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bleachjoj said: jreginald said: Yeah okay, but some of these are just posts from manga readers explaining things to us so people won't go "hurr durr asspull", which in turn kind of turns into a spoiler. Haha I kind of agree with you but Palm does everything but outright say it. I'm surprised most anime only watchers don't reach the conclusion Palm was heading towards. Oh okay, she actually mentions it? Then nvm, it's not really a spoiler. (I haven't watched the episode but I clearly remember the scene when Palm talks about it so if I'm thinking the same thing then it should be sufficient enough to talk about radiation, etc.) |
| The exchange between Ikalgo & Welfin was beautiful and made their previous episode together so worth it -- character development at its finest. I also liked the conversation between Ikalgo & Palm regarding division amongst the Ants & loyalty to the King. Palm's explanation was so well done and reminds us that Pouf isn't just an "overly attached girlfriend". Reading the manga and watching the animation itself is so different. Mad House did a great job with this episode. I've hated Pouf for such a long time but the way they showed him at the end was just disheartening. He was so desperate to see Pitou, especially after seeing Youpi dead. And then they play the ED right as he stares at this bloodied hands. Heavy stuff. |
jreginaldJun 10, 2014 9:17 PM
ValeBreck said: And yeah, the one who said his name was Ikalgo, the voice is the same. http://i.imgur.com/AYlib0h.jpg Now there is something funny....Did Ikalgo has the dream to become a squid even when he was still a human??? XD XD "Don't call me human!!!" The insects really die by human cruelty. Well, no one care about it anyway. We just stomp it everyday. Palm so amazing. Even though she is so crazy. Her beauty - Serious - Crazy mode shift really hilarious. Amazing character. I still imagined her with knife all around her body even though she talk so serious in this episode. XD XD |
| Great episode. Netero's effort dint go wasted, in fact he did more than he thought he will. |
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| The King just got a nosebleed from perverted thoughts about Komugi. Anyway, it seems the ants are going to kick the bucket in an unconventional way. I was bemused by the fact that it didn't even cross Pouf's mind that Pitou could possibly lose. Also the way Komugi is being treated like an item to just be moved around at whomever's convenience. |
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| This picture is simply amazing. I just noticed the ants now, talk about parallelism. "We are no different from them." |
MShukyDeneuve said: ValeBreck said: And yeah, the one who said his name was Ikalgo, the voice is the same. http://i.imgur.com/AYlib0h.jpg Now there is something funny....Did Ikalgo has the dream to become a squid even when he was still a human??? XD XD "Don't call me human!!!" It's quite possible that Ikalgo has memories of his octopus past-life too... Just like how Leol has memories of when he was a tiger. |
kikohunter said: Good episode, this is story telling at its core. This is how it should be, convey a message with your story and make sure it makes its point accross the entirety of the story. Humans are cruel creatures that stand at the top of the world. That's what we are and this arc explains it in a very beautifull but also sad way. Do we care about the ants we crush? No. Do we care about the millions of other animals we kill in order to survive? No. So why should the protagonists care about the king and the ants? Palm explained it very well and I loved how they showed Youpi in his death. He looked exactly like an insect you kill without caring about it. Edit: Also, I guess this is why the ants will and are dying in such an anticlimactic way. They just die the way little insignificant ants should. Re-posting for the truth. I'm glad people are getting it. |
| Youpi's death felt extremely underwhelming :( Though I am really beginning to like Welfin as a character. I'm guessing that Meurem = Gyro. 4/5 |
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| what's with the nose bleed and blood coughing? I guess it got something to do with how Meruem will die soon... but how? man I'm desperately fighting my urge not to read the manga. |
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jreginald said: bleachjoj said: I kind of agree with you but Palm does everything but outright say it. I'm surprised most anime only watchers don't reach the conclusion Palm was heading towards. Oh okay, she actually mentions it? Then nvm, it's not really a spoiler. (I haven't watched the episode but I clearly remember the scene when Palm talks about it so if I'm thinking the same thing then it should be sufficient enough to talk about radiation, etc.) 1) most logical explanation given what we already know 2)No, palm doesn't actually mention the bomb at all, it's just that when she was saying the king will die in a very assured way, the backdrop was the death cloud from the bomb. That just gave it away for me, who has not read the manga. Like I, and so many people have said already before, this is basically the perfect end to this arc thematically. I don't think there could be a better way to end it. |
| We are finally reaching the final stages of this arc. Can't wait to see how they will close it. |
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| Nosebleed actually gives you death. Not erection! |
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| R.I.P in Youpi. Looks like the end for Meruem and Pouf is not too far ahead. |
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| Welp... they didn't animate Palm's awesome monologue. I hope and really really hope that they do as a finale. |
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| Seeing the chimera ants like this leaves me with a pretty empty feeling... |
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| Well, would you look at that... they are going to die from the radiation! I am very pleased with this twist. So Netero's sacrifice wasn't in vain after all. This episode pretty much sealed the fate of the Royal Guards and the King. It's game over; now it's just a matter of how exactly it unfolds, and what happens to Komugi after all this. I find it interesting that Togashi has essentially revealed to the audience that the main antagonists of the arc are going to die for sure, and soon. After what we see here, there is very little doubt about it. Youpi's already gone (R.I.P) and now only Pouf and the King are left, and both have blood leaking from their bodies this episode. Like its quiet beginning, this arc seems to be heading to a quiet ending as well. It's fascinating, really- for all intents and purposes it seems that Gon's "fight" with Neferpitou was the last. The battle's already won; now we just wait for the leftovers to die. The emptiness of the palace and the silence that enveloped it were very striking in this episode. The last Chimera Ants won't go out with a bang (although I suppose they technically did..) but with a whimper. It is a really unorthodox way to end the lives of the main "villains", but then this arc was unorthodox from the beginning. It's a bit ironic that the Ants are going to die like this, slowly and alone, from poisoning. Humans eliminated them like the pests they were. For all the power of the Ants, their growing humanity finished them...and when the humans in this arc act more inhuman than the Ants, did they ever stand a chance? That Gon's character arc came to a head in CA specifically is not a coincidence. This arc, despite its immensely varied design and multitude of characters, was in many ways built around what would happen to Gon. He was paralleled to the King repeatedly, and the merciless, cruel nature of what transpired ever since the rise of the Ants is what pushed him over the edge in the end. His character development fits in like a puzzle piece in the Chimera Ant arc, a crucial component that stands on its own but completes the bigger picture as well. It's really neat to see how Gyro keeps getting bought up again. It seems he'll be playing a bigger role in the future, and was just introduced here as a way of setting that up. Ikalgo and Welfin's growing bond continues to be a pleasure to watch. In fact, the most interesting thing here was really the interactions of the three Chimera Ants on the human side, Ikalgo, Welfin, and Palm. They, along with the King and his guards, show just how far the Chimera Ants have evolved, so that the difference between them and humans is nearly indistinguishable. It's Welfins humanity that convinced him to listen to Ikalgo and follow his orders (his frustration after discovering the link between him and Ikalgo is very telling; he's upset because he knows he's going to do what Ikalgo requested because he can't turn his back on his comrade). It's Ikalgo's humanity that makes him feel guilty about what he and Palm are doing to Komugi. Palm's little speech here basically serves to serve as a summary of sorts of the themes of the arc, fitting as it comes just as the arc comes to its conclusion. I kind of wish Palm wasn't t so explicit and blunt in her conversation with Ikalgo, but it serves its purpose and reaffirms the fact that all the themes and motifs that we've discussed throughout the arc were integrated into it intentionally by Togashi. In the end, the narrative's final stance seems to be that even though humanity is capable of many wonderful things, ultimately its capacity for evil eclipses it. We saw many humans at their best here (Knuckle, Shoot) but also many at their worst (Netero, Gon). It is essentially an exploration of human nature, using the Chimera Ants to draw a contrast between them and humanity. Is this arc still ending at episode 135. I think I've seen a few manga readers say that there are still seven chapters to go, which seems like a lot to adapt in only two episodes. I just hope it isn't rushed, and we that we get to savor this arc's final, quiet moments. |
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MrAM said: Is this arc still ending at episode 135. I think I've seen a few manga readers say that there are still seven chapters to go, which seems like a lot to adapt in only two episodes. I just hope it isn't rushed, and we that we get to savor this arc's final, quiet moments. haven't read the manga but i remember the source being reliable that it will end on 135 i even think that's one episode too many seeing as they are running out of characters and things to do |
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| I am honestly astounded when I see how many people legitimately do not get the cause of the noseblood or why the King and his guards will die soon.. I assume some of you guys could join the 500.00 humans at the palace entrance without problems... |
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Nidhoeggr said: I am honestly astounded when I see how many people legitimately do not get the cause of the noseblood or why the King and his guards will die soon.. I assume some of you guys could join the 500.00 humans at the palace entrance without problems... Hahaha, that's exactly what I was thinking after watching the episode. Granted, I read the manga but come on, there were clues everywhere. It showed the damn rose for crying out loud. Also, great post MrAM. |
StefanHere said: MrAM said: Is this arc still ending at episode 135. I think I've seen a few manga readers say that there are still seven chapters to go, which seems like a lot to adapt in only two episodes. I just hope it isn't rushed, and we that we get to savor this arc's final, quiet moments. haven't read the manga but i remember the source being reliable that it will end on 135 i even think that's one episode too many seeing as they are running out of characters and things to do It's confirmed that the next arc starts on 137. So we still have three episodes unless 136 is a clip show. |
bleachjoj said: StefanHere said: haven't read the manga but i remember the source being reliable that it will end on 135 i even think that's one episode too many seeing as they are running out of characters and things to do It's confirmed that the next arc starts on 137. So we still have three episodes unless 136 is a clip show. I'm sure episode 136 would be covering chapters 315-316... and i'm hoping they flesh out the rest of gyro's shit. |
| Wow, everyone is like "pouf is bleeding" So I take it most missed the part where the king himself bled? |
| I love how Togashi was all like "yeah this is not getting the conventional treatment of fights so here is a nuke. Then he was like, oh no, the king survived and is much stronger! Now it's bound to get dbz Then; j/k he's still dying of the radiation. It's a brilliant way, to have him still fall because of human malice... In a much more malicious way, while he still manages to try and finish his own arc and maybe even meet Komugi one last time. Why I think it's more evil is because they gave him life again only to be robbed of it shortly, aloh with others. This makes using the nuke on the palace all the more a bad decision. |
| You know this is a pretty unique way of ending the antagonists and this kind of stuff don't usually happen in shounen anime. Its always the main character who comes up and beats the bad guys often with some power ups. This will be a fitting end to an arc which had a slow start in my opinion but most of the character introduced in it fulfilled their roles quite well. So two more episode until this arc is over. |
nanny96 said: Guilek said: They only animated page 12 and the explosion in page 16,unfortunately...that was one of my favorite scene.Just this page or pages 12-13-14-15-16 ? This scene was so good. Yeah, me to. And I find it important because it really hammers home how cruel us humans can be. Hopefully it'll be used next episode or even in 135, though. I think it's too important not to be, really. |
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| Goodbye Youpi. Small size + radiation was his downfall with Welfin Will Gon and Killua Merumem and Pouf or will they die by the radiation left by Netero's bomb? It looked like Palm was gonna face the king but then again the radiation. So Time will kill Merumem and Pouf Is Gyro -> Merumem????? |
AnimeFan500 said: Is Gyro -> Merumem????? I hope Mad House animates the scenes they left out earlier so people would stop asking this question. No, Meruem is not Gyro's reincarnation. |
jreginald said: AnimeFan500 said: Is Gyro -> Merumem????? I hope Mad House animates the scenes they left out earlier so people would stop asking this question. No, Meruem is not Gyro's reincarnation. Well, next episode should erase any suspicions anyway. |
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| I feel sorry for pouf |
diivil said: in episode 79... welfin was this guy as referred to by the guy with thick eyebrows who we can assume is Ikalgo http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/MKM03/HxH%20CA/HunterXHunter-79480pmkv_snapshot_2124_20140611_173627.png I've been meaning to say this, but well done madhouse. I don't think that was in the manga, as pretty much everything showing Gyro's headquarters being taken out or even his soldiers being killed wasn't shown there. So, yeah, this was a great example of improving on the source material. Sure, it may seem small but it was still nice. |
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insan3Spectre said: diivil said: in episode 79... welfin was this guy as referred to by the guy with thick eyebrows who we can assume is Ikalgo http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/MKM03/HxH%20CA/HunterXHunter-79480pmkv_snapshot_2124_20140611_173627.png I've been meaning to say this, but well done madhouse. I don't think that was in the manga, as pretty much everything showing Gyro's headquarters being taken out or even his soldiers being killed wasn't shown there. So, yeah, this was a great example of improving on the source material. Sure, it may seem small but it was still nice. Hope they don't leave out the rest of Gyro though. >_> |
cantius said: iRels said: Insignificant opinions are everywhere. - So it seems like their strong, unyielding feelings will be their downfall... Most obvious with Gon... if only he had "let go". But...what was that? Pride? "To not let oneself accept one's own weakness..." Hunter X Hunter fanboys can't accept criticism. Insignificant users abound. What did you expect his reply would be? You don't look like you want a discussion in the first place as all your comments are just rhetorical complaints, and now that you're caught up, you seem to need attention by posting frequently the same thing. And not just for HxH. I smell bait. Cynicism is not criticism, for future reference. |
TonyTonyStark said: cantius said: Hunter X Hunter fanboys can't accept criticism. Insignificant users abound. What did you expect his reply would be? You don't look like you want a discussion in the first place as all your comments are just rhetorical complaints, and now that you're caught up, you seem to need attention by posting frequently the same thing. And not just for HxH. I smell bait. Cynicism is not criticism, for future reference. ^This |
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cantius said: This arc is overrated. Had its moments for sure but overall it's quite disappointing. Not worth its length. Yet another person who misuses the word overrated |
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TonyTonyStark said: cantius said: Hunter X Hunter fanboys can't accept criticism. Insignificant users abound. What did you expect his reply would be? You don't look like you want a discussion in the first place as all your comments are just rhetorical complaints, and now that you're caught up, you seem to need attention by posting frequently the same thing. And not just for HxH. I smell bait. Cynicism is not criticism, for future reference. Haha well put. But it's best to just ignore posts like that. |
| Pretty good ep for this boring arc. I'm glad it's over in 2 eps. Welfin takes the good side and kills Youpi nice, but annoying faggot Pouf is still alive. They closed Komugi in a chest without air lol. |
cantius said: TonyTonyStark said: What did you expect his reply would be? You don't look like you want a discussion in the first place as all your comments are just rhetorical complaints, and now that you're caught up, you seem to need attention by posting frequently the same thing. And not just for HxH. I smell bait. Cynicism is not criticism, for future reference. How am I being cynical? I did not like this arc nor Greed Island. I expected a reply such as his because he can't accept criticism for his beloved show. How are all my comments rhetorical complaints? I can't voice my dislike for this arc? What, are there some limitations on criticizing a show than praising it? I'm not trying to grab attention, but seeing as you think I am, you seem to be giving me quite the attention considering you're stalking my posts. I sense butthurt pain. Criticism is not cynicism, for future reference. To answer your questions altogether 1. And you're not building any clear criticism to be discussed in itself, so it ends up being criticized instead. 2. You weren't really criticizing the show alone, you also were criticizing other people's opinions "man this arc is overrated". Can't people voice their admiration of this arc? Don't know why you have to have special treatment. 3. Of course I'm giving you attention. It's not nice to ignore someone who wishes to have a mature, level-headed conversation , or is that not what you want? If I didn't know any better, I'd say you were expecting replies like the above , just so you could try to criticize the fan-base as well. Given the generalized opinion on the fanbase just from one reply. |
| Well if we're gonna use technicalities aside from implications, then his claim is technically correct. Your comment generates no discussion, aside from his reply a different reply would be "no, length is justified" and it'd be a back and forth, might as well agree to disagree before we even start posting. Unless you meant for it to be rhetorical, not expecting any replies at all, which makes little sense. Therefore, it held no value in contributing to this thread, can't say that's very significant. And I disagree, you seem to be trying to generalize an opinion of the fan-base of one person, which you ironically insulted in the process of asking for the mutual respect between you two. |
Danpmss said: TonyTonyStark said: What did you expect his reply would be? You don't look like you want a discussion in the first place as all your comments are just rhetorical complaints, and now that you're caught up, you seem to need attention by posting frequently the same thing. And not just for HxH. I smell bait. Cynicism is not criticism, for future reference. ^This |
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