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Do you believe anime is objectifying all women?
Jan 26, 2015 5:12 PM
#201
NessieFynn said: As with all media, sometimes. All lot of that fanservice-harem schlock that comes out and season and is forgotten the next I would certainly call objectifying. But all anime? Certainly not.There are plenty of shows that handle thier female characters just fine without any sort of objectification, such as Kuragehime, FMA/Brotherhood, and Gatchaman Crowds, to name a few. Yeah, I hate how some people/feminists are saying that anime is objectifying women. Like really? Men sometimes get objectified as well. The street works both ways. And I certainly agree with you on those anime though. |
Jan 26, 2015 5:20 PM
#202
dustinator1991 said: NessieFynn said: As with all media, sometimes. All lot of that fanservice-harem schlock that comes out and season and is forgotten the next I would certainly call objectifying. But all anime? Certainly not.There are plenty of shows that handle thier female characters just fine without any sort of objectification, such as Kuragehime, FMA/Brotherhood, and Gatchaman Crowds, to name a few. Yeah, I hate how some people/feminists are saying that anime is objectifying women. Like really? Men sometimes get objectified as well. The street works both ways. And I certainly agree with you on those anime though. If both groups get objectified, it doesn't mean one group isn't being objectified. Reevaluate your comment. |
It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
Jan 26, 2015 5:23 PM
#203
YandereTheEmo said: dustinator1991 said: NessieFynn said: As with all media, sometimes. All lot of that fanservice-harem schlock that comes out and season and is forgotten the next I would certainly call objectifying. But all anime? Certainly not.There are plenty of shows that handle thier female characters just fine without any sort of objectification, such as Kuragehime, FMA/Brotherhood, and Gatchaman Crowds, to name a few. Yeah, I hate how some people/feminists are saying that anime is objectifying women. Like really? Men sometimes get objectified as well. The street works both ways. And I certainly agree with you on those anime though. If both groups get objectified, it doesn't mean one group isn't being objectified. Reevaluate your comment. Yes, I know that if both groups get objectified though, it doesn't cancel one group getting mistreated. But in anime, men get treated bad as well but no one cares much about that. It's about the female part. It is like feminists and some others, are trying to start a fight with "Anime" when it clearly has nothing to do with them. One word: Victim! |
Jan 26, 2015 5:23 PM
#204
dustinator1991 said: I think it's far more common for women to be objectified in anime since anime mostly targets males. I can probably name 10 anime that obectifies women for every one you mention that objectify men.NessieFynn said: As with all media, sometimes. All lot of that fanservice-harem schlock that comes out and season and is forgotten the next I would certainly call objectifying. But all anime? Certainly not.There are plenty of shows that handle thier female characters just fine without any sort of objectification, such as Kuragehime, FMA/Brotherhood, and Gatchaman Crowds, to name a few. Yeah, I hate how some people/feminists are saying that anime is objectifying women. Like really? Men sometimes get objectified as well. The street works both ways. And I certainly agree with you on those anime though. |
Jan 26, 2015 5:27 PM
#205
AnimeSweden said: dustinator1991 said: I think it's far more common for women to be objectified in anime since anime mostly targets males. I can probably name 10 anime that obectifies women for every one you mention that objectify men.NessieFynn said: As with all media, sometimes. All lot of that fanservice-harem schlock that comes out and season and is forgotten the next I would certainly call objectifying. But all anime? Certainly not.There are plenty of shows that handle thier female characters just fine without any sort of objectification, such as Kuragehime, FMA/Brotherhood, and Gatchaman Crowds, to name a few. Yeah, I hate how some people/feminists are saying that anime is objectifying women. Like really? Men sometimes get objectified as well. The street works both ways. And I certainly agree with you on those anime though. It may be common to be targeted toward males. But then again, there are different types of anime. Such as yaoi and reverse harems, which is targets to the female audience. It doesn't change the fact that men are being objectified as well. Japan loves making what they love. And that is anime. Their culture is different than the rest of the world. And it seems like many people are putting their culture into Japan's culture. But they are two totally different worlds. You know what I mean? |
Jan 26, 2015 5:27 PM
#206
AnimeSweden said: dustinator1991 said: I think it's far more common for women to be objectified in anime since anime mostly targets males. I can probably name 10 anime that obectifies women for every one you mention that objectify men.NessieFynn said: As with all media, sometimes. All lot of that fanservice-harem schlock that comes out and season and is forgotten the next I would certainly call objectifying. But all anime? Certainly not.There are plenty of shows that handle thier female characters just fine without any sort of objectification, such as Kuragehime, FMA/Brotherhood, and Gatchaman Crowds, to name a few. Yeah, I hate how some people/feminists are saying that anime is objectifying women. Like really? Men sometimes get objectified as well. The street works both ways. And I certainly agree with you on those anime though. It's also different types of 'objectification.' |
It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
Jan 26, 2015 5:35 PM
#207
Not all, but a lot do. Especially modern otaku-pandering shows. |
Jan 26, 2015 5:35 PM
#208
dustinator1991 said: Sure there are fanservice both ways, but the difference in the amount of shows targeting each group is huge. Seeing girls doing random things while showing off as much skin as possible isn't exactly uncommon when we talk about male fanservice. I'm not sure but I don't think I've seen or heard of any show that features boys doing random things while showing as much skin as possible. Free! comes to mind but then again it is a show about swimming so it's not strange to see a lot of skin.AnimeSweden said: dustinator1991 said: NessieFynn said: As with all media, sometimes. All lot of that fanservice-harem schlock that comes out and season and is forgotten the next I would certainly call objectifying. But all anime? Certainly not.There are plenty of shows that handle thier female characters just fine without any sort of objectification, such as Kuragehime, FMA/Brotherhood, and Gatchaman Crowds, to name a few. Yeah, I hate how some people/feminists are saying that anime is objectifying women. Like really? Men sometimes get objectified as well. The street works both ways. And I certainly agree with you on those anime though. It may be common to be targeted toward males. But then again, there are different types of anime. Such as yaoi and reverse harems, which is targets to the female audience. It doesn't change the fact that men are being objectified as well. Japan loves making what they love. And that is anime. Their culture is different than the rest of the world. And it seems like many people are putting their culture into Japan's culture. But they are two totally different worlds. You know what I mean? |
Jan 26, 2015 5:41 PM
#209
AnimeSweden said: dustinator1991 said: Sure there are fanservice both ways, but the difference in the amount of shows targeting each group is huge. Seeing girls doing random things while showing off as much skin as possible isn't exactly uncommon when we talk about male fanservice. I'm not sure but I don't think I've seen or heard of any show that features boys doing random things while showing as much skin as possible. Free! comes to mind but then again it is a show about swimming so it's not strange to see a lot of skin.AnimeSweden said: dustinator1991 said: I think it's far more common for women to be objectified in anime since anime mostly targets males. I can probably name 10 anime that obectifies women for every one you mention that objectify men.NessieFynn said: As with all media, sometimes. All lot of that fanservice-harem schlock that comes out and season and is forgotten the next I would certainly call objectifying. But all anime? Certainly not.There are plenty of shows that handle thier female characters just fine without any sort of objectification, such as Kuragehime, FMA/Brotherhood, and Gatchaman Crowds, to name a few. Yeah, I hate how some people/feminists are saying that anime is objectifying women. Like really? Men sometimes get objectified as well. The street works both ways. And I certainly agree with you on those anime though. It may be common to be targeted toward males. But then again, there are different types of anime. Such as yaoi and reverse harems, which is targets to the female audience. It doesn't change the fact that men are being objectified as well. Japan loves making what they love. And that is anime. Their culture is different than the rest of the world. And it seems like many people are putting their culture into Japan's culture. But they are two totally different worlds. You know what I mean? I know the amount targeting females and males is huge. But doesn't change the fact that males are being objectified as well. It's the nature of the beast. Sure, lots of anime shows the female's skin. It has become a norm for anime now days. And I don't like shows that are yaoi. Not my thing. When Japan makes anime, it is targeted toward their audience. And they love what they love. They have fetishes. If other people from other countries like it, great. But if other people don't like it, oh well. Their opinion won't stop Japan from making more of the same kinds of anime. You know what I mean? |
Jan 26, 2015 5:47 PM
#210
It compensates by beating having the girls beat the everliving shit out of the guys. That makes it much less sexist than real life. |
Jan 26, 2015 5:54 PM
#211
yes it does objectify all women but I don't really care I'm already sick off all these feminists especially in regards to video games and tv shows ughh thank god the japanese are different we can have hot girls with large boobs and big asses everywhere and almost no one bitches hopefully it will stay that way anime just like other mediums is supposed to entertain but some people just take it way too seriously |
Jan 26, 2015 6:00 PM
#212
Journey_95 said: yes it does objectify all women but I don't really care I'm already sick off all these feminists especially in regards to video games and tv shows ughh thank god the japanese are different we can have hot girls with large boobs and big asses everywhere and almost no one bitches hopefully it will stay that way anime just like other mediums is supposed to entertain but some people just take it way too seriously Japanese people operate differently than the rest of the world. So I hate when other people force their ideals/cultures into their life/society. You can't compare two things that are vastly different. I agree, I actually think I seen a petition for women being objectified in video games too. Feminists NEED to stop. I am so happy that the Japanese are their own people. They have their reasons for making the girls that way. Many of the Japanese love their 2-D girls. Many say 2-D are not girls, rather than data. And some of those Japanese guys would rather interact with the 2-D girls versus the 3-D girls or real girls. Yes, anime is another medium that is used to entertain and many people take it too seriously. Japan is designing what they love, not what you love. You know? |
Jan 26, 2015 6:06 PM
#213
dustinator1991 said: Journey_95 said: yes it does objectify all women but I don't really care I'm already sick off all these feminists especially in regards to video games and tv shows ughh thank god the japanese are different we can have hot girls with large boobs and big asses everywhere and almost no one bitches hopefully it will stay that way anime just like other mediums is supposed to entertain but some people just take it way too seriously Japanese people operate differently than the rest of the world. So I hate when other people force their ideals/cultures into their life/society. You can't compare two things that are vastly different. I agree, I actually think I seen a petition for women being objectified in video games too. Feminists NEED to stop. I am so happy that the Japanese are their own people. They have their reasons for making the girls that way. Many of the Japanese love their 2-D girls. Many say 2-D are not girls, rather than data. And some of those Japanese guys would rather interact with the 2-D girls versus the 3-D girls or real girls. Yes, anime is another medium that is used to entertain and many people take it too seriously. Japan is designing what they love, not what you love. You know? You do realise feminists exist in Japan as well? Also, most all of the Japanese do not have a "2-D girl" that they dearly love. |
Jan 26, 2015 6:10 PM
#214
Jan 26, 2015 6:14 PM
#215
dustinator1991 said: Feminists NEED to stop. I'm a feminist bruh. I don't wanna remove sexy women in anime for you or anyone. I like them too. But I do want to remove the thinking that women in anime are weaker than men. Gender stereotypes are boring and also very common in anime. For example, how often do you see the dad in any SOL do the cooking and the mother doing nothing at all when it's dinner time? |
Jan 26, 2015 6:14 PM
#216
NessieFynn said: dustinator1991 said: Journey_95 said: yes it does objectify all women but I don't really care I'm already sick off all these feminists especially in regards to video games and tv shows ughh thank god the japanese are different we can have hot girls with large boobs and big asses everywhere and almost no one bitches hopefully it will stay that way anime just like other mediums is supposed to entertain but some people just take it way too seriously Japanese people operate differently than the rest of the world. So I hate when other people force their ideals/cultures into their life/society. You can't compare two things that are vastly different. I agree, I actually think I seen a petition for women being objectified in video games too. Feminists NEED to stop. I am so happy that the Japanese are their own people. They have their reasons for making the girls that way. Many of the Japanese love their 2-D girls. Many say 2-D are not girls, rather than data. And some of those Japanese guys would rather interact with the 2-D girls versus the 3-D girls or real girls. Yes, anime is another medium that is used to entertain and many people take it too seriously. Japan is designing what they love, not what you love. You know? You do realise feminists exist in Japan as well? Also, most all of the Japanese do not have a "2-D girl" that they dearly love. Yes, I do realize that feminists exist in Japan. But not as the extreme feminists that live in America, sadly but true. When I said, many of the Japanese. I meant to say some. |
Jan 26, 2015 6:19 PM
#217
AnimeSweden said: dustinator1991 said: Feminists NEED to stop. I'm a feminist bruh. I don't wanna remove sexy women in anime for you or anyone. I like them too. But I do want to remove the thinking that women in anime are weaker than men. Gender stereotypes are boring and also very common in anime. For example, how often do you see the dad in any SOL do the cooking and the mother doing nothing at all when it's dinner time? I want equality for both women and men as well. I am not a feminist though. But some take it too far, and push their ideas on a medium of entertainment, such a anime. Those feminists need to think before, because that medium is not directed toward them. The Japanese designed it for their people. If you like it, good. If not, who cares? When there are sexy women in the anime, it makes it better. There is pros/cons to women and men in anime. Sometimes men are weaker, or the woman may be. And sometimes as well, the man always gets beat up by the woman too. Gender stereotypes will always exist. Because people in Japan like what they like. Btw, are you talking about Sola? http://myanimelist.net/anime/1965/Sola/ I can't say for that anime because I haven't seen it. There are times in anime when the female does the cooking. It all just depends. |
Jan 26, 2015 6:45 PM
#218
Some objectify women but the same happens to male.... and anime for the most part isnt meant to be taken seriously. |
Jan 26, 2015 6:47 PM
#219
I don't think anime has to change, but the viewership definitely needs to adopt some sense of conscious awareness, rather than passively accepting things wholesale. |
It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
Jan 26, 2015 6:59 PM
#220
Jan 26, 2015 6:59 PM
#221
YandereTheEmo said: I don't think anime has to change, but the viewership definitely needs to adopt some sense of conscious awareness, rather than passively accepting things wholesale. I don't think anime should change nor should it have to, anime doesn't have to do anything for the viewers. Because Japan is making it toward their target audience of Japanese people. And yes, the viewer needs to have some sense of conscious awareness though. dustinator1991 said: It may be common to be targeted toward males. But then again, there are different types of anime. Such as yaoi and reverse harems, which is targets to the female audience. It doesn't change the fact that men are being objectified as well. Japan loves making what they love. And that is anime. Their culture is different than the rest of the world. And it seems like many people are putting their culture into Japan's culture. But they are two totally different worlds. You know what I mean? dustinator1991 said: I know the amount targeting females and males is huge. But doesn't change the fact that males are being objectified as well. It's the nature of the beast. Sure, lots of anime shows the female's skin. It has become a norm for anime now days. And I don't like shows that are yaoi. Not my thing. When Japan makes anime, it is targeted toward their audience. And they love what they love. They have fetishes. If other people from other countries like it, great. But if other people don't like it, oh well. Their opinion won't stop Japan from making more of the same kinds of anime. You know what I mean? dustinator1991 said: [spoiler] Japanese people operate differently than the rest of the world. So I hate when other people force their ideals/cultures into their life/society. You can't compare two things that are vastly different. I agree, I actually think I seen a petition for women being objectified in video games too. Feminists NEED to stop. I am so happythat the Japanese are their own people. They have their reasons for making the girls that way. Many of the Japanese love their 2-D girls. Many say 2-D are not girls, rather than data. And some of those Japanese guys would rather interact with the 2-D girls versus the 3-D girls or real girls. Yes, anime is another medium that is used to entertain and many people take it too seriously. Japan is designing what they love, not what you love. You know? [spoiler] |
Jan 26, 2015 7:57 PM
#222
See... this is what's wrong with anime. We've shifted the focus from explosions, tits, and lasers to sexism, homosexuality, gender struggles and boring social issues and stuff. Screw trying to portray gender realistically... just make the girls sweet and the men badasses. Screw all these real life struggles that people watch anime to escape from anyway. Anime should have 3 priorities 1. Being badass (action/sci-fi) 2. Being funny (slice of life/comedy) 3. Being emotional (romance/tragedy) 4. Being original and intesting (all anime) Other than that... who really cares how people are portrayed? I think objectifying both genders is a good thing. Make women super sexy for the male viewers. But also give them a cute innocent side. Make the male characters both tough and cool so guys can look up to them, but give them depth and emotions so girls would like them. There you go... that simple. |
Jan 26, 2015 7:58 PM
#223
What's wrong with objectifying women? |
Jan 26, 2015 7:59 PM
#224
Waifusexual said: What's wrong with objectifying women? Yea, exactly. It just makes them more idealized for males to admire. Anime does the same thing with male characters... so as long as both genders are romanticized and idealized... it's totally fair to objectify both genders. |
Jan 26, 2015 8:03 PM
#225
Lol if anime changes the way you view women you are a moron plain and simple. Anime characters AREN'T REAL. |
Jan 26, 2015 8:09 PM
#226
PoeticJustice said: Lol if anime changes the way you view women you are a moron plain and simple. Anime characters AREN'T REAL. He can like his 2-D anime women, maybe he can't get 3-D women. haha. |
Jan 26, 2015 8:19 PM
#227
ichii_1 said: It's a good thing, all these girls today are fat and ugly with the rest skinny as hell, anime girls are role models. Spoken like a true man |
Jan 26, 2015 8:32 PM
#228
ichii_1 said: It's a good thing, all these girls today are fat and ugly with the rest skinny as hell, anime girls are role models. Anime girls are very unrealistic. Try getting those boobs with no extra fat. You can't. Most people with big natural boobs are also FAT. |
Jan 26, 2015 8:38 PM
#229
Not in the least. Lack of knowledge is the only thing that can objectify anyone. Saying anime objectifies women is the same as saying guns kill people. Someone has to be behind the trigger. |
Jan 26, 2015 8:39 PM
#230
AnimeSweden said: ichii_1 said: It's a good thing, all these girls today are fat and ugly with the rest skinny as hell, anime girls are role models. Anime girls are very unrealistic. Try getting those boobs with no extra fat. You can't. Most people with big natural boobs are also FAT. Yes they are very unrealistic. That is why many people love them! haha. You can, with working out and exercising but some people who do, aren't gifted with the gene pool of big tits. |
Jan 26, 2015 8:39 PM
#231
Shrabster said: Not in the least. Lack of knowledge is the only thing that can objectify anyone. +1 |
Jan 26, 2015 8:40 PM
#232
AnimeSweden said: ichii_1 said: It's a good thing, all these girls today are fat and ugly with the rest skinny as hell, anime girls are role models. Anime girls are very unrealistic. Try getting those boobs with no extra fat. You can't. Most people with big natural boobs are also FAT. but that's the beauty of it. No real woman could ever look that hot. So the standard is unachievable. Forcing women to infinitely improve their looks, making them try as hard as they can to look hotter and hotter with no end. It makes young girls vow to be as hot and beautiful as possible to attain an unreachable standard of beauty. |
Jan 26, 2015 8:44 PM
#233
silversongwriter said: AnimeSweden said: ichii_1 said: It's a good thing, all these girls today are fat and ugly with the rest skinny as hell, anime girls are role models. Anime girls are very unrealistic. Try getting those boobs with no extra fat. You can't. Most people with big natural boobs are also FAT. but that's the beauty of it. No real woman could ever look that hot. So the standard is unachievable. Forcing women to infinitely improve their looks, making them try as hard as they can to look hotter and hotter with no end. It makes young girls vow to be as hot and beautiful as possible to attain an unreachable standard of beauty. But in turn it's discounting their other qualities--making them affirm to certain standards of 'beauty' rather than focusing on improving as people, or just doing as they please. |
It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
Jan 26, 2015 8:46 PM
#234
YandereTheEmo said: silversongwriter said: AnimeSweden said: ichii_1 said: It's a good thing, all these girls today are fat and ugly with the rest skinny as hell, anime girls are role models. Anime girls are very unrealistic. Try getting those boobs with no extra fat. You can't. Most people with big natural boobs are also FAT. but that's the beauty of it. No real woman could ever look that hot. So the standard is unachievable. Forcing women to infinitely improve their looks, making them try as hard as they can to look hotter and hotter with no end. It makes young girls vow to be as hot and beautiful as possible to attain an unreachable standard of beauty. But in turn it's discounting their other qualities--making them affirm to certain standards of 'beauty' rather than focusing on improving as people, or just doing as they please. yea... But still. I think a little societal pressure motivates girls to look good. |
Jan 26, 2015 8:46 PM
#235
silversongwriter said: YandereTheEmo said: silversongwriter said: AnimeSweden said: ichii_1 said: It's a good thing, all these girls today are fat and ugly with the rest skinny as hell, anime girls are role models. Anime girls are very unrealistic. Try getting those boobs with no extra fat. You can't. Most people with big natural boobs are also FAT. but that's the beauty of it. No real woman could ever look that hot. So the standard is unachievable. Forcing women to infinitely improve their looks, making them try as hard as they can to look hotter and hotter with no end. It makes young girls vow to be as hot and beautiful as possible to attain an unreachable standard of beauty. But in turn it's discounting their other qualities--making them affirm to certain standards of 'beauty' rather than focusing on improving as people, or just doing as they please. yea... But still. I think a little societal pressure motivates girls to look good. But that shouldn't be a quality for only one gender to aspire to above all else. |
It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
Jan 26, 2015 8:47 PM
#236
AnimeSweden said: ichii_1 said: It's a good thing, all these girls today are fat and ugly with the rest skinny as hell, anime girls are role models. Anime girls are very unrealistic. Try getting those boobs with no extra fat. You can't. Most people with big natural boobs are also FAT. You know what I mean, don't be that guy :( OMFG now I understand why there are so many gay people now :O Because this is the future of women :O |
Jan 26, 2015 8:48 PM
#237
Shrabster said: Like that two year old who killed his own mother by shooting her to death in an accident just recently? Yeah. That kid must have wanted to kill her so badly. Evil as fuck. Hitler 2.0 probably. Not in the least. Lack of knowledge is the only thing that can objectify anyone. Saying anime objectifies women is the same as saying guns kill people. Someone has to be behind the trigger. silversongwriter said: but that's the beauty of it. No real woman could ever look that hot. So the standard is unachievable. Forcing women to infinitely improve their looks, making them try as hard as they can to look hotter and hotter with no end. It makes young girls vow to be as hot and beautiful as possible to attain an unreachable standard of beauty HOW IS THIS A GOOD THING? |
Jan 26, 2015 8:52 PM
#238
YandereTheEmo said: But that shouldn't be a quality for only one gender to aspire to above all else. But it's hot though... AnimeSweden said: Shrabster said: Like that two year old who killed his own mother by shooting her to death in an accident just recently? Yeah. That kid must have wanted to kill her so badly. Evil as fuck. Hitler 2.0 probably. Not in the least. Lack of knowledge is the only thing that can objectify anyone. Saying anime objectifies women is the same as saying guns kill people. Someone has to be behind the trigger. silversongwriter said: but that's the beauty of it. No real woman could ever look that hot. So the standard is unachievable. Forcing women to infinitely improve their looks, making them try as hard as they can to look hotter and hotter with no end. It makes young girls vow to be as hot and beautiful as possible to attain an unreachable standard of beauty HOW IS THIS A GOOD THING? but it's hot though... |
Jan 26, 2015 8:52 PM
#239
AnimeSweden said: Shrabster said: Like that two year old who killed his own mother by shooting her to death in an accident just recently? Yeah. That kid must have wanted to kill her so badly. Evil as fuck. Hitler 2.0 probably. Not in the least. Lack of knowledge is the only thing that can objectify anyone. Saying anime objectifies women is the same as saying guns kill people. Someone has to be behind the trigger. silversongwriter said: but that's the beauty of it. No real woman could ever look that hot. So the standard is unachievable. Forcing women to infinitely improve their looks, making them try as hard as they can to look hotter and hotter with no end. It makes young girls vow to be as hot and beautiful as possible to attain an unreachable standard of beauty HOW IS THIS A GOOD THING? I think you are taking them too seriously. I'm pretty sure he is just joking. Also OT I don't really care about objectifying women in anime. I mean, are you seriously going to have your opinion changed by anime? Fucking anime? Lol we can't censor everything. Anime is my escapism and the last time I checked I held the same opinions regardless of what anime I watched. |
Jan 26, 2015 8:58 PM
#240
silversongwriter said: but it's hot though... Oh come on.. Don't you see how forcing beauty standards on women can affect them negatively? By creating standards we also create something of lesser value. Anyone who doesn't reach the set standard will be associated as people of lesser value, or in this case beauty. This leads to depression which would lead to an increased risk of suicide and that would if things go way too far, result in people dying because someone thought it was a good idea to set a standard for beauty. Good luck bruh. That blood is on your hands. |
Jan 26, 2015 8:58 PM
#241
paraboxes said: AnimeSweden said: Shrabster said: Not in the least. Lack of knowledge is the only thing that can objectify anyone. Saying anime objectifies women is the same as saying guns kill people. Someone has to be behind the trigger. silversongwriter said: but that's the beauty of it. No real woman could ever look that hot. So the standard is unachievable. Forcing women to infinitely improve their looks, making them try as hard as they can to look hotter and hotter with no end. It makes young girls vow to be as hot and beautiful as possible to attain an unreachable standard of beauty HOW IS THIS A GOOD THING? I think you are taking them too seriously. I'm pretty sure he is just joking. Also OT I don't really care about objectifying women in anime. I mean, are you seriously going to have your opinion changed by anime? Fucking anime? Lol we can't censor everything. Anime is my escapism and the last time I checked I held the same opinions regardless of what anime I watched. You'd be surprised what compounded subconscious disawareness can do to the shaping of your own opinions. |
It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
Jan 26, 2015 8:58 PM
#242
paraboxes said: AnimeSweden said: Shrabster said: Not in the least. Lack of knowledge is the only thing that can objectify anyone. Saying anime objectifies women is the same as saying guns kill people. Someone has to be behind the trigger. silversongwriter said: but that's the beauty of it. No real woman could ever look that hot. So the standard is unachievable. Forcing women to infinitely improve their looks, making them try as hard as they can to look hotter and hotter with no end. It makes young girls vow to be as hot and beautiful as possible to attain an unreachable standard of beauty HOW IS THIS A GOOD THING? I think you are taking them too seriously. I'm pretty sure he is just joking. Also OT I don't really care about objectifying women in anime. I mean, are you seriously going to have your opinion changed by anime? Fucking anime? Lol we can't censor everything. Anime is my escapism and the last time I checked I held the same opinions regardless of what anime I watched. Im half kidding.. yes, I think women should be pressured to look good. Hell, if women think men need to be pressured to look better, then they're probably right. Do I think women need to be obsessed with an unachievable standard of beauty to where they can never have satisfaction? Nah... I'm not so selfish that I want women to look good at the cost of their self-esteem. (Or am I?) I do think women should be pressured to look as good as they can with who they are. And sure... men should too if that's what women want. Whether men should be pressured to spend more time on their looks is on you ladies... some women don't want a man who's always in the mirror using more feminine hair products than she is... but some women like that. whatever.. |
Jan 26, 2015 9:00 PM
#243
paraboxes said: I think you are taking them too seriously. I'm pretty sure he is just joking. Who do you mean? I'm pretty sure both are serious. If I'm wrong then that's only good so yeah I hope I'm wrong. |
Jan 26, 2015 9:06 PM
#244
[quote=silversongwriter] paraboxes said: AnimeSweden said: Shrabster said: Not in the least. Lack of knowledge is the only thing that can objectify anyone. Saying anime objectifies women is the same as saying guns kill people. Someone has to be behind the trigger. silversongwriter said: but that's the beauty of it. No real woman could ever look that hot. So the standard is unachievable. Forcing women to infinitely improve their looks, making them try as hard as they can to look hotter and hotter with no end. It makes young girls vow to be as hot and beautiful as possible to attain an unreachable standard of beauty HOW IS THIS A GOOD THING? I think you are taking them too seriously. I'm pretty sure he is just joking. Also OT I don't really care about objectifying women in anime. I mean, are you seriously going to have your opinion changed by anime? Fucking anime? Lol we can't censor everything. Anime is my escapism and the last time I checked I held the same opinions regardless of what anime I watched. Im half kidding.. yes, I think women should be pressured to look good. Hell, if women think men need to be pressured to look better, then they're probably right. Do I think women need to be obsessed with an unachievable standard of beauty to where they can never have satisfaction? Nah... I'm not so selfish that I want women to look good at the cost of their self-esteem. (Or am I?) I do think women should be pressured to look as good as they can with who they are. And sure... men should too if that's what women want. Whether men should be pressured to spend more time on their looks is on you ladies... some women don't want a man who's always in the mirror using more feminine hair products than she is... but some women like that. whatever..[/quote] I mean, I have my own opinions about this that I don't want to get into but I guess I'll agree somewhat with you. I know it's the whole fat man and sexy women = nerd's dream while fat woman and sexy dude = you go girl. But anime is not changing any time soon. |
Jan 26, 2015 9:13 PM
#245
AnimeSweden said: paraboxes said: I think you are taking them too seriously. I'm pretty sure he is just joking. Who do you mean? I'm pretty sure both are serious. If I'm wrong then that's only good so yeah I hope I'm wrong. As much as I love perfect women I can't imagine someone holding up all women to this standard. Plus the way he said(typed) it sounded a bit over the top. |
Jan 26, 2015 9:16 PM
#246
paraboxes said: AnimeSweden said: paraboxes said: I think you are taking them too seriously. I'm pretty sure he is just joking. Who do you mean? I'm pretty sure both are serious. If I'm wrong then that's only good so yeah I hope I'm wrong. As much as I love perfect women I can't imagine someone holding up all women to this standard. Plus the way he said(typed) it sounded a bit over the top. You obviously haven't seen SSW's other threads. |
It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
Jan 26, 2015 9:19 PM
#247
YandereTheEmo said: paraboxes said: AnimeSweden said: paraboxes said: I think you are taking them too seriously. I'm pretty sure he is just joking. Who do you mean? I'm pretty sure both are serious. If I'm wrong then that's only good so yeah I hope I'm wrong. As much as I love perfect women I can't imagine someone holding up all women to this standard. Plus the way he said(typed) it sounded a bit over the top. You obviously haven't seen SSW's other threads. You know... half the shit I say is hyperbole, that's becase I have a sense of humor. I do stand by my opinions, but I make fun of them as well. I present honest opinions in a over-blown and silly manor |
Jan 26, 2015 9:20 PM
#248
YandereTheEmo said: No I haven't. But I have seen him post and that mlp thread. I don't take him seriously.paraboxes said: AnimeSweden said: paraboxes said: I think you are taking them too seriously. I'm pretty sure he is just joking. Who do you mean? I'm pretty sure both are serious. If I'm wrong then that's only good so yeah I hope I'm wrong. As much as I love perfect women I can't imagine someone holding up all women to this standard. Plus the way he said(typed) it sounded a bit over the top. You obviously haven't seen SSW's other threads. |
Jan 26, 2015 9:32 PM
#249
paraboxes said: YandereTheEmo said: No I haven't. But I have seen him post and that mlp thread. I don't take him seriously.paraboxes said: AnimeSweden said: paraboxes said: I think you are taking them too seriously. I'm pretty sure he is just joking. Who do you mean? I'm pretty sure both are serious. If I'm wrong then that's only good so yeah I hope I'm wrong. As much as I love perfect women I can't imagine someone holding up all women to this standard. Plus the way he said(typed) it sounded a bit over the top. You obviously haven't seen SSW's other threads. I make it obvious what's silly hyperbole and what's my serious opinion... people on MAL just can't take my sense of humor |
Jan 26, 2015 9:41 PM
#250
silversongwriter said: paraboxes said: YandereTheEmo said: paraboxes said: AnimeSweden said: paraboxes said: I think you are taking them too seriously. I'm pretty sure he is just joking. Who do you mean? I'm pretty sure both are serious. If I'm wrong then that's only good so yeah I hope I'm wrong. As much as I love perfect women I can't imagine someone holding up all women to this standard. Plus the way he said(typed) it sounded a bit over the top. You obviously haven't seen SSW's other threads. I make it obvious what's silly hyperbole and what's my serious opinion... people on MAL just can't take my sense of humor Do you? It's kind of hard to differentiate between your 'honest' opinions and hyperbole when you 'honestly' encourage/endorse some of the things you've talked about across the forums. |
It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
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