| They can't take my loli's way |
Drunk_Samurai said: Feminists were also the ones pushing to ban rape eroge. Again, I will point out that your liberal use of the word feminism stems from your lack of understanding that an ideological movement is not represented by the actions of the self-professed members. |
CrimeIntraSep 30, 2014 6:57 PM
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Crimefridge said: Drunk_Samurai said: Feminists were also the ones pushing to ban rape eroge. Again, I will point out that your liberal use of the word feminism stems from your lack of understanding that an ideological movement is not represented by the actions of the self-professed members. It isn't a liberal use of the word when they call themselves feminists. |
Drunk_Samurai said: [ It isn't a liberal use of the word when they call themselves feminists. I can call myself a god damn nympho fairy pirate zombie but that doesn't mean that: A.) I'm actually one and B.) That I represent the damn species. See, when someone calls themselves a "christian" that doesn't make them one either. Unlike political parties, the term "democrat" doesn't mean you believe the party line, in Congress it means you're a member of the group, which is an established fact, not a self-professed opinion. The difference between "this man was a president" and "I'm a good person" is that one is an established fact while the other requires substantial investigation to prove. Most of all, does the Catholic priests molesting children get to intermingle with the Pope Francis image of Catholicism, and claim the people UNDER the idea are rewriting the original definition? Not when the original definition is a static one, like Catholicism. A new branch, with different rules, gets a different name. You can say "visible feminists are generally harmful on the news", but say "feminists are hurting society" and you're pigeonholing a bunch of people who aren't even related because you lack the mental acuity to aim with words so you load up on the birdshot instead of the sniper rifle. Then you're gonna defend that mess saying sniper rifles don't exist and that birdshot is the only answer. Please. |
CrimeIntraSep 30, 2014 8:59 PM
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| What's next? I can see they wanted to ban big-breasted female characters as well. |
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Okiura said: rederoin said: That does not mean they are in the right, just because its the majority. Those are not arguments The Law are the rules decided by the majority that govern the society. It's not a poll or a moral issue about right or wrong. Still doesn't mean the law is always right. If laws were right all the time, we'd still have slavery, women would still have no rights and homosexuality would still be illegal where it's legal now, to name a few examples. |
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Onee_SAMA said: Loli manga is offensive??? lol wait till they see what happens in Yemen. Mmmm, and Morocco - they arrange marriage with ten years old girlchilds, evidently the man is older -. So like I said real world is the worst ;D |
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Crimefridge said: Drunk_Samurai said: [ It isn't a liberal use of the word when they call themselves feminists. I can call myself a god damn nympho fairy pirate zombie but that doesn't mean that: A.) I'm actually one and B.) That I represent the damn species. See, when someone calls themselves a "christian" that doesn't make them one either. Unlike political parties, the term "democrat" doesn't mean you believe the party line, in Congress it means you're a member of the group, which is an established fact, not a self-professed opinion. The difference between "this man was a president" and "I'm a good person" is that one is an established fact while the other requires substantial investigation to prove. Most of all, does the Catholic priests molesting children get to intermingle with the Pope Francis image of Catholicism, and claim the people UNDER the idea are rewriting the original definition? Not when the original definition is a static one, like Catholicism. A new branch, with different rules, gets a different name. You can say "visible feminists are generally harmful on the news", but say "feminists are hurting society" and you're pigeonholing a bunch of people who aren't even related because you lack the mental acuity to aim with words so you load up on the birdshot instead of the sniper rifle. Then you're gonna defend that mess saying sniper rifles don't exist and that birdshot is the only answer. Please. Yet you still fail to realize that because they call themselves feminists people who are actually intelligent should not call themselves feminists. They should just support women's rights but never call themselves a feminist. |
Drunk_Samurai said: Yet you still fail to realize that because they call themselves feminists people who are actually intelligent should not call themselves feminists. They should just support women's rights but never call themselves a feminist. So, let me get this straight - you're saying, because someone hijacked a historical movement that was relevant, pertinent and righteous by being loud and obnoxious, they should change their name? So... basically your argument is "everyone should change their name because someone defamed it, thus, I can use the term because they haven't changed it yet" Sounds pretty hilarious. |
| How do people get to 2000 hours when I'm already this bored? |
Crimefridge said: Drunk_Samurai said: Yet you still fail to realize that because they call themselves feminists people who are actually intelligent should not call themselves feminists. They should just support women's rights but never call themselves a feminist. So, let me get this straight - you're saying, because someone hijacked a historical movement that was relevant, pertinent and righteous by being loud and obnoxious, they should change their name? So... basically your argument is "everyone should change their name because someone defamed it, thus, I can use the term because they haven't changed it yet" Sounds pretty hilarious. I never said anything about changing any name. I just said not to call yourself a feminist. |
Still doesn't mean the law is always right. If laws were right all the time, we'd still have slavery, women would still have no rights and homosexuality would still be illegal where it's legal now, to name a few examples.[/quote] I don't think the exclusion of animation from the legal child pr definition is comparable to the abolition of slavery. Again, the right and wrong are the domain of morals, not law. Hash is legal in NL and Homosexuality is illegal in Malaysia because Dutch and Malaysians want so, we can't say for sure if they're right or wrong. Law is a set of rules that, at some point, the majority (in democracy the representatives/legislators) think would benefit the organization of their society. The Civil rights movement and woman rights militants had their arguments to flip this majority and make their societies evolve. What are your arguments to do the same with child pr laws ? |
Drunk_Samurai said: I never said anything about changing any name. I just said not to call yourself a feminist. Let me try this again. You're saying that because feminism is an ideological premise that people should not identify with it? This is the equivalent to saying those who believe in Christianity should not call themselves Christians. In my previous post, I outlined why radical feminists' ideas can not be claimed to be representative of feminism: Crimefridge said: See, when someone calls themselves a "christian" that doesn't make them one either. Unlike political parties, the term "democrat" doesn't mean you believe the party line, in Congress it means you're a member of the group, which is an established fact, not a self-professed opinion. While people who call themselves Christians do not effect the original idea of what origin Christianity is, this does not mean that people cannot claim to be "Christian" by ideological similarity. One can't effect the original concept, but one can tag the concept as having an effect on them. A movement like original feminism is the equivalent of a CD-R: it can be read but not written on. The "fluid concept" of feminism is like a CD-RW but with part of the files locked and required(original feminism) for it to functionally run. When you say "feminism" without modifiers, you are addressing the whole of feminism. Your argument in summary, is "I think women should have equal rights to men, and I do not think they have reached that point" is okay, but using the word "feminist", which sums the entire premise up, is dirty? So, basically you think "feminist" as a word is the equivalent to slang word so it should be discarded. Or, you think that feminists are supposed to be "ideologically pure" by not claiming to be one because they would taint the idea? (Thus eradicating the word "feminist" entirely, which would not even allow you to use the term "feminism" for slander like you have done multiple times in this thread.) Either direction seems awfully self-entitled in thinking. "If they call themselves feminists, they aren't actually living up to the moral standard of perfection, but I can also claim those who are radical self-proclaimed feminists as representing the movement when I use " feminism " as allegory for my discontentment with a select few." If you think feminists shouldn't call themselves feminists, then you can't have the double-standard of criticizing a select few by calling them feminists. Nonsensical. (As for the "why not egalitarianism instead of feminism" argument, that was covered on page 22, near the top:) Crimefridge said: |
CrimeIntraOct 1, 2014 5:55 PM
| How do people get to 2000 hours when I'm already this bored? |
| Still can't believe after 8 months someone is defending Loli's. What is so intriguing about them? |
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sullynathan said: Still can't believe after 8 months someone is defending Loli's. What is so intriguing about them? 9 months, 8 days to be precise :) |
| How do people get to 2000 hours when I'm already this bored? |
Okiura said: I don't think the exclusion of animation from the legal child pr definition is comparable to the abolition of slavery. I wasn't comparing anything, just giving examples of things that weren't illegal by law back in the days, but are illegal now, and vice versa, to show how a law can change over time. Again, the right and wrong are the domain of morals, not law. Hash is legal in NL and Homosexuality is illegal in Malaysia because Dutch and Malaysians want so, we can't say for sure if they're right or wrong. If large groups of people are harmed by a law without any harm to those outside that group, then the law is wrong. Main reasons Malaysians want it so is because of religion, though I wonder if the people had any say in it at all, and weren't just 'overruled' by their religious leaders/bribed politicians. Oh, and democracy in The Netherlands is pretty much dead. Our 'representatives' don't give a shit what we want or do not want. They just think they know and do all sorts of stupid stuff to prove that, like making hash mostly illegal, despite banning it having shown to increase illegal drug trafficking and cause more public disturbance. (and probably crime rates as well). Law is a set of rules that, at some point, the majority (in democracy the representatives/legislators) think would benefit the organization of their society. The Civil rights movement and woman rights militants had their arguments to flip this majority and make their societies evolve. What are your arguments to do the same with child pr laws ? Who said anything about flipping around CP laws? All I want done with said laws is have them contain a clear distinction between child porn and loli/shota porn, so that the police stops wasting time going after innocent artists and takes on the real sickos (those who actually own or make porn involving real children), instead. |
Firelord76Oct 1, 2014 11:28 PM
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| If it speak like feminist, look like feminist and walk like feminists - than it's just that, G-d-fuckin'-dam' feminist. It doesn't matter that somewhere in the oh so glorious & pure past feminists were somethin' somehow different. Modern feminists clearly originate from past feminists. It's like "hey, let's not call modern communists "communists" 'cause, y'know, they're not like "true" communists from, like, '3Oth of past century". What the fuck. And religion, seriously? The fuck is that I don't even. Arab Muslims want the rest of the world dead or converted. Yeah, why not, let them try, that's what their religion tells, they have rights. Stated law? How about Russia, there is the law that prohibitin' homosexual propaganda. That's the stated law. There was no such law in USSR, homosexuality in whole was illegal & punishable in USSR, so there is how law changed over times. Fer crissake, please, stop this terrible pseudo-Freudian quasi-psychologism. It's all like "those who like FPS games are tend to became killers", or "those who like tsunderes are just closet masochists" and such shit. Don't mix fantasy and reality, it's just really stupid & infantile. |
There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
kitsune0 said: If it speak like feminist, look like feminist and walk like feminists - than it's just that, G-d-fuckin'-dam' feminist. It doesn't matter that somewhere in the oh so glorious & pure past feminists were somethin' somehow different. Modern feminists clearly originate from past feminists. It's like "hey, let's not call modern communists "communists" 'cause, y'know, they're not like "true" communists from, like, '3Oth of past century". What the fuck. And religion, seriously? The fuck is that I don't even. Arab Muslims want the rest of the world dead or converted. Yeah, why not, let them try, that's what their religion tells, they have rights. Stated law? How about Russia, there is the law that prohibitin' homosexual propaganda. That's the stated law. There was no such law in USSR, homosexuality in whole was illegal & punishable in USSR, so there is how law changed over times. Fer crissake, please, stop this terrible pseudo-Freudian quasi-psychologism. It's all like "those who like FPS games are tend to became killers", or "those who like tsunderes are just closet masochists" and such shit. Don't mix fantasy and reality, it's just really stupid & infantile. This is one of the best arguments, so all is rounding blame or not blame others opinions like in a kindergarten - this is no a loli argument, feminists XD -. So real is real and a bad one, reality comes with irreal fantasies, so the most are good some can be analized like mental illness, so again go to the quarrel and this is no ending way, so the thread is about feminist against loli issue, no go for feminist demagogy nor feminist blaming, go to the fact. And say clair like me: I see this feminist motion a waste of time, save real girlchild from real world wrong mood. . . The rest is fictionary. Go to the importan fact, the issue is that feminist can move a little part of their society, but can't move medieval laws goverments nor countries that their evolution go fall due religionary S H I T - attending Europe go out of this issue take more than six centuries - and many wars -, imagine what happen on countries . . . with ancient fosilized customs, or religionary fanatical behaviour. See what happend to Egypt, their population was happy, muslims laws were sweeted, so more freedom to all people - women included - so when a radical muslim party wanted change this behaviour, the most of people fought for their rights to defend their pass lives of F R E E D O M. The eye of the fanatical is blinded to the Reality. Reason must prevail So taking part against an unreal fact like lolis drawings is ridiculous. - this is no a loli defend, so I dislike the more, so no sense but there are some animation with this kind of character that are good ones Toaru majutsu no INDEX, PapaKiki, so Ro Kyu Buu!! i.e. - this likes don't generalize me into a lolicom, so I saw this anime with enjoyment and amusing at all, but it's this, just entertaiment not mad fantasies about someone less aged than me. Like I said this will be ridiculous to think. |
DcyendOct 2, 2014 11:30 AM
I'll tell you something, my Tenchi. You know, the carnival comes and goes... if you wait for a while, it'll always come back to you, Tenchi. |
kitsune0 said: If it speak like feminist, look like feminist and walk like feminists - than it's just that, G-d-fuckin'-dam' feminist. No..? I've discussed this already... |
| How do people get to 2000 hours when I'm already this bored? |
| Lolis are good for mankind. Proof - http://myanimelist.net/manga/24397/Tsukimisou_no_Akari |
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| Thx for necroing all the shit you found in the whole forum. |
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| Huh How is loli manga similar to walking with signs calling for the death of Koreans. |
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| Nice necro |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
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| The next target after the gaming industry would be the anime industry. |
incisorr said: i love it when people start acting like some neutral almighty unbiased godly judge and they even believe their own shit, suddenly its not their thoughts and opinions anymore but the righteous justice god way, they are unbiased, non-subjective, they just are! To be honest, everyone is like this quite often, me included, but i don't forget myself and i still post a lot of personal shit which is what forums are made for , if they didn't want us to have our own style and posts it would be an article instead a forum thread. |
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| It is so dense. Every single image has so many things going on. |
Ratohnhaketon said: Lolis are good for mankind. Proof - http://myanimelist.net/manga/24397/Tsukimisou_no_Akari What a great synopsis. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Just read the title. Sorry I'm late, but this is funny as **** |
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Ventose said: I don't know who is more funny, that image or the fact that you posted it with that avatar. Ratohnhaketon said: Lolis are good for mankind. Proof - http://myanimelist.net/manga/24397/Tsukimisou_no_Akari That synopsis is pure gold. |
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Oxalias said: This kind of stupidity is typical of feminists these days. If it was that typical, you probably wouldn't have to say it's typical. Clearly, it is not typical, yet you choose to necro this thread to make an asinine guilt-by-association point to smear "feminists". |
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| Even though I personally don't like Lolis that much because they aren't for me like shots isn't for me, they haven't hurt anyone (and to anyone who dares argues they promote pedophiles ,one it's not proven by since and two it's fiction and most loli fans are normal Joe's who just like it and geez may as well get rid of a bunch of "hate speech stuff " ) Good news as a woman I'm offend by damn "feminst " who do this type of bs. Hopefully everyone signs them off as crazy morons who need to get outside and actually do some thing useful and instead of being a whiny idiot claiming to be something they aren't. |
| The feminist are doing gods work on this one. |
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| How about no. |
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Ventose said: What a terrible, boring joke. |
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Ratohnhaketon said: Lolis are good for mankind. Proof - http://myanimelist.net/manga/24397/Tsukimisou_no_Akari That's the best synopsis I've ever seen. I haven't seen the "pomf" girl in a long time lol |
| アル晴レタ日ノ事 魔法以上のユカイが 限りなく降りそそぐ 不可能じゃないわ |
Chibi-Alice said: Cases like this makes me embarrased to be female :( I know, right. I think I'm in the 1% of feminists who thinks lolicon/shotacon material is okay to have BECAUSE THEY'RE F*CKING DRAWINGS. |
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Dcyend said: Onee_SAMA said: Loli manga is offensive??? lol wait till they see what happens in Yemen. Mmmm, and Morocco - they arrange marriage with ten years old girlchilds, evidently the man is older -. So like I said real world is the worst ;D But Morocco isn't part of the Western world, and so we should respect its culture (=turn a blind eye to any violation of human rights that happen there). |
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| I've stopped reading most of the crap feminist say a while ago, while some of their concerns can be understood, most of it is pure garbage nowadays. And stay away from ma lolis |
| Why does this thread still exist, I thought we were past this already! |
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| Isolated protesters is one thing. What bothers me is when the MSM gives a platform to these censorship advocates.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30698640 Or when they get inside UNICEF and start pressuring Japan. Plus the concept of prurient interest abd obscenity are still enforced in the united states. I am not sure how we tolerate this. 2weeaboo4u said: If everyone simply read Lolicon: the reality of "virtual child pornography" in Japan by Patrick W. Galbraith, these pointless arguments would go away. Lolicon is a non-issue. That is a link to all of Galbraith's papers. https://www.academia.edu/3665383/Lolicon_The_Reality_of_Virtual_Child_Pornography_in_Japan is more specific. |
YJBSep 8, 2016 1:38 AM
| You should also not worry. The UN got btfo'd by the crazy japs, pretty sure a couple of crazy women won't make much of a difference. Otaku pandering is cancer, but feminism is the plague of human existence. I only wish to see weebs and femtards destroy eachother. I'll pay large amounts of money for that. Mod Edit: @Sjo Please stop double posting. It's against the rules. Edit: @Tyrel I don't know what that is. Do you mean posting 2 comments at once? If so, then alright, I'll be more careful. |
MZXJSep 8, 2016 8:40 PM
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| Alone no but crazed women have a contagious potential to form mass crazy which whiteknighting manginas eventually cave to. I don't even know what a weeb is.... Is that like weeaboo? I can't remember what that is either, liking specific series? I might still qualify even though I haven't watched anime in over a year since I got a PVR and began reacquainting with western media. |
tyciol said: The most perfect description of fujoshis ever made.crazed women have a contagious potential to form mass crazy And yes, weeb is short for weeaboo, euphemism for another euphemism. Weeaboo is white Japanophile, someone who thinks Japan culture or Japan in general is superior to Western, someone who wants to live in Japan and essentially became Japanese himself/herself. Usually it's just some fresh anime fan who only recently discovered anime and doesn't know much about it and Japan in general. "In the end, all of it will pass with age", as The King once said. |
| There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
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