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Jun 19, 2009 1:03 AM
#101
| FMA1 was indeed shit for straying from Hiromu Arakawas epic story but before that it played on the series best trait character development FMAB Hughes death wasnt even sad because we barely got to know him everything is being rushed for the sake of getting to new material but the characters are being thrown into the story so abruptly and developing so awkwardly you must ask yourself is it really worth it Before i get another bias come back i am not saying this is anything horrible but i will indeed say its not going as smoothly as FMA1 FMA1: 8/10 FMAB: 6-7/10 |
Jun 19, 2009 1:38 AM
#102
Jmaster363 said: FMAB Hughes death wasnt even sad because we barely got to know him We got MORE of him than in manga. And death was just about right - crude, instant, cold. Jmaster363 said: everything is being rushed for the sake of getting to new material Episode 1 - Anime original material Episode 2 - Half of chapter 20, 1/3 of 23 and 3/4 of 25. Episode 3 - Chapter 1, Chapter 2. <Chapter 4 skipped since Episode 1 was almost identical to it, minus the locations and the size of event> <Chapter 3 is skipped for now and will most likely be used in certain flashback> Episode 4 - Chapter 5 Episode 5 - Chapter 6 and Chapter 7 (mostly combat chapters). Episode 6 - Chapter 8, Chapter 9. Episode 7 - Chapter 10, Chapter 11. Episode 8 - chapter 12, 1/2 of CHapter 13 Episode 9 - 1/2 of Chapter 13, Chapter 14, 1/2 of Chapter 15 Episode 10 - 1/2 of Chapter 15, Chapter 16 Episode 11 - Chapter 17(massively cut down, since its mostly a long ridiculous chase), Chapter 18, 2/3 of Chapter 19. By that logic: Episode 12 - 1/3 of Chapter 19, 1/2 of Chapter 20, 2/3 of 23, Chapter 24, 1/2 of 25. So yes, Ep 2 is the most rushed, and Ep12 will be too, however I see them dealing with it better in Ep12, since there's a lot of unneeded or already covered material they can skip. Jmaster363 said: but the characters are being thrown into the story so abruptly and developing so awkwardly you must ask yourself is it really worth it Oh but that's EXACTLY how they were introduced in manga? FMA:B did not change anything in introduction of characters or how they are handled. |
Jun 19, 2009 1:41 AM
#103
| Okay, must say it, I'm on Fai's side when I think that FMA:B is better than FMA1, but I'm not such an extremist like him to say anything in FMA1 was bad. I like to think FMA1 as a different continuity, but I like to consider the first series as a deconstruction of the manga. The character are different from their orginal version (from their personality to their design): anime!Winry made a greatly overdramactic reaction when she discovered about Ed's cheating on the Automail contest, in the other Ed just got a wrench in the head (played for laughs). Anime!Al was way more emotive than Manga!Al: it was a bit more realistic, though I greatly prefer the second over the first as IMO made a more rounded chacter. I think that the nadir of showing how much the first serie was dark was that, while in the anime Tucker (a true monster) survived, in his place the one to survive is another character far more sympathetic and idealistic than Tucker (I'd rather avoid to tell who is for avoiding to spoil the plot. About the art,well, your mileage may vary: in FMA1, there was lots of shading and dark tones, while FMA is way lighter. Compare Envy's colors: his hair in FMA1 there were alot darker, but in FMAB they were of a vivid green color. Also, his skin is less pale in FMA2. On the other side, I liked some fillers, and I think the funeral scene was more nicely handled in the anime (through I read others' reasons of why they prefer this, and are pretty valid reasons!) And, to be fair, I too disliked Dante and found her plan over the top for her motivation (not to say her alchemy was powered by plot holes) and I thought sometime the first serie dragged the story too much slowly (seriously, I thought the flashback of the origin weren't going to end), but it was still fine to watch. Also, Scar never seemed to die at the end! And how you dare to say rabbit Tucker is bad, Fai? It is among the best gag of the serie, along with Ed's shortness and the filler episode of the Flame Alchemist. |
Jun 19, 2009 1:57 AM
#104
Fai said: Seeing that you have "FMA"1 in favourite anime list, ill jsut repeat what I said before: Take off the rose-coloured glasses you look at "FMA"1 with. This is coming from someone who gave FMA Brotherhood a 10 score after seeing 11 eps of it. You realize how ridiculous it looks when someone gives a perfect score after seeing about one fifth of the series don't you? It's not too late to edit your rating of it and look less of an idiot after stating that remark. Fai said: Only arguments, while other's were just going on "on just how great FMA1 was". Nostalgia is a powerful thing to cloud the minds, eh? You said a few minutes from the Gate scene from FMA Brotherhood was better than practically anything the FMA Movie had to offer in the comparison thread. Explain to me how that viewpoint is not bias? You're in no position to talk about minds being clouded really. Unlike you I'm not bias, because while you are closed off to liking FMA at all, I'm opened to actually liking FMA Brotherhood. AtomicNerd said: I've seen some arguments where a person says something stupid like, "Well he only likes FMA1 better than Brotherhoood because he hasn't read the manga..." Yeah, cause if someone doesn't read the manga, it negates their own opinion of FMA > FMA Brotherhood right? Fai said: Yes. Yes it Does. Yeah, I'm sure you would like nothing better than opinions that differ from your own to all be negated. Cause y'know, that's how all reasonable people think, amirite? Fai said: You are always free to go back to "friendly territory" and never come back ;] I could say the same to you. Only replace the words "friendly territory" with your mothers womb. On a side note, Hiromu Arakawa did allow the anime staff to work independently from her and asked for a different ending for FMA1. So I don't see the point of disliking it just because it's non canon. |
AtomicNerdJun 19, 2009 2:25 AM
Jun 19, 2009 2:25 AM
#105
AtomicNerd said: This is coming from someone who gave FMA Brotherhood a 10 score after seeing 11 eps of it. You realize how ridiculous it looks when someone gives a perfect score after seeing about one fifth of the series don't you? It's not too late to edit your rating of it and look less of an idiot after stating that remark. You do realize that people can change the rating as the series progress? Change the score as the series go, you know. After all if they adapt the manga material it WILL have a solid ten from me. Or should I be a pure elitist like you and rate series only after finishing it AtomicNerd said: You said a few minutes from the Gate scene from FMA Brotherhood was better than practically anything the FMA Movie had to offer in the comparison thread. Explain to me how that viewpoint is not bias? You're in no position to talk about minds being clouded really. Because easily, the Gate scene is one of the BEST crafted events in the history of anime. The portayal, the idea behind both the Truth and The Gate beats the pathetic "other world" try in fma1. AtomicNerd said: Unlike you I'm not bias, because while you are closed off to liking FMA at all, I'm opened to actually liking FMA Brotherhood. Of course you are not bias. :) And your opinion is right. And others are wrong :) AtomicNerd said: Yeah, I'm sure you would like nothing better than opinions that differ from your own to all be negated. Cause y'know, that's how all reasonable people think, amirite? I am talking from my own experience. Before reading FMA manga I would have given a rating of 7 to FMA1 and rating of 4 to Shamballa. After reading manga I gave FMA1 6 and Shamballa 4. ;] Its amazing how something can change the outlook you have on anime series. Bokurano and Claymore comes to mind. Without reading manga, these two examples look like "good" series. However reading manga showcases all the problems with the adaptations. AtomicNerd said: I could say the same to you. Only replace the words "friendly territory" with your mothers womb. Oh wow, let's not start a flame war, what you say? There's no need to get nervous at people who have different opinion from you. |
Jun 19, 2009 2:54 AM
#106
Fai said: You do realize that people can change the rating as the series progress? Change the score as the series go, you know. After all if they adapt the manga material it WILL have a solid ten from me. Or should I be a pure elitist like you and rate series only after finishing it Yeah, I'm so sure that you will change the rating as it goes and it won't just stay at 10 until it finishes. Something tells me I shouldn't bet on it though. Fai said: Because easily, the Gate scene is one of the BEST crafted events in the history of anime. The portayal, the idea behind both the Truth and The Gate beats the pathetic "other world" try in fma1. I'm sure avid fans of anime would have better things to nominate as the best event in the history of anime then Edward Elric and the gate scene. Fai said: Of course you are not bias. :) And your opinion is right. And others are wrong :) I'm sure you fool yourself by saying that in the mirror over and over. Remember, I'm not the one who's stating my opinions as facts and ruling out other peoples opinions. AtomicNerd said: Yeah, I'm sure you would like nothing better than opinions that differ from your own to all be negated. Cause y'know, that's how all reasonable people think, amirite? Fai said: I am talking from my own experience. Before reading FMA manga I would have given a rating of 7 to FMA1 and rating of 4 to Shamballa. After reading manga I gave FMA1 6 and Shamballa 4. ;] Its amazing how something can change the outlook you have on anime series. Bokurano and Claymore comes to mind. Without reading manga, these two examples look like "good" series. However reading manga showcases all the problems with the adaptations. I see. So what you're to say is, you are easily swayed by canon material. This would explain why you always attack FMA1 for not being canon. Now as to attack the people who support it, I wonder where that stems from? Fai said: Oh wow, let's not start a flame war, what you say? There's no need to get nervous at people who have different opinion from you Says the flamer. You could at least pretend you weren't such a hypocrite, but I guess it's too late for that now. |
AtomicNerdJun 19, 2009 2:57 AM
Jun 19, 2009 3:12 AM
#107
AtomicNerd said: I'm sure avid fans of anime would have better things to nominate as the best event in the history of anime then Edward Elric and the gate scene. Seriously? The only things in last year or two that could rival that scene are KnK movies, but thats only normal since Kara No Kyoukai movies and any part of nasuverse is insta-win by itself. AtomicNerd said: Remember, I'm not the one who's stating my opinions as facts and ruling out other peoples opinions. Yes you are. The difference is that my opinions are mostly argumented and your use the usual troll methodic. AtomicNerd said: I see. So what you're to say is, you are easily swayed by canon material. This would explain why you always attack FMA1 for not being canon. Now as to attack the people who support it, I wonder where that stems from? Oh thats one way to twist the words. Canon or not canon is not important to me - the quality is. Obviously when superior version of some story is found, the rating for the previous one goes down. Nothing can forgive the mess that is the end of claymore anime. It does not matter on if you read the manga or not. However without reading the manga you could just pass it off as "hell they ran out of ideas, probably", however after reading the manga you see that it is not the case and it was really just a lackluster effort by anime-team. The same goes for Bokurano and its ending which contrasts with entire series WAY TOO MUCH. The same goes for FMA1 too And I "always attack FMA" because I honestly hate the way the story was done. It was cheap. Dante was cheap, Cat-Thief was cheap, Homonunculi background was cheap, Hughes discovery was way-too-cheap and everything was way too melodramatic and centered around the brothers way too much. I will not waste any arguments on you this time, since you will just state that its all from the fact that "I am being swayed by canon". Laughable. AtomicNerd said: Says the flamer. Oh but I did not attack anyone personally, did I? I am just stating the opinion, yours however was a direct attack at the person, that is, at me. |
AhenshihaelJun 19, 2009 3:23 AM
Jun 19, 2009 3:45 AM
#108
AtomicNerd said: Remember, I'm not the one who's stating my opinions as facts and ruling out other peoples opinions. Fai said: Yes you are. The difference is that my opinions are mostly argumented and your use the usual troll methodic. By all means quote me on it if you see me state my opinions as facts or negate your opinions outright. We both know you've left plenty out in the open to be quoted on. Fai said: Oh but I did not attack anyone personally, did I? I am just stating the opinion, yours however was a direct attack at the person, that is, at me. Oh really? I'm sure suggesting me to go back to "friendly territory" and never coming back, or calling me an elitist and insinuating I'm a bias like yourself shouldn't be viewed as any form of attack. No need to bait me out any further. I had enough of your extreme bias personality for several lifetimes. |
Jun 19, 2009 6:36 AM
#109
| Geez you guys...isn't this going a little too far? :(...Please don't fight~ *hugs Atomic Nerd* *hugs Fai* |
Jun 19, 2009 10:57 AM
#110
| Woah. Nothing like waking up to see a shitstorm went down while I was asleep. XD;;; What you have to realize Atomic, is that the reason why some of us (Fai especially) get so worked up over the FMA:B vs FMA1 comparisons, is that we feel like people are just dismissing FMA:B without giving it a chance because they keep comparing it to FMA1. And that frustrates us because we really think FMA:B is an amazing series so far. Fai goes a little far in his arguments sometimes, but I do agree with most of his opinions. I also read the manga after seeing the 1st series, and I have to say I don't think I would have enjoyed it nearly as much if I had read the manga first. I still do like FMA1, but I have to view as being almost an entirely different series. The tone is completely different, a lot of the characterization is different (as Fai pointed out), and the plot was obviously very different. AtomicNerd said: You said a few minutes from the Gate scene from FMA Brotherhood was better than practically anything the FMA Movie had to offer in the comparison thread. Explain to me how that viewpoint is not bias? Okay dude, let's be honest here. I think we can all agree that Shamballa was sub-par. XP I'm with Robby though, let's all just take a deep breath and calm down. |
Jun 19, 2009 11:31 AM
#111
magelet said: What you have to realize Atomic, is that the reason why some of us (Fai especially) get so worked up over the FMA:B vs FMA1 comparisons, is that we feel like people are just dismissing FMA:B without giving it a chance because they keep comparing it to FMA1. And that frustrates us because we really think FMA:B is an amazing series so far. Not to mention that we(I) just dont want to see people obnoxiously comparing 52 episode series they saw ~Y years ago to 11 episodes of newly airing anime, just for the sake of nostalgic nitpicking AND THEN getting pissed that someone compared their fma1 to manga in similar obnoxious manner. magelet said: AtomicNerd said: You said a few minutes from the Gate scene from FMA Brotherhood was better than practically anything the FMA Movie had to offer in the comparison thread. Explain to me how that viewpoint is not bias? Okay dude, let's be honest here. I think we can all agree that Shamballa was sub-par. XP Apparently there are some people who think that Shamballa was the second best thing after sliced bread. magelet said: I'm with Robby though, let's all just take a deep breath and calm down. I am calm. I just have this strange curse or whatever that the moment I stop stating opinion or something and the thread calms down, someone comes up to continue the pointless banter. |
AhenshihaelJun 19, 2009 11:44 AM
Jun 19, 2009 12:05 PM
#112
| As I said, to me are both beautiful! (Through FMA1 in the second half went a bit downhill) |
Jun 19, 2009 1:08 PM
#113
magelet said: Very well said magelet! In case you missed it AtomicNerd, here's something I similarly saidWhat you have to realize Atomic, is that the reason why some of us (Fai especially) get so worked up over the FMA:B vs FMA1 comparisons, is that we feel like people are just dismissing FMA:B without giving it a chance because they keep comparing it to FMA1. And that frustrates us because we really think FMA:B is an amazing series so far. Fai goes a little far in his arguments sometimes, but I do agree with most of his opinions. I also read the manga after seeing the 1st series, and I have to say I don't think I would have enjoyed it nearly as much if I had read the manga first. I still do like FMA1, but I have to view as being almost an entirely different series. The tone is completely different, a lot of the characterization is different (as Fai pointed out), and the plot was obviously very different. robbydesu said: I think people are just too hung up on FMA (2003) ><;;.. Clearly if people compared the previous anime to this one it is understandable to perceive FMA:B as more "rushed". But I think if some people (because I'm sure there are people out there who is already doing this) start considering FMA:B as an anime itself it wouldn't seem that "rushed". robbydesu said: Maybe people are quick to think that "remake" means it's supposed to be better than the previous anime. So with that sort of mindset, people are more inclined to view this series analytically and with such scrutiny that it becomes trivial at times. Some viewers don't just sit back and watch the series and enjoy what is being given to them - they are so caught up in the whole remake idea that they look at every single detail. Then sometimes it just progresses into this whole black and white thinking of it's either like or dislike - but of course it must have a reason behind it. I don't mind if people don't like this series, I just don't think it gives must justice to the anime to base that opinion on the comparison between FMA (2003) and FMA:B :(.. I guess it's a given that people compare the two series, I do that too. But I don't solely base my opinions on just that. I just hope more people learn to give some leaway to the anime because it's not like FMA:B was made to be better than the previous one, it's just a remake that's based on the manga, simple as that. |
Jun 19, 2009 1:13 PM
#114
| Hm, FMA1 has a special place in my heart b/c it was the first GOOD anime series I watched (just, Naruto, urgh). But I won't deny that it's UTTER CRAPOLA compared to how good the manga gets. XD Anyone looking forward to seeing (spoilerrifi) Ling, Ranfan, the Hohenheim look-alike (sorry, don't know if that info's outta date), MIRA, Riza going into berserk mode after hearing that Roy might be dead, Envyx AND Ed in Gluttony's stomach, and so much more awesome stuff? Shamballa was.. strange. I watched it before the series and it felt like they took on "too much" and failed to deliver the main message, making it cliched and confused. |
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Jun 19, 2009 1:18 PM
#115
Saffy said: Ling, Ranfan, the Hohenheim look-alike (sorry, don't know if that info's outta date), MIRA, Riza going into berserk mode after hearing that Roy might be dead, Envyx AND Ed in Gluttony's stomach, and so much more awesome stuff? Yes, yes yes yes and yes. not to mention certain uber-epic scenes of latest chapters :3 Saffy said: Shamballa was.. strange. I watched it before the series and it felt like they took on "too much" and failed to deliver the main message, making it cliched and confused. Hitler is a painter, Bradley's movie maker. |
Jun 19, 2009 1:34 PM
#116
| It's strange to me that people who say "Don't compare FMA to FMA:B or the manga" do the same thing, in often the same breath. I also find it weird that people on that side believe that everyone who feels like the show is rushed is immediately comparing it to the first series and not looking at the show by itself. We are totally capable as functioning humans to say "This was not done as well as it was done here," and be looking at them based on their merits as separate shows. Moreover I think it's ridiculous to say that because you liked one show means you won't like the other. These things aren't mutually exclusive. People can like parts of one show and a like parts of another. The problem is when people get into extremes and start talking about the majority as though it is some infallible God. |
Jun 19, 2009 2:23 PM
#117
noteDhero said: *bows to the master*The problem is when people get into extremes and start talking about the majority as though it is some infallible God. |
Jun 19, 2009 7:23 PM
#118
| This fight for the best FMA is becoming ridiculous.. Since the beggining of the series we never had any episode discussion topic without flames... If you don't like FMA:B stop watching and posting. It's so simple! ^^" |
Jun 19, 2009 8:03 PM
#119
Volkie said: As much as I want to agree with you on this...we can't really stop people from watching an anime even if they don't like it. As weird as it may sound, there are actually people out there who chooses to watch an anime that they don't like, yea weird I know, I don't really understand that myself...but people like that exist ><..If you don't like FMA:B stop watching and posting. It's so simple! ^^" Plus, when it all comes down to it...these are discussion threads for people to express their feelings; people are entitled to have their own opinions. This includes the negative and positive. I think the most important thing to understand is to have people respect others' opinions rather than start attacking at each other... |
Jun 19, 2009 8:33 PM
#120
| Best remake so far, they did Rush Valley soooo much better this time around. Paninya was great, and the old man as well. Al's reactions to the baby in and out of the womb were magical, as many times as I've seen it, seeing the big scary armor, with those facial expressions gets me everytime. The watch moments were so much more genuine, and they really captured Winry better in this version to, can't wait for new content!!! Urahara Out!! Sent with Mal Updater |
Jun 19, 2009 11:04 PM
#121
Jun 20, 2009 7:16 AM
#122
Jun 20, 2009 8:38 AM
#123
| FMA (Both the anime's and the manga) are generic shonen trash lacking a decent storyline and the only thing that makes FMA1 so much better than FMA:B is the characters, apparently Fai claims it to be 'emo' which is somewhat true except it's the only thing FMA had going for it and kept me interested enough to finish it and when I started watching FMA:B I was completely disappointed that they discarded the only positive thing they had going for them leaving us with a sub-par remake with the same idiotic humor that maybe succeeds in drawing a smirk after facepalming at the previous 20 failed jokes. Fai honestly you are the biggest clown I have observed in all these FMA related threads you conveniently hate on everything that's non-canon and are convinced that everything Yasuhiro Irie has spewed out is the most perfect creation in existence, you probably laugh hysterically at every terrible joke from FMA:B, who knows you probably think all the 'short jokes' from FMA:B are perfection as well but the EXACT same ones used in FMA1 are unwitty and emo. Enjoy your 50 episodes of short jokes and Armstrong sparkling while flexing his muscles all over your monitor. |
Jun 20, 2009 8:53 AM
#124
BOXXYTHEQUEEN said: It's great to have your opinion about the series - that's fine with me and I'm sure it's fine with everyone else; but find it absolutely and completely absurd, unnecessary, rude and disrespectful to attack at a person just because an individual disagrees with their opinion.FMA (Both the anime's and the manga) are generic shonen trash lacking a decent storyline and the only thing that makes FMA1 so much better than FMA:B is the characters, apparently Fai claims it to be 'emo' which is somewhat true except it's the only thing FMA had going for it and kept me interested enough to finish it and when I started watching FMA:B I was completely disappointed that they discarded the only positive thing they had going for them leaving us with a sub-par remake with the same idiotic humor that maybe succeeds in drawing a smirk after facepalming at the previous 20 failed jokes. Fai honestly you are the biggest clown I have observed in all these FMA related threads you conveniently hate on everything that's non-canon and are convinced that everything Yasuhiro Irie has spewed out is the most perfect creation in existence, you probably laugh hysterically at every terrible joke from FMA:B, who knows you probably think all the 'short jokes' from FMA:B are perfection as well but the EXACT same ones used in FMA1 are unwitty and emo. Enjoy your 50 episodes of short jokes and Armstrong sparkling while flexing his muscles all over your monitor. And news flash! People are entitled to have their own opinion no matter what it is or however extreme it may seem to be for others. This also applies to how people are entitled to have their own taste and preferences in anime. Just because an individual doesn't like something or he/she doesn't think something is funny, doesn't mean that it'll be the same with others. |
robbydesuJun 20, 2009 8:57 AM
Jun 20, 2009 9:29 AM
#125
BOXXYTHEQUEEN said: FMA (Both the anime's and the manga) are generic shonen trash lacking a decent storyline and the only thing that makes FMA1 so much better than FMA:B is the characters, apparently Fai claims it to be 'emo' which is somewhat true except it's the only thing FMA had going for it and kept me interested enough to finish it and when I started watching FMA:B I was completely disappointed that they discarded the only positive thing they had going for them leaving us with a sub-par remake with the same idiotic humor that maybe succeeds in drawing a smirk after facepalming at the previous 20 failed jokes. Fai honestly you are the biggest clown I have observed in all these FMA related threads you conveniently hate on everything that's non-canon and are convinced that everything Yasuhiro Irie has spewed out is the most perfect creation in existence, you probably laugh hysterically at every terrible joke from FMA:B, who knows you probably think all the 'short jokes' from FMA:B are perfection as well but the EXACT same ones used in FMA1 are unwitty and emo. Enjoy your 50 episodes of short jokes and Armstrong sparkling while flexing his muscles all over your monitor. If FMA is "generic trash", then why did you rate the first series an 8? If you're just going to troll, please go back to /a/. |
Jun 20, 2009 10:22 AM
#126
robbydesu said: BOXXYTHEQUEEN said: It's great to have your opinion about the series - that's fine with me and I'm sure it's fine with everyone else; but find it absolutely and completely absurd, unnecessary, rude and disrespectful to attack at a person just because an individual disagrees with their opinion.And news flash! People are entitled to have their own opinion no matter what it is or however extreme it may seem to be for others. This also applies to how people are entitled to have their own taste and preferences in anime. Just because an individual doesn't like something or he/she doesn't think something is funny, doesn't mean that it'll be the same with others. DON'T feed the trolls. |
Jun 20, 2009 10:25 AM
#127
Fai said: I can't tell if they are trolls are not :(...gomen...*sits in a fetal position in the corner of the room*robbydesu said: BOXXYTHEQUEEN said: It's great to have your opinion about the series - that's fine with me and I'm sure it's fine with everyone else; but find it absolutely and completely absurd, unnecessary, rude and disrespectful to attack at a person just because an individual disagrees with their opinion.And news flash! People are entitled to have their own opinion no matter what it is or however extreme it may seem to be for others. This also applies to how people are entitled to have their own taste and preferences in anime. Just because an individual doesn't like something or he/she doesn't think something is funny, doesn't mean that it'll be the same with others. DON'T feed the trolls. |
Jun 20, 2009 10:58 AM
#128
robbydesu said: BOXXYTHEQUEEN said: It's great to have your opinion about the series - that's fine with me and I'm sure it's fine with everyone else; but find it absolutely and completely absurd, unnecessary, rude and disrespectful to attack at a person just because an individual disagrees with their opinion.FMA (Both the anime's and the manga) are generic shonen trash lacking a decent storyline and the only thing that makes FMA1 so much better than FMA:B is the characters, apparently Fai claims it to be 'emo' which is somewhat true except it's the only thing FMA had going for it and kept me interested enough to finish it and when I started watching FMA:B I was completely disappointed that they discarded the only positive thing they had going for them leaving us with a sub-par remake with the same idiotic humor that maybe succeeds in drawing a smirk after facepalming at the previous 20 failed jokes. Fai honestly you are the biggest clown I have observed in all these FMA related threads you conveniently hate on everything that's non-canon and are convinced that everything Yasuhiro Irie has spewed out is the most perfect creation in existence, you probably laugh hysterically at every terrible joke from FMA:B, who knows you probably think all the 'short jokes' from FMA:B are perfection as well but the EXACT same ones used in FMA1 are unwitty and emo. Enjoy your 50 episodes of short jokes and Armstrong sparkling while flexing his muscles all over your monitor. And news flash! People are entitled to have their own opinion no matter what it is or however extreme it may seem to be for others. This also applies to how people are entitled to have their own taste and preferences in anime. Just because an individual doesn't like something or he/she doesn't think something is funny, doesn't mean that it'll be the same with others. It's quite hypocritical how you tell him how people are generally entitiled to their own opinions after telling him his opinion was rude. The manner in which he gave his statement being an opinion regarding anothers opinion was fair enough in this case due to a high level of ignorance from the person he is referring to, you being unaware of this and making him out to be a rude person could be considered rude from you. Your knowledge of opinionated dynamics is insufficient, you are doing exactly what this person is doing, giving an opinion about an opinion (in which i am doing too) but you act as though he's the bad guy where as he's doing so in the same manner as you towards the person he's talking about, he's just not unaware like you though. This further adds to your hypocrisy making you quite ignorant. |
azndragongohanJun 20, 2009 11:41 AM
Jun 20, 2009 11:05 AM
#129
azndragongohan said: I'm referring to his/her opinion about the animes. We are in an anime discussion thread. Obviously I'm very open to that. Calling Fai a clown and his/her assumptions and statements about Fai's tastes in humour was unnecessary. What are we, in 1st grade? I think we can all still understand that he/she doesn't like the humour if he/she stuck with just discussing about the humour themselves and animes alone. This ain't about opinions overall.robbydesu said: BOXXYTHEQUEEN said: It's great to have your opinion about the series - that's fine with me and I'm sure it's fine with everyone else; but find it absolutely and completely absurd, unnecessary, rude and disrespectful to attack at a person just because an individual disagrees with their opinion.FMA (Both the anime's and the manga) are generic shonen trash lacking a decent storyline and the only thing that makes FMA1 so much better than FMA:B is the characters, apparently Fai claims it to be 'emo' which is somewhat true except it's the only thing FMA had going for it and kept me interested enough to finish it and when I started watching FMA:B I was completely disappointed that they discarded the only positive thing they had going for them leaving us with a sub-par remake with the same idiotic humor that maybe succeeds in drawing a smirk after facepalming at the previous 20 failed jokes. Fai honestly you are the biggest clown I have observed in all these FMA related threads you conveniently hate on everything that's non-canon and are convinced that everything Yasuhiro Irie has spewed out is the most perfect creation in existence, you probably laugh hysterically at every terrible joke from FMA:B, who knows you probably think all the 'short jokes' from FMA:B are perfection as well but the EXACT same ones used in FMA1 are unwitty and emo. Enjoy your 50 episodes of short jokes and Armstrong sparkling while flexing his muscles all over your monitor. And news flash! People are entitled to have their own opinion no matter what it is or however extreme it may seem to be for others. This also applies to how people are entitled to have their own taste and preferences in anime. Just because an individual doesn't like something or he/she doesn't think something is funny, doesn't mean that it'll be the same with others. It's quite hypocritical how you tell him how people are generally entitiled to their own opinions after telling him his opinion was rude. The manner in which he gave his statement being an opinion regarding anothers opinion was fair enough in this case due to a high level of ignorance from the person he is refering to, you being unaware of this and making him out to be a rude person could be considered rude from you. Your knowledge of opinionated dynamics is insufficient, you are doing exactly what this person is doing, giving an opinion about an opinion (in which i am doing too) but you act as though he's the bad guy where as he's doing so in the same manner as you towards the person he's talking about, he's just not unaware like you though. This further adds to your hypocrisy making you quite ignorant. Fai, another troll am I right? I think I'm getting the hang of this :P |
robbydesuJun 20, 2009 11:08 AM
Jun 20, 2009 11:26 AM
#130
robbydesu said: azndragongohan said: I'm referring to his/her opinion about the animes. We are in an anime discussion thread. Obviously I'm very open to that. Calling Fai a clown and his/her assumptions and statements about Fai's tastes in humour was unnecessary. What are we, in 1st grade? I think we can all still understand that he/she doesn't like the humour if he/she stuck with just discussing about the humour themselves and animes alone. This ain't about opinions overall.robbydesu said: BOXXYTHEQUEEN said: It's great to have your opinion about the series - that's fine with me and I'm sure it's fine with everyone else; but find it absolutely and completely absurd, unnecessary, rude and disrespectful to attack at a person just because an individual disagrees with their opinion.FMA (Both the anime's and the manga) are generic shonen trash lacking a decent storyline and the only thing that makes FMA1 so much better than FMA:B is the characters, apparently Fai claims it to be 'emo' which is somewhat true except it's the only thing FMA had going for it and kept me interested enough to finish it and when I started watching FMA:B I was completely disappointed that they discarded the only positive thing they had going for them leaving us with a sub-par remake with the same idiotic humor that maybe succeeds in drawing a smirk after facepalming at the previous 20 failed jokes. Fai honestly you are the biggest clown I have observed in all these FMA related threads you conveniently hate on everything that's non-canon and are convinced that everything Yasuhiro Irie has spewed out is the most perfect creation in existence, you probably laugh hysterically at every terrible joke from FMA:B, who knows you probably think all the 'short jokes' from FMA:B are perfection as well but the EXACT same ones used in FMA1 are unwitty and emo. Enjoy your 50 episodes of short jokes and Armstrong sparkling while flexing his muscles all over your monitor. And news flash! People are entitled to have their own opinion no matter what it is or however extreme it may seem to be for others. This also applies to how people are entitled to have their own taste and preferences in anime. Just because an individual doesn't like something or he/she doesn't think something is funny, doesn't mean that it'll be the same with others. It's quite hypocritical how you tell him how people are generally entitiled to their own opinions after telling him his opinion was rude. The manner in which he gave his statement being an opinion regarding anothers opinion was fair enough in this case due to a high level of ignorance from the person he is refering to, you being unaware of this and making him out to be a rude person could be considered rude from you. Your knowledge of opinionated dynamics is insufficient, you are doing exactly what this person is doing, giving an opinion about an opinion (in which i am doing too) but you act as though he's the bad guy where as he's doing so in the same manner as you towards the person he's talking about, he's just not unaware like you though. This further adds to your hypocrisy making you quite ignorant. Fai, another troll am I right? I think I'm getting the hang of this :P If you were referring to his opinion about this particular anime instead of his opinion about someones statement in such a manner then actually state it, your previous context showed that you were referring to his opinion about anothers. Of course this is an anime discussion thread and it's all related, giving an opinion about an opinion isn't unnecessary as it can help clarify ignorant perceptions made on this topic. If you invested a small amount of time into learning basic opinionated dynamics you would realize this. It's pretty foolish to say this is not overall about opinions when this is an opinion based thread/topic where you discuss what you personally think. If i actually were a troll then you'd just be feeding me more, how is that getting the hang of it? Please learn some basic logic before posting. |
azndragongohanJun 20, 2009 11:39 AM
Jun 20, 2009 12:12 PM
#131
azndragongohan said: TROLL. Ignored.If you were referring to his opinion about this particular anime instead of his opinion about someones statement in such a manner then actually state it, your previous context showed that you were referring to his opinion about anothers. Of course this is an anime discussion thread and it's all related, giving an opinion about an opinion isn't unnecessary as it can help clarify ignorant perceptions made on this topic. If you invested a small amount of time into learning basic opinionated dynamics you would realize this. It's pretty foolish to say this is not overall about opinions when this is an opinion based thread/topic where you discuss what you personally think. If i actually were a troll then you'd just be feeding me more, how is that getting the hang of it? Please learn some basic logic before posting. |
Jun 20, 2009 12:39 PM
#132
robbydesu said: TROLL. Ignored. Wrong way to do it. Just DON'T even reply ^^ that solves it always. |
Jun 20, 2009 12:40 PM
#133
Fai said: In due time...in due time I will be able to do this properly!! *determined face* :Drobbydesu said: TROLL. Ignored. Wrong way to do it. Just DON'T even reply ^^ that solves it always. |
Jun 20, 2009 3:20 PM
#134
greenmush said: lol when Ed imagine himself taller i was like LOL i LOL`ed also :P |
Jun 20, 2009 11:57 PM
#136
robbydesu said: azndragongohan said: TROLL. Ignored.If you were referring to his opinion about this particular anime instead of his opinion about someones statement in such a manner then actually state it, your previous context showed that you were referring to his opinion about anothers. Of course this is an anime discussion thread and it's all related, giving an opinion about an opinion isn't unnecessary as it can help clarify ignorant perceptions made on this topic. If you invested a small amount of time into learning basic opinionated dynamics you would realize this. It's pretty foolish to say this is not overall about opinions when this is an opinion based thread/topic where you discuss what you personally think. If i actually were a troll then you'd just be feeding me more, how is that getting the hang of it? Please learn some basic logic before posting. Falsely assuming I'm a troll wont get you anywhere, especially since you keep replying. None the less you were still made out to look stupid, I wouldn't expect more from a typical anime fangirl n00b. -_- Fai said: robbydesu said: TROLL. Ignored. Wrong way to do it. Just DON'T even reply ^^ that solves it always. If anyone were to be trolling here it'd most likely be you with your highly ignorant posts. |
azndragongohanJun 21, 2009 4:27 AM
Jun 21, 2009 9:26 AM
#137
| Trying to argue with you is like throwing and catching a porcupine.. -.-' Very prickly. Has the sub version of ep 12 come out yet? I can't find it anywhere.. =( |
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Jun 21, 2009 10:31 AM
#138
Saffy said: Trying to argue with you is like throwing and catching a porcupine.. -.-' Very prickly. Has the sub version of ep 12 come out yet? I can't find it anywhere.. =( Not such a good simile, I've seen worse though. ^_^ |
Jun 21, 2009 11:32 AM
#139
Jun 21, 2009 11:42 AM
#140
magelet said: Yeap I am too :(..Saffy said: Trying to argue with you is like throwing and catching a porcupine.. -.-' Very prickly. Has the sub version of ep 12 come out yet? I can't find it anywhere.. =( I haven't seen it either. I'm having trouble accessing eclipse's site atm, anyone else having this problem? |
Jun 21, 2009 12:36 PM
#141
robbydesu said: magelet said: Yeap I am too :(..Saffy said: Trying to argue with you is like throwing and catching a porcupine.. -.-' Very prickly. Has the sub version of ep 12 come out yet? I can't find it anywhere.. =( I haven't seen it either. I'm having trouble accessing eclipse's site atm, anyone else having this problem? Looks like Funimation had the parent server shut down... read this copy/paste from the Eclipse IRC: http://cryptwizard.info/2009/05/03/what-happened-to-eclipse/ check here now ;) Episode 11 hasn't been released yet. Pretty soon though I have a feeling that Brotherhood will only be available on the streams (whenever Funi puts it back up) and DVD since it seems like Funi is really cracking down on the fansub groups. |
OmegaoverideJun 21, 2009 12:41 PM
Jun 21, 2009 12:42 PM
#142
Omegaoveride said: If they stopped being so mean, then maybe more people will buy their dvds :P I kid I kidPretty soon though I have a feeling that Brotherhood will only be available on the streams and DVD since it seems like Funi is really cracking down on the fansub groups. P.S. Thanks for the info! <3 |
Jun 21, 2009 2:19 PM
#143
Omegaoveride said: Looks like Funimation had the parent server shut down... read this copy/paste from the Eclipse IRC: http://cryptwizard.info/2009/05/03/what-happened-to-eclipse/ check here now ;) Episode 11 hasn't been released yet. Pretty soon though I have a feeling that Brotherhood will only be available on the streams (whenever Funi puts it back up) and DVD since it seems like Funi is really cracking down on the fansub groups. WTF Funi, that is lame. We're all going to buy your freaking DVDs anyway, why can't you let us have our fansubs? :/ Thanks for the link to the new site! Ep 12 is out now... |
Jun 21, 2009 2:35 PM
#144
magelet said: Omegaoveride said: Looks like Funimation had the parent server shut down... read this copy/paste from the Eclipse IRC: http://cryptwizard.info/2009/05/03/what-happened-to-eclipse/ check here now ;) Episode 11 hasn't been released yet. Pretty soon though I have a feeling that Brotherhood will only be available on the streams (whenever Funi puts it back up) and DVD since it seems like Funi is really cracking down on the fansub groups. WTF Funi, that is lame. We're all going to buy your freaking DVDs anyway, why can't you let us have our fansubs? :/ Thanks for the link to the new site! Ep 12 is out now... And for those who don't use torrents. http://www.animetake.com/fullmetal-alchemist-2-brotherhood-episode-12/ enjoy! |
Jun 21, 2009 2:38 PM
#145
| For some reason I get the feeling that this whole Funi/Fansub thing is going to become the next Metallica/Napster lawsuit. If Funi is honestly worried about loosing sales, better safeguard your streams. Provide HD streams as well as downloads at like .99 cents or something. I mean seriously trying to shut down fansubbing really isn't going to increase your bottom-line at all. I mean people donwload music still and oh wait... still buy CDs? Shocking.... |
Jun 24, 2009 8:27 PM
#146
| For some reason I didnt like this series the first time around. But now Im a big fan! Go figure... Well this episode was great, a bit fast paced but they still pulled it off quite nicely. The baby scene, Al daydreaming about being taller... xD Cant wait for next weeks episode! |
Jun 25, 2009 10:35 PM
#147
Jun 26, 2009 12:34 PM
#148
| This was one of the most annoying parts of the first anime and thankfully why still a little annoying it was much less so then the first time around. Also much funnier which is always a plus point. |
Jul 16, 2009 5:16 AM
#149
Dec 8, 2009 1:41 AM
#150
WinterNightsFall said: dbaranyi said: I wonder why they are even bothering to re-do the parts that were already done in the first version - this isn't adding anything at all, except for rushed and unfunny attempts at humor. They would have been better off starting with the manga-only plotline. And we get yet another re-hash episode next week. Because surprise! Not everybody has seen the first season. Blows your mind doesn't it. :P Exactly people... you should seriously tone down the spoilers, its kind of rediculous. True that most people have seen it, but you could get some people angry. |
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