slaine not to mention he knows about Asseylum's encounter with the UFE.I dont trust him at all.

Never heard something more ridiculous

Thats because you dont pay attention to obvious fore-shadowing, Mazuurek clearly wants to get back at Slaine, not only that but get back at Asseylum.
Wasnt it Asseylum the one who gave the UFE that warship which Inaho used to defeat Mazuurek, who then took away his mecha,locked him up,strip-searched him and interrogate him before busting him out.The only reaction Mazuurek gave was a smile? A smile? That doesnt look very convincing considering what they put him through.
Dont forget Slaine who did the most damage by killing Saazbaum,taking his place as well as his priviliges over the moonbase, but wait Slaine also killed his mentor,took his landing castle and after getting bored of whipping the Vers Counts ,Slaine parted ways and created a new colony apart from the Vers, made allaince with Barouhcruz and took over the entire space under his colony.
Not forget when Mazuurek encountered Barouhcruz he clearly went out on throwing dirt on Slaine before Barouhcruz silenced him.

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kymano said:

Darklight0303 said:

Never heard something more ridiculous

Thats because you dont pay attention to obvious fore-shadowing, Mazuurek clearly wants to get back at Slaine, not only that but get back at Asseylum.
Wasnt it Asseylum the one who gave the UFE that warship which Inaho used to defeat Mazuurek, who then took away his mecha,locked him up,strip-searched him and interrogate him before busting him out.The only reaction Mazuurek gave was a smile? A smile? That doesnt look very convincing considering what they put him through.
Dont forget Slaine who did the most damage by killing Saazbaum,taking his place as well as his priviliges over the moonbase, but wait Slaine also killed his mentor,took his landing castle and after getting bored of whipping the Vers Counts ,Slaine parted ways and created a new colony apart from the Vers, made allaince with Barouhcruz and took over the entire space under his colony.
Not forget when Mazuurek encountered Barouhcruz he clearly went out on throwing dirt on Slaine before Barouhcruz silenced him.

I pay more attention to foreshadowing than you ever will with your fanfictions

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Who wants people to die? They don't just kill off any characters that come on screen in a episode or two, there are rarely any deaths involved and that's how anime should be, when someone dies, it should have a major impact, This is not Akame ga Kill and if you want this great series to turn out like that then go watch Hellsing or something.

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VerkaCC said:
Best episode so far...and also, Mazuurek the best guy

I fear Mazuurek might become the villain, he is loyal to the Old Vers and finds Slaine a threat to it.Also considering how fast he made alliance with Slaine not to mention he knows about Asseylum's encounter with the UFE.I dont trust him at all.

Did you miss several episodes in a row? Or has Slaine fanaticism became this bad?
Slaine made wise decisions of not trusting Counts, Mazuurek on the other hand find Slaine a threat to Vers and wanted to snuff him out but failed.
Considering why would Mazuurek help Asseylum? Take this if a Admiral sniffed you out and found that you had allies on the enemies side,not only that but he knew the names of those whom you are allied with ,would thing be looking good for you? BLACKMAIL is more like it and Slaine wont be happy when he finds out whats Mazuurek's up to.

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kymano said:

Darklight0303 said:

Never heard something more ridiculous

Thats because you dont pay attention to obvious fore-shadowing, Mazuurek clearly wants to get back at Slaine, not only that but get back at Asseylum.
Wasnt it Asseylum the one who gave the UFE that warship which Inaho used to defeat Mazuurek, who then took away his mecha,locked him up,strip-searched him and interrogate him before busting him out.The only reaction Mazuurek gave was a smile? A smile? That doesnt look very convincing considering what they put him through.
Dont forget Slaine who did the most damage by killing Saazbaum,taking his place as well as his priviliges over the moonbase, but wait Slaine also killed his mentor,took his landing castle and after getting bored of whipping the Vers Counts ,Slaine parted ways and created a new colony apart from the Vers, made allaince with Barouhcruz and took over the entire space under his colony.
Not forget when Mazuurek encountered Barouhcruz he clearly went out on throwing dirt on Slaine before Barouhcruz silenced him.

How much anime do you watch dude? , the guy is definitely not that type of sleazy character, he's a tsundere type for sure.

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Darklight0303 said:

kymano said:

Thats because you dont pay attention to obvious fore-shadowing, Mazuurek clearly wants to get back at Slaine, not only that but get back at Asseylum.
Wasnt it Asseylum the one who gave the UFE that warship which Inaho used to defeat Mazuurek, who then took away his mecha,locked him up,strip-searched him and interrogate him before busting him out.The only reaction Mazuurek gave was a smile? A smile? That doesnt look very convincing considering what they put him through.
Dont forget Slaine who did the most damage by killing Saazbaum,taking his place as well as his priviliges over the moonbase, but wait Slaine also killed his mentor,took his landing castle and after getting bored of whipping the Vers Counts ,Slaine parted ways and created a new colony apart from the Vers, made allaince with Barouhcruz and took over the entire space under his colony.
Not forget when Mazuurek encountered Barouhcruz he clearly went out on throwing dirt on Slaine before Barouhcruz silenced him.

I pay more attention to foreshadowing than you ever will with your fanfictions

Are you this ignorant or are you so caught up in this phobia against Slaine to not see any of these events? Mazuurek cannot be the good guy when he clearly benefits off this war, why would he want to help Asseylum after he knew she screwed him over?

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kymano said:

Thats because you dont pay attention to obvious fore-shadowing, Mazuurek clearly wants to get back at Slaine, not only that but get back at Asseylum.
Wasnt it Asseylum the one who gave the UFE that warship which Inaho used to defeat Mazuurek, who then took away his mecha,locked him up,strip-searched him and interrogate him before busting him out.The only reaction Mazuurek gave was a smile? A smile? That doesnt look very convincing considering what they put him through.
Dont forget Slaine who did the most damage by killing Saazbaum,taking his place as well as his priviliges over the moonbase, but wait Slaine also killed his mentor,took his landing castle and after getting bored of whipping the Vers Counts ,Slaine parted ways and created a new colony apart from the Vers, made allaince with Barouhcruz and took over the entire space under his colony.
Not forget when Mazuurek encountered Barouhcruz he clearly went out on throwing dirt on Slaine before Barouhcruz silenced him.

How much anime do you watch dude? , the guy is definitely not that type of sleazy character, he's a tsundere type for sure.

Not very much anime, but Mazuurek has always been the silent type, even though i judge him by the company he kept(Barouhcruz and Marylcian) plus he makes statements that he'll never sell out his country yet he sided with Slaine quickly after it was seen that he has no authority to stop Slaine(Since Slaine is not with Vers).His methods are suspicious.

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kymano said:

blackfortys40 said:

How much anime do you watch dude? , the guy is definitely not that type of sleazy character, he's a tsundere type for sure.

Not very much anime, but Mazuurek has always been the silent type, even though i judge him by the company he kept(Barouhcruz and Marylcian) plus he makes statements that he'll never sell out his country yet he sided with Slaine quickly after it was seen that he has no authority to stop Slaine(Since Slaine is not with Vers).His methods are suspicious.

Trust me dude, this type of thing always happens in anime, the guy(Mazuurek) gets close the the opposition (Slaine) only to gain the trust of the opposing side or perhaps changed their view........then the opposing side eventually finds out and they go into a war, the guy has issues with Slaine yes, but it's not because of personal hatred, it's because he wants to unite earth and mars, which was foreshadowed by his reaction when Inaho deduced that he actually wanted peace.

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blackfortys40 said:

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Not very much anime, but Mazuurek has always been the silent type, even though i judge him by the company he kept(Barouhcruz and Marylcian) plus he makes statements that he'll never sell out his country yet he sided with Slaine quickly after it was seen that he has no authority to stop Slaine(Since Slaine is not with Vers).His methods are suspicious.

Trust me dude, this type of thing always happens in anime, the guy(Mazuurek) gets close the the opposition (Slaine) only to gain the trust of the opposing side or perhaps changed their view........then the opposing side eventually finds out and they go into a war, the guy has issues with Slaine yes, but it's not because of personal hatred, it's because he wants to unite earth and mars, which was foreshadowed by his reaction when Inaho deduced that he actually wanted peace.

Yes, but Mazuurek benefits off the war, his motives when interrogating Lemrina then Eddelrittuo are different, he has personal hatred against Slaine but is in no position to stop Slaine so he sided with Slaine to get to Asseylum.Mazuurek's on a hypothesis but he doesnt know the outcome.

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kymano said:

blackfortys40 said:

Trust me dude, this type of thing always happens in anime, the guy(Mazuurek) gets close the the opposition (Slaine) only to gain the trust of the opposing side or perhaps changed their view........then the opposing side eventually finds out and they go into a war, the guy has issues with Slaine yes, but it's not because of personal hatred, it's because he wants to unite earth and mars, which was foreshadowed by his reaction when Inaho deduced that he actually wanted peace.

Yes, but Mazuurek benefits off the war, his motives when interrogating Lemrina then Eddelrittuo are different, he has personal hatred against Slaine but is in no position to stop Slaine so he sided with Slaine to get to Asseylum.Mazuurek's on a hypothesis but he doesnt know the outcome.

I don't understand, his motives for interrogating lemrita were to find out if she was lying or not....why would he ask her about her time on earth of all things? and he went to elduelritta to give her the pendant, what interrogation was there of elduelritta?

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blackfortys40 said:

kymano said:

blackfortys40 said:

kymano said:

blackfortys40 said:

kymano said:

Darklight0303 said:

kymano said:

VerkaCC said:
Best episode so far...and also, Mazuurek the best guy

I fear Mazuurek might become the villain, he is loyal to the Old Vers and finds Slaine a threat to it.Also considering how fast he made alliance with Slaine not to mention he knows about Asseylum's encounter with the UFE.I dont trust him at all.

Never heard something more ridiculous

Thats because you dont pay attention to obvious fore-shadowing, Mazuurek clearly wants to get back at Slaine, not only that but get back at Asseylum.
Wasnt it Asseylum the one who gave the UFE that warship which Inaho used to defeat Mazuurek, who then took away his mecha,locked him up,strip-searched him and interrogate him before busting him out.The only reaction Mazuurek gave was a smile? A smile? That doesnt look very convincing considering what they put him through.
Dont forget Slaine who did the most damage by killing Saazbaum,taking his place as well as his priviliges over the moonbase, but wait Slaine also killed his mentor,took his landing castle and after getting bored of whipping the Vers Counts ,Slaine parted ways and created a new colony apart from the Vers, made allaince with Barouhcruz and took over the entire space under his colony.
Not forget when Mazuurek encountered Barouhcruz he clearly went out on throwing dirt on Slaine before Barouhcruz silenced him.

How much anime do you watch dude? , the guy is definitely not that type of sleazy character, he's a tsundere type for sure.

Not very much anime, but Mazuurek has always been the silent type, even though i judge him by the company he kept(Barouhcruz and Marylcian) plus he makes statements that he'll never sell out his country yet he sided with Slaine quickly after it was seen that he has no authority to stop Slaine(Since Slaine is not with Vers).His methods are suspicious.

Trust me dude, this type of thing always happens in anime, the guy(Mazuurek) gets close the the opposition (Slaine) only to gain the trust of the opposing side or perhaps changed their view........then the opposing side eventually finds out and they go into a war, the guy has issues with Slaine yes, but it's not because of personal hatred, it's because he wants to unite earth and mars, which was foreshadowed by his reaction when Inaho deduced that he actually wanted peace.

Yes, but Mazuurek benefits off the war, his motives when interrogating Lemrina then Eddelrittuo are different, he has personal hatred against Slaine but is in no position to stop Slaine so he sided with Slaine to get to Asseylum.Mazuurek's on a hypothesis but he doesnt know the outcome.

I don't understand, his motives for interrogating lemrita were to find out if she was lying or not....why would he ask her about her time on earth of all things? and he went to elduelritta to give her the pendant, what interrogation was there of elduelritta?

When Mazuurek interrogated Lemrina , he had an hypothesis that Slaine was trying to fully create an Imposter Asseylum but it turned out Slaine never told Lemrina of Asseylum's experiences and connections on Earth which is why he stopped.His interrogation with Eddelrittuo , he hypothesis that Eddelrittuo was with Asseylum on Earth, after getting through with wordplay he mentioned Inaho's name to see if he can get a reaction.That reaction was never given so its most likely that Mazuurek is still in hypothesis because he was not clear on how Asseylum would react when given Slaine's necklace(which he got from Inaho)

Mar 2, 2015 4:15 PM

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kymano said:

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Best episode so far...and also, Mazuurek the best guy

I fear Mazuurek might become the villain, he is loyal to the Old Vers and finds Slaine a threat to it.Also considering how fast he made alliance with Slaine not to mention he knows about Asseylum's encounter with the UFE.I dont trust him at all.

Never heard something more ridiculous

Thats because you dont pay attention to obvious fore-shadowing, Mazuurek clearly wants to get back at Slaine, not only that but get back at Asseylum.
Wasnt it Asseylum the one who gave the UFE that warship which Inaho used to defeat Mazuurek, who then took away his mecha,locked him up,strip-searched him and interrogate him before busting him out.The only reaction Mazuurek gave was a smile? A smile? That doesnt look very convincing considering what they put him through.
Dont forget Slaine who did the most damage by killing Saazbaum,taking his place as well as his priviliges over the moonbase, but wait Slaine also killed his mentor,took his landing castle and after getting bored of whipping the Vers Counts ,Slaine parted ways and created a new colony apart from the Vers, made allaince with Barouhcruz and took over the entire space under his colony.
Not forget when Mazuurek encountered Barouhcruz he clearly went out on throwing dirt on Slaine before Barouhcruz silenced him.

How much anime do you watch dude? , the guy is definitely not that type of sleazy character, he's a tsundere type for sure.

Not very much anime, but Mazuurek has always been the silent type, even though i judge him by the company he kept(Barouhcruz and Marylcian) plus he makes statements that he'll never sell out his country yet he sided with Slaine quickly after it was seen that he has no authority to stop Slaine(Since Slaine is not with Vers).His methods are suspicious.

Trust me dude, this type of thing always happens in anime, the guy(Mazuurek) gets close the the opposition (Slaine) only to gain the trust of the opposing side or perhaps changed their view........then the opposing side eventually finds out and they go into a war, the guy has issues with Slaine yes, but it's not because of personal hatred, it's because he wants to unite earth and mars, which was foreshadowed by his reaction when Inaho deduced that he actually wanted peace.

Yes, but Mazuurek benefits off the war, his motives when interrogating Lemrina then Eddelrittuo are different, he has personal hatred against Slaine but is in no position to stop Slaine so he sided with Slaine to get to Asseylum.Mazuurek's on a hypothesis but he doesnt know the outcome.

I don't understand, his motives for interrogating lemrita were to find out if she was lying or not....why would he ask her about her time on earth of all things? and he went to elduelritta to give her the pendant, what interrogation was there of elduelritta?

When Mazuurek interrogated Lemrina , he had an hypothesis that Slaine was trying to fully create an Imposter Asseylum but it turned out Slaine never told Lemrina of Asseylum's experiences and connections on Earth which is why he stopped.His interrogation with Eddelrittuo , he hypothesis that Eddelrittuo was with Asseylum on Earth, after getting through with wordplay he mentioned Inaho's name to see if he can get a reaction.That reaction was never given so its most likely that Mazuurek is still in hypothesis because he was not clear on how Asseylum would react when given Slaine's necklace(which he got from Inaho)

You're probably over thinking this bud. He asked Lerima those questions to confirm his doubts. After doing so he gave the necklace to the real Asseylum to stop slaine/because inaho told him too. imo hes a pretty straight forward character.

MasterDetectiveMar 2, 2015 4:25 PM

Mar 2, 2015 4:39 PM

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