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Sep 21, 2012 4:51 AM
#51
| I think Minerva saved Lector because of her wierd abilites (how she teleported or w/e happy from nowhere into her arms) and her aim was just to provoke sting into taking action against that weakling of a Master (to me it was pretty obvious that he's all talk, I mean the difference in that guild were the 5 strongest members, popularity and strength- if the master was stronger from all of them how come they were a good for nothing guild before the timeskip?) As to why, most of you already stated she has some plans and she's planning to take over. I guess with this I can really imagine her on the same level with Erza. Although Erza will beat the crap outta her, ofc. Next, I'm also in favour of that girl being Lucy, I won't repeat what others said why though. Third, I personally think Polyuska isn't Grandine, because well Grandine can easilly communicate through minds and who says other dragons can't? (reffering to Igneel) I mean, considering the fact that the dragons are from the start of the series the "big bosses" around it would be pretty wierd for them to not have a way to stay in tune. As to why I think it's wrong to assume Igneel finds everything through Grandine is that when Grandine comes to him (in that world where they live in) he tells her to go away and asks her why she's here. So, no. I think the all-knowing thing would be more fitting if it has something to do with Natsu's scarf or it was imbued in the dragon slayer techniques. It's possible that the dragon that thought a person the techniques can see everything the person goes through, in my opinion. Finally, what I'm most interested is WHAT will Jellal and CS in all do now that they know the situation better than others. |
| This world is mine. I think this world may even just be a long, long dream I'm watching. You guys may just be illusions, and it can't be proven whether or not you really exist either. In other words, this world was created with me at the center. So what will happen if I die? I don't know. My imagination isn't very creative; I just can't imagine myself dying. In other words, there is no way this world can completely disappear. But if I die, then everyone will disappear. I am the only one in this world who won't disappear. The rest are just people I see as if in a dream. -Claire Stanfield, Baccano! |
Sep 21, 2012 4:56 AM
#52
| Loved this chapter!! I was hoping they would show us who the girl was but anyway I hope lester didn't die, why would you want to kill of an exceed/cat!! I LOVE FAIRY TAIL! |
Sep 21, 2012 5:05 AM
#53
| F*** you Gemma...You need to die >:( Why you killed Lector?? T_T Even though I want him dead, I believe he isn't.He just got surprised from Sting's attack. Also I think that Minerva is planning something...She said ''Good'' after Sting attacked her father.Which children says ''good'' when someone attacks their father if they don't wanted someone to attacked them? The girl is from the future and she hasn't her right arm.I am sure she is Lucy, but who knows. The Dragon King next...I can't wait!!! And yeah 300 chapters of FT :D |
Sep 21, 2012 5:05 AM
#54
| Something I tend to do is not comment on my favorite long running mangas but I taught that i might break the chain with FT 300th chapter release. A few things to note why would Jellal leave the hooded girl alone? I think he diffidently believe that whatever he does now would have little difference without 'hoods' help. And i love playing the guessing who's under that mask game like i did with my friends with Obito being Tobi. I'm gonna guess and say that I think 'hoods'(girl under the hood that's missing an arm)' is Lucy. I'm willing to argue my point but its just a guess so don't be to hard on me but i will say that it is POSSIBLE! |
Sep 21, 2012 5:11 AM
#55
Darklight0303 said: That kind of omniscience about everything occuring in their world is not part of the job description. That we do not know. Darklight0303 said: Also remember that Igneel was bluntly ORDERING Grandine to not interfere with the humans. That to me is more than enough reason for her to put up the act of Polyushka, the old hag who hates humanity. A valid point indeed. I can't counter this but still it's not definite as data that because Igneel sais so Grandine has been puting up such an act. Should Polyuska be revealed as the real Grandine the fact that you mentioned could be used to empower the explanation but I can't consider it as a stand-alone valid proof. Darklight0303 said: Also if the smell thing was the same for both version of a character, how come Natsu never sniffed out the king as Master? It's a falacy to presume two versions of the same character carry the same scent. Even Wendy said Jellal had a slightly diferent scent from the one she knew who in fact was Mystogan. She didn't say Polyushka felt slightly different from Grandine. She said it felt like Grandine. Wendy was obviously emotionally charged at that momment, details in smell could have easily sliped through, therefore I don't consider the smell as a detrimental factor. Btw I don't really understand that part of King/Master/Natsu, I'm missing something , please elaborate if it is important. Darklight0303 said: 2-Yes that is also certainly possible. But again if the goal of the time travel route is to stop this event from occuring at all, then chances are they too will survive since without the danger there would be no sacrifice. We'll have to wait and see. Maybe the future will change but there will still be sacrifices. It would be a bitter sweet note but it's possible. Indeed we can only wait, I just said that killing off some secondary would be chalenging for the characters of the main cast and at the same time it wouldn't be particularly hurtful for the story. |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Sep 21, 2012 5:23 AM
#56
| 1 & 2 I'll concede on these two while we wait for more information. Still will stick to my own theory until brutally destroyed by Mashima himself or some massively contradicting piece of evidence. 3: I just looked back in the manga and indeed that talk never happened. In the anime they were talking about alternate versions in Edolas so Master asked Natsu what his other self was like and after a bit of thinking he said Master felt similar to the king just a bit. In fact they have the same VA. Also if we want to include anime as evidence, the voice of the glowing avatar form that spoke to Igneel. It's the same as Polyushka. |
Sep 21, 2012 5:26 AM
#57
Darklight0303 said: 1 & 2 I'll concede on these two while we wait for more information. Still will stick to my own theory until brutally destroyed by Mashima himself or some massively contradicting piece of evidence. Agreed. Darklight0303 said: 3: I just looked back in the manga and indeed that talk never happened. In the anime they were talking about alternate versions in Edolas so Master asked Natsu what his other self was like and after a bit of thinking he said Master felt similar to the king just a bit. Also if we want to include anime as evidence, the voice of the glowing avatar form that spoke to Igneel. It's the same as Polyushka. Mystogan and Jelal also used the same VA |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Sep 21, 2012 5:38 AM
#58
| And Wendy said that Jellal had a similar yet slightly different scent from Mystogan. |
Sep 21, 2012 5:41 AM
#59
| Are you supporting me right now o_O? Jelal and mystogan , same VA, different people. Polyuska and Grandine, same VA, same people?? I already replied about the smell part, besides Wendy didn't realise Jelal's scent was different right away. In the begining she was crying rivers saying she wanted to help him no matter what and only chapters later she said "now that I think about it he smelled a little different". |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Sep 21, 2012 5:50 AM
#60
| A bit of both I think. Yet she has not had any such moment with Polyushka and she's been around the old lady a lot during this tournament. Until she does I am not going to dismiss her sense of smell. |
Sep 21, 2012 5:54 AM
#61
Darklight0303 said: A bit of both I think. Yet she has not had any such moment with Polyushka and she's been around the old lady a lot during this tournament. Until she does I am not going to dismiss her sense of smell. Yes because by the time she composed herself Polyuska already appeared. Also, the duality of opposite characters between Edolas/Earthland is pretty evident in this case. I know you said that this might be an act. But I think so far it's data proving what has been said |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Sep 21, 2012 6:02 AM
#62
| The anime has proven so many times that its cannon, before the manga even establishes something. Faust is indeed Edo-Makarov. Now on to Polyusica Is there any reason for her to react the way she did at the end of 259? http://mangafox.me/manga/fairy_tail/v31/c259/23.html Look at her eyes too. We can't rule out that she is not Grandine herself. |
Sep 21, 2012 6:06 AM
#63
| Not ruling out, just going with the flow. |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Sep 21, 2012 6:10 AM
#64
| I really hope that Minerva used her magic on Lector to make it looked like he died so Sting would rage and kill that asshole so that way she could take over the guild. I hate her just as much as the old ST master so I hope she dies too. =P 5/5 |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
Sep 21, 2012 6:18 AM
#65
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: The anime has proven so many times that its cannon, before the manga even establishes something. Faust is indeed Edo-Makarov. Now on to Polyusica Is there any reason for her to react the way she did at the end of 259? http://mangafox.me/manga/fairy_tail/v31/c259/23.html Look at her eyes too. We can't rule out that she is not Grandine herself. There is also this page where she's smiling kindly after Wendy calls her Grandine again http://mangafox.me/manga/fairy_tail/v31/c260/11.html |
Sep 21, 2012 6:27 AM
#66
| Dunno if I should feel sorry for that Sabertooth dragonslayer... My hatred towards all Sabercrap members after what they did to Lucy is something unbelievable. Still, I'm glad that fool master was killed by the dragonslayer although I'm kind of worried that Minerva smiled. |
Sep 21, 2012 6:36 AM
#67
| About Lecter, his death kinda seemed too fast and without any meaning. I'm not talking about the character I'm talking about Hiro himself not giving enough emphasis. I mean , the panels of his death were suspiciously small (remember Shimon, he was pretty much a noone and yet his death was at least half-a-page-panel, while others get double-pages). And then I saw this: kiDnameDSkia said: I think Minerva saved Lector because of her wierd abilites (how she teleported or w/e happy from nowhere into her arms) and her aim was just to provoke sting into taking action against that weakling of a Master. I'm positive that this is the case. Props to you Skia |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Sep 21, 2012 6:37 AM
#68
| did anyone else notice that the hooded girl is wearing sandals? i've never seen lucy wear sandals, she usually wearing knee high boots. which makes me think its not lucy but maybe lisanna? |
Sep 21, 2012 6:37 AM
#69
| The way I see it is, Sting is getting led down a Vader type route by Minerva. |
Sep 21, 2012 6:41 AM
#70
oliverg12345 said: did anyone else notice that the hooded girl is wearing sandals? i've never seen lucy wear sandals, she usually wearing knee high boots. which makes me think its not lucy but maybe lisanna? Lucy is wearing what seems to be sandals in this very chapter actually |
Sep 21, 2012 6:45 AM
#71
| ok i missed that bit xD but i never seen her wear them before, just stuck me as odd, but i still think that hooded girl could be lisanna |
Sep 21, 2012 6:47 AM
#72
| Lisanna is not part of the eclipse plan tho. While Lucy is meant to be a unwilling component of it. This figure knows about the Eclipse plan and that's top secret. So only way to know about that is living through it and I doubt anyone will figure out its existence once the violence breaks out. Heck Levy sure didn't mention it. |
Sep 21, 2012 6:53 AM
#73
| people are posting about it being lucy because she was crying watching natsu's fight, and because levy was writing to her. but levy could've been writing like lucy was to her dead mother, just writing a letter for closure or somet. and tbh it could be any female that knows natsu and to give jellal that much of a shock it might've been erza, and people could find out about the eclipse plan, for all we know it could be broadcast across the whole city in the next couple of chapters, highly unlikely but it could still happen :P |
Sep 21, 2012 6:55 AM
#74
| also lisanna doesnt need to be part of the plan if she came from the future im sure the rest of the guild would find out about the plan after it happend, like a survivor could tell them. and lisanna used some magic maybe a secret fairy magic 1st master never disclosed, to go back in time? |
Sep 21, 2012 6:55 AM
#75
| Nooo, dam it!! I wanted to see who the hooded girl was!! I knew Mashima would do this to us, but was hoping he wouldn't!! Now I have to think about who it is more T_T Meh, I don't like Sting, Rogue, Lector, and Frosche. They came out of nowhere and talked big. They got what they deserved IMO. Actually, they might deserve more... |
Sep 21, 2012 6:57 AM
#76
oliverg12345 said: people are posting about it being lucy because she was crying watching natsu's fight, and because levy was writing to her. but levy could've been writing like lucy was to her dead mother, just writing a letter for closure or somet. and tbh it could be any female that knows natsu and to give jellal that much of a shock it might've been erza, and people could find out about the eclipse plan, for all we know it could be broadcast across the whole city in the next couple of chapters, highly unlikely but it could still happen :P There is plenty more than that but fine if you want to jump up to such poorly thought out conclusions without considering ALL of the pieces and actually BOTHERING to make them fit, it's your choice. Just don't start crying out troll when it turns out you were wrong. The cold hard truth is, Lisanna is a character that has no place in the story mashima thought up. The editor made him bring her back and aside from that he shows zero intent to give her any major plot importance. I understand you like her but look at the cold hard facts. |
Sep 21, 2012 7:01 AM
#77
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: dashiawia said: ST's master is a real dick for killing Lector like that. Honestly I wouldn't mind if he got owned right there by Sting, but I doubt he did. The guy got shot through the chest with a holy lazer, bleeding from the injury itself and his mouth. Unless he has massive stamina or great healing, he is down for the count. this is fairy tail... |
| Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead? |
Sep 21, 2012 7:08 AM
#78
jimbob1141 said: Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: dashiawia said: ST's master is a real dick for killing Lector like that. Honestly I wouldn't mind if he got owned right there by Sting, but I doubt he did. The guy got shot through the chest with a holy lazer, bleeding from the injury itself and his mouth. Unless he has massive stamina or great healing, he is down for the count. this is fairy tail... Simon says hi from the bottom of the crater that is now the tower of paradise |
Sep 21, 2012 7:12 AM
#79
| @jimbob Shimon died and at very least he was more important than Genma is currently. From the look of things Genma is a stepstone for Minerva's goals (w/e they are..they could be sth simple like taking over the guild) @oliverg Erza is too tall to be the hooded girl |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Sep 21, 2012 7:13 AM
#80
| Simon also didn't have a gaping hole through his chest so yea I think Gemma's done and cooked |
Sep 21, 2012 7:25 AM
#81
Darklight0303 said: The cold hard truth is, Lisanna is a character that has no place in the story mashima thought up. The editor made him bring her back ...... Is this a verified fact or your assumption? It makes sense but I would like verification if it is true |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Sep 21, 2012 7:27 AM
#82
Kanic said: Darklight0303 said: The cold hard truth is, Lisanna is a character that has no place in the story mashima thought up. The editor made him bring her back ...... Is this a verified fact or your assumption? It makes sense but I would like verification if it is true It was in an interview Mashima gave. I'll see if I can find the translation again. |
Sep 21, 2012 7:29 AM
#83
Sep 21, 2012 7:30 AM
#84
| Then again you might have missed Minerva's smirk from the shadows |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Sep 21, 2012 7:30 AM
#85
Zell182 said: So by that logic the master of Sabertooth is way weaker than Natsu. Sting will probably be the new master and become mega-evil or something cliche like that. The real master is Minerva though. She had the "JUST AS PLANNED" look this chapter. |
Sep 21, 2012 7:51 AM
#86
| O.o What impressed me was Lector, Does he really disappear? I;m thinking that maybe he was teleported to another place. Or maybe not. |
Sep 21, 2012 7:58 AM
#87
| ^Some people stated(and me supporting it) that Minerva warped him |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Sep 21, 2012 8:10 AM
#88
| yup, I'm pretty sure Minerva is just manipulating the whole ST for her future actions...Well, everything here is still just speculation though. I'm still kinda phased as to what role will the other guilds have when the eclypse apocalypse something plan starts to go into motion...And I'm guessing Jellal could have some mega cool "I'll sacrifice myself in the last moment for a better future live on FAIRY TAIL Erza I love you" moment, since he's one of the most exploited characters outside FT and he's hated around the world. Crime Sorciere surviving with him would seem a little boring and anticlimatic...But that's just an opinion that has little to do with the chapter. (and I didn't bring in the mermaid heel and all that) What I'm thinking about future ST is that Rogue and Sting WON'T join Fairy Tail, they'll either be under Minerva or join Crime Sorciere: fact 1--> if Sting really killed the master, he is now officially an outlaw (unless Minerva covers it up for him, but a leak of information is sure to happen eventually since all the guild members were watching, but she can prob. blackmail them somehow) where do all outlaws that are in fact good-hearted and have lot of respect towards Natsu/FT go? Yes, correct. Well, Rogue joining him is a given since he's something like his sidekick lol. Now I rly said everything coming to my mind about this chapter. |
| This world is mine. I think this world may even just be a long, long dream I'm watching. You guys may just be illusions, and it can't be proven whether or not you really exist either. In other words, this world was created with me at the center. So what will happen if I die? I don't know. My imagination isn't very creative; I just can't imagine myself dying. In other words, there is no way this world can completely disappear. But if I die, then everyone will disappear. I am the only one in this world who won't disappear. The rest are just people I see as if in a dream. -Claire Stanfield, Baccano! |
Sep 21, 2012 8:32 AM
#89
![]() Ecchi levels are too high for tv series |
Sep 21, 2012 8:41 AM
#90
| That master got what he deserved. Can't wait for next one. |
Sep 21, 2012 9:21 AM
#91
| RIP Lector. YOU BETTER NOT COME BACK BECAUSE YOU GOT OBLITERATED! I'm talking to you Hiro. |
Sep 21, 2012 10:00 AM
#93
DuroDeMatar said: That master got what he deserved. Can't wait for next one. i say the bastard needs to suffer more that way too quick |
Sep 21, 2012 10:10 AM
#94
| Sting becoming the new Master would be good.. killing the cat was a wrong move old bastard.. i think they will kinda help Natsu if there will be a dragon killing time soon... |
Sep 21, 2012 10:13 AM
#95
Sep 21, 2012 10:18 AM
#96
| cat's death was true mashima-style killing. Reminds me of the deaths he already did in his previous work. Fast, brutal, merciless. Makes me partially fearful that the guy will snap again and start killing people in his manga, as it certainly has became darker and more intense since the timeskip. Yukari_Hiwada said: That's it? For Jellal and mysterious person's meeting, I mean. Gah! Mashima kills his characters once in a blue moon. He kills another one after ages... BUT WHY A CAT? WHYYYY. Dammit, there's a limit to being cruel. My heart ;A; Read RAVE. Mashima LOVES killing characters in most cruel and sadistic fashion possible, making them suffer pointlessly before it happens. -MgZ_ said: How the fuck can a member defeat a master. Anti-Climatic chapter. Nothing really happened except the Sabertooth part. Because it was always obvious that the girl who interrupted Natsu's fight was the true master? Me and few others already put that theory out there when Genma VS Natsu happened, but people were then "naaah, Genma would have owned natsu". Darklight0303 said: jimbob1141 said: Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: dashiawia said: ST's master is a real dick for killing Lector like that. Honestly I wouldn't mind if he got owned right there by Sting, but I doubt he did. The guy got shot through the chest with a holy lazer, bleeding from the injury itself and his mouth. Unless he has massive stamina or great healing, he is down for the count. this is fairy tail... Simon says hi from the bottom of the crater that is now the tower of paradise While entirety of RAVE death count is waving in the distance. Just because Mashima made it a point to not kill many characters before(considering this is anti-depression therapy for him), it does not mean that he won't. |
Sep 21, 2012 10:56 AM
#97
| @Fai I still consider Lecter to be warped by Minerva. It would allow her to be on good terms with Sting and it seems to me that she has ulterior motives concerning him and his powers. Genma-dead, Lecter-not dead, these are my bets |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Sep 21, 2012 11:03 AM
#98
Kanic said: @Fai I still consider Lecter to be warped by Minerva. It would allow her to be on good terms with Sting and it seems to me that she has ulterior motives concerning him and his powers. Genma-dead, Lecter-not dead, these are my bets Definitely likely. What I'm really curious of is just how powerful she is really. Is she really a threat to fairy tail? She would have to be leagues ahead of the rest of ST to really pose a threat to natsu,erza, laxus etc. And does it even matter? How do they play into the bigger threat of the Eclipse plan right now ? |
Sep 21, 2012 11:26 AM
#99
| Holy shit.Sting, im starting to like you.Rogue face expression was priceless too :D finally this fking bastard got what he deserved.I hate seeing smiling Minerva though >_> i want to see her begging for life. Anyway, i think im being kinda sure the girl is future Lucy.It would be really cruel for her to loose arm though.She loves writing etc. poor her, if shes really this person :< 5/5 cant wait to see more. |
Sep 21, 2012 11:46 AM
#100
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: ![]() Ecchi levels are too high for tv series Could you please spoiler next time? Anyways, I have one word to describe this chapter.... lolwat. Mashima needs to get his power levels straight. 4/5 |
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