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Feb 11, 2015 3:08 PM

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mrdavidwright2 said:
If you KNOW from experience that true happiness comes from the understanding and practice of love as an anti-sexual feeling, then you definetely want your partner to experience the same thing. I'm in love with a special someone. The worst thing I can imagine doing to her, if I was lucky enough to be with her, was to encourage her to have sex. I don't want to see her that way. I don't want to imagine my dirty penis penetrading her... I want her to follow my path, so we can live happily together, and achieve true innocent love together.


Sounds quite selfish to me. The way I see things if you truly loved her then her happiness would be the main priority. Not whether it's attained through your set methods. How can you know what's best for another human being when you aren't them? Regardless good luck with all that jazz.
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Come on... we all know that it hurts inside us seeing a loved one being happy with someone else. We all have a bit of selfishness in us. It's not a bad thing. Go have sex with your dog. You love your dog right? What if it likes to be fucked? Go ahead...
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mrdavidwright2 said:
If you KNOW from experience that true happiness comes from the understanding and practice of love as an anti-sexual feeling, then you definetely want your partner to experience the same thing. I'm in love with a special someone. The worst thing I can imagine doing to her, if I was lucky enough to be with her, was to encourage her to have sex. I don't want to see her that way. I don't want to imagine my dirty penis penetrading her... I want her to follow my path, so we can live happily together, and achieve true innocent love together.

shiratori99 said:
Sex is just a primitive mating ritual that has nothing to do with love. This unabashed, outright romanticization of sex is simply disgusting. Yes, disgusting. People like you that confuse the highest emotion a human being can experience with the mechanical act of thrusting one's dirty penis into some orifice make me puke. Now go crouch back into your corner please and leave my pure soul alone with your filth.


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sex isn't a big deal

yes, sex and lust aren't the same as love
you can have sex without love
you can have love without sex
but you can definitely have sex with love, too

what i read from your mention of the 'dirty penis' makes me think you guys just have inferiority complexes, or you're not viewing your loves as real people, just ideas and ideals
if you're not just having sex for the sake of sex, it's not quite 'mechanical'... it can't be if you love them or lust for them... it's passionate, and should bring the two of you closer together in mutual pleasure

"It's the opposite of love in the category of attraction. The more sexual attraction you feel, the less love you feel. The more love you feel, the less sexual attraction you feel"
..is actually quite insulting
maybe some day will come along where some poor girl falls for you, promptly lusts for you, and then you get mad because you think she can't do that at the same time as like you for who you are

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Involtus said:
mrdavidwright2 said:
If you KNOW from experience that true happiness comes from the understanding and practice of love as an anti-sexual feeling, then you definetely want your partner to experience the same thing. I'm in love with a special someone. The worst thing I can imagine doing to her, if I was lucky enough to be with her, was to encourage her to have sex. I don't want to see her that way. I don't want to imagine my dirty penis penetrading her... I want her to follow my path, so we can live happily together, and achieve true innocent love together.



^That


sex isn't a big deal

yes, sex and lust aren't the same as love
you can have sex without love
you can have love without sex
but you can definitely have sex with love, too This "love" you are referring to is called lust.


if you're not just having sex for the sake of sex, it's not quite 'mechanical'... it can't be if you love them or lust for them... it's passionate, and should bring the two of you closer together in mutual pleasure

Wow... you call this an act of love?
http://kvalitet.weebly.com/uploads/3/2/2/3/32236821/8564712.png?370
http://kvalitet.weebly.com/uploads/3/2/2/3/32236821/8564712.png?370
http://kvalitet.weebly.com/uploads/3/2/2/3/32236821/761362848.jpg?273
I'm speechless...

Don't you see the obvious contrast from the pictures above, to these?
http://kvalitet.weebly.com/uploads/3/2/2/3/32236821/8240863.jpg?281
http://kvalitet.weebly.com/uploads/3/2/2/3/32236821/317203423.jpg?469
http://kvalitet.weebly.com/uploads/3/2/2/3/32236821/116354126.jpg?565
http://kvalitet.weebly.com/uploads/3/2/2/3/32236821/726823087.jpg?556

This is a terrible society. I don't need to explain more. Pictures say more than a thousand words. I mean. LOOK at the themed difference!



maybe some day will come along where some poor girl falls for you, promptly lusts for you, and then you get mad because you think she can't do that at the same time as like you for who you are


Then she will find out what love is all about, by being with me. It's not like she's going to be all like: Oh no, this guy does not want to stick his penis inside of me, because he does not see it as an act of love! Then I can't be with him. That would be really silly...


Lost_Future: You make it sound like I'm some brainwashed religious type of person. Dude... Innocence does not take away your freedom like that. You don't have to come from some amish and odd-cultural cult, to simply be a nice and peaceful person, with the awareness that sex is not an act of love-making.
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Soren333 said:
Are there any hopeless romantics here?

Any that gets giddy over cheesy, romantic things?

Any that gets emotional over rom com films?

If you do, then how do you see sex?

Is it just another way for pleasure?

Or when you find someone that you love, and you have sex with them, it becomes passionate love making?

Has anyone here ever passionately made love?

If you have, what was the difference from the normal sex?


Yes

Yes

No

As either a way to give and receive pleasure or if you're in love, and expression of that love by giving and receiving pleasure .

Yes

Yes

Probably but not me.

I haven't
Feb 11, 2015 3:40 PM
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Involtus said:


sex isn't a big deal

yes, sex and lust aren't the same as love
you can have sex without love
you can have love without sex
but you can definitely have sex with love, too

what i read from your mention of the 'dirty penis' makes me think you guys just have inferiority complexes, or you're not viewing your loves as real people, just ideas and ideals
if you're not just having sex for the sake of sex, it's not quite 'mechanical'... it can't be if you love them or lust for them... it's passionate, and should bring the two of you closer together in mutual pleasure

"It's the opposite of love in the category of attraction. The more sexual attraction you feel, the less love you feel. The more love you feel, the less sexual attraction you feel"
..is actually quite insulting
maybe some day will come along where some poor girl falls for you, promptly lusts for you, and then you get mad because you think she can't do that at the same time as like you for who you are


It's rare to read such a great post


Feb 11, 2015 3:43 PM
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The feeling most of you describe as love, is actually lust. Enough said...
Feb 11, 2015 4:01 PM

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One of the best things about the Internet for me is that you can observe tons of people who have just the most peculiar mindsets. That's something you rarely get to experience in real life.
For what it's worth, I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't consider physical intimacy as an integral part of a healthy relationship or see sex as something that's completely incompatible with love. Still I'm sure there are people out there that share the same views so good luck in your quest for this pure, innocent love.
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mrdavidwright2 said:
The feeling most of you describe as love, is actually lust. Enough said...


you're (a troll pretending to be) an emotional baby who is incapable of keeping more than one feeling in his heart at any given moment, watches too much pornography and believes it's an accurate representation of adult love, and idolises the concept of innocence rather than real people, which is probably how pedophiles are created

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Feb 11, 2015 4:02 PM

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Halicone said:
One of the best things about the Internet for me is that you can observe tons of people who have just the most peculiar mindsets. That's something you rarely get to experience in real life.
For what it's worth, I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't consider physical intimacy as an integral part of a healthy relationship or see sex as something that's completely incompatible with love. Still I'm sure there are people out there that share the same views so good luck in your quest for this pure, innocent love.


it's dangerous to fine society

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involtus' icon is still so distracting i forgot what i was going to write so...
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Some things go well together. Other things does not. Combining this:






with this




is one big fucking shame. And that's what you do, when you combine love with sex. If pornography is not a demonstration of sex, then I don't know what it is... But I have no tolerance for people believing that sex is oh so different from pornography... Oh yeah? Well how? You can't know if the two people from the pornography was actually in love, and did it whole-heartly. You can't know if what the two people from the porn you are watching feel the same as what you would describe as "love-making". You can't know that. How about moving the fuck on, and get that boring porny thing that people worship, known as "sex" out of your mind, and start LOVING instead? Sex is a porny thing. Porn is a complete remake of what sex looks like. The pictures aren't lying. Congratulations on ruining this:




with this






I'm stubborn because I have a great and innocent heart. Yes, I am sensitive. I want to see the world around me as a nice and relieable place. It's hard when people are so porny.
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mrdavidwright2 said:
If pornography is not a demonstration of sex, then I don't know what it is...


you're saying things no one else said and having arguments with yourself whilst ignoring the point

and posting pictures of random strangers in good lighting as though that's all that love means ?

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Feb 11, 2015 4:27 PM

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mrdavidwright2 said:
If pornography is not a demonstration of sex, then I don't know what it is... But I have no tolerance for people believing that sex is oh so different from pornography...


It's a product to be marketed and sold for profit. Very similar to the DVDs you buy of other films. It may be a demonstration of sex, however it isn't the absolute only way to. It's quite different based on who you compare it to. Whether or not the two in the video love each other or not they're still actors. Which is a profession in which they get paid for what they do. It's a job regardless of whether there is love involved. Sex without love and only performed because it's a profession would be different than sex with love no?
Feb 11, 2015 4:30 PM
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Involtus said:
mrdavidwright2 said:
If pornography is not a demonstration of sex, then I don't know what it is...


you're saying things no one else said and having arguments with yourself whilst ignoring the point

and posting pictures of random strangers in good lighting as though that's all that love means ?


It's supposed to symbolize an abstract feeling, which is hard to describe precisely with words. The purpose is, that once you open the sex-pictures, and then afterwards open the pictures of a beautiful woman, you're supposed to feel kind of the opposite thing. A way to demonstrate the obvious contrast between the two things, and how FUCKING incorrect it is, to say that sex relate to love...
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it feels really nice. then there's talking and cuddling afterwards, and the fun clean up.
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mrdavidwright2 said:
Involtus said:


you're saying things no one else said and having arguments with yourself whilst ignoring the point

and posting pictures of random strangers in good lighting as though that's all that love means ?


It's supposed to symbolize an abstract feeling, which is hard to describe precisely with words. The purpose is, that once you open the sex-pictures, and then afterwards open the pictures of a beautiful woman, you're supposed to feel kind of the opposite thing. A way to demonstrate the obvious contrast between the two things, and how FUCKING incorrect it is, to say that sex relate to love...


I don't feel love for complete strangers, because I'm not a complete creep.
I don't feel anything for the porn actors either.

Being in love isn't the same as looking at a picture of a pretty woman. If you're actually in love: their appearance matters a lot less than that and the person matters a lot more. I think what you're feeling is lust.
And when you're in love, sex isn't he same as a porn movie, or a hooker. Your bonds matter. So, you know, that alone shows you that sex and love work together in some meaningful way.

I just don't think you've ever been in love.
or you were, then your love went off and had sex with someone else, and you couldn't get the picture out of your head so you tried to come up with some way to cancel the idea in your brain that she could ever actually feel something for the person she's with, rather than admit you lost her

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The appearance of those pictures are supposed to symbolize one's love for their loved one. I'm not saying that appearence is what you only care for when you in love. If so, then it's lust. I've been in love. It feels like they are yours. You care for them and their personality. Don't worry. I've been in love. Undoubtly.

But when you're in love, the last thing you feel like doing with this, is sex. Or that's at least how I felt it. I'm not in doubt, that if that particular kind of attraction is going to lead to sex, then you would have to feel something VERY different from what I felt.

What you guys are thinking of as love, must be an extremely different feeling, from what I am thinking of as love.

Okay, so what do we know?

We have a feeling that is anti-sexual. The more you feel it, the less you care about sex. We call it feeling number 1

Then we have another feeling that is non-sexual, that however can lead to sex, and become bigger and more meaningful, if combined with sex. We call it feeling number 2

These are the two things we are standing with, and there is no doubt that these two things are very different from eachother.

Yes, I've felt that other feeling as well... But for fucks sake, feeling number two is NOTHING compared to feeling number one. I've tried being non-sexually attracted to someone, and I've tried being anti-sexually attracted to someone. The non-sexual attraction, that you guys call love, is a thing that I can feel towards almost anybody. But it becomes anti-sexual as soon as I get more into it. I mean... I just can't get this to make sense. There is no such thing as that other feeling... Okay there is. I just can't believe that feeling number one isn't a lot more common, as it seems SO much more meaningful to me.

I'm convinced that the most appropriate word to link with feeling number one is love, and the most appropriate word to link with feeling number two, could be passion, attraction, or lust

Feeling number one is not easy to feel, so I'm not surprised that so little of you recognize it. It takes deep concentration, and awareness to discover the beauty of anti-sexual love.

Don't say that I don't know what love is, if you haven't felt feeling number one before. I can say what I say, because I know what that other feeling feels like as well. I can clearly see the difference.
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it's called having a mother

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Feb 11, 2015 5:29 PM

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I seriously don't like calling sex 'making love'. I think it is an unnecessary word for the union of two bodies. Even if it's made with deep love in between. But that's just me.

I'm not too much of a romantic, I always avoid the 'lovey-dovey' stuff. I need to be really really crazy in love, like, head over heels with someone to fall into that kind of interactions, and even so. I have better ways to show my partner that I love him.


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romantic or go home

just sex no feelings is so much worse
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I prefer for it to be romantic and passionate, I don't rly care for meaningless sex.
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it can go either way i think, passionate and lovey or more hardcore style
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incisorr said:
romantic or go home

just sex no feelings is so much worse

Wise words ^^
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Shiratori99 said:
Soren333 said:


Yes there are, but that doesn't mean that sex is meaningless.


It is meaningless unless you give it meaning yourself. If you declare that you'll only have sex with someone you love for example, sex gains a meaning. But that meaning is just one of a symbolic gesture, it has nothing to do with the sex act itself.
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Id like some passionate loving and just cuddle together after <3
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theres no point to do sex if its not romantic and passionate

you could just masturbate if you wanted to , its infinitely much more convenient

edit; seems like ive already posted in this thread

thats what happens when you dont bother reading the what is sure to be spam 10 pages and when are mal gonna get some thingy that shows you threads in which youve posted srsly
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Opinions and perspectives aside, procreation is a evolutionary process to pass on genetic sequences. Love and sex can be a healthy and rewarding experience. In the brain the experience can be reduced to the biochemical interactions of 3 chief chemicals; Dopamine, Serotonin & Oxytocin (referred to as the pleasure and bonding chemicals; they have sedative and stimulant properties).

Love's primary function is to act as an incentive to compel mammals to breed and stay together long enough to increase the chances of the offsprings survival.

Love as measured by neuroscience is more like a mental disorder than a transcendental union; MRI observation of people in "love" shows activation's of the same neural pathways as psychosis and obsessive compulsive behavior.
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For men it's important to have that physical connection through sex or you won't be able to bond with your partner very deeply in most cases.
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For men it's important to have that physical connection through sex or you won't be able to bond with your partner very deeply in most cases.


Actually women need the physical connection for bonding, men show elevated levels of the varies sexual & bonding agents prior to intercourse and actually decrease after sex while females increases hence the increased preference over males to cuddle after.
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Whatever those biological explanations say... I've been in love. I've been close to a girl that meant a lot to me. I didn't feel the need or craving for sex. It worked this way: The more I felt her, the less I wanted to think about sex. Whatever it is, it was an anti-sexual feeling. And I KNOW it was love. And I will never accept the term "love-making", because it's just not correct to call it that.
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I haven't had sex and I don't plan on doing so given the problems it can cause

but sex is meaningless and unnecessary in a relationship.


No, JD. That is a bad way to approach your problems. Stop trying to convince your self sex is bad because you can't get any. What are you doing this summer? We're going to Germany and we're going to get you a whore
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Rather than sex itself, foreplay is kind of romantic.
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JD2411 said:
I haven't had sex and I don't plan on doing so given the problems it can cause

but sex is meaningless and unnecessary in a relationship.


No, JD. That is a bad way to approach your problems. Stop trying to convince your self sex is bad because you can't get any. What are you doing this summer? We're going to Germany and we're going to get you a whore


Mind if I come with. Could do with a holiday.
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