Aldnoah.Zero 2nd Season Episode 6 Discussion

blazehero said:
So much drama in such a short period.

Slaine has his duel with Count racist and kills him in a pretty fucked up way. No one wants to die in the emptiness of space.

Looks like Slaine is settling with Lemrina, thinking that her true princess Alesseyum will never awaken thus the blue flower.

Inaho truly is a mysterious character. Of course he wants to save the princess, but he doesn't want anyone else to be hurt either. Inevitably someone is going to be hurt for what he tries to do.

And the princess awakens. Time for this drama train to go into hype mode.

KamiAlice said:
This wasn't anything new though, if he was able to look down from space, we can assume he could look up from the earth can we not? It's not like they are adding anything new other than showing Inaho not even caring about his eye if he "can't see" the princess. It's an irrelevant complaint from you the viewer. There is no reason for you to complain about it, unless you're nitpicking.
Nitpicking about a scientific possibility in a science fiction genre is like nitpicking about magic in a fantasy.

KamiAlice said:

This is assuming there is no pressure from other fronts, we have a narrow view dealing with Inaho and company. We have no clue if there are or are not resistances on other fronts. Given that it was stated by sausbamm that there were resistances then we can assume Inaho and company are not the only ones pushing back.

Bluebirds22 said:

No me digas, eres mexicanito.

Inugirlz said:


So what if its not new? I didn't bring it up before so now i am. repeating OP skills is still an OP skill. Before he was looking down from space while in his machine, presumedly with assistance from his machine's cameras and his eye. Compared to now, during his free time sitting by the water and looking up at the moon to watch the battle. Why is it so easy for him to spy on the martians? I have plenty of reason to complain. It's unnecessary. Excessive. Like I said, even Inko notices his seemingly endless capabilities.



I don't see why that matters. The fact of the matter is these counts keep attacking the deucalion, which has Inaho on it and is known to be a formidable opponent yet they don't learn. And every time they lose, they lose because they don't use their brain and rely entirely on their machines. And because of not learning from this fault they keep dying and getting their valuable machines destroyed.

Comander-07 said:
Am I the only one who still likes Slaine?

o123o said:
Sazzb was the best character.... But we just had to get rid of him......

seujair31 said:


Brasil, desde 2007, viviendo en Italia, por motivos de trabajo.

seujair31 said:

you just know criticize and find fault in Inaho, the more you do not see the gary-stu updates that Slaine received in the second season, as super pilot skills mecha, and super super intelligence and cunning during fights.
Your comments are tendencios and totally biased.

Inugirlz said:

I don't see why that matters. The fact of the matter is these counts keep attacking the deucalion, which has Inaho on it and is known to be a formidable opponent yet they don't learn. And every time they lose, they lose because they don't use their brain and rely entirely on their machines. And because of not learning from this fault they keep dying and getting their valuable machines destroyed.

alcrowry said:
Huh, about time the princess is awake. Next episode should be more interesting...

seujair31 said:

Por supuesto, latino, de ninguna otra manera alguien sabria de las rancias telenovelas que produce Mexico, al menos de esa productora.

Bluebirds22 said:


Sy, Maria la del bairro, Marimar, Maria Mercedes, Ursupadora e A madrastra, tuvieron mucho éxito en Brasil.
Más del programa fue más exitoso en Brasil, El Chavo del Ocho fue la muerte de Roberto Bolaños, tuvo gran repercusión en Brasil. Todos eran mucho sentido con su muerte

Comander-07 said:
I think Slaine will get some new Op ability during the next episodes to encounter the crazy eye of inaho. Because without his Tharsis he wouldn't stand a chance, thats sad, I think he is the most interesting character of the show, since we dont have some character developement.

I somehow like this season more than the first, lacks the annoying "everything is allright" moments. they have war. people die. its not allright. I really hope big princess don't brings this innocent child aspect back.

Darklight0303 said:
OH SNAP SHE AWAKES! Oh this is going to be glorious! The Honeymoon is about to come to an end

leelee619 said:


Yeah before it even got started.

seujair31 said:


A mi me gusto Marimar

o123o said:

She will probably have amnesia. So she will probably be as annoying as Manaka was in Asukara when she woke up from hibernation

o123o said:

No way, esas novelas fueron mier.... bueno cada uno con sus gustos.

Bluebirds22 said:


I thought this forum was mainly english? Mod-sama , can you please clarify ._.

o123o said:

No way, esas novelas fueron mier.... bueno cada uno con sus gustos.

Bluebirds22 said:
A gift from Takako Shimura. Sorry if iwas posted before :P

seujair31 said:

you just know criticize and find fault in Inaho, the more you do not see the gary-stu updates that Slaine received in the second season, as super pilot skills mecha, and super super intelligence and cunning during fights.
Your comments are tendencios and totally biased.
you use two pessos and two measures, to comment on things that happen with both characters.
That is the Christed Inaho skills, and simply think normal, the skills gained by Slaine in the second season.
Before criticizing a character, see if it does not have the same changes, or more absurd than changes the character that you insist on criticizing

ZingFreelancer said:

Not to try to insult you or derail the point you are making. However, between season 1 and season 2, Slain had 19 month to train and learn how to properly control Tharsis.

Inugirlz said:


So what if its not new? I didn't bring it up before so now i am. repeating OP skills is still an OP skill. Before he was looking down from space while in his machine, presumedly with assistance from his machine's cameras and his eye. Compared to now, during his free time sitting by the water and looking up at the moon to watch the battle. Why is it so easy for him to spy on the martians? I have plenty of reason to complain. It's unnecessary. Excessive. Like I said, even Inko notices his seemingly endless capabilities.



I don't see why that matters. The fact of the matter is these counts keep attacking the deucalion, which has Inaho on it and is known to be a formidable opponent yet they don't learn. And every time they lose, they lose because they don't use their brain and rely entirely on their machines. And because of not learning from this fault they keep dying and getting their valuable machines destroyed.

o123o said:

"Mainly" ? So whats the other one allowed?

Savethebestforu said:


Bullshit

YumeNoMonogatari said:


This is awesome. Does the artist have a blog where he post this?

Inugirlz said:

Excellent point. Slaine's ability to pilot the Tharsis can be attributed to the type skip. Plus remember who his father was. Dr.Troyard was vital in developing/understanding these mechas. It's not farfetched to say Slaine didn't get some knowledge from him. "Super super intelligence and cunning"? Inaho has this too and its much more pronounced with him. That's the only reason i called out Inaho before Slaine. This recent episode Slaine's intelligence was just him having the foresight to prepare before the battle, he didn't spontaneously win on the spot.

Inugirlz said:


Um not 100% clear on what you said but my point as mainly been that the story isn't written as well as it could of been. And i used Inaho's OP skills as an example for this. It's never been me claiming Slaine is better than Inaho or vice versa. Although you are analyzing things a bit wrong there. KamiAlice has always been good at making points for why things are logical and theoretically possible. Using logic, Slaine can be defended just as well as Inaho can be.



Excellent point. Slaine's ability to pilot the Tharsis can be attributed to the type skip. Plus remember who his father was. Dr.Troyard was vital in developing/understanding these mechas. It's not farfetched to say Slaine didn't get some knowledge from him. "Super super intelligence and cunning"? Inaho has this too and its much more pronounced with him. That's the only reason i called out Inaho before Slaine. This recent episode Slaine's intelligence was just him having the foresight to prepare before the battle, he didn't spontaneously win on the spot.

ANGRY2011 said:


His problem is a hatred of Slaine that is so obsessive that you have to wonder exactly how much time he spends thinking about him...

Darklight0303 said:


You can't deny that it is a little suspicious how the princess woke up after some functions of the pod were turned off momentarily.

ZingFreelancer said:

Sorry man, but I think you are assuming too much. For all that matters, we have no idea what kind of research his father was doing on Aldnoah. Or why suddenly Slain found himself in what looks like a Terran eject pod, with his lungs filled with water.
Funny theory, only Slains father is mentioned, we know nothing of who his mother has been. Could Slain be a tube child?

Slain's battle plan was most likely devised by Harklight, just like with Inaho trap which killed Saazbaum.

ZingFreelancer said:

Sorry man, but I think you are assuming too much. For all that matters, we have no idea what kind of research his father was doing on Aldnoah. Or why suddenly Slain found himself in what looks like a Terran eject pod, with his lungs filled with water.
Funny theory, only Slains father is mentioned, we know nothing of who his mother has been. Could Slain be a tube child?

Slain's battle plan was most likely devised by Harklight, just like with Inaho trap which killed Saazbaum.

OfficialMikoSM said:

Wasn't it implied that Slaine was mapping the whole place beforehand? Sigh, another Inaho fanboys join their ranks, you're the 6th one, congratz. or actually 5th, kami is okay now, not too bias

OfficialMikoSM said:


Wasn't it implied that Slaine was mapping the whole place beforehand? Sigh, another Inaho fanboys join their ranks, you're the 6th one, congratz. or actually 5th, kami is okay now, not too bias

CookingPriest said:


Which most likely was also suggested by Harklight.

OfficialMikoSM said:


key word: most likely

Watch out, your bias is totally showing.

Don't act as if its a fact then, jeez if you're just guessing.

OfficialMikoSM said:


Wasn't it implied that Slaine was mapping the whole place beforehand? Sigh, another Inaho fanboys join their ranks, you're the 6th one, congratz. or actually 5th, kami is okay now, not too bias

seujair31 said:


yes but because they do not give enough highlights to Martian supporting characters as Harklight.
The problem is that Inaho, used a m.e.c.h.a. training, in which he was acustumado, and was used in the gym.
It's different you enter a whole new lock, and out riding as a professional, not even piloted you something like this before.



these skills had not achieved in 19 months, they arose when tharsis was first activated

Makaze_no_Moujuu said:


Except that's all Slaine haters do; claim speculation, and their own bias misconceptions, as fact.

They are nearly incapable of having a sensible convo about this series w/o exhibiting some form of their anger towards this character.

Honestly, how did this happen? The fanboy/shipping war? I wasn't here for season 1.

ZingFreelancer said:

Video is private, can't be viewed.
On the other hand you are being overly zealous in your hate towards Slain.

Inaho and class had been taking battle training for what seemed to be like their first semester, second semester at best. Which involves taking some time off from school, perhaps once a week? Some of his class mates was outright terrible at piloting Sleipnir, indicating they did not take it too seriously or that expectations was set pretty low.

Inaho, being portrayed as a prodigy was able to achieve better than average piloting skills. I would assume Inaho is the silent, intelligent type without any particular life goals, just going with the flow of events. When marsians invaded, with little motivation from his sister, Trillarm and princess he decided to fight. The rest of the season he basically goes with the flow while trying to find his place in the system, he is just a student, not a soldier, but he is pretty good at being the later. I do like how he outranks his sister in the second season.

I would not read too much into Slain's early piloting skills, 99% of what happened was a plot device. Hostile forces are invading the landing castle, he escapes in Tharsis, couple of mech's trying to take him down but fails, then he rams Inaho right before he kills Saazbaum, saving Saazbaum life, effectively dooming the princess in the process. This situation is no different from when Cruhteo was after Slain, yet Slain manages to board a transport aircraft and get away with 9 soldiers firing their handguns at him. When a character has a plot shield, he has a plot shield until his role is completed.
19 month to learn how to properly pilot Tharsis is actually way too much. I will quote myself, but in order to master any skill, it will require on average 10.000 hours of practice. 19 month amount to roughly 13.800 hours, enough time for Slain to power up off screen.