Shuhan said: The lolis in Ro Kyu Bu! are pretty bad ass. Wut. |
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| Ok, I call BS on everyone who says women are usually stronger than men in anime! We must be watching completely different anime. I will admit that strong female characters seem to be a growing trend but from what I've seen men still have the advantage in the power department. I think this power difference has to do with Japan's history as a male dominated society. |
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Thund3r1 said: Ok, I call BS on everyone who says women are usually stronger than men in anime! We must be watching completely different anime. I will admit that strong female characters seem to be a growing trend but from what I've seen men still have the advantage in the power department. I think this power difference has to do with Japan's history as a male dominated society. Are western movies any different in that regard? Nah. And as much as I dislike it, but men actually have the advantage in RL too. |
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Ratohnhaketon said: Unchou said: Don‘t watch badly written shounen and you will maybe find some. Ironically you're going to find the weakest and most submissive women in shoujo. Add that category as well. Said it because his list is full of shounen. |
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Shiratori99 said: Thund3r1 said: Ok, I call BS on everyone who says women are usually stronger than men in anime! We must be watching completely different anime. I will admit that strong female characters seem to be a growing trend but from what I've seen men still have the advantage in the power department. I think this power difference has to do with Japan's history as a male dominated society. Are western movies any different in that regard? Nah. And as much as I dislike it, but men actually have the advantage in RL too. Statistics. More men watch anime/movies. It's just a fact, we see it with our own eyes. Both in western movies and in eastern its the same exact thing. |
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Ratohnhaketon said: Unchou said: Don‘t watch badly written shounen and you will maybe find some. Ironically you're going to find the weakest and most submissive women in shoujo. Cause women like to be protected by men. The most most zealous proponents of gender inequality are probably women themselves. |
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Shiratori99 said: Ratohnhaketon said: Unchou said: Don‘t watch badly written shounen and you will maybe find some. Ironically you're going to find the weakest and most submissive women in shoujo. Cause women like to be protected by men. The most most zealous proponents of gender inequality are probably women themselves. Its an instinct, and fighting against it might proove fatal one day. If they really manage to get rid completely of the protective instinct in men, because of their stupid sense of pride, they might be fine for now, but when one day the system collapses and there is war and anarchy again, then women will be doomed completely. |
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pizzasparklez said: Why are female characters portrayed to be so weak in anime in everything lols |
| Depends on what kind of "weak" you mean. If you mean physically weak, then that's realistic, but if you mean mentally weak, than they may be a little pandering the male/lesbian fans out there. Unless you're watching a harem of some sort though, the females are typically not that weak. Males have got it worse off though. Males in anime are typically shown as boring people with no personality. |
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Dark_Divider said: Depends on what kind of "weak" you mean. If you mean physically weak, then that's realistic, but if you mean mentally weak, than they may be a little pandering the male/lesbian fans out there. Unless you're watching a harem of some sort though, the females are typically not that weak. Males have got it worse off though. Males in anime are typically shown as boring people with no personality. Honestly, even in the typical romance/harems that get all this flak for making women seem weak, the male characters tend to be the weak ones. Now, I'm not gonna sit here and argue that romance/harems don't objectify women, because that's not the point here, but what I will argue is that usually it's the women dominating/protecting the male. Example: And that list doesn't even include anime where both the females and males are strong, anime where neither protects/dominates the other, or even anime where the females just treat the main character like shit, but aren't necessarily stronger than him. Put some shit into perspective? I hope so. - Yandere. |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
YandereTheEmo said: Dark_Divider said: Depends on what kind of "weak" you mean. If you mean physically weak, then that's realistic, but if you mean mentally weak, than they may be a little pandering the male/lesbian fans out there. Unless you're watching a harem of some sort though, the females are typically not that weak. Males have got it worse off though. Males in anime are typically shown as boring people with no personality. Honestly, even in the typical romance/harems that get all this flak for making women seem weak, the male characters tend to be the weak ones. Now, I'm not gonna sit here and argue that romance/harems don't objectify women, because that's not the point here, but what I will argue is that usually it's the women dominating/protecting the male. Example: And that list doesn't even include anime where both the females and males are strong, anime where neither protects/dominates the other, or even anime where the females just treat the main character like shit, but aren't necessarily stronger than him. Put some shit into perspective? I hope so. - Yandere. You sound very upset, Yan. You alright? It almost feels like you specifically targeting me for whatever reason :S By weak, I meant that the females are very dependent on the male, and the male either has no interest in them or cannot make up his mind. He typically has the power here. Take Rosario + Vampire for example. He's a typical high schooler, and the girls are powerful demons that could kill him within a moments notice, yet they do not. They all want him. See what I mean? Now calm down, Yan. No need to get into a hissyfit, especially how you are incorrect :/ |
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Dark_Divider said: You sound very upset, Yan. You alright? It almost feels like you specifically targeting me for whatever reason :S I wouldn't say that I'm upset? I mean, it's up to the reader to interpret my tone based on what I type, but I wouldn't say that I was, nor am I upset. In regards to "targeting" you, I would have simply replied to you if I was targeting you, sweetheart. By weak, I meant that the females are very dependent on the male, and the male either has no interest in them or cannot make up his mind. I took that into consideration. I also took into consideration that if the male is portrayed as a pathetic disgrace for a man who relies heavily on the women around him, and his thrashed around by said women (Typically tsunderes), it would cancel out this "Neediness," for it would be a two-sided thing. He typically has the power here. R-Really now? A guy walks in on a girl changing, she beats the shit out of him, and he's the asshole in the end. A girl walks in on a guy changing, she beats the shit out of him, and he's still the asshole in the end. Sounds like this guy has a lot of power, am I right? Take Rosario + Vampire for example. He's a typical high schooler, and the girls are powerful demons that could kill him within a moments notice, yet they do not. Also note that they couldn't kill him within a moment's notice. Most of them don't know he's a human, and there's rules and restrictions in the school stopping them from mindlessly killing each other. Also, I think it's common knowledge that average teens in anime don't just go on random killing sprees for shits 'n giggles, no? They all want him. See what I mean? Note that in the beginning of the series, he was abused by girls, thrown around like a sandbag, almost killed purely because he was in the way, and much more. He's even used as essentially a sex toy by a teacher later on. I see what you mean by them all wanting him, but it's a two-way thing. They're dependent on him, but he's also dependent on them. See what I mean? I sure hope so. Now calm down, Yan. No need to get into a hissyfit, especially how you are incorrect :/ I'm completely calm? I'm confused? Is this supposed to be your way of passive-aggressively attacking me or something? I think me trying to prove a point may have gone straight over your head based on this. You probably just assumed I was angry because of my sarcasm, and way of writing. I'll reassure you again, but I'm sure you'll just respond with another "Don't be angry ________." comment. Anyway, I'm not angry, I haven't been angry, and I don't plan on getting angry. We're having an online discussion/argument right now, no reason for me to get angry over something like that, no? See what I mean? - Yandere. |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
| Because anime is SEXIST, it promotes misogyny to pander to the males that watch that. |
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| None of the female characters that are in this site's top fall into that category, though. You've probably only watched harems and such. |
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YandereTheEmo said: Dark_Divider said: You sound very upset, Yan. You alright? It almost feels like you specifically targeting me for whatever reason :S I wouldn't say that I'm upset? I mean, it's up to the reader to interpret my tone based on what I type, but I wouldn't say that I was, nor am I upset. In regards to "targeting" you, I would have simply replied to you if I was targeting you, sweetheart. By weak, I meant that the females are very dependent on the male, and the male either has no interest in them or cannot make up his mind. I took that into consideration. I also took into consideration that if the male is portrayed as a pathetic disgrace for a man who relies heavily on the women around him, and his thrashed around by said women (Typically tsunderes), it would cancel out this "Neediness," for it would be a two-sided thing. He typically has the power here. R-Really now? A guy walks in on a girl changing, she beats the shit out of him, and he's the asshole in the end. A girl walks in on a guy changing, she beats the shit out of him, and he's still the asshole in the end. Sounds like this guy has a lot of power, am I right? Take Rosario + Vampire for example. He's a typical high schooler, and the girls are powerful demons that could kill him within a moments notice, yet they do not. Also note that they couldn't kill him within a moment's notice. Most of them don't know he's a human, and there's rules and restrictions in the school stopping them from mindlessly killing each other. Also, I think it's common knowledge that average teens in anime don't just go on random killing sprees for shits 'n giggles, no? They all want him. See what I mean? Note that in the beginning of the series, he was abused by girls, thrown around like a sandbag, almost killed purely because he was in the way, and much more. He's even used as essentially a sex toy by a teacher later on. I see what you mean by them all wanting him, but it's a two-way thing. They're dependent on him, but he's also dependent on them. See what I mean? I sure hope so. Now calm down, Yan. No need to get into a hissyfit, especially how you are incorrect :/ I'm completely calm? I'm confused? Is this supposed to be your way of passive-aggressively attacking me or something? I think me trying to prove a point may have gone straight over your head based on this. You probably just assumed I was angry because of my sarcasm, and way of writing. I'll reassure you again, but I'm sure you'll just respond with another "Don't be angry ________." comment. Anyway, I'm not angry, I haven't been angry, and I don't plan on getting angry. We're having an online discussion/argument right now, no reason for me to get angry over something like that, no? See what I mean? - Yandere. Yeah....you aren't really convincing me that you aren't upset, because you really do sound it. Take a chill pill and and come back tomorrow, yeah? I mean really, you don't think this YandereTheEmo said: Put some shit into perspective? I hope so. - Yandere. sounds like something coming from an angry lad? You sound like you have something against me, although I have no idea what it is :S Now I could respond to everything you've just said, but you're basically repeating what you said in your first post, so there is nothing to respond to. Instead, I'll repeat myself in a way you may be able to understand (hopefully). You say that because the male is wimpy, because he is physically weak, because he is shy, socially awkward and has all the bad traits imaginable, he is weak. You also say that because of gender unfairness, he is weak. That may be so, but love conquers all. If someone likes you, you have power over them. Nothing else matters. A lot of male leads of either incredibly dense (meaning they do not like the females) or are perverts, or perhaps both. However, they have the power. If he just up and left, the females wouldn't know what to do with themselves. If the females up and left, the male would think something along the lines of "oh well. Back to Call Of Duty I guess". When someone gets that upset if the other leaves and it wouldn't be the same vice versa, that person is weak and the leaver has absolute power. It isn't even restricted to males and females either. When Sasuke left in Naruto, he had power, and Naruto and Sakura were mentally weak, as they found it hard to go on without him and are still looking for him, after all the crazy shit he's pulled, all the stuff that goes against everything they stand for. Pretty sure I've explained that one point in 2 or 3 different ways, so if you don't get it now, I don't think I could enlighten you any other way. I am sorry, Yan. |
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Dark_Divider said: Yeah....you aren't really convincing me that you aren't upset, because you really do sound it. Take a chill pill and and come back tomorrow, yeah? I mean really, you don't think this I mean, I already kind of predicted you'd respond like this, but it sounds like you're scared. You don't know how to respond, and in fact you deny what I said later in your post claiming it's just me "repeating" what I said earlier. Now, you can be afraid of arguing with others for whatever reason, but don't project that fear as someone else being angry. I'm perfectly calm and collected right now, and I don't see any reason why I should be, no? YandereTheEmo said: Put some shit into perspective? I hope so. - Yandere. sounds like something coming from an angry lad? You sound like you have something against me, although I have no idea what it is :S I don't really think it sounds like that. It sounds sarcastic and condescending in my opinion, and that was my intent. Listen here sweetheart, just because someone cusses doesn't mean they're angry. Words don't necessarily always carry weight, no? Now I could respond to everything you've just said, but you're basically repeating what you said in your first post, so there is nothing to respond to. Really now? In my opinion I analyzed what you wrote. You tried to use examples from Rosario + Vampire, so I responded to them, and rebutted your claims. I guess you don't really understand how debates work though, right? When someone analyzes and rebuts what you write, you're supposed to do the same in return. It's a back-and-forth of sorts, but you seem to have no interest in that, no? Instead, I'll repeat myself in a way you may be able to understand (hopefully). "Awawwawa You sound angry!!!! Stop being so anrgy!!!!!!! trake a chrill bill!!!!" Honestly though, I understood what you wrote, so there's no reason for you to repeat yourself? Unless you don't have anything else of substance to add. In which case, there's no shame in admitting that. You say that because the male is wimpy, because he is physically weak, because he is shy, socially awkward and has all the bad traits imaginable, he is weak. Where do I say any of that? I say that because the main character in Rosario + Vampire is protected by, abused by, treated like a sex toy by, and such by the girls in the show, he's weak. If someone is being treated like a sandbag by some, protected by others, and is weak willed, they're weak. I don't get what else makes someone weak? "I can't face my own problems, I can't fight, and I don't speak up... B-But I'm not weak... I-I'm just... Shut up..." Is that what you're thinking? Cause I can't really can't comprehend not seeing that as at least somewhat weak. You also say that because of gender unfairness, he is weak. I never mentioned "gender unfairness." I mentioned how he's treated like shit, abused, used like a sex toy, and such. I.e. He's weak, and get's "Used" by the domineering female characters. Is that hard to understand, buddy? That may be so, but love conquers all. Since when were we talking about love? "F-Female characters may be weak 'n all... b-but love conquers all... s-so shut up..." I didn't know we were having this kind of conversation? What's next, an argument about the birds 'n the bees? If someone likes you, you have power over them. Nothing else matters. Every Shoujo Ever Made begs to differ. Just because someone has feelings for you doesn't mean you have any power. I.e. There's even an entire line of different basic archetypes that counteract that. Dandere, Kuudere, Tsundere, Yangire, Yandere, etc... Just because someone likes you doesn't mean you're the only thing that matters in their life, or that you're their master. That's not how love works. A lot of male leads of either incredibly dense (meaning they do not like the females) Wait, hold up a second. Are you actually-- I'll hold it, and instead give you a definition of what "dense" means in this context. Dense: Adjective a) stupid; slow-witted; dull. So it doesn't mean he doesn't like the girls. It means that he's unable to realize that they like him, so he doesn't act upon their feelings, making their love seem unrequited. However, they have the power. If he just up and left, the females wouldn't know what to do with themselves. If the females up and left, the male would think something along the lines of "oh well. Back to Call Of Duty I guess". Not sure about that one. Now, maybe if all the girls were Yanderes, or none of them had families or lives in the first place, but in the case of something like Rosario + Vampire (Let's stick to the same example, kay?) all of the girls were already in high school before they met him, and they all have lives outside of their lives with him. They're all in the Newspaper club, and they each have their own aspirations in life. Meaning that they have purpose, reason to live, and wouldn't be dumbfounded or lost without the protagonist. Now, in the same situation, if all the girls left, the Main character would probably quit school, and end up becoming a high school drop out. Want my logic on this one? The only reason he stayed in that school was because of his friends who go there, specifically his "love" Moka. Without her, and his friends being there, he wouldn't have a reason to stay in the, and I quote, "Hellish School" - Tsukune that he goes to. He isn't very bright, so he wouldn't be able to get into a regular school (Watch the first few minutes of episode one), which would lead him to be a high school drop-out. Note that all of this information can be reasonably inferred based on what happened in the first episode of the first season of the anime. When someone gets that upset if the other leaves and it wouldn't be the same vice versa, that person is weak and the leaver has absolute power. Note that this isn't true at all. First of all, nothing says that the girls would have no life aside from the protagonist (See: Mashiro-iro Symphony, Akane-iro ni Somaru Saka, Five Centimeters per Second, and much more). Also, note that in many cases, the main character needs the girls to protect him. Now, I'm not gonna deny that in some anime (To Love-ru for example) the girls do rely on the love and affection of the main character a bit too much, but that's not all that common. In most of these anime, the girls are fine on their own, and it's the guy who needs saving and protection, meaning that he's weak. You following me so far? It isn't even restricted to males and females either. "This thing that happens between people isn't even just restricted to people. For example, when these people did this to these people, this thing happened to those people." - Dark 2013 When Sasuke left in Naruto, he had power, and Naruto and Sakura were mentally weak, as they found it hard to go on without him and are still looking for him, after all the crazy shit he's pulled, all the stuff that goes against everything they stand for. Pretty sure I've explained that one point in 2 or 3 different ways, so if you don't get it now, I don't think I could enlighten you any other way. I am sorry, Yan. In the case of Sasuke and Naruto, that wasn't love, so I don't get how it relates to your "Love conquers all" point, but I'll still analyze it. They were broken up because he left, but they could live without him. You realize as you continue watching that their lives, while damaged, still go on quite well without him. They take great strides to search for him, but they take breaks, have fun, deal with their own challenges, and go on many other ventures along the way. Honestly, if you have watched, and kept up with the show, it's pretty obvious that he's not the first thing on their minds, and that they can all function, live, and act without him. You don't need to enlighten me? What you do need to do is be respectful, and actually respond to the points I make. I take strides to respond to every tid-bit of each one of your comments, but you disregard mine. It's just common courtesy for you to actually take the time to respond to my points. It makes you look better in the end anyway, so why not just do it? Anyway, I responded to, analyzed, and critiqued every one of your points, so unless you have something new to bring to the table, don't disregard what I wrote. Have a good day, or rather, I hope to see your response soon? Not exactly sure which would fit better here, but you get the point. - Yandere. |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
| It's not just in anime. A lot of media projects that. |
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| How the hell did Naruto end up in that conversation? I'm kinda dumbfounded right now ._. |
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YandereTheEmo said: However, they have the power. If he just up and left, the females wouldn't know what to do with themselves. If the females up and left, the male would think something along the lines of "oh well. Back to Call Of Duty I guess". Not sure about that one. Now, maybe if all the girls were Yanderes, or none of them had families or lives in the first place, but in the case of something like Rosario + Vampire (Let's stick to the same example, kay?) all of the girls were already in high school before they met him, and they all have lives outside of their lives with him. They're all in the Newspaper club, and they each have their own aspirations in life. Meaning that they have purpose, reason to live, and wouldn't be dumbfounded or lost without the protagonist. You still don't understand, do you? Just because you have a life before someone new comes into your life, doesn't mean you can just go back to that old life once that someone disappears. Bringing this back to Naruto, Sasuke once said something along the lines of "you never had parents in the first place, how could you know how I feel?" which was implying that losing loved ones is better than never having loved ones at all. If we apply this logic, the females would feel even worse when he is gone, and not be able to go back to their ordinary lives so easily. Using this logic, who would feel better? The male, or the heartbroken females? You couldn't honestly tell me that if you married the woman you love, you could just go back to your life before like nothing ever happened. Only a naive inexperienced child would have that mindset. |
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| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
YandereTheEmo said: Just because you have a life before someone new comes into your life, doesn't mean you can just go back to that old life once that someone disappears. Yes it does. Do you know how many people die each day? Do you know how many people move away from others every day? Do you know how people react? They get upset for a while, and then they deal with it, and move on with their lives. If you can't understand how this simple of an action in every day life works, I don't know how to explain it to you. I have a friend who's mother died of cancer when she was younger, and she stopped going to the school we used to go to for about three weeks. After she came back, everything was normal, and she's moved on completely in her life. If you still can't understand how this works, go watch an American Rom-Com or Sit-Com, or go watch the short animated film "Five Centimeters Per Second." Both are representations of people dealing with loss maturely. That's how normal people act. You're taking this way too literally -.- Yes, of course you can physically go back to that life before, but you won't be as happy as you were before meeting that person. These things leave scars. Of course, you can forget about these things and move on with your life, but that scar will always be in the back of your mind, lingering. You will remember it from time to time, and even if you don't, you'll be more pessimistic than before, even if it's just a little bit. You really are a naive child if you can just so easily say "hey, it's ok, I'll get over it in a few years or so". It's quite obvious you haven't ever been in a relationship, and it's quite obvious that you've never had someone close to you leave either. How sheltered you must be. |
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Dark_Divider said: You're taking this way too literally -.- Yes, of course you can physically go back to that life before, but you won't be as happy as you were before meeting that person. Umm? I don't think I am. I was referring to someone's emotional state. In regards to physicality, you never "leave" the state you were in when someone dies. However, you're emotionally affected. I was referring to how people move on with their lives, deal with their emotions, and move forward. It's a common concept, but you seem to be having a lot of trouble with it. Man, I didn't think it was that complex either. These things leave scars. Of course, you can forget about these things and move on with your life, but that scar will always be in the back of your mind, lingering. Well, that's fucking obvious, but it doesn't mean that the person hasn't moved on. Sure, when someone loses someone close to them, they'll be hurt, they'll have trouble, they'll struggle, they will need a break from their lives, but they'll still move on. It's how relationships work. People move on, they deal with their problems, and they realist that fretting over losing one person won't help them. It's a common concept, tons of people do it, and if you have an IQ in the triple-digits, it's not that hard to understand. You will remember it from time to time, and even if you don't, you'll be more pessimistic than before, even if it's just a little bit. That depends on the situation. Not everyone reacts the same, but they do move on. Sure, maybe you'll have changed if your wife died, but not if a friend moved away. You know how many childhood friends I had that moved away or left? More than I could count, but do I care anymore? Eh, maybe a little. Not enough for it to affect me, or change me in any way though. These are real examples, something you have none of. You really are a naive child if you can just so easily say "hey, it's ok, I'll get over it in a few years or so". It's quite obvious you haven't ever been in a relationship, and it's quite obvious that you've never had someone close to you leave either. How sheltered you must be. I wouldn't call myself a naive child. However, I would impose that upon you, for you seem to not understand such simple concepts as moving on. People don't look at it like that either, but you seem to think that they do. When I say "Move on" I mean it like... Well I'll make up an example for you, okay? A man in his 30's just lost his daughter and wife in a car accident, and is now at a bar drinking his troubles away. A younger man with his girlfriend walks up to the dude, and starts to talk with him. The young man "shot the shit" with the man and he learned that the man had just suffered a loss. He consoled him, and tried to reassure him that it was all gonna be alright, but it didn't help. Later that week the man went to his Wife and Daughter's funeral, and he couldn't even face his in-laws. He was estranged from his family, and he was put on leave from work because he was a wreck. He wept for weeks, tried to reminisce his life, and such, but nothing seemed to work. One day, his wife's sister came knocking on his door. She talked with him about how his wife wanted to have more kids, and all this cute stuff that she had done with his wife as a child. She then told him about how he shouldn't blame himself for what happened, and how he needed to move on because weeping wasn't going to help anyone. He told her to leave, but she was persistent. She returned every day, and eventually got a smile out of him. They started to get closer, and he finally started his life again. He moved on, and years later he ended up with his wife's sister, ironic, right? He didn't forget his wife, but he didn't change as a person. He visited his wife and daughter's graves every year, and made a tradition out of it. He was content with his life, and he knew that they did love him, and that he wouldn't help anybody by weeping, so he moved on. fifty years later, he was sitting on his deathbed, and thinking through his life. His last words to his current wife (The sister) were this, "I'm really glad that you came to me that day... I think that if you hadn't, I may have lost myself right then... I-I'm glad that I met all of you, and I'm glad that I moved on." Now, while this story was corny and cliché, it proves my point. It's easier, and more beneficial to move on with one's life than to sit around moping, so that's what most people do. It's a childish idea to think that nobody can move on, and if you can't understand this, you're nothing but a child. In regards to my personal life, I'm not sheltered, and I wouldn't say I haven't had relationships. I don't want to delve into my breakups, friendships, and losses, because this is an anime forum, but I'll tell you this: Afte living for a while, you learn that moving on is one of the best, most satisfying things that you can do in your life. Happy Living - Yandere. |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
YandereTheEmo said: I wouldn't call myself a naive child. However, I would impose that upon you You are basically saying "no u" in a more polished way. No matter how you dress it up, a turd is still a turd, and you are basically saying "no u" to me, which is not very mature. I used to know someone who used that technique in primary school. I'd enlighten you about hardships, but mere words cannot help you understand. You have to experience them yourself. Judging from how you speak, you clearly haven't had any. Your words are just that - words. Words with nothing supporting them. There is nothing I can teach you. Oh well. You may only return to me when you have experienced sorrow, and actually know what you are talking about, because your words right now have no weight. Until then, Yan. - Dark Divider. |
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Dark_Divider said: You are basically saying "no u" in a more polished way. No matter how you dress it up, a turd is still a turd, and you are basically saying "no u" to me, which is not very mature. I used to know someone who used that technique in primary school. Honestly, I hate this kind of logic. I'm not dressing anything up. If I merely wanted to say "No u" I would have done so when you first accused me of being a child. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but you're not somehow immune from being called a child just because you said it first. I decided you were a naive child when you disregarded every point I made, and couldn't even understand the idea of moving forward. I think it was a fair assumption of character on my part, but I'm sure you'd disagree. I'd enlighten you about hardships, but mere words cannot help you understand. You have to experience them yourself. Judging from how you speak, you clearly haven't had any. Your words are just that - words. Words with nothing supporting them. There is nothing I can teach you. Oh well. Honestly, I don't know how you'd enlighten me about anything? You've made no coherent points and given no evidence so far. I've given real life examples for god's sake, and yet you still say I'm inexperienced? You can't even comprehend the commodity that is "Moving forward in one's life." I'm not sure how you wouldn't understand this unless you hadn't experienced loss. Everyone moves on with their lives, or they die. It's how things work. Nelson Mandela died, but the entire Afro-American community didn't just lay down and die, and you know why? Because people know how to live on their own, how to move forward, how to change, and how to act. If they didn't, they'd have died ages ago. It's called "moving forward" and even middle-schoolers can understand the concept. You can't. You may only return to me when you have experienced sorrow, and actually know what you are talking about, because your words right now have no weight. Until then, Yan. - Dark Divider. Are you actually retarded? I've given real examples, and even given you cliché examples because you couldn't comprehend the real life ones. I've experienced loss, and I know how to move forward. Do you know how it feels to have a girlfriend who you shared your life with move away to go experience her dream? Do you know how fucking painful it is to realize that she won't be with you anymore, and every waking moment you could be spending with her you'll either be spending alone or with someone else? I do. It's painful, and there's nothing you can do about the gut wrenching ache that comes with it. But you know what? I moved on. It took a hell-of-a-while, but I moved on, and I dealt with it. You know why? Because if I hadn't, I would have been a pathetic excuse for a person, and I would have acted like a sad-sack for the rest of my life. That would have been immature of me, but I decided to be mature an move on. I even have friends who I met through her now because of it, and you know what? I'm glad I moved on, because if I hadn't, I wouldn't have been able to function, and I would have felt like shit. Now, when you actually experience loss, and learn how to move on from it, you can give me shit for not being "realistic," but until then, feel free to relish in your fantasies, and act as though your thoughts are equivalent to reality. Keep hiding from real experiences, and see how well that does you. It may not be more me to judge, but it's kind of sad that you're judging my "experiences" when you don't seem to have any to base mine off of, yourself. Have fun, and be sure to do something with your life. - Yandere. |
| It's natural for a person to deny he's a failure as a human being. That's why he searches for somebody who is more miserable than himself. That's why so much animosity exists on the internet. Those who aren't able to find a more miserable person, turn to the internet and call other people losers, even though they've never met. Just to make themselves feel superior. isn't that pathetic? There's a sense of security that comes from speaking badly of someone else. But that isn't true salvation. — Tatsuhiro Satou YandereTheEmo said: The only thing more pathetic than quoting someone you know nothing about, is quoting yourself. |
| Falling in love with pathetic loser MCs who care 0 for them is also a form of female weakness. In a typical harem, the male is in control even if he is physically outmatched. The females are just objects to be conquered or rejected at will. This is also the number one reason I don't like galges: the girls are implied to be just trophies to conquer and collect. |
| Proud founder of the 20+ virgins club. Please visit my manga blog for manga updates and more! Mup da doo didda po mo muhfuggen bix nood ^ Need someone who can translate this. Pm me pls. |
Exaccus said: Mum said: Because you watch the wrong anime. This. / thread. This //double thread |
| I actually see wimpy males more than females nowadays. I don't ask sheer manliness, but some good amount of awesomeness on them. |
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| Because according to most Shonen, if you are not the MC then you are useless and can't do anything by yourself until the MC comes and rescues you. |
Dark_Divider said: You may only return to me when you have experienced sorrow, and actually know what you are talking about, because your words right now have no weight. Until then, Yan. - Dark Divider. I have lost my father in an accident when I was 15. He died in a working accident and when we came to visit his body he was still bloody and in his working clothes. Is that a loss hard enough for you? I have to agree with Yandere. My fathers loss was hard for me too, but about 1 month later when I went back to school I had to return back to life and move on. Ofc it wasnt quite as easy, but I even managed to smile sometimes. However I moved on and I can say that about 1 year later I was perfectly fine and happy again. You have to move on. Moping wont bring him back. Ofc I occasionaly still remember him and get a bit sad, but I have moved on and I am enjoying my life to the fullest now. I would say that not being able to move on is a sign of very big weakness. Even my mother who I consider to be emotionally very weak, she moved on after about 2 years. And I dont want to see her ever again cry like that, trust me you havent seen real pain if you havent seen something like the pain on my mothers face during the first week after we heard of his death. She cried for about a week almost non-stop hardly sleeping at all. But in the end she moved on. She had to, she still had my brothers to care for. They would be done for if she wouldnt have been able to move on, and she would be dead to if she kept suffering like that. |
Shiratori99 said: Falling in love with pathetic loser MCs who care 0 for them is also a form of female weakness. In a typical harem, the male is in control even if he is physically outmatched. The females are just objects to be conquered or rejected at will. This is also the number one reason I don't like galges: the girls are implied to be just trophies to conquer and collect. I'd rather be an object to be conquered than a pathetic punching bag who cops shit he doesn't deserve. And never walks away from the abuse. And never stands up to the abuse. And for all intents and purposes enables the abuse. I'm not just saying "x is worse than y", I would honestly prefer to be an object to be conquered, by far. |
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