Sword Art Online Episode 6 Discussion

tofei said:
Woah a real ghost in a virtual world! o_O

Oh well it was all pragmatic, romantic, plastic... LOL

aiNkyy said:

So if a ghost appeared in the real world would be more credible?

Vhaeraun said:


They've spoken of the power of the Cardinal System in later side stories. Apparently the system is powerful enough to take rumor and superstition and turn it into quests - a literal unlimited quest system, if you will. Given the allusion to the power of the system, it could be reasoned that the Cardinal System saved Character data - not life, but appearance and maybe even mannerisms - for use at a later date. They never really explained what the system can and cannot do, so it could just be wishful thinking.

Zombiekop said:
I was actually hoping to see more of the early stages, before the romance. To be honest, I absolutely love romance stories, but there's not enough mature passion within most anime/manga. I really hope the anime will show some love scenes. I would melt...of joy.

Scoops said:

Not sure what you had in thought, but keep in mind that it is rated " PG-13". :3

Immahnoob said:

Check out Accel World. It's rate PG-13 and it has awesome Ecchi moments.

It doesn't matter if it's rated PG-13, romance has no age limit.

tezann_t said:


Romance has no age limit indeed, but what Zombiekop was looking for ("mature passion" / "love scenes") might not be appropriate for viewers under the age of 13. Of course, he didn't say what exactly he wanted to see, but the word choice suggests at least kissing will be involved.

Also, SAO isn't an ecchi-heavy series at all, neither is AW imo, so I wouldn't count on it.

Gigarit said:
I see marriage on the horizon!

kamikaze_1996 said:
dam another sdiscussion about fanservice

i hope SAO doesn't follow the footsteps of AW, its more of a serious anime, real life and death situations unlike AW, in the LN they very rarely had any fanservice, the anime seems to be following the LN close and although they went over the top with that fanservice with silica, they seemed to stopped with it, i doubt they would carry on adding fanservice that wasn't in the LN as it would ruin the serious aspect of SAO

simply put i dont want unneeded fanservice, what i want is a story

the only part that i want fanservice on is when they reach chapter 16 because thats the best fanservice ever! :DDDDDDD

Immahnoob said:

Because they can't add random fanservice and still tell you the story...?

Seriously, even showing off cleavage is fanservice.

And AW is a good anime. I don't understand you guys.

DraconisMarch said:
Asuna is so stupidly tsundere. Barf.

So they could've just checked their friends list to tell that she wasn't dead? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Immahnoob said:
Huh, I don't care what you consider fanservice.

Fanservice as a fact includes show of cleavage.

Immahnoob said:
Again, it does not matter how you call it. Your opinion does not matter in this discussion.

FANSERVICE as A FACT includes sexual imagery. CLEAVAGE is SEXUAL IMAGERY.

CAPSLOCK SHOWS MY POINTS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Reality also has nothing to do with this, and yes, girls show off their cleavage to look attractive, if that's not their reason, then they're idiots.

I'm talking about fanservice because some guy said that they wouldn't like "mature romance" that he said could include "fanservice". And I said it could be a normal relationship.

Also, SAO would be 10x more epic if it had more fanservice.

kamikaze_1996 said:


im baffled, i was trying to emphasise that the people calling this a proper fanservice anime are ridiculous as it doesn't really present itself as one appart from ep.4,, but yea fanservice is essentially trying to please the fans with things such as sexual imagery, however not all fans are pleased by this and some don't even notice it, which was what i was trying to get across, well whatever im just gonna stop this pointless argument because i don't even know why im arguing about what fanservice is

but what i will argue about is that SAO would not be 10x as epic with more fanservice, the best example of how bad fanservice makes this show is ep.4 nuff said

kamikaze_1996 said:
^ fanservice does not make this show better, like i said haven't you seen what it did to episode 4 with silica's character, even though i may not know much about how fanservice works but i do know a lot about SAO and i know enough about fanservice to know it has done more harm than good in this anime

Immahnoob said:

What did it do?

Care to explain at least?

kamikaze_1996 said:


oh god, i really hate having to explain in detail so ill make this quick so bear with me

it ruined silica's character, in the whole episode she was worrying about her panties being shown off when in the LN she did no such thing, also the anime practically wasted time on the random plant attacks and fanservice instead of focusing on her development and her and pina's relationship, which was important in the LN as it was touching and very good

they could of shown her reviving Pina in the end and being reunited in a touching way which will emphasis how kirito has changed and it will contrast what he failed to do (reviving/saving someone important to you)

but instead they gave random plant attacks and pantyshots and wasted time that could of been given to Pina

i also hate the way they made silica googly eyed over kirito instead of actually caring about Pina, for instance imagine asuna helping kirito revive sachi and they were successful, would kirito suddenly forget his feelings for sachi and then suddenly fall for asuna without even caring for sachi?

hell no, but they did the exact same thing with silica, it was as if she instantly forgot about Pina when she was with him

bottom line, if they stopped wasting time with the fanservice, it would have been much much better,

Immahnoob said:

The relationship with the random pet was so touching...

Also, so evil of Silica in the anime to like Kirito because he saved her ass all episode. Evil.

Those panties were also slapping us everytime we didn't look at them.

Yes indeed.

Where's the fanservice again?

Immahnoob said:


Fanservice will always make things better.

Immahnoob said:

You're the single person on this site that didn't like episode 4.

tezann_t said:


No matter which way you spin it, great series don't need fan service for them to be great. Take Code Geass. I don't think a single person who's gone through the entire 2 seasons would remember the series being one full of fan service, but it's received overwhelmingly positive reviews across the board. Is fan service prevalent? Yes. But is it always a positive factor? No. If it's true that fan service is always better, then plot depth wouldn't be required at all. Simple logic.

For your information, I could be the second person on the site who didn't like episode 4. I thought it was okay, but the random tentacle grab moments were by far the least necessary fan service moments when the series is already compressed as is.

Immahnoob said:

It was an exaggeration to show that you, him and the other fifty people are just a minority.

Let's also not forget that Anime sells mostly because of Fan Service.

Immahnoob said:
You don't know the anime community then. Also, Fan Service includes anything that does not move the plot in any way. Like explosions, long fights, shoots of robots in mecha anime, violence, easter eggs etc. Adding some tits and explosions here and there won't change much, only if they don't know how to use it properly (AKA, they use entire scenes for it, when they can simply show, for example, some boobs from a distance).

And you barely joined either.

Be careful what you say on the Forums, you can easily get rustled, heed my words.

Anyways, I'm sure you can easily tag this as a Shounen even with the slight Ecchi moments.

You're a girl, I think you couldn't care less of ecchi moments in a Shounen anime, except if you're a lesbian, which I couldn't care less about.

Thus, I think your opinion is even more biased than Kamikaze's.

AsadaShino said:


thanks for the consideration but i don't need it

i know what fanservice is, and even if you say that my point still stands, just having fanservice doesn't make an anime good or better than anime which doesn't have a lot of it, nor does having more fanservice mean more sales, which is why i say your ridiculous to think it does

bias has nothing to do with this, the fact is silica's development was handled poorly, you can't deny that, if you have even read the LN you would know this actually you don't even need to read it to know it

Immahnoob said:

Who cares of the LN anyways, we're talking about the anime here...

You and two others didn't like one episode that I've seen as good to amazing. Boohoo.

Since when don't explosions and T&A don't sell? Actually, those makes the sales skyrocket if it's even a GC style anime. GC had so much fanservice that you would think haters would try to take it down. Nope, it seems it was an amazing piece of work for most people.

Also, for you thinking it isn't adding to sales. Uh huh. Let us pray the reality prayer.

Lord, please pray for the soul of this Idealist/Biased person/etc. And guide my response hand and make it strong, Lord, so he/she might learn, reality. Amen.

Her development was fine, and it's obvious they're focusing on Kirito in the anime and not the other usually useless characters that nobody cares of.

Immahnoob said:
Majority of people being you and two other people against the other 407 that voted 5/5 for EP 4. Or more like, you + 25 people vs 554 people that voted over 2/5.

And I wanted to say CG, my bad.

And you're actually missing the point, too bad you don't understand. MOST people WANT fanservice. Nobody cares of the minority that you are part of. MAL actually IS a minority of the fan base. And only a handful of forumers actually hate fan service or deem it as pointless. Also, DVD/Blu-Ray sales for good story and ecchi always skyrocketed, Bakemonogatari as example.

Oh no, because this isn't mainstream? I'm sorry, have you seen the hype and how slightly overrated SAO is? I'm sorry, you just came in today, what do you know. You're also a female, and factually speaking, females don't get as aroused as men from sexual imagery. Also, it's not a shoujo, thus there's no fan service for you.

Also, one good example of awesome ecchi anime that actually forwarded it's story properly. HotD.

When people are watching this, they want to be entertained, story, character development and of course, the never ending dream that is fan service.

You could quit talking at all, you're full on bad at this stuff. That episode showed us enough of Silica's character and relationship with Pina. I think I did state that fan service does not forward the story most of the times, even if here it was used to slap you in the face that Silica actually likes Kirito, a lot. And it's obvious that even from what she said the last time, that the episode was actually more focused on Kirito.

Immahnoob said:
There's no point in talking to you, as you don't really understand how business goes. I'm referring to the minority out of the minority. This anime forums are a minority and the ones that hate fanservice out of this minority are also are a handful. Also, you're more of a child then I thought. OFF TOPIC: You're*

The fanservice wasn't even much, also, that fight they had was also fanservice if you didn't knew.

Fanservice suits any type of anime, what the heck are you talking about?

Of course it does, most females I've met on these forums have something in common, they hate fanservice for some reason. Scientifically speaking, it's also a tad normal. I don't know of any other females, thus, this here is biased except for the scientific part where females really have a harder time at getting aroused from sexual imagery. Who cares how much you read...? You do understand that this is the anime discussion, it's THE ANIME DISCUSSION, it's NOT the LN discussion. Who cares of the main story of the LN? It's the ANIME. ANIME. ANIME. ANIME. They adapted Silica well enough.

Many anime are meant to be fanservice anime, but mostly fail, HotD didn't, that's what I meant. Also, you think somebody cares if it's PG-13 or R+? No, they don't.

If you call that a lot of fanservice in episode 4, then porn always involves orgies with around 200 men and women in a stadium at the same time. Always. Also, explosions in action movies involve an explosion ever five seconds. I like your hyperbole, not as much as I like mine.

No, it won't ruin anything, actually. I think more fan service would get rid of people like you watching it and get some new fans that know what they're talking about.

You know, I'm not looking for fanservice to masturbate at. I'm sorry if I gave you that impression, but no, if I wanted to do that, I'd watch porn. Instead, I'm just being open minded and also thinking about how fanservice used properly in no matter how much excess can allure more fans and make the show better. More appeasing.

No, it didn't drop, actually it raised by 0.02, only lately it dropped by 0.05.

Immahnoob said:
The votes don't lie.

Also, how does it do more harm than good...? I can't see how appeasing the fan can be bad in any way.

:) As you can see, Ep 4 against 6 for example. It seems the votes are going down, 5/5 is not the only option now. Also Ep 4 seems to have the highest votes on 5/5. Except for Ep 1, but that will always be awesome if it started awesome. And it really did give a good impression.

kamikaze_1996 said:


*facepalm* the newcomer here pointed out why it was bad soo many times even wrote it in bold yet you chose to ignore it, you really are blind and deluded

Also, she already pointed out why the polls are useless in this argument aswell,

also you can't compare the polls when they have been released in different times, the episode 4 poll has been open for longer therefore more people have voted, also the episodes content are completely different

i could very well say that episode 1 had no ecchi fanservice therefore received a higher vote than episode 4, when thats completely absurd as there are too many variables to consider