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Jun 27, 2014 9:10 PM

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StefanHere said:
oh yeah and i completely forgot how Enel got up there i also think Robin as already been up to one as i read a theory awhile back that Dragons main base is on one of them
Enel and the Spacies. I also heard(idk if it's true) that in an interview with Oda he said there would be balloons in the last chapter.

That's a weird theory. I think I might have heard of that one, not so sure I agree with it though.
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I've heard about this "One Piece goes to space" theory before and, to be honest, I'm not sure how I would feel about that. I like Sci-fi stuff, but I don't know if that fits OP to me.
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I've read a stupid theory once where someone was speculating that Luffy was the final villain in one piece, but what if rhat actually happens? Ultimate plot twist.
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Jun 27, 2014 11:48 PM

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I've read a stupid theory once where someone was speculating that Luffy was the final villain in one piece, but what if rhat actually happens? Ultimate plot twist.


A lot, and I mean a lot, would have to happen for that to be the case.
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Jun 27, 2014 11:50 PM

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I've heard about this "One Piece goes to space" theory before and, to be honest, I'm not sure how I would feel about that. I like Sci-fi stuff, but I don't know if that fits OP to me.


itll all depend on how oda plays it out (assuming he actually does use the space idea)
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Celestrial2 said:
insan3Spectre said:
I've heard about this "One Piece goes to space" theory before and, to be honest, I'm not sure how I would feel about that. I like Sci-fi stuff, but I don't know if that fits OP to me.


itll all depend on how oda plays it out (assuming he actually does use the space idea)


That would be stupid honestly.
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Celestrial2 said:
insan3Spectre said:
I've heard about this "One Piece goes to space" theory before and, to be honest, I'm not sure how I would feel about that. I like Sci-fi stuff, but I don't know if that fits OP to me.


itll all depend on how oda plays it out (assuming he actually does use the space idea)


Yeah, I'm not going to call it crap or something like that before it's even done. It would take me a while to get used to the idea, though.
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Jun 28, 2014 5:09 AM

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There is a strange phenomenon in shonen, it's when things get so bad, truly bad, that people majorly start to admit they hate them, and after a while, a few devout fans or people who'd forgotten how bad they were start promoting the idea of "unwarranted hate" to defend the bad thing. Fishman Island is an example. Sakura and Sasuke are others, to make the picture clearer.

This thing needs to have its own term. So I don't have to repeat myself.
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Jun 28, 2014 5:21 AM

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FI gets unwarranted hate and I'll stick to it. It be the weakest arc of the whole manga, but far from the cancer on pages the fanbase makes it out to be.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Jun 28, 2014 5:26 AM

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I think I have three tl:dr posts here about why it's cancer, and many others posted their reasons, but people keep (not necessarily you since I never see you post here before) circling around them using the unwarranted hate buzzword, and the "it had racism so it must be deep" card.
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Jun 28, 2014 5:27 AM

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I doubt Fishman Island can be any worse than the Davy Back Fight
Jun 28, 2014 5:30 AM

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I doubt Fishman Island can be any worse than the Davy Back Fight


In terms of quality it's not as terrible, but that's 50 chapters, so it's worse in that it's got larger quantity
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I hate how every arc in One Piece has a "happily ever after" sort of ending...Oda is such a pussy,that guy has no balls to kill off someone or make a dramatic ending from time to time
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Ahem.... one of the reasons why

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insan3Spectre said:
Ahem.... one of the reasons why

Jun 28, 2014 6:21 AM

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kikohunter said:
I've read a stupid theory once where someone was speculating that Luffy was the final villain in one piece, but what if rhat actually happens? Ultimate plot twist.


I heard even worse theory like: Gold Roger is actually Luffy who went to the past in order to inspire his future self to go on an adventure and find the One Piece.
Jun 28, 2014 6:22 AM
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Jun 28, 2014 6:32 AM

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I hate how every arc in One Piece has a "happily ever after" sort of ending...Oda is such a pussy,that guy has no balls to kill off someone or make a dramatic ending from time to time



so.....all the deaths in flashbacks suddenly don't count? And what counts as a "happily ever after" ending? Partying and celebration?
Jun 28, 2014 6:33 AM

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JD2411 said:
insan3Spectre said:
Ahem.... one of the reasons why



That's just speculation from fans. The reason why Oda brought him back still boggles my mind. It seemed that everyone in Alabasta had accepted his death, he hasn't done anything worthwhile since he came back and the SH are not even aware he's alive, so well, I don't see any reason why Oda felt it was necessary to bring him back.
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SetsukoHara said:
JD2411 said:


That's just speculation from fans. The reason why Oda brought him back still boggles my mind. It seemed that everyone in Alabasta had accepted his death, he hasn't done anything worthwhile since he came back and the SH are not even aware he's alive, so well, I don't see any reason why Oda felt it was necessary to bring him back.
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Kaimon said:


so.....all the deaths in flashbacks suddenly don't count? And what counts as a "happily ever after" ending? Partying and celebration?




What deaths? Silly you,no one dies in One Piece.Everyone returns sooner or later.

SetsukoHara said:

The reason why Oda brought him back still boggles my mind. It seemed that everyone in Alabasta had accepted his death, he hasn't done anything worthwhile since he came back and the SH are not even aware he's alive, so well, I don't see any reason why Oda felt it was necessary to bring him back.


Oda is a coward.
Jun 28, 2014 6:46 AM

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SetsukoHara said:
kikohunter said:
I've read a stupid theory once where someone was speculating that Luffy was the final villain in one piece, but what if rhat actually happens? Ultimate plot twist.


I heard even worse theory like: Gold Roger is actually Luffy who went to the past in order to inspire his future self to go on an adventure and find the One Piece.

Why is it worse though? he does look like Luffy. I think it would be an interesting twist.


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so.....all the deaths in flashbacks suddenly don't count? And what counts as a "happily ever after" ending? Partying and celebration?

Scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Jun 28, 2014 7:10 AM

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tsudecimo said:
SetsukoHara said:


I heard even worse theory like: Gold Roger is actually Luffy who went to the past in order to inspire his future self to go on an adventure and find the One Piece.

Why is it worse though? he does look like Luffy. I think it would be an interesting twist.


Too far-fetched and too strange. "Going on an adventure to inspire your future self to go on an adventure" sounds really bad to me.
Jun 28, 2014 7:16 AM

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Like everything else, it depends upon the execution imo.
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Jun 28, 2014 7:59 AM

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insan3Spectre said:
Like everything else, it depends upon the execution imo.


and one piece is probably the least likely to accomplish that, given its long record of playing safe and never going in different directions.
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Jun 28, 2014 8:02 AM

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judals said:
insan3Spectre said:
Like everything else, it depends upon the execution imo.


and one piece is probably the least likely to accomplish that, given its long record of playing safe and never going in different directions.


Again, there are two arcs that counteract that point. Though, don't get me wrong, I wish Oda was more willing to kill.

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Jun 28, 2014 8:05 AM
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wolowizard said:
insan3Spectre said:





^yep......sabaody definetly is'nt dead
Jun 28, 2014 8:07 AM

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insan3Spectre said:
judals said:


and one piece is probably the least likely to accomplish that, given its long record of playing safe and never going in different directions.


Again, there are two arcs that counteract that point. Though, don't get me wrong, I wish Oda was more willing to kill.



I wasn't talking about the killing but even then we all know that certain arc was meant to go that way because that's where the good guys were supposed to lose.


One thing for certain: That death certainly didn't save the tension of the series, the ship has sailed. I still question every death-stake and go through fights underwhelmed. I don't even try to sarcastically pretend to guess the outcome anymore.
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Jun 28, 2014 8:14 AM

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kikohunter said:
I've read a stupid theory once where someone was speculating that Luffy was the final villain in one piece, but what if rhat actually happens? Ultimate plot twist.
I thought of that one but it really wasn't the final villain. Just that in the end he's bad and Oda has been grooming one of those all good people(Coby) and it would be interesting for Coby to be the hero in the end. And with how he gathers his nakama and other things like that, it's similar to some villains.

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insan3Spectre said:
I've heard about this "One Piece goes to space" theory before and, to be honest, I'm not sure how I would feel about that. I like Sci-fi stuff, but I don't know if that fits OP to me.


itll all depend on how oda plays it out (assuming he actually does use the space idea)
I think he's always had the idea. Things have been in the story, it's basically impossible for it not to play at least a small role in the story.
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judals said:
insan3Spectre said:


Again, there are two arcs that counteract that point. Though, don't get me wrong, I wish Oda was more willing to kill.



I wasn't talking about the killing but even then we all know that certain arc was meant to go that way because that's where the good guys were supposed to lose.


One thing for certain: That death certainly didn't save the tension of the series, the ship has sailed. I still question every death-stake and go through fights underwhelmed. I don't even try to sarcastically pretend to guess the outcome anymore.


^yep,cuz everyone knew
Jun 28, 2014 8:16 AM

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I for one, knew.
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Jun 28, 2014 8:18 AM

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I actually did, as I was spoiled about it. Maybe one of the reasons why Marineford was kind of underwhelming for me.

@ judals

Yeah, I kind of agree. It certainly takes some of the tension out for me, though I still like the series.
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Jun 28, 2014 8:20 AM
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judals said:
I for one, knew.

well,hooray for you
Jun 28, 2014 8:23 AM
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Cyber_Bluez said:
judals said:
I for one, knew.

well,hooray for you

judals rule of thumb "as long as it's one piece,it sucks"
Jun 28, 2014 8:24 AM

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I actually did, as I was spoiled about it. Maybe one of the reasons why Marineford was kind of underwhelming for me.

@ judals

Yeah, I kind of agree. It certainly takes some of the tension out for me, though I still like the series.


I still like certain parts of it.
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wolowizard said:
Kaimon said:


so.....all the deaths in flashbacks suddenly don't count? And what counts as a "happily ever after" ending? Partying and celebration?




What deaths? Silly you,no one dies in One Piece.Everyone returns sooner or later.

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The reason why Oda brought him back still boggles my mind. It seemed that everyone in Alabasta had accepted his death, he hasn't done anything worthwhile since he came back and the SH are not even aware he's alive, so well, I don't see any reason why Oda felt it was necessary to bring him back.


Oda is a coward.


i mean i know people don't die every minute, but there are still deaths definitely. Obviously that can't kill off members in the crew and i would honestly hate if they did. it wouldn't be one piece without any of them.
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Any of y'all remember Captain Kuro? Pretty sure he's the only canon OP villain who hasn't been revisited in the manga or any cover story.
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It would definitely be a better one piece without Sanji, Ussop, Zoro, Brook, and new Nami.
He doesn't have to kill them off just keeping them trapped on their timeskip islands would have been great.
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judals said:
It would definitely be a better one piece without Sanji, Ussop, Zoro, Brook, and new Nami.
He doesn't have to kill them off just keeping them trapped on their timeskip islands would have been great.


are you kidding? I don't even understand this post
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They would be in deep shit without a Nami on board tho.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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judals said:
It would definitely be a better one piece without Sanji, Ussop, Zoro, Brook, and new Nami.
He doesn't have to kill them off just keeping them trapped on their timeskip islands would have been great.


No....I definitely can't agree with this. These are actually some of my favorite characters in the series. Well, except for maybe Brook.

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Any of y'all remember Captain Kuro? Pretty sure he's the only canon OP villain who hasn't been revisited in the manga or any cover story.


Has Krieg? I haven't read much of the manga so I'm not sure if he is in any cover stories.
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They would be in deep shit without a Nami on board tho.
No they'd be in deep shit if a nami was on board but not if Nami was on board.

nami = wave
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Nami went from useful navigator to having these stupid weather-style power-ups.
Not to mention that getting to Sabaody post timeskip is as easy as hitch-hiking a ride.
After half a one-piece's worth of adventuring (yes that's a measure of length now), it sure looks pointless now.

Sanji's just horrible, that bug joke managed to keep him likable for a few arcs but now he's just annoying.

my two cents.
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insan3Spectre said:
judals said:
It would definitely be a better one piece without Sanji, Ussop, Zoro, Brook, and new Nami.
He doesn't have to kill them off just keeping them trapped on their timeskip islands would have been great.


No....I definitely can't agree with this. These are actually some of my favorite characters in the series.

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Any of y'all remember Captain Kuro? Pretty sure he's the only canon OP villain who hasn't been revisited in the manga or any cover story.


Has Krieg? I haven't read much of the manga so I'm not sure if he is in any cover stories.


Not sure about Krieg, totally forgot that dude.
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He does appear in a cover.
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Nami went from useful navigator to having these stupid weather-style power-ups.


she's still a useful navigator tho
only now she doesn't have to run away from fights and has a sexy breast band
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They would be in deep shit without a Nami on board tho.
No they'd be in deep shit if a nami(wave) was on board but not if Nami was on board.

Would have been funnier if you didn't explain it, lol.
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No they'd be in deep shit if a nami(wave) was on board but not if Nami was on board.

Would have been funnier if you didn't explain it, lol.
I thought it would be a hard to get joke. I should have explained it in white text.
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IntroverTurtle said:
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They would be in deep shit without a Nami on board tho.
No they'd be in deep shit if a nami(wave) was on board but not if Nami was on board.
I c wut u did thar didn't need to explain it tho, i understand a tiny bit of japanese
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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No they'd be in deep shit if a nami(wave) was on board but not if Nami was on board.
I c wut u did thar didn't need to explain it tho
I fixed it, I fixed it. You guys win.
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