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Jan 13, 2015 8:06 PM

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Fate/Grand What in the actual fuck? More milking, I suppose... lol


It's a phone and tablet MMO, Nasu wrote some scenerios, but the majority are going to other typemoon writers. Character designs are done by a giant list of artists, pretty much everyone related to typemoon has had their hands in it.

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Fate/Grand_Order
It's Grand all right.
Jan 13, 2015 10:39 PM

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hope the new Tsukihime remake includes some remixes from the EVER AFTER ost. def love track 6. it's very ominous and builds a lot of tension. not that the other track is bad but this one i like more

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I guess waiting for the remake to be released before I read Tsukihime is wishful thinking, right?
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Jan 13, 2015 10:49 PM

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Mickdrew said:
I guess waiting for the remake to be released before I read Tsukihime is wishful thinking, right?
well they do have to update entire thing which is looking at the F/SN VN and the tsukihime VN they do have quite a bit of work to do in terms of backrounds. there are likely gonna be animations and voice acting plus an entire new route to be written...yea there is quite a bit to go into the remake of tsukihime if it were to be up to standard of Fate and Mahoyo...especially mahoyo. we're talkin about a VN that came out before TYPE-MOON was really a "thing" when you compare it to even the 2004 fate/stay night it feels dated.
Jan 13, 2015 10:53 PM

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Thing is, even if it has a new route, voice acting, and new art, how long will it take to be translated and patched for us?

Yeah, don't think it's worth it. I'll see about the manga or the old VN
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Jan 13, 2015 11:01 PM

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Mickdrew said:
Thing is, even if it has a new route, voice acting, and new art, how long will it take to be translated and patched for us?

Yeah, don't think it's worth it. I'll see about the manga or the old VN
maybe just check out the manga if you really wanna save your VN experience for the remake? I havent read the manga myself i just hear mostly good things about it. i'm just starting the last route of the VN and the story of the previous routes are amazing. going into this route having read the previous ones just gives a whole big perspective on the characters.
Jan 13, 2015 11:03 PM

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chickenonthepan said:
Arc design sucks.


Arc and Ciel's designs outright make me want to puke.

Ciel look slike a fucking K-On moeblog instead of a badass tomboy nerd.
Jan 13, 2015 11:03 PM

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Maloghurst said:
Mickdrew said:
Thing is, even if it has a new route, voice acting, and new art, how long will it take to be translated and patched for us?

Yeah, don't think it's worth it. I'll see about the manga or the old VN
maybe just check out the manga if you really wanna save your VN experience for the remake? I havent read the manga myself i just hear mostly good things about it. i'm just starting the last route of the VN and the story of the previous routes are amazing. going into this route having read the previous ones just gives a whole big perspective on the characters.


Reading the manga while waiting for the remake is an interesting idea....

Thanks :D
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Jan 13, 2015 11:11 PM

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CookingPriest said:
chickenonthepan said:
Arc design sucks.


Arc and Ciel's designs outright make me want to puke.

Ciel look slike a fucking K-On moeblog instead of a badass tomboy nerd.
like i said i think i'll wait til i see Ciel in full on executioner mode before i pass final judgement until then i dont particularly like her new design but i think it works for the facade the puts up.
Jan 13, 2015 11:25 PM

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CookingPriest said:
chickenonthepan said:
Arc design sucks.


Arc and Ciel's designs outright make me want to puke.

Ciel look slike a fucking K-On moeblog instead of a badass tomboy nerd.


Oddly enough the new redesign for Arc is more aligned to the original model the designer had in mind.
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Jan 13, 2015 11:30 PM

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Mickdrew said:
Maloghurst said:
maybe just check out the manga if you really wanna save your VN experience for the remake? I havent read the manga myself i just hear mostly good things about it. i'm just starting the last route of the VN and the story of the previous routes are amazing. going into this route having read the previous ones just gives a whole big perspective on the characters.


Reading the manga while waiting for the remake is an interesting idea....

Thanks :D

well honestly i'm not sure it's a good idea to save the vn experience because we al know it's gonna take a LOOOOOONG time, but if you are not in a hurry at all.
Jan 13, 2015 11:32 PM

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F/SN is what was released first, wasn't it? I was talking with my friend about that, it can't be that since F/Z was made after F/SN. Is it mostly anime secondaries who think that? Not much people know there's a VN of F/SN.
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AnNobody said:
F/SN is what was released first, wasn't it? I was talking with my friend about that, it can't be that since F/Z was made after F/SN. Is it mostly anime secondaries who think that? Not much people know there's a VN of F/SN.


It was released in 2004 as a VN, F/Z's LN was released in 2006
Jan 14, 2015 3:24 AM

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Mickdrew said:
I guess waiting for the remake to be released before I read Tsukihime is wishful thinking, right?

Assuming it even comes out anytime soon, the Translation is going to take ages.
Just read the original.
AnNobody said:
F/SN is what was released first, wasn't it? I was talking with my friend about that, it can't be that since F/Z was made after F/SN. Is it mostly anime secondaries who think that? Not much people know there's a VN of F/SN.

Yes, F/SN is the original work.
Jan 14, 2015 7:19 AM

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Mickdrew said:
Maloghurst said:
maybe just check out the manga if you really wanna save your VN experience for the remake? I havent read the manga myself i just hear mostly good things about it. i'm just starting the last route of the VN and the story of the previous routes are amazing. going into this route having read the previous ones just gives a whole big perspective on the characters.


Reading the manga while waiting for the remake is an interesting idea....

Thanks :D

Do yourself a favor - don't wait for the remake. I don't know anything about the manga, but you're probably going to read a subpar version of the story and not get to see the remake anytime soon if you do that.

Just stick to the novel if you don't want to wait, since the remake has been announced for years and yet there isn't even a freaking release date. At the end of the day, I decided to read it because fuck waiting for a remake that is likely to take years to come out. That, and the fact that the novel is actually pretty cool and fun. So why wait?
Jan 14, 2015 8:47 AM

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Is there anybody here who can compare the VN with the manga? I'm getting mixed signals.

Is the VN far superior? How does the manga stack up?
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Insertanamehere said:
Mickdrew said:
I guess waiting for the remake to be released before I read Tsukihime is wishful thinking, right?

Assuming it even comes out anytime soon, the Translation is going to take ages.
Just read the original.


Assuming that the only additions in narrative are Sacchin's route, couldn't they just plop the old translation into the new VN? Perhaps the original translation wasn't that good, I dunno, but it'd sure be efficient and leave only one route left to be translated.

Mickdrew said:
Is there anybody here who can compare the VN with the manga? I'm getting mixed signals.

Is the VN far superior? How does the manga stack up?


Both the VN and the manga are good.

The Tsukihime manga has the clear distinction of being an adaptation with elements from other routes that fans are actually okay with. It's totally awesome, and if you want a straightforward experience full of Tsukihime's character interaction and battles, then I'd recommend the manga best. Though, it only follows the Arcueid route, and you WILL miss out on a few story aspects in the VN.

Not to say it's far superior, but the Tsukihime VN does provide a better, overall more immersive experience, what with five routes to play and all. Personally, I do prefer the VN myself, but the manga is not bad at all either~
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Both the VN and the manga are good.

The Tsukihime manga has the clear distinction of being an adaptation with elements from other routes that fans are actually okay with. It's totally awesome, and if you want a straightforward experience full of Tsukihime's character interaction and battles, then I'd recommend the manga best. Though, it only follows the Arcueid route, and you WILL miss out on a few story aspects in the VN.

Not to say it's far superior, but the Tsukihime VN does provide a better, overall more immersive experience, what with five routes to play and all. Personally, I do prefer the VN myself, but the manga is not bad at all either~


I second this opinion.

Tsukihime manga is a rare instance that manage to incorporate elements from other route into Arc's route and still feel not very out of place. Of course the original would still be better than its derivative (I sounded like Goldy here :P) but it stills a really really good adaptation.

But if you have time, you can go for a VN for the best experience, especially if the game version has a remix version of the musics.
Jan 14, 2015 9:48 AM

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Mickdrew said:
Is there anybody here who can compare the VN with the manga? I'm getting mixed signals.

Is the VN far superior? How does the manga stack up?

To put it simply, the manga is really good, but the VN is better. You could try reading VN-->Manga, I guess.
MercifulPriest said:

Assuming that the only additions in narrative are Sacchin's route, couldn't they just plop the old translation into the new VN? Perhaps the original translation wasn't that good, I dunno, but it'd sure be efficient and leave only one route left to be translated.

I don't know whether it's good or not, though there will almost certainly be changes and/or additional scenes from the original. And didn't they translate most of F/SN 2012 over again instead of copying the Mirror-Moon translation anyway?
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MercifulPriest said:

Both the VN and the manga are good.

The Tsukihime manga has the clear distinction of being an adaptation with elements from other routes that fans are actually okay with. It's totally awesome, and if you want a straightforward experience full of Tsukihime's character interaction and battles, then I'd recommend the manga best. Though, it only follows the Arcueid route, and you WILL miss out on a few story aspects in the VN.

Not to say it's far superior, but the Tsukihime VN does provide a better, overall more immersive experience, what with five routes to play and all. Personally, I do prefer the VN myself, but the manga is not bad at all either~

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To put it simply, the manga is really good, but the VN is better. You could try reading VN-->Manga, I guess.


Awesome, thanks guys.
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Jan 14, 2015 9:51 AM

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Reading through a text only version and it's quite good.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
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Ciel look slike a fucking K-On moeblog instead of a badass tomboy nerd.


Well I don't think she's that bad but I consider it a downgrade as well.

Especially if I compare the new one to Melty Blood!Ciel
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that is just wrong....
Jan 14, 2015 10:16 AM

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CookingPriest said:
chickenonthepan said:
Arc design sucks.


Arc and Ciel's designs outright make me want to puke.

Ciel look slike a fucking K-On moeblog instead of a badass tomboy nerd.
those boots....
Jan 14, 2015 10:18 AM

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Maloghurst said:
CookingPriest said:


Arc and Ciel's designs outright make me want to puke.

Ciel look slike a fucking K-On moeblog instead of a badass tomboy nerd.
like i said i think i'll wait til i see Ciel in full on executioner mode before i pass final judgement until then i dont particularly like her new design but i think it works for the facade the puts up.


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Maloghurst said:
like i said i think i'll wait til i see Ciel in full on executioner mode before i pass final judgement until then i dont particularly like her new design but i think it works for the facade the puts up.


MAL......PLZ....
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Heisen said:
Maloghurst said:
like i said i think i'll wait til i see Ciel in full on executioner mode before i pass final judgement until then i dont particularly like her new design but i think it works for the facade the puts up.



That showed up as your sig, by the way, MAL is broken
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Heisen said:



That showed up as your sig, by the way, MAL is broken


Then:
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2014/260/6/c/moonlit_night_by_lilitjya-d7zhseu.jpg
Jan 14, 2015 10:38 AM

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She looks like she is pouting and wanting to kill you with moe in that deviant art fanart -__-
Jan 14, 2015 10:57 AM

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I am reading through the manga atm, and i really like it^^
i am at chapter 40 right now, and Arc somehow is a combination of the best of Saber and Illya put together xD :D

After i finish the manga i plan to read through the VN later
black1blade said:
Reading through a text only version and it's quite good.

It exists?
can i find it on the interwebz?

Otherwise, i planned to ''read'' it on youtube (Xerblade)
Jan 14, 2015 10:59 AM

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Why would you even want to read a text only version? >.>
Jan 14, 2015 11:00 AM

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Yeah but apparently the music isn't too amazing and I prefer to blitz through it without having videos buffer. (also read the manga so yeah) [url]http://lparchive.org/Tsukihime/[/url]

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Jan 14, 2015 11:01 AM

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It's got pics too.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Jan 14, 2015 11:05 AM

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well if anything you read the text only LP archive site for the greatest H-scene censoring you will ever see.
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Insertanamehere said:
Why would you even want to read a text only version? >.>

1) i am not really a VN player myself (altough i plan to play through F/SN UBW and HF soon)
2)my Internet has been a bitch in the last 2 weeks, so the less buffering the better.
3)Remake won't come out soon it seems.

@black1blade: Thanks for the link :)
Jan 14, 2015 11:08 AM

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I don't mind. The commenter guy can be pretty funny at times. I mean it kept the succubus scene (they chose kohaku and akiha ;shudders;) which was pretty bad. (Probably has sexy pics in VN but I'm not reading it for sexy time so having just text is a great compromise)

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
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Insertanamehere said:
Why would you even want to read a text only version? >.>

1) i am not really a VN player myself (altough i plan to play through F/SN UBW and HF soon)
2)my Internet has been a bitch in the last 2 weeks, so the less buffering the better.
3)Remake won't come out soon it seems.

@black1blade: Thanks for the link :)

Kay.
But why just UBW and HF?
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Shrimperor said:
Insertanamehere said:
Why would you even want to read a text only version? >.>

1) i am not really a VN player myself (altough i plan to play through F/SN UBW and HF soon)
2)my Internet has been a bitch in the last 2 weeks, so the less buffering the better.
3)Remake won't come out soon it seems.

@black1blade: Thanks for the link :)

Haved you gone through fate yet? Seriously do that even with info dumps. I would definitely watch vids for f/sn as the music is really good and the visual effects are pretty good. (tsuki's are a bit simple apparently). Also f/sn has voices (amazing voices)

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
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Fate has some of the coolest action sequences (for saber anyway) and good mystery elements (although you probably already know who all the servants are but still fun if you get immersed in shirou's character). UBW assumes you've read fate so skips first assassin fight ect.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Jan 14, 2015 11:13 AM

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Maloghurst said:
well if anything you read the text only LP archive site for the greatest H-scene censoring you will ever see.

i am not reading it for the scenes,
infact, the less, the better xD

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Kay.
But why just UBW and HF?

Because they are the ones i don't know much about (espicially HF), so they take Priority.
I know alot about Fate, and it would be a pain to read through a story where you will know everything that is about to happen.
And i am not really fond of Fate-shirou (Partly Blame the poisoning by the old adaptions, but i can't help it)

I may still read it later, but the others take priority.
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Without stuff in fate route HF wont make too much sense.
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It's meant to be in order. I didn't like f/sn deen shirou but it makes his actions make more sense. Also important stuff about nasuverse saber lore. Also the finale was actually quite good.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
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Just read it in order even if you get bored. It's worth it.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
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Because they are the ones i don't know much about (espicially HF), so they take Priority.
I know alot about Fate, and it would be a pain to read through a story where you will know everything that is about to happen.
And i am not really fond of Fate-shirou (Partly Blame the poisoning by the old adaptions, but i can't help it)

I may still read it later, but the others take priority.

What CP said. And it does a much better job with it's characters and story than DEEN or the manga.
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Just read it in order even if you get bored. It's worth it.

I may fast-read through it, or maybe read it somewhere online so i can jump between scenes when i see that i already know it (which is, pretty much everything, except monologues, maybe), or i get bored.
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Also destroy the "people die when they are killed" is stupid thingy.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Jan 14, 2015 11:24 AM

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black1blade said:
Just read it in order even if you get bored. It's worth it.

I may fast-read through it, or maybe read it somewhere online so i can jump between scenes when i see that i already know it (which is, pretty much everything, except monologues, maybe), or i get bored.

It is much better than the anime. Even the fight scenes are better. Worth it for the music alone imo.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
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While it is the weakest of all the routes it isn't throw away by any means. Fate shirou is a lot better when your in his head for 20hours.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
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