RyanSaotome said: rederoin said: We don't know that yet. You can use common sense, since its an event ticket anime. For which we don't know the drop yet. Reminder that it will sell more than Gochiusa v1, which also had an event ticket and is still a borderline 10k seller. |
rederoin said: RyanSaotome said: You can use common sense, since its an event ticket anime. For which we don't know the drop yet. Reminder that it will sell more than Gochiusa v1, which also had an event ticket and is still a borderline 10k seller. Female oriented anime have far bigger event ticket drops than male shows. |
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RyanSaotome said: Female oriented anime have far bigger event ticket drops than male shows. This is not a female oriented show, or atleast we don't know how big its female audience is. I think, at best, it has a split gender fanbase. Its BD/DVD ratio is far from equal, and it will get even less equal starting with v2(1k point drop in the DVD estimate, but no drop in the BD estimate). Not to mention how female targeted shows are also known for having a storefront effect. Just accept we don't know how much it'll drop yet. Black butler, which we acteally know is a female oriented show, also did not really have a huge event ticket drop(22% from v1wk1). So it really is to early to tell how big it'll be, |
| Wew didn't expect that nozaki kun can sold that well, that's a good thing though :) |
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| Super happy for Nozaki-Kun! Great show that deserves a second season. I really wish Barakamon would sell more tho - i mean 5.7k is not that bad, but ugh, it deserves way more - this way we might not see S2, sigh. |
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| Hanayamata failed to sell, it's the tragedy of the season. Barakamon fared better but didn't hit 6000 just yet, it needs 6000 as merchandise isn't plentiful (if any even exists). |
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| aww yeah for Aldnoah!! can't wait for the second season :D |
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| Hell yeah, after those last episodes the hype just won't stop XD *5. *8,057 *8,057 Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei "Nyuugaku-hen" Vol.3 Limited Edition *8. *2,112 **2,112 Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei "Nyuugaku-hen" Vol.3 Limited Edition 88. *,668 **7,377 Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei ED "Mirror" by Rei Yasuda Jojo :O when Iggy, D'arby, Vanilla Ice and Dio get there, sh!t will get real :) |
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FIREF0X said: Roloko said: A/Z is a great mecha, but a little bit too depressing imo cause my favorite character suffers the entire damn series and probably will all next season too. Dx but its nowhere near as good as a long running franchise Gundam lol Urobutcher was fooling himself thinking like this. xD 1. No it's not a great mecha. 2. Urobutcher was hired to only create the concept and write the first three episodes after that he left and another writer took over. Also he never said it was going to be as good as Gundam, one of the A-1 guys did. Seriously the lack of awareness from some of the fans of this show is shocking. It's kind of MAL, like what do you expect. The fact that people think a show that had all the hype in the world and every advantage this summer with it's staff being the 5th or 6th best seller (and these results are for all the Urobuchi episodes incidentally) means it's doing great and they should watch it also says a lot to me. People just make up these ideas inside their own head, I mean to me MAL is like exactly the kind of community that sort of hyping is targeted at and about the only one that would believe all the claims they made yet the market is Japan so I still don't really get what they were thinking. All that hype and advertising seems like such a waste in retrospect just to get a mecha show that can't even cross the 10,000 line in it's first week. Still MAL thinks that's a brilliant and bold move that totally paid off, but again I just keep telling myself it's MAL, what're you gonna do. mac9955 said: He wrote entire outline for the series, and then another author did slight tweaks but tried to stay true to Urobutchers original vision. Read the interviews, Aoki even admits they didn't and is actually very forthcoming on the things that got changed from the original draft like a fair bit of characterization that was lost in order to make Inaho seem more cool and stoic to viewers and Slaine actually doing things and taking more effective action in the original script. They even changed things like who took the last shot on the rocket punch mech from Marito to Rayet and the way the cour ended was originally totally different with Inaho and Asseylum becoming more romantically involved(remember they gutted characterization for him and Urobuchi even said the character he created is different from the blank faced Inaho we got, there's even available line art on the internet showing him smiling and emoting among other things) and Slaine ending up coming to take her back with him as a twist. |
PeacingOutSep 30, 2014 9:34 AM
| it's great to see that barakamon and gekkan shoujo nozaki kun are doing well in sales. i hope they keep it up so that we might get 2nd seasons from them. i'm surprised that terror in resonance didn't even rank. it wasn't that bad. why do shows like love live get that many sales? holy guacamole O_O i'm curious to see how glasslip will do next week |
Kaioshin_Sama said: FIREF0X said: 1. No it's not a great mecha. 2. Urobutcher was hired to only create the concept and write the first three episodes after that he left and another writer took over. Also he never said it was going to be as good as Gundam, one of the A-1 guys did. Seriously the lack of awareness from some of the fans of this show is shocking. It's kind of MAL, like what do you expect. The fact that people think a show that had all the hype in the world and every advantage this summer with it's staff being the 5th or 6th best seller (and these results are for all the Urobuchi episodes incidentally) means it's doing great and they should watch it also says a lot to me. People just make up these ideas inside their own head, I mean to me MAL is like exactly the kind of community that sort of hyping is targeted at and about the only one that would believe all the claims they made yet the market is Japan so I still don't really get what they were thinking. All that hype and advertising seems like such a waste in retrospect just to get a mecha show that can't even cross the 10,000 line in it's first week. Still MAL thinks that's a brilliant and bold move that totally paid off, but again I just keep telling myself it's MAL, what're you gonna do. How do you know it did not pay off, do you have access to its financial data? Not every anime needs to hit 10k(top 10% of all anime) to be successful. |
rederoin said: Kaioshin_Sama said: It's kind of MAL, like what do you expect. The fact that people think a show that had all the hype in the world and every advantage this summer with it's staff being the 5th or 6th best seller (and these results are for all the Urobuchi episodes incidentally) means it's doing great and they should watch it also says a lot to me. People just make up these ideas inside their own head, I mean to me MAL is like exactly the kind of community that sort of hyping is targeted at and about the only one that would believe all the claims they made yet the market is Japan so I still don't really get what they were thinking. All that hype and advertising seems like such a waste in retrospect just to get a mecha show that can't even cross the 10,000 line in it's first week. Still MAL thinks that's a brilliant and bold move that totally paid off, but again I just keep telling myself it's MAL, what're you gonna do. How do you know it did not pay off, do you have access to its financial data? Not every anime needs to hit 10k(top 10% of all anime) to be successful. I would imagine anybody would be disappointed when they went through all this planning for like 3 years to assemble this super team they were extremely proud of if you read the early interviews about the show from a year ago and an advertising blitzkrieg only to end up with yet another show that's a modest seller at best. It's just a waste of advertising for very little gain and having people essentially come to realize just how full of shit you are. I mean they even released the show in Summer with next to no real competition in terms of blockbusters and hyped shows and it's still middling numbers. Hopefully more people start to take notice of the empty promises in any case....I mean the people that would be likely to notice so MAL is exempt. |
| Yay for Nozaki-kun!! I do feel like Barakamon deserved to sell more. And where the hell is Zankyou no Terror? I expected it to at least make the rankings, even sell well, despite Five. |
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rederoin said: RyanSaotome said: Female oriented anime have far bigger event ticket drops than male shows. This is not a female oriented show, or atleast we don't know how big its female audience is. I think, at best, it has a split gender fanbase. http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/08/22-1/womens-votes-help-make-free-summers-most-popular-anime At third, Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun was even more lop-sided with 94% of its votes coming from women. A show with a self insert main girl and surrounded by a bunch of hot guys is about as female oriented as it gets |
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| Aldnoah pulling in like 1.5k more than stalker said it would. IDC what the idiot hype masters said, 8k is really good sales. |
phoenixalia said: RyanSaotome said: A show with a self insert main girl and surrounded by a bunch of hot guys is about as female oriented as it gets I wouldn't call Chiyo a self-insert heroine. And the series actually has a balanced cast of males and females. But I won't deny that the series is very popular with females. Main girl, her friend and a "trap" are the only girls... and the trap might as well be a guy. It would be like saying some girly male trap in another show makes it gender balanced, when its only a female character thats called male. Essentially its 2 girls and 5 characters who look like guys. |
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trabeus1 said: wtf Bakumatsu Rock actually sells? WTF? WHATS WRONG WITH (corrected) BUYING THIS CRAP?????? It sold horribly. How come every week in this thread there's someone who goes "I can't believe (insert show name) sold so much!" when it sells terribly? |
| Look at all the edge nerds raging that Nozaki kun got good sales. Cant anyone just be happy? Also as a moe loving neckbeard I have to say mahouka's sales being this high are a joke, and I'm not surprised by Zankyou no Terror's low sales. Winter_Fox_Tami said: trabeus1 said: wtf Bakumatsu Rock actually sells? WTF? WHATS WRONG WITH (corrected) BUYING THIS CRAP?????? It sold horribly. How come every week in this thread there's someone who goes "I can't believe (insert show name) sold so much!" when it sells terribly? 3800 isnt terrible. Mod Edit: Merged double post; please use the edit button. |
rodacSep 30, 2014 2:00 PM
SolviteSekai said: Look at all the edge nerds raging that Nozaki kun got good sales. Cant anyone just be happy? I don't really care it sold well. It was an alright show, nothing great but not bad either. I was just saying that there should be an expectation of the sales falling off significantly later on based on other female oriented shows. |
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nedratje said: Yay for Nozaki-kun!! I do feel like Barakamon deserved to sell more. And where the hell is Zankyou no Terror? I expected it to at least make the rankings, even sell well, despite Five. It sold like 400 DVD's, so it didn't rank, the Blu-ray's will chart on Thursday, but they aren't expected to be much better. Major flop. |
RyanSaotome said: SolviteSekai said: Look at all the edge nerds raging that Nozaki kun got good sales. Cant anyone just be happy? I don't really care it sold well. It was an alright show, nothing great but not bad either. I was just saying that there should be an expectation of the sales falling off significantly later on based on other female oriented shows. >Shounen manga >Shounen anime. > Female Oriented. Did you even watch Nozaki-kun or are you just butthurt? Winter_Fox_Tami said: nedratje said: Yay for Nozaki-kun!! I do feel like Barakamon deserved to sell more. And where the hell is Zankyou no Terror? I expected it to at least make the rankings, even sell well, despite Five. It sold like 400 DVD's, so it didn't rank, the Blu-ray's will chart on Thursday, but they aren't expected to be much better. Major flop. ZnT didnt sell because none of that directors shows ever sell. Cowboy Bebop flopped, Space Dandy Flopped, now ZnT flopped. Face it, the guys shows are made for adult swim at this point. Mod Edit: Merged double post; please use the edit button. |
rodacSep 30, 2014 2:04 PM
SolviteSekai said: RyanSaotome said: I don't really care it sold well. It was an alright show, nothing great but not bad either. I was just saying that there should be an expectation of the sales falling off significantly later on based on other female oriented shows. >Shounen manga >Shounen anime. > Female Oriented. Did you even watch Nozaki-kun or are you just butthurt? Shonen has nothing to do with it. Stuff like Kuroko and Haikyuu are shonen but its mainly women watching and buying it. |
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RyanSaotome said: SolviteSekai said: >Shounen manga >Shounen anime. > Female Oriented. Did you even watch Nozaki-kun or are you just butthurt? Shonen has nothing to do with it. Stuff like Kuroko and Haikyuu are shonen but its mainly women watching and buying it. Proof? Or are you just pulling this shit straight out of your ass? |
SolviteSekai said: RyanSaotome said: Shonen has nothing to do with it. Stuff like Kuroko and Haikyuu are shonen but its mainly women watching and buying it. Proof? Or are you just pulling this shit straight out of your ass? you're really asking for proof that shows about hot guys are bought by women? |
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RyanSaotome said: SolviteSekai said: Proof? Or are you just pulling this shit straight out of your ass? you're really asking for proof that shows about hot guys are bought by women? Did you even watch haikyuu? |
SolviteSekai said: Did you even watch haikyuu? No, I'm not into sweaty guys.  But women are. |
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RyanSaotome said: SolviteSekai said: Did you even watch haikyuu? No, I'm not into sweaty guys. But women are. Can you list your actual source and not just embed an image? And Haikyuu doesnt have sweaty guys, or virtually any fan service whatsoever. I'm starting to question if you are just a sweaty nerd who hates sports and comedy. phoenixalia said: SolviteSekai said: >Shounen manga >Shounen anime. > Female Oriented. Did you even watch Nozaki-kun or are you just butthurt? You know, shounen is very popular with females. Look at Kuroko, Haikyuu!!, Magi, Noragami, Gintama, Kuroshitsuji and the like. And if you want proof, look at that all that merchandise of the male characters which is made for women. Implying that Kuroko is MAINLY bought and watched by fujoshi is fucking ignorant. |
RyanSaotome said: rederoin said: This is not a female oriented show, or atleast we don't know how big its female audience is. I think, at best, it has a split gender fanbase. http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/08/22-1/womens-votes-help-make-free-summers-most-popular-anime At third, Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun was even more lop-sided with 94% of its votes coming from women. A show with a self insert main girl and surrounded by a bunch of hot guys is about as female oriented as it gets 1 single survey is not enough for me to believe its a woman oriented show, especially if we don't know how many people voted on it. |
rederoin said: RyanSaotome said: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/08/22-1/womens-votes-help-make-free-summers-most-popular-anime A show with a self insert main girl and surrounded by a bunch of hot guys is about as female oriented as it gets 1 single survey is not enough for me to believe its a woman oriented show, especially if we don't know how many people voted on it. These people clearly haven't actually seen Nozaki-kun. Its filled with VN references and actually has a good bit male oriented fan service. |
SolviteSekai said: You don't even know what fanservice means. Female fans prefer different kind than males.hurr durr |
SolviteSekai said: Winter_Fox_Tami said: It sold horribly. How come every week in this thread there's someone who goes "I can't believe (insert show name) sold so much!" when it sells terribly? 3800 isnt terrible. It is if has a big event ticket drop, which looks like something bakamatsu might have, since it came out this week. SolviteSekai said: Aldnoah pulling in like 1.5k more than stalker said it would. IDC what the idiot hype masters said, 8k is really good sales. 50%+ above its stalker numbers is not 1.5k |
Progeusz said: SolviteSekai said: You don't even know what fanservice means. Female fans prefer different kind than males.hurr durr Dude, sports arent female fan service. Just because people on myanimelist CANT PLAY SPORTS doesnt mean only women like sports. You are aware that the NFL is one of the most lucrative businesses in existence right? Men like sports, you just arent men. |
phoenixalia said: SolviteSekai said: Implying that Kuroko is MAINLY bought and watched by fujoshi is fucking ignorant. Have you seen the amount of yaoi doujins Kuroko has? Have you seen the merchandise? Have you seen how any DVDs its sold(though now females buy BDs as well)? In terms of causal fans, I would say its fairly popular with males too. But its hardcore fanbase? The ones buying the BDs/DVDs, merchandise, CDs etc.? They're female. have you seen the amount of straight doujins shoujo manga has? |
phoenixalia said: SolviteSekai said: Implying that Kuroko is MAINLY bought and watched by fujoshi is fucking ignorant. Have you seen the amount of yaoi doujins Kuroko has? Have you seen the merchandise? Have you seen how any DVDs its sold(though now females buy BDs as well)? In terms of causal fans, I would say its fairly popular with males too. But its hardcore fanbase? The ones buying the BDs/DVDs, merchandise, CDs etc.? They're female. i've read about and seen pics of kuroko fan events too. mostly females attend them. however, it could be that kuroko might have a fanbase with an equal male to female ratio but that the female fans are the more vocal fans which makes it seem like kuroko is only good at being fujoshi bait which i don't think is a bad thing |
orchidorkSep 30, 2014 11:53 AM
rederoin said: SolviteSekai said: 3800 isnt terrible. It is if has a big event ticket drop, which looks like something bakamatsu might have, since it came out this week. SolviteSekai said: Aldnoah pulling in like 1.5k more than stalker said it would. IDC what the idiot hype masters said, 8k is really good sales. 50%+ above its stalker numbers is not 1.5k I meant just Blu Ray. Didnt your last estimate have it at 5.7k? |
RyanSaotome said: SolviteSekai said: Did you even watch haikyuu? No, I'm not into sweaty guys. Excuse you? The boys in Haikyuu barely even broke a sweat. |
parfaited said: RyanSaotome said: No, I'm not into sweaty guys. Excuse you? The boys in Haikyuu barely even broke a sweat. like i said, he clearly never saw the show. |
| One Piece has more female fans? really? that sounds unrealistic. |
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tsudecimo said: One Piece has more female fans? really? that sounds unrealistic. thats why he didnt link the source, and instead just showed the picture. |
phoenixalia said: SolviteSekai said: have you seen the amount of straight doujins shoujo manga has? Your point? Females can enjoy both shoujo manga and shounen manga which have a lot of pretty boys and shipping material. One can be a female otaku and a fujoshi at the same time. And example of Kuroko's fujoshi fan service. |
SolviteWoTaberuSep 30, 2014 11:58 AM
phoenixalia said: SolviteSekai said: have you seen the amount of straight doujins shoujo manga has? Your point? Females can enjoy both shoujo manga and shounen manga which have a lot of pretty boys and shipping material. One can be a female otaku and a fujoshi at the same time. Yeah, but male otaku can't enjoy sports, because nerds on mal don't enjoy sports. Sports are for girls obviously. |
phoenixalia said: SolviteSekai said: thats why he didnt link the source, and instead just showed the picture. That picture is legit. It came from Shounen Jump itself, about a year and half ago. I saw it at that time. SolviteSekai said: And example of Kuroko's fujoshi fan service. I couldn't see the pic but if you're asking for stuff like boys blushing or making out, I don't have them. But the manga and anime DOES give a lot of importance to bonds between the male characters which is friendship. But, this is enough for fujoshi. This kind of friendship and the bonds and communication between the characters is enough. If you want more of an explanation, I suggest you read the first chapter of shoujo manga Watashi ga Motete Dousunda, in which a fujoshi is a protagonist, not to mention the manga is written by a BL mangaka. The pic is two girls kissing. Like I said, anyone who thinks Haikyuu is fujoshi bait never saw it. There is no male fan service in it. And as far as Nozaki-kun goes, anyone calling it a female oriented anime clearly only looked at the character designs. I bet most of you don't even know that the prince girl is a girl. And finally, theres a difference between saying fujoshi like Haikyuu, and saying it is MAINLY females purchasing it. You dont see the difference? |
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