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Oct 22, 2011 2:06 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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At first, a happy reunion with friends, but it turns out to be a war of revolution? That sign seems significant for revolution.

Maid robot-tai?...

That little ghost of little girl resembles Toori's love (not Horizon robot).

Finally another ED.
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Oct 22, 2011 5:30 PM
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Need to wait next episode for that Dragonfly cutter(蜻蛉切). =(

Katsuno is awesome . nice battle there =)

Mikawa is the only Kyokutou's representative together with Musashi that are approve as self-government state.Musashi belong to Mikawa.At this point,Kyokutou's bodyguard can't simply move around because it might result as rebellion.Anyway, if the factory's destroyed, the blame will be in Mikawa and Mikawa will loss all his authority to Seiren.

The Chimyakurou(地脈炉) is like "land pulse factory"(I not sure how to translate this). It work like nuclear power plant I guess.Its beneficial asset to the world yet its dangerous, that's why Mikawa only got robot and a few people(almost none).
The nuclear power plant's energy which is extracted from the ground is the composition that form dimension space of the world.

lol hope this little explanation will clear up some stuff =P
sigh... serious politic talk and explanation will start after the boom ...
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Oct 22, 2011 9:18 PM
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No idea what going on...
But at least the action is good
NEED MORE ACTION!!
Oct 23, 2011 1:23 AM
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Chimyakurou translates to "Ether Vein Furnace".

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Oct 23, 2011 1:52 AM
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Chimyakurou translates to "Ether Vein Furnace".

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nice info you got there.
what is Ether Vein means ?

Addition:each section of Musashi is 1080meter x 144 metter
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Ether Vein is a natural energy source for ether, although it is in higher concentrations than what is in the atmosphere. Ether, by the way, is a substance that can be used to cast spells and create stuff.

Also, another source of information is the Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon Wiki which also include more in-depth information about the series.
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This episode was crazy and I am still super excited. Some thoughts that went through as that middle block starts out firing that beam in the sky:”Holy shit! This looks like what happened long time ago in the beginning!” “Fuck the fan service and all like all said! This is what this anime should be really about!” “OMG all is going to change from this episode if people are ready for this change then they should not drop it! This is where it will start moving plot wise.” “All if freaking changing so fast it’s crazy!” “That maid is nuts!” “The maid is over 9000 EPIC!” “She can freaking change matter and rip out pieces from matter like blocks of cement from cement. Fucking crazy! Crazy!” “Oh man I really fear for the ship. What if that earth split screwed up its earthly structure? *_*” “Finally I am so T_T of happiness. Finally the ecchi may be toned down and the action in with plot!” “This is the entertainment I love and savor! This WHAT I WANTED! Heck yeah!” So you can see that I was totally hyper. Are you joking me? Look at the following,

And in the spoiler
for another version (maybe clearer) Mecha fighting a maid and she can struggle against it with such cheap stuff with a surprising resistance. Here is my point list:
  • Big thing blows and has shield that those Mecha cannot enter along with an army sent over there in the spoiler
    just all that is wild! Totally big change suddenly that had the utmost impact on my entertainment.

  • Maid firing a big cannon that looks like a plasma one through the ship, killing some crew in the spoiler
    Now that is wild! I still wonder how the hell did she have the power to activate it let alone use material to make one cause it looks made suddenly. That was one beautiful explosion of that ship. It was totally exciting!

  • Maid suddenly rips out the road and turns the blocks into something more solid to attack the Mecha in the spoiler
    I was like “ OH WHAT! WHAT!” Yeah totally unbelievable that maid is so powerful. They are androids right? Like P-01? Anyway still unbelievable really. It looks well made and I can even drool already for the BD version of this fight.

  • Mecha deploys light saber à la Gundam and fights the maid with extreme difficulties in the spoiler
    another WTF? Those 2 slabs she took are holding out against the Mecha’s light saber? That is supposed to cut almost anything really.

  • Maid proof of changing the slabs again in the spoiler
    split into four and she fights with them as I mentioned above.
So all in all the end of the episode is pretty wild. It’s crazy! I love it! This is what the show should have been about little by little not Big Bang in your face like in this episode.

On the other hand the loli ghost in the following,

Is just too adorable! So MOE. Nice addition.

Some other points
  • Futayo fan service in the spoiler
    body and breasts are in good shape so no problem there. Yeah, she is very good looking. I still liked her also when she did that pose while getting the carrot and of course there is that Sakai scene grabbing her ass flashback.Yeah that was ecchi and funny at least.

  • Wonderful comedy with all being drunk except Futayo in the spoiler
    they were all hilarious with their expression and behavior. Always a good thing for comedy.

  • Best Toori part in the spoiler
    my man freaking out was too hilarious and the way he said it was hilarious.
    I love my man! He is my adopted brother. I should so do a claim like that.


About the new ED, the end of that ED certainly shows Masazumi dragging P-01 with her and I suspect towards her home where she works. The ED is luscious Horizon and I made some pics of her but most of all image stitches in the spoiler
she really is gorgeous.
I would totally get me one to make me dinner, clean me and all. I would save a lot of time and could watch anime more. Maybe edit more later.

BTW rest of the Image Stitches I did in the spoiler
the ghost and maid look nice in it.
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Oct 23, 2011 11:06 PM
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The next "gundam-like" anime! Woo. Crazy beast fighting with the maid robos and mechas.
Oct 23, 2011 11:57 PM
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MorningGlory said:
Need to wait next episode for that Dragonfly cutter(蜻蛉切). =(

Katsuno is awesome . nice battle there =)

Mikawa is the only Kyokutou's representative together with Musashi that are approve as self-government state.Musashi belong to Mikawa.At this point,Kyokutou's bodyguard can't simply move around because it might result as rebellion.Anyway, if the factory's destroyed, the blame will be in Mikawa and Mikawa will loss all his authority to Seiren.

The Chimyakurou(地脈炉) is like "land pulse factory"(I not sure how to translate this). It work like nuclear power plant I guess.Its beneficial asset to the world yet its dangerous, that's why Mikawa only got robot and a few people(almost none).
The nuclear power plant's energy which is extracted from the ground is the composition that form dimension space of the world.

lol hope this little explanation will clear up some stuff =P
sigh... serious politic talk and explanation will start after the boom ...

Thanks as always, even though some stuff still doesn't seem to fit for me.
Oct 24, 2011 12:21 AM
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I think I've pinpointed what exactly is wrong with Horizon. For everything interesting about the show, there are two other things that are completely uninteresting. What I care most about right now are the students and the android girl, and they seem to have absolutely nothing to do with what's going on. Everything is revolving around the political characters who I don't care about in the least bit. I gave it a fair shot, but it looks like I'll have to give up. Horizon wins my personal Wasted Potential Award for the fall season.
Oct 24, 2011 12:26 AM
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wtf just happened when is the confession coming
fuck i dont understand this fcking anime
Oct 24, 2011 12:42 AM

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I think I'm finally getting this. So basically....the Testament Union is controlling everyone because they want to recreate history to get that technology to explore the world. But they guy who launched the attack (the school director's friend) doesn't want for Japan to always be in the control of the Testament Union. So under I don't know who's instructions, he launched an attack against the Union's base. His daughter, wanting to keep the floating ship's pride and title as a part of the Union re-creation of history, decided to do nothing and work with the Union instead of her father. I must admit though....I have no idea what that beam of light was :S And I probably got it all wrong....oh well there was enough action to make me keep on watching this show. I dropped Majikoi, but I'll keep this one.
Oct 24, 2011 12:54 AM

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It seems that this show assumes--no, it requires--previous or additional knowledge about the background setting, characters, and plot in order to understand the action. That is not a good thing.

While I suspect I will be seconding the nomination for the Wasted Potential Award, I probably will watch at least a couple more episodes in case things improve.
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I am so lost in this anime, i always need to read commentary so i can understand what is going on. The main characters change in each episode as they focus on different people T_T. I have limited time as well so i may nominate it for wasted potential award as well.
Oct 24, 2011 3:07 AM
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mehh.... wtf wrong with you guys keep on saying don't understand.
When Sensei say he want to boom that factory, and Muneshige guy said "Why he boom it?!!!". As if we viewer knows what he is planning to do? T.T
This whole episode only show its basic story, if you wanna know the detail. You can check the official website for it... The difficult part of the series has not reach yet, and people who watch are dying lol

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See, I really don't understand this anime AT ALL. It's good, I love the animation and the soundtrack, I'm picking up little pieces here and there of the story, but I still don't get it at all. Should I read the manga? Will that clear some things up for me?
Oct 24, 2011 4:48 AM

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Some pieces start falling in place. I feel like this is one where you have to watch the whole show to get what is going on.
Oct 24, 2011 5:13 AM

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"NINJA MAID SQUADRON ATTACK!"
Oh boy, how cliché can it get!?

Anyway, FINALLY we got to see some action. Only short at the end, though. But as I thought, at the beginning of the show, the action is pretty decent.
I hope they cut the story and character parts short now (because they are horrible) and show way more battle-stuff.

New ending was sweet.
Oct 24, 2011 6:01 AM
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"NINJA MAID SQUADRON ATTACK!"
Oh boy, how cliché can it get!?


Wait what? You call that cliché?
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"NINJA MAID SQUADRON ATTACK!"
Oh boy, how cliché can it get!?


Wait what? You call that cliché?
When you have seen Sacred Seven, it does indeed ring a little cliche but not that much. I still find the maids original.

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When you have seen Sacred Seven, it does indeed ring a little cliche but not that much. I still find the maids original.


That's what I was referring when I commented "Maid robot-tai?"
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LOVED THIS EPISODE. I am finally staring to understand this anime, after looking on some posts in this, and the previous episode threads, i finally am getting the gist of this anime, so a big THANK YOU for those who helped out!! ^_^

Yumekichi11 said:
Orix said:
"NINJA MAID SQUADRON ATTACK!"
Oh boy, how cliché can it get!?


Wait what? You call that cliché?
When you have seen Sacred Seven, it does indeed ring a little cliche but not that much. I still find the maids original.


especially if they're 100 times stronger (and sexier) O.O
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If there are highly trained female squads under the control of someone from a noble family/leaders in anime/manga, how often do they NOT dress like maids?
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Oct 24, 2011 1:48 PM

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I still have no idea what the hell is going on there
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Oct 24, 2011 2:03 PM

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Robo-maid squad seems original... Oh there's Mech-Hisui.
Oct 24, 2011 3:10 PM

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WTF!? i still don't see a plot in this... it's all just random!
Oct 24, 2011 8:54 PM
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I am so glad I'm not the only one wondering what the hell is going on. The first episode was nice, ever since then I seriously don't what what the hell is going on. Some of the female characters looks so similar that I don't know who's who. I don't understand why the one old guy betrayed (I'm still not even sure if thats what happened) the other old guy. I don't know who that blonde haired guy was. I don't understand why the guy would send his daughter off to make her own decision, I don't understand what point she makes in the story. I have NO idea what this big flame looking thing in the sky is or why they let it happen. I don't understand the point of any of the main characters...they simply havent done anything outside of the first episode...If they couldn't land a hit on 1 teachers they clearly don't stand a chance here. What the hell is up with the main character, I don't understand him at all.

It literally feels like I was dumped in an anime in the middle of something. I don't understand anything that's going on, almost like there is some previous OVA that gave some back-story that I missed out on. Too many forgettable characters, too many characters that seem like copies of another character, Weird ass story line that takes no prisoners in the learning curve. I'm straight up BLOWN AWAY by this anime.

I only continue watching this anime because the action is top notch. I don't know who's the good guy or the bad, I don't know why they're fighting...But DAMN if it doesn't look good.
Oct 24, 2011 9:34 PM

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The nonsense of this show reminds me of Super Robot Taisen. I mean, c'mon, explain SOMETHING.. =_=

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Oct 24, 2011 11:14 PM

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So who are the bad guys here?
Oct 24, 2011 11:23 PM

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So who are the bad guys here?
It depends whose ideals are you with in the long run. I will choose to be anti-testament. I have a bad feeling the interrogation unit killed and tortured many people. This is due to Kazuno mentioning seeing many people die.

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Wait what? You call that cliché?


Well, it's not always a whole squad, but ye, overall Ninja/Super/Killer Maids are pretty cliché.

Robbini said:
If there are highly trained female squads under the control of someone from a noble family/leaders in anime/manga, how often do they NOT dress like maids?

Like that.
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oh, finally someone is willing to discuss lol
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I don't understand why the one old guy betrayed (I'm still not even sure if thats what happened) the other old guy.
what is the problem of Tadakatsu follow his master wish.His master(sensei) want to blow up that factory, all he had to do is to follow even thou Tadakatsu dunno what does the "creation of world" work .
His name Tadakatsu(忠勝)= "only win no matter what". that why he will follow his master's path if it lead to victory even if he will betray Sakai.

I don't know who that blonde haired guy was.
Muneshige Tachibana, from Tres Espana.
History: ( i will further explain this later )
Currently, Tres Espana already bankrupt for 2 time.After the Reconquista, Tres Espana loss the ability receive financial support from Kyoukutou(actually is more like "international loan" ).Well, its third bankrupt will come soon( refer to history of Spain)

I don't understand why the guy would send his daughter off to make her own decision,
authority is only given to 18 years below in Kyoukutou.....


I have NO idea what this big flame looking thing in the sky is or why they let it happen.

Muneshige: I have no idea ....

they are trying to blow up that factory.
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For the time being, all I can say is that I fully agree with what Tori said at the end of the ep: "At that point, I still didn't know anything".

I can hardly understand the explanations given here, let alone how exactly was I supposed to know all that from the show, when they are NOWHERE to be found in it... a few men are drinking and having fun, then BAM! one of them is betrayed and the whole city is full of rampant mechas and homicidal robot maids with no explanation at all...

Besides that, there are a few more basic questions that the show refuses to answer from the 1st episode:

Why exactly is everyone in that school dressed up like it's Halloween in 2200 when the rest of the world is simply dressed normally?
WTF is this Dango-lookalike blob?
Why do they say "Judge" instead of "Yes"???

And a few 1000s more, but I CBA to write them all down...
Oct 25, 2011 3:57 AM

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I don't even know what's going on with the story...
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Why exactly is everyone in that school dressed up like it's Halloween in 2200 when the rest of the world is simply dressed normally?
This shows that Toori's troll is successful lol ( this can be a disguise to the Seiren showing that he is useless )

Why do they say "Judge" instead of "Yes"???

Judge, abbreviated to “Jud.” is an abbreviation of “Judgment”. It essentially means “yes”, “roger”, or an affirmative response in general. There’s also “Tes.” or Testament, which means the same.
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Finally some action. Needs more action.

The robot vs maid robot fight was so epic.

Besides that, too much talk.

ep2 and 3 was just some random school talk stuff. booring.

Good that I expect endless action from ep.5.
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Soooo... for what the characters said at the end, I suppose that the real thing starts now?

At least I hope so... I want to understand wtf is going on as I watch it... I'm tired of coming here to read what the heck happened...
Oct 25, 2011 8:11 AM

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4 episodes in and i still dont know the plot of this series. I just see random episodes to be honest. I just watch it so i can laugh at that fruit cake dude with the smile.
Oct 25, 2011 10:50 AM
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Aw, the maid can fight and why is there suddenly a ghost in this anime?
Oct 25, 2011 11:54 AM

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Since things are starting and i have to say that it was pretty interesting the head maid had some very nice skills.
I wonder what's coming next week judging from the comments from the characters it should be very interesting there world will be turned upside down.

Futayo also seems like a nice addition to the story i like her judgement in handling the situation tho i wonder what she will do after that.
There are still some things unclear in the story but i guess we will learn more during the story.
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I just dropped it. No point in keep watching this.
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I just dropped it. No point in keep watching this.

Pretty much this.
The first episode was great, and I love the character designs, but this show is just losing my interest really fast. It's poorly written and confusing, on top of that
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MorningGlory said:
oh, finally someone is willing to discuss lol
Style210 said:
I don't understand why the one old guy betrayed (I'm still not even sure if thats what happened) the other old guy.
what is the problem of Tadakatsu follow his master wish.His master(sensei) want to blow up that factory, all he had to do is to follow even thou Tadakatsu dunno what does the "creation of world" work .
His name Tadakatsu(忠勝)= "only win no matter what". that why he will follow his master's path if it lead to victory even if he will betray Sakai.

I don't know who that blonde haired guy was.
Muneshige Tachibana, from Tres Espana.
History: ( i will further explain this later )
Currently, Tres Espana already bankrupt for 2 time.After the Reconquista, Tres Espana loss the ability receive financial support from Kyoukutou(actually is more like "international loan" ).Well, its third bankrupt will come soon( refer to history of Spain)

I don't understand why the guy would send his daughter off to make her own decision,
authority is only given to 18 years below in Kyoukutou.....


I have NO idea what this big flame looking thing in the sky is or why they let it happen.

Muneshige: I have no idea ....

they are trying to blow up that factory.


THIS is exactly the problem with this show. You actually have to know how it ends before you can explain these little details to me. I just don't understand this anime. I'm really giving it fair shake in taking it this far, but I seriously feel like this anime has had an OVA put out that explains this world. Its not so much that the story is confusing (it is) but its that I feel like I have just been dropped into this world with little or No understand of it. And because the characters carry on with the understand of the world, and the anime itself does not try to explain it; I'm left with this complete blank stare.

Literally every episode, when it ends, I'm like "WTF did i watch" It doesn't make sense. You know in most anime they spend 1-2 episode or they just flat out tell you in the beginning the setting of the anime you are about to watch. That way you understand... This just hasn't happened here. When I read the MAL synopsis I get even more confused. 1 More episode and I'm done.
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Righhhttttt.... so this Mikawa prefecture or whatever the fuck they call themselves wants to rebel against this Testament Union shit? So the best course of action is to destroy their own land by setting off the plate reactor? That makes zero fucking sense.

What the fuck is a Tres Espana? Are they a different faction? Part of the Testament Union? A ship? Why the fuck are there so many characters that are just seemingly so god damn pointless to the plot?

The action was nice and all but holy fuck, this show is doing something wrong if I can't even remember one character's name.
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It's nice that something finally happened but I'm afraid its far too late for me to give a shit.
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Way too much time on old men and not enough on breast groping.
Naked ghost was cute though.
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The action in this episode was great. Looks like things are finally going to pick up in the next episodes.
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MorningGlory said:

Style210 said:

I don't understand why the guy would send his daughter off to make her own decision,
authority is only given to 18 years below in Kyoukutou.....

I thought that it was in case things went south for them (Testament people just pwn them) she could do damage control so things on the far east doesn't just collapse between the struggle =S maybe i got things wrong

Lots of flashy things, nice battles and maid fighter is a cliche (Mahoro, Maid Tai, Sacred Seven come to mind but seriously there is like a ton). The plot is actually making some sense and the all the previous chaos is somehow justified.
huh?
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Look at the score and say " WTF ..."... The anime is just getting more and more exciting ... Can't wait to see the next
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What the fuck is a Tres Espana?
I believe it's the follwing definition:
Tres España
The territory of Shimoseki, currently under provisional rule, under the warlords Ootomo and Ouchi, as well as Spain.
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Are they a different faction?
Yes, many different factions but we know of 2 main ones so far. With sub factions under them.
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Part of the Testament Union?
Yes they are part of them.
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A ship?
That one was the interrogation ship with Muneshige on it and the other ones were armed personal ones from the Testament Union's faction of armed forces along with the Mechas, which are their backbones.
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Why the fuck are there so many characters that are just seemingly so god damn pointless to the plot?
You did not think of something, that you need lots of characters to kill many off. I fear this might be the case.

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