| Life is about survival Survival is part of evolution Evolution is the process of the survival of the fittest and to pass on the "strong" genes Which eventually leads to evolved forms of primitive life Ultimately, evolution is the process of evolving species into the ultimate being Which is god We are in the process of becoming god Just a funny, little theory and is probably untrue. |
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| No, evolution isn't like pokemon where a species "levels up" and such. It's a result of genetic mutation, and isn't inherently "good" or "bad". |
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Soren333 said: Just a funny, little theory and is probably untrue. And this had to be made as a basis for an entire thread because...? |
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| Evolution is a totally random process and many mutations aren't even good at all. Just look at the Peacock's feathers, they are detrimental in every way except for the fact that the females prefer the males with more bling on them. If we were purposefully levelling up to some awesome god like ideal that would mean evolution is a intelligent process designed or directed by something. Which it isn't. Of course, that is not to say we should accept it as is and move on. Who better to determine our next evolutionary step than ourselves? Bring on the genetic experiments. I'll take a extra heart, double set of lungs, reinforced skeleton and acid spit, thank you. |
Red_Keys said: No, evolution isn't like pokemon where a species "levels up" and such. It's a result of genetic mutation, and isn't inherently "good" or "bad". And it seems that it's going a bad way, that's if we survive human made horrors like wars, or natural disasters like a volcano destroying large populations, if we survived that, OP, then lets talk about god. |
| I used to think the same way until I realized the significance of death as a universal law of nature. Even the gods of this universe will one day die, in whatever dimension of time they exist in. Soren333 said: Ultimately, evolution is the process of evolving species into the ultimate being This is where you're wrong, as explained by Red_Keys: Red_Keys said: It's a result of genetic mutation, and isn't inherently "good" or "bad". Moreover, good and bad may or may not exist in this universe, but both will always experience both life and death in the form of cycles. |
Emma_ said: We already have survived plenty of those though.And it seems that it's going a bad way, that's if we survive human made horrors like wars, or natural disasters like a volcano destroying large populations, if we survived that, OP, then lets talk about god. Hell, even if Yellowstone erupted there is no doubt in my mind that humanity would eventually rise triumphantly from the ashes of our current civilizations. |
| .....Thats retarded. Soren333 said: We are in the process of becoming god http://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/tg/image/1335/68/1335682230873.jpg |
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| That presumes that evolutionary progression actually has a set direction. The term "survival of the fittest" is often misunderstood. It's not about the life form that runs fastest or hits things the hardest. It's about the life form that best fits its ecological niche, thereby being fittest. Trees are fit because they grow tall enough to collect the sunlight they need to survive. Humans are fit because they're able to adapt to new environments and situations with the help of their enormous brains. The lowly tapeworm is fit because it takes advantage of the free energy inside a mammal's digestive tract, making all of those pesky wasteful nervous and circulatory systems of its ancestors unnecessary. Each life form has found one thing that it does well and makes use of it. |
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| evolution already produced, from non-organic matter, a self-aware mammal, so i do think this theory holds water. This self-aware mammal has the capacity to evolve itself intelligently which no other animal has in quite the same capacity. Maybe God is the singularity or limit towards which evolution will exponentially approach... Also Transhumanism ftmfw |
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| Survival of the fittest doesn't apply to humans anymore so we're not evolving much at all, let alone into 'god'. |
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| survival of the fittest is just the mechanism by which evolution operates, it doesn't mean that we can't evolve or progress in other ways. it's like nature's version of trial and error. I mean, Richard Dawkin's whole meme theory perfectly explains how thought and communication evolves, and then you just have technological advancement which is definitely akin to evolution. So yeah at the end of the day evolution kind of IS like pokemon leveling up to the next stage. And for humans that next stage could very well be to a godlike or demi-god status. I believe many have done it already. |
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Consolation said: What the fuck am I reading? BryanBossling said: Why are all your threads so shitty. |
Zeally said: Consolation said: What the fuck am I reading? BryanBossling said: Why are all your threads so shitty. |
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| don't listen to them man, this is a pretty neat topic xD |
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BryanBossling said: Why are all your threads so shitty. They're so shit they belong in the toilet. |
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| Well Soren, as a theist, I can see what you are trying to say, but this isn't going to happen here. People from MAL believe that religion = one belief, while religion is a set of beliefs. |
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Narmy said: This is just plain wrong.Survival of the fittest doesn't apply to humans anymore so we're not evolving much at all, let alone into 'god'. |
JReitan said: Narmy said: This is just plain wrong.Survival of the fittest doesn't apply to humans anymore so we're not evolving much at all, let alone into 'god'. It's not. We have medicine, welfare, etc, that allows us to live longer than before. As mentioned previously, these things help the weak survive as well |
Soren333 said: Zeally said: Consolation said: What the fuck am I reading? BryanBossling said: Why are all your threads so shitty. |
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Soren333 said: Just a funny, little theory and is probably untrue. |
text27 said: yes if you read the whole thing...robots will only kill the people you put in-front of them so yeah. RandomChampion said: u were that homie in the thong werent u |
Zephys said: JReitan said: Narmy said: This is just plain wrong.Survival of the fittest doesn't apply to humans anymore so we're not evolving much at all, let alone into 'god'. It's not. We have medicine, welfare, etc, that allows us to live longer than before. As mentioned previously, these things help the weak survive as well Evolution does not have to mean the physical capabilities of one person. It can mean a society as a whole. Technology and science are a part of evolution. |
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sedmelluq said: Zephys said: JReitan said: Narmy said: This is just plain wrong.Survival of the fittest doesn't apply to humans anymore so we're not evolving much at all, let alone into 'god'. It's not. We have medicine, welfare, etc, that allows us to live longer than before. As mentioned previously, these things help the weak survive as well Evolution does not have to mean the physical capabilities of one person. It can mean a society as a whole. Technology and science are a part of evolution. That's not the context in which the word evolution is being used in this thread. |
Zephys said: sedmelluq said: Zephys said: JReitan said: Narmy said: This is just plain wrong.Survival of the fittest doesn't apply to humans anymore so we're not evolving much at all, let alone into 'god'. It's not. We have medicine, welfare, etc, that allows us to live longer than before. As mentioned previously, these things help the weak survive as well Evolution does not have to mean the physical capabilities of one person. It can mean a society as a whole. Technology and science are a part of evolution. That's not the context that the word evolution is being used in this thread. It is if our technology and science become good enough for rewriting our genes for the better that way. Although, better is kind of subjective in this case. |
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sedmelluq said: Zephys said: sedmelluq said: Zephys said: JReitan said: Narmy said: This is just plain wrong.Survival of the fittest doesn't apply to humans anymore so we're not evolving much at all, let alone into 'god'. It's not. We have medicine, welfare, etc, that allows us to live longer than before. As mentioned previously, these things help the weak survive as well Evolution does not have to mean the physical capabilities of one person. It can mean a society as a whole. Technology and science are a part of evolution. That's not the context that the word evolution is being used in this thread. It is if our technology and science become good enough for rewriting our genes for the better that way. Although, better is kind of subjective in this case. Then it's not "natural" selection anymore. |
Zephys said: sedmelluq said: Zephys said: sedmelluq said: Evolution does not have to mean the physical capabilities of one person. It can mean a society as a whole. Technology and science are a part of evolution. That's not the context that the word evolution is being used in this thread. It is if our technology and science become good enough for rewriting our genes for the better that way. Although, better is kind of subjective in this case. Then it's not "natural" selection anymore. No one said it had to be. |
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sedmelluq said: Zephys said: sedmelluq said: Zephys said: sedmelluq said: Evolution does not have to mean the physical capabilities of one person. It can mean a society as a whole. Technology and science are a part of evolution. That's not the context that the word evolution is being used in this thread. It is if our technology and science become good enough for rewriting our genes for the better that way. Although, better is kind of subjective in this case. Then it's not "natural" selection anymore. No one said it had to be. I suppose it doesn't, but when people talk about evolution in terms of "survival of the fittest," they don't talk about it by artificial means. It's used more in the context of natural selection, which is what OP, and the post I was quoting, were referring to. |
Zephys said: It's not. We have medicine, welfare, etc, that allows us to live longer than before. As mentioned previously, these things help the weak survive as well Surviving for longer than before does not equate to surviving for eternity. Survival is always a key desire for every living being unless the possibility of death were to be obliterated as a universal law for a living being. This is impossible. |
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JReitan said: Zephys said: It's not. We have medicine, welfare, etc, that allows us to live longer than before. As mentioned previously, these things help the weak survive as well Surviving for longer than before does not equate to surviving for eternity. Survival is always a key desire for every living being unless the possibility of death were to be obliterated as a universal law for a living being. This is impossible. What does that have to do with evolution? Evolution occurs when the creatures with the best genes suited for survival in an environment live to find a mate and reproduce, while the least adapted creatures die out. In human society, your genes don't really determine whether you live or die, so even the weak can pass on their genes. You only need to survive long enough to reproduce, surviving for an eternity is irrelevant. |
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Soren333 said: Life is about survival Survival is part of evolution Evolution is the process of the survival of the fittest and to pass on the "strong" genes Which eventually leads to evolved forms of primitive life Ultimately, evolution is the process of evolving species into the ultimate being Which is god We are in the process of becoming god Just a funny, little theory and is probably untrue. This is the exact point where your logic stops making sense and the bullshit starts. Evolution is just a set of genetic mutations that are fixed when they are useful in an environment. It's not a linear process and it can include reversions, just like some fishes losing their eyes or tapeworms losing their digestive tract. |
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Narmy said: What does that have to do with evolution? Evolution occurs when the creatures with the best genes suited for survival in an environment live to find a mate and reproduce, while the least adapted creatures die out. In human society, your genes don't really determine whether you live or die, so even the weak can pass on their genes. You only need to survive long enough to reproduce, surviving for an eternity is irrelevant. Surviving for eternity is indeed irrelevant, which is why arguing that medicine and technology has changed things for the weak is also irrelevant. Medicine and technology hasn't changed the desire to survive, yet Zephys is saying that it has. I quote: Zephys said: Survival of the fittest doesn't apply to humans anymore so we're not evolving much at all, let alone into 'god'. This statement is plain wrong; Medicine and technology hasn't changed our need to survive. Men are still mortal, and will always be mortal unless the laws of nature were to magically change. Medicine and technology don't magically change anything. |
JReitan said: I think he means in a evolutionary sense.This statement is plain wrong; Medicine and technology hasn't changed our need to survive. Men are still mortal, and will always be mortal unless the laws of nature were to magically change. Medicine and technology don't magically change anything. Our cultural evolution has completely eclipsed our natural one and indeed, in the wealthier parts of the world there is no struggle for survival and the "survival of the fittest" no longer has any meaning. After all, everyone survives, even the sad wretches that nature would have culled now live due to the benevolence of society. I suppose one might still claim there is some sort of bonus for the most adaptable, wealth and influence, but these are very often caused more because of luck than anything else. And it certainly has no evolutionary impact either way. |
JReitan said: Narmy said: What does that have to do with evolution? Evolution occurs when the creatures with the best genes suited for survival in an environment live to find a mate and reproduce, while the least adapted creatures die out. In human society, your genes don't really determine whether you live or die, so even the weak can pass on their genes. You only need to survive long enough to reproduce, surviving for an eternity is irrelevant. Surviving for eternity is indeed irrelevant, which is why arguing that medicine and technology has changed things for the weak is also irrelevant. Medicine and technology hasn't changed the desire to survive, yet Zephys is saying that it has. I quote: Zephys said: Survival of the fittest doesn't apply to humans anymore so we're not evolving much at all, let alone into 'god'. This statement is plain wrong; Medicine and technology hasn't changed our need to survive. Men are still mortal, and will always be mortal unless the laws of nature were to magically change. Medicine and technology don't magically change anything. I'm the one who said that, I dunno how you managed to screw that quote up. I suppose I should have said 'natural selection' instead; I wasn't talking about survival in the literal sense, but the process by which species evolve. |
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cabacc2 said: even if we assume that survival of the fittest doesnt apply to humans anymore, this still doesnt mean that we dont evolve anymore. Survival of the fittest still applies. It's just that the environment that we're attempting to fit into is different from the one our ancestors lived in thousands of years ago. |
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