eta101 said: Kaimon said: eta101 said: Okay. So, what should I watch from the Enlightening list? Just scroll through a try to find something that's to your liking? Are you looking for anything specific? I want something amazing and not a classic that was good for its time like Cowboy Bebop. I watched Cowboy Bebop until episode 17 and couldn't continue because it didn't hook me into it. For reference here is my current top five. 1. Steins;Gate 2. Death Note 3. Code Geass 4. Attack on Titan 5. Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood The comment about Bebop hurts me as well. I second mostly what sushi and Jody recc'd., especially Hunter x Hunter 2011, Baccano, Kaiji, Hajime no Ippo, Ghost in the Shell. Also, Angels is right in what he said about Bebop, its merits are far greater than just being a product of its time. In fact, I'd say Titan and S;G are actually like that :D |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| Having taken a look at the E-chart to refresh my memory, I guess for early entries to start with I'll recommend: -Baccano -Gankutsuou -Kaiji (while I don't love S1, S2 is incredible) -Hajime no Ippo -Jojo's Bizarre Adventure 2012 -Kaiba -Tatami Galaxy and if you're feeling a little more daring (these are deceptively great series despite seeming kind of goofy): -FLCL -Hokuto no Ken Then I'll give you some other personal favs once you've seen more and I can get a better grasp on your palette. |
| @eta101 I don't think age has much to do with liking Cowboy Bebop or not. As for your argument about the top 5 anime, with a possible exception of FMA:B, if you've seen a lot more anime, they are far more predictable than you may think, or if they aren't predictable they adopt more common tropes and cliche's typical of the anime medium. >claiming their first anime that they watch is their favourite Well, if they liked the show and it is the only part of the anime medium that they are familiar with than of course it would be their favourite. Also, about your comments on Dragon Ball Z, I will note that it is not bad, but in comparison to the original Dragon Ball, I can see why the people familiar with both would pick the original version. |
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| The first anime I was ever invested in was Digimon Tamers, but that's not my favorite anime (I will admit that it's very close, though). But I still like Cowboy Bebop more than Digimon Tamers, despite having no nostalgia for it. I take no offense when somebody doesn't like Cowboy Bebop, but I wouldn't go making assumptions as to the reasons why other people like it. I'm sure there are plenty of people who love it because it was the first anime they ever watched, but I'd wager the number of people who love it for different reasons isn't much lower. |
| @mugi: I would say he should go for Gurren Lagann after Eva due to the recon nature of TTGL and all that, and with that said, Eva may be a little too bleak and odd for someone to get into early on, so perhaps a bit later (granted, I saw it when I was 13), but that's just my two cents. @eta: Back to Bebop, I'm 19 and I only saw Bebop back when I was like 14 and bought the DVD set having never seen it on TV (I live in Canada, our late night anime programming never had Bebop) so I don't have any nostalgia bias for it, and like yourself, I didn't love it as much as it was heralded about all over, but it's writing has strengths again, and it certainly isn't loved purely through nostalgia and, by extension, exclusive to a generation's mindset (it should go without saying that you can't generalize a wide notion to be a consensus, there were probably people who didn't like Bebop back when it was airing on AS). |
| Everyone already said everything I might've suggested except FMA 03 I don't expect you to like it as much as Brotherhood, but it does some things well, has a great atmosphere, and is considered by many to be a classic. Plus it has some things that were in the early manga but not in Brotherhood due to them rushing the first 13-ish episodes. The animation is also pretty good considering when it came out. Soul Eater too, maybe? It's a pretty good gateway shonen with a memorable cast and entertaining arcs, the manga is even better, weak ending aside. |
Kaimon said: Everyone already said everything I might've suggested except FMA 03 Yeah I'll second that as well, if you haven't seen 2003, do that. I'm in the 2003>B camp myself, it's quite good. |
eta101 said: So what anime should I watch? With your short list, just watch anything. Also, try to expand your horizons. I see most of your list comprises of shounen titles. I have nothing against that (in fact, I had a phase of nothing but shounen) but that's a hole you'd want to get out of. For your taste, I recommend Baccano, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, Katanagatari, and FLCL. Once you think you're ready to expand genres, try out Mononoke (horror), Serial Experiment Lain (cyber-punk/psychological), Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita (black comedy), Aria the Animation (slice of life), and Honey & Clover (romance). |
AngelsArcanum said: Kaimon said: Everyone already said everything I might've suggested except FMA 03 Yeah I'll second that as well, if you haven't seen 2003, do that. I'm in the 2003>B camp myself, it's quite good. I liked the idea behind the homunculi a lot and I prefer 03's atmosphere, I just like Brotherhood more in every other regard. But Shamballa is still pretty ass Though after re-watching it (On Netflix, due to being too lazy to take Disgaea out of my PS3 to put in the DVDs) I like it more than I did a year or so ago, I didn't even mind the filler episodes in the first half. I'm kinda indifferent towards the final 1/4 but it's still a solid 8/10 for me. Also +1 for Katanagatari. I'm liking it way more than I expected to and it'll probably be my favorite Nisio Isin work by the time I'm done with it. |
| Recommend something for me please. I put everything that sounds remotely interesting on my PTW list so its rather long and uselss right now. Something that comedy in it would be nice. (Not necessarily as the main thing) Also something rather short and sweet would be nice. Another thing I like is something with good atmospheric music. Not necessarily anime about music but Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo...you get my point. Open to anything else also. |
Strangeluv said: Recommend something for me please. I put everything that sounds remotely interesting on my PTW list so its rather long and uselss right now. Something that comedy in it would be nice. (Not necessarily as the main thing) Also something rather short and sweet would be nice. Another thing I like is something with good atmospheric music. Not necessarily anime about music but Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo...you get my point. Open to anything else also. You don't want No Game No Life, Nagi no Asukara and Colorful for starters, but for good atmospheric music (or general "atmosphere") I guess Bartender would be up your alley as something generally soothing. Boogiepop Phantom gets overindulgent visually, but the music certainly creates a genuine sense of tension. FLCL's slightly angsty indie music by The Pillows really contributes to the theme of the show. Gankutsuou has a lot of classical music (obviously since it's based on a classic novel) which is really quite great and contributes to that rather inherent and iconic sense of tragic grandeur and woe in those works. Honey and Clover has a very fitting coming of age and somewhat melancholic soundtrack I suppose. Hajime no Ippo's soundtrack by the legendary Tsuneo Imahori will always leave you breathless - whether it is a combination of the actual boxing and the music or both elements on their own, you will be staggered. Hunter X Hunter 1999 has a very nostalgic soundtrack that feels like a real adventure with the surplus of wind instruments and soothing pieces, but when the nitty gritty content comes, the music adds a lot of gravitas and tension with heavier pieces. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure 2012 because Jojo and Taku Iwasaki; 'nuff said. Kaiba, while being a visual splendour of surrealism, has a very quirky yet sorrowful soundtrack of hollow pieces with very slow but loose notes. Beast Player Erin has a lot of high fantasy folk-y songs that fit well with the aesthetics. Kure-nai has a lot of tender piano songs of warmth and richness with a hint of bittersweet to perfectly hone the story as this gripping tale of family, tradition and life all conflicting. RahXephon's OST goes hand in hand with the captivating grandiosity of the aesthetics and all around stellar production values and story (which I find to be fairly good, but there's widespread variety of opinion there). As for comedy, Azazel-san is absolutely hilarious and clever potty humour, The Legend of Koizumi is hilarious absurdity and bombast, Gintama takes some time to pick up, but once it does it delivers with all sorts of brands of humour and if you're daring, the first 3 episodes of Mad Bull 34 are great filthy comedy that's too ridiculous to take to heart. So yeah, give those a shot. kitkatxz said: mavrosheep said: I have joined the club to observe your powers on observation, come and enlighten me on my list! Dude your list is so hard for me x.x... Agreed. "Evangelion: 10/10, Hunter X Hunter 1999: 10/10..." Awesome! "5 Centimeters per second: 10/10, Shin Sekai Yori: 10/10." Hmm... I'll say: Rurouni Kenshin: Trust and Betrayal, Casshern Sins, RahXephon, Samurai Champloo, Kino's Journey, Kure-nai, Lain, Cowboy Bebop, Only Yesterday, Noein, Hanbun no Tsuki, Bartender, Beast Player Erin and Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 plus I'll throw in Jojo 2012 for good measure and suggest you continue on with Hunter X Hunter in the 2011 adaptation starting at Greed Island (episode 59). Ones I'm so-so on but you may enjoy: To Terra (TV series), Giant Robo and Ginga Nagareboshi Gin. Enjoy! |
AngelsArcanumJun 1, 2014 11:04 AM
| I fear I've run out of cool and stylish episodic/western anime to watch. Anything similar to Bebop/Champloo/Michiko/Baccano/Mushishi/Lupin that I still need to check out? |
Kaimon said: I fear I've run out of cool and stylish episodic/western anime to watch. Anything similar to Bebop/Champloo/Michiko/Baccano/Mushishi/Lupin that I still need to check out? Trigun? |
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Litrydow said: Kaimon said: I fear I've run out of cool and stylish episodic/western anime to watch. Anything similar to Bebop/Champloo/Michiko/Baccano/Mushishi/Lupin that I still need to check out? Trigun? Already seen it (plus the movie) and Outlaw Star. |
Kaimon said: Litrydow said: Kaimon said: I fear I've run out of cool and stylish episodic/western anime to watch. Anything similar to Bebop/Champloo/Michiko/Baccano/Mushishi/Lupin that I still need to check out? Trigun? Already seen it (plus the movie) and Outlaw Star. Uhm... Master Keaton? |
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| I.....actually haven't heard of that -searches- Ohhh Naoki Urasawa's involved! I guess I can check it out in the future. Thanks |
| Please recommend me some old anime (no Gundam). Manga is fine too. http://myanimelist.net/animelist/Sloth_ |
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Sloth_ said: Please recommend me some old anime (no Gundam). No Hokuto no Ken!? Alleviate this problem my good sir! (Just Fist of the North Star 1, not 2). |
AngelsArcanum said: We have a winner. This, honestly, looks exactly like something I'm keen for, thank you :)Sloth_ said: Please recommend me some old anime (no Gundam). No Hokuto no Ken!? Alleviate this problem my good sir! (Just Fist of the North Star 1, not 2). Though, why not #2? |
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Sloth_ said: AngelsArcanum said: We have a winner. This, honestly, looks exactly like something I'm keen for, thank you :)Sloth_ said: Please recommend me some old anime (no Gundam). No Hokuto no Ken!? Alleviate this problem my good sir! (Just Fist of the North Star 1, not 2). Though, why not #2? No problem at all. Intially Buronson wanted to end the series at the Raoh arc, but due to the immense popularity, he extended the series because people were pining for more Hokuto no Ken. Unfortunately the writing quality plummets after Raoh because Buronson hadn't originally planned to go beyond that part and was just doing it for the readers, and it really shows; the arcs that come after are basically crappy rehashes of older ones with a few hackneyed elements thrown in to expand the mythos beyond what it was originally (long lost brothers, secret islands, etc). It drew out for 12 volumes past the planned 15, and by the time the last few volumes hit, Buronson just makes a final arc that is a figurative middle finger to the fans telling them he is done with the series; the last arc is painfully dumb and forced and is just an absolutely abysmal experience. So yeah, the original 15 volumes of the manga/108 episodes of the anime are fantastic, the rest is crap. |
AngelsArcanumJun 3, 2014 3:42 PM
| They are made by the same people. Same LN author and same director. Durarara!! season is going to be directed by someone different, though. |
| @mavro Trust and Betrayal is just the 4 episode OVA. It's 2 hours long, nbd ;P. Don't bother with the full anime TV series, just read the manga for it instead (and skip the Reminiscence arc since Trust and Betrayal covers it magnificently). |
AngelsArcanum said: Sloth_ said: AngelsArcanum said: We have a winner. This, honestly, looks exactly like something I'm keen for, thank you :)Sloth_ said: Please recommend me some old anime (no Gundam). No Hokuto no Ken!? Alleviate this problem my good sir! (Just Fist of the North Star 1, not 2). Though, why not #2? No problem at all. Intially Buronson wanted to end the series at the Raoh arc, but due to the immense popularity, he extended the series because people were pining for more Hokuto no Ken. Unfortunately the writing quality plummets after Raoh because Buronson hadn't originally planned to go beyond that part and was just doing it for the readers, and it really shows; the arcs that come after are basically crappy rehashes of older ones with a few hackneyed elements thrown in to expand the mythos beyond what it was originally (long lost brothers, secret islands, etc). It drew out for 12 volumes past the planned 15, and by the time the last few volumes hit, Buronson just makes a final arc that is a figurative middle finger to the fans telling them he is done with the series; the last arc is painfully dumb and forced and is just an absolutely abysmal experience. So yeah, the original 15 volumes of the manga/108 episodes of the anime are fantastic, the rest is crap. All right, thanks for the information. Guess I'll skip it. *109 episodes. |
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Sloth_ said: *109 episodes. The 109th is a recap compilation episode and preview for HnK 2 ;P mavrosheep said: AngelsArcanum said: @mavro Trust and Betrayal is just the 4 episode OVA. It's 2 hours long, nbd ;P. Don't bother with the full anime TV series, just read the manga for it instead (and skip the Reminiscence arc since Trust and Betrayal covers it magnificently). I'll actually watch the whole series though, i don't like skipping stuff, and I don't usually read manga anyway. Unless the anime series is bad and everybody's only recommending the OVA only? Well the anime is somewhat dated and the final arc is entirely filler while replacing a good 1/3 of the manga. Trust and Betrayal's mini arc actually takes place during that final arc in the manga (Jinchu) as a flashback. The manga still looks great to this day and is quite a classic, but it's your call about undergoing it, and with that said, Trust and Betrayal can stand on its own completely, you don't need to watch/read/know anything about RuroKen prior to or after watching it. |
AngelsArcanumJun 4, 2014 6:59 PM
MetalGear said: I have no clue what to watch. I have basically added anything and everything which looks even vaguely appealing to my PTW list, and as a a consequence I am drowning in anime that will probably never be watched. I basically need to see the essentials, and things that you think I would like based on my very small watched list. I'd say probably cut: Afro Samurai, Akuma no Riddle, Another, Basilisk, Bayonetta, all of Black Rock Shooter, Haganai, 5 cm per second (don't bother with anything Shinkai really), Canaan, Darker than Black 2, Deadman Wonderland, Denpa teki na Kanojo (BIG no-no), Devil May Cry, that Final Fantasy OVA?, Freezing, Gantz, Brynhildr, Guilty Crown, Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero, that new Hakkenden anime I hear isn't great, Highschool DxD, Higurashi anime, Hoshi no Koe (more Shinkai), Infinite Stratos, Kaze no Stigma, This Ugly Yet Beautiful World, Nakaimo, Le Chevalier D'eon (another doozy), Lucky Star, Natsuyuki Rendezvous, Nisekoi, Valkyria Chronicles (haven't heard great things), Shigurui (quite extreme and incomplete, but some people like the manga, so if you can stomach it, try the manga perhaps), Shin Sekai Yori, Heaven's Lost Property, Gargantia, Super Sonico, SAO 2, Tenjo Tenge (read the manga instead), To Love-ru, Tokyo Mew Mew, My Little Monster, Vividred Operation, Witch Hunter Robin (awful), Yahari Ore SNAFU or w/e, Familiar of Zero and Master of Martial Hearts. Maybes: 07-Ghost and Ah My Goddess (the manga goes on longer I guess), Burst Angel, Blood Lad, Dance in the Vampire Bund, Durarara, Fate Stay Night original, Fruits Baskets (manga goes on), Highschool of the Dead (depends what you're looking for, it's fun for people who like really trashy stuff I guess), K-On (depends again), Black Butler (same as previous), Level E (the story is one big troll fest to the viewer), Love Hina (more manga), Rin (unless you are okay with eroguro), Phantom Requiem (second half is poor apparently), Trigun anime (try the manga, the anime doesn't hold up too well) and Un-Go. I'll let you know what to prioritize on your list a little later, in a bit of a rush atm. |
| I agree mostly with Angels. Though I'd say keep 5 cm per second and Shin Sekai Yori. Shinkai's works may not have the most solid stories or characters but that's not what they're mainly about. The easily relatable characters and situations lead the viewer to think back to their own similar experiences. If you're going to try out a Shinkai work make it 5 cm per second or The Place Promised in our Early Days. For 5 cm, I felt bittersweet yet calmly content once it was it was finished. At the very least you'll be getting a beautiful anime world to soak in. Shin Sekai Yori was one of my favorite anime from last year. If you're interested about a seemingly utopian society with a few dark secrets then this may be for you. A few of those maybes seem like cuts as well but a lot of it depends like Angels said. I really enjoyed the first half Phantom but the second unfortunately ruined it for me. Reading Love Hina recently made me wonder how it got so popular. There's more unique harems out there. |
| Yeah, I don't know much about Love Hina, but I believe the manga goes on longer and people seem to hold the manga in better regard for whatever it's worth. |
| Thread still alive? If so "pick me! pick me!"... I mean.. uhh please reccommend me something to watch :D. My favorite genre is psychological, mysteries like Death Note, Physco pass etc |
| Mugi beat me to the punch. Watch the Ghost in the Shell series though (GitS Stand Alone Complex.) Basing on your list, it's definitely the more fitting one for you. |
| Thanks both of you :D I'll give it a go |
| As for the stuff you have Planned to Watched I would advise you to watch Hunter x Hunter first as it is absolutely the best Shounen ever :) Also if you enjoyed Baccano! I would say you'll love Durarara. They're made by the same studio (I think?) and Durarara is better in my opinion. |
kitkatxz said: FloatsBoats said: As for the stuff you have Planned to Watched I would advise you to watch Hunter x Hunter first as it is absolutely the best Shounen ever :) Also if you enjoyed Baccano! I would say you'll love Durarara. They're made by the same studio (I think?) and Durarara is better in my opinion. Eh Baccano is better in my opinion cause the story is actually told better and isn't focused on the boring characters unlike durarara focused on the boring highschool characters. I may rematch it though due to the 2nd season coming but i doubt i'll change my score of it being a 4... Yeah Baccano is definetly better. In Baccano pretty much all the characters are entertaining, in Durara the main characters are boring. Big flaw. |
| Look at my list and tell me what to watch. I've run out of ideas. |
Motion_Menace said: Look at my list and tell me what to watch. I've run out of ideas. This isnt so much based on your list, since you dont seem to have seen many like it, but since you havent seen it, I recommend you watch NANA. Its a rather lonely up in my list too as I am not much of a fan of romance/drama type anime but this one is really good. Other than that you could watch Claymore, if you liked Berserk. I feel that its very similar in style and even the ending is similarly cut off, but its actually even worse so in Claymore. Id recommend reading Claymore more than watching it, but I think watching it is quite an enjoyable experience as well, and I dont regrett it despite the butchered ending. |
| @Motion_Menace Try Honey and Clover. I think you would like it. |
I'd like to back this up. I'm currently reading the manga (Since it's the only thing left of H&C which I haven't finished,) and I'm reminded of all the things I loved with the anime. Big rec from me. :D |
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