Accel World (light novel)
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Jun 12, 2012 3:38 AM
#51
SWO happened before the AW, and there is a short story in novel about Kirito battling Haruyuki. and this happened after a year and a half the SAO accident happened. Kirito using a "4th generation direct link testing model" and accidentally declare battle againts Haruyuki (SilverCrow). In the short story, He still mention about his mother and he was stilling eating the meal made by his sister. So it's not possible that KWH is the daugther of Kirito and asuna. Proof: http://book.sfacg.com/Novel/6204/38825/279728/(chiense raw) As for Kuroyuki hime: her past comrade call her Satchan, but...sachiko doesn't fit as in Kanji wise |
Jun 12, 2012 7:01 AM
#52
Jun 14, 2012 2:43 PM
#54
Hmm... if they really can't use that nametag thing to fake their names, maybe her name really is 黒雪姫 but read in a different way than kuroyuki-hime? Like...dunno... Kokubuki Hime? ^^'' |
Sep 14, 2012 6:42 PM
#55
anyone see the resemblance or family connection? kirito and asuna are the parents of kuroyukihime? just by googling around i found out im not the only one who think first about this too Accel World (AW) timeline starts at 2047 Sword Art Online (SAO) timeline starts at 2022 the year gap is 25 kirito is 16 in SAO asuna is 17 in SAO kuroyukihime is 14 in AW so according to those numbers kuroyukihime was born on year 2033 and asuna at that year 2033 is 28 years old kuroyukihime's avatar is full of swords and is fast like asuna and kirito are very good at kuroyukihime uses vopral strike on episode 23 of AW and i heard in SAO that ability is use too kuroyukihime behaves like a boss and smart just like kirito and asuna too kuroyukihime's hair color and eye color resembles the mixture of kirito and asuna too SAO and AW have same author and both story have same concept of virtual reality game and kuroyukihime's real name is still a mystery so maybe this will be a big revelation later? |
Sep 15, 2012 4:41 AM
#56
What the... Not this one again. Even then, did the Light Novel just mention that KYH had an older sister? So how would you explain THAT? |
Sep 15, 2012 5:53 AM
#57
ninjaluc79 said: What the... Not this one again. Even then, did the Light Novel just mention that KYH had an older sister? So how would you explain THAT? after reading Wikipedia about White Cosmos the White King that is one year older sister of Kuroyukihime i do not see any disapproving about that i mean it just 1 year difference between their age so that just imply that Kirito and Asuna has 2 siblings that both are good with swords... level 9 White King may represent Asuna and level 9 Black King may represent Kirito... and that adds another small evidence i mean Asuna(White) is one year older than Kirito(Black) too lol but still im not saying im correct its just that the amount of trivial evidences are growing and increases the percentage of possibility of this speculation to be true |
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Sep 16, 2012 2:03 AM
#58
So, if BL is a Dark Knight, then WK is a Paladin? But WK does strike more as a White Mage than a Paladin, though. |
Sep 16, 2012 2:25 AM
#59
j0x said: anyone see the resemblance or family connection? kirito and asuna are the parents of kuroyukihime? just by googling around i found out im not the only one who think first about this too Accel World (AW) timeline starts at 2047 Sword Art Online (SAO) timeline starts at 2022 the year gap is 25 kirito is 16 in SAO asuna is 17 in SAO kuroyukihime is 14 in AW so according to those numbers kuroyukihime was born on year 2033 and asuna at that year 2033 is 28 years old kuroyukihime's avatar is full of swords and is fast like asuna and kirito are very good at kuroyukihime uses vopral strike on episode 23 of AW and i heard in SAO that ability is use too kuroyukihime behaves like a boss and smart just like kirito and asuna too kuroyukihime's hair color and eye color resembles the mixture of kirito and asuna too SAO and AW have same author and both story have same concept of virtual reality game and kuroyukihime's real name is still a mystery so maybe this will be a big revelation later? And to add on top of that, the Nerve Gear system from SAO was blatantly mentioned in the previous episode of Accel World. If you also read the SAO LNs, if you pay close enough attention the technology starts to mirror that of neurolinkers as the story progresses. There's also reference to the "Acceleration of Human sense, etc. etc." the makes AW possible. So yeah...maybe the Author wants to keep worlds separate. But he's doing pretty crappy job at it. |
Sep 16, 2012 3:39 AM
#60
wenchance said: And to add on top of that, the Nerve Gear system from SAO was blatantly mentioned in the previous episode of Accel World. If you also read the SAO LNs, if you pay close enough attention the technology starts to mirror that of neurolinkers as the story progresses. There's also reference to the "Acceleration of Human sense, etc. etc." the makes AW possible. So yeah...maybe the Author wants to keep worlds separate. But he's doing pretty crappy job at it. im not a novel reader but great to know!!! |
Sep 16, 2012 8:11 PM
#61
I find it hard to believe he intends for both of these novels to be "different" universes. He's basically made pretty concrete references to SAO in Accel World and references to Accel World in SAO. I believe in Episode 22 there was an images of both the nervegear and SAO when he was researching Noumi. I find that a little strange for a history of the neurolinker to include that...but they are different worlds / universes. The end of SAO as mentioned before, they start saying the systems Kirito is testing start getting into time manipulation and acceleration, and I believe even flat out say they were the original systems that lead up to the accelerated world. I also believe (though I haven't quite gotten far enough) that both Asuna and Kirito have the influence to have created or been major roles in the creation of Brain Burst by the end - as I remember seeing mentions of Asuna taking over Recto but I could be mistaken, and that Kirito was testing these new accelerated time devices before their release. The school him and Asuna went to also has a high likelyhood of being the one Princess Snow Black went to. Due to the fact that it was a school that gave out and was sort of on the bleeding edge of it's time. Also - nearly all of her moves are tributes to Kirito, at least her incarnate system. Vorpal strike was Kirito's favorite one hand sword move. Starburst Stream was essentially his ultimate. Given the fact that she has a sister who is white, my guess is her moves are less akin to asunas due to this, and as such that's why one of her specials is "Death by Piercing" and a lot of the moves she uses are very akin to the fencing style Asuna used...though nothing directly linked like to Kirito. The color of her avatar being black, as well as both hands being bladed (twin swords). Her story also is extremely close to that of Kirito's. By extremely close I more mean her incarnate abilities are mirrors of Kirito and her story is similar. She became the traitor king to progress the game and the like and exiled herself to complete it. Much like Kirito did only to protect the people so that the game could continue to be cleared. From the way she talks she was a solo player who didn't get along well with her friends (the beach trip with Megumi showed that with actual relationships she was probably just as awkward as Kirito and thus dove into gaming to hide from that). Thus the scars / ambitions being similar and the way the incarnate system picks it's abilities make it pretty obvious if she isn't his kid that she is meant to be in some way related to him. The fact that her name is similiar - though regretablly I'm not super familiar with Kanji and by that I mean nothing, but could it be in reference to Yui, though not directly I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't name one of their kids that? Also whoever made the comments about a 1 year older sister, who was white and most likely will be more akin to Asuna is probably correct. For most of the reasons he stated. I'm pretty sure that even if he wrote that, that his goal is not at all to keep these worlds seperate. There are FAR too many references to the other in both of them to be kept as separate entities. The reason her name is hidden is not for mystery, but my guess is because it ruins the reveal of them being related, and my guess is probably that Kirito / Asuna created brain burst and she wants to "win" so badly because she wants to understand why her parents created such a game. Most likely because Kirito had respect for Kayabe and actually agreed with the idea of a VRMMORPG being reality and this was his attempt to make a game-like reality. Though this is just my speculation. I just find the claim that these worlds are separate to be a blatant lie. |
SuiaerlSep 16, 2012 8:38 PM
Sep 16, 2012 10:35 PM
#62
Seeing the OVA, seems like Haruyuki already know her name. But then, she's the vice president of student council, so it's hard to belief many would find it difficult to look for her real name. BTW, if in the end it's revealed that their real world is also a VR and Kuroyukihime real name is Kirito, would anyone's head be blown ? :D bruce19 said: Kuroyuki ==> KuronekoHer real name is also Ruri Gokou Close enough XD MorningGlory said: Sachi, after the name of someone who changed daddy's view of life. :DThe wind element like to call her Sacchan.... The VA for Kuroyukihime is Sachika Its just a guess LOL Now if the elder sister's name is Yui… |
nseikaSep 16, 2012 10:39 PM
Sep 16, 2012 10:39 PM
#63
I'm pretty sure we've been over this before but, didn't the author of sao (same as accel world) say there is no direct connection between characters? You guys keep speculating because you want it to be not because there is reason for it to be. When you have the same author similarities are inevitable your going to see them regardless. |
Sep 16, 2012 11:06 PM
#64
MidnightPride said: I'm pretty sure we've been over this before but, didn't the author of sao (same as accel world) say there is no direct connection between characters? You guys keep speculating because you want it to be not because there is reason for it to be. When you have the same author similarities are inevitable your going to see them regardless. I did in fact read the statement that he did in fact say that the two stories took place in different worlds / universes. I do agree in a lot of ways I probably am looking for things to fit a mold. Though I'm not exactly sure I believe it just because he said it in an after word. He could have meant when he originally started writing, or that cross-over arc located within that chapter. Also - granted similarities in stories and characters are bound to happen when written by the same author. Though for someone who created basically an entirely new world and mechanics every 2 novels in SAO and a constantly changing world in AW...for two characters to have identical moves...is a bit strange. He easily could have come up with a unique move list for her duel avatar. Thus between the lack of originality (from someone who clearly doesn't lack it) as well as blatant references in both places makes it a bit shakey to just say "he said so thus it's unpossible". I could give you the same name / etc being similar being a homage thing. You could argue the references to Accel World being what comes later in SAO also a homage to try and make Accel World more popular (as far as I can tell SAO seems to be doing significantly better as far as viewing / interest of viewers goes, but that might just be in the US). Though the reference from Accel World to SAO in an extremely recent episode wouldn't make a ton of sense. It being a predecessor that is. As the person previously stated, for someone who is "saying" they aren't linked he sure is doing a terrible job at it. From anything I can tell when he writes this is that it's not like this author to leave huge flaws in logic like that without a reason. Thus, yes, parts of it are I think it'd make the story much more interesting if it were true so I am trying to fit it. Though it's a little sketch for someone to say they aren't related than brazenly put references in both series saying one was the predecessor to the other. Call it may, but that's a bit non-logical, and for someone who tends to write thinking rather far ahead I find a bit more then coincidence. Edit: I actually find it more suspicious that he felt compelled to say the worlds aren't related. He is intentionally trying to create mystery around what her name is, for some reason somewhere along the lines. Saying they are separate worlds in a way runs contradictory to that purpose, as it removes this whole chain of discussion people would think / debate. Much like I doubt it's not a coincedence her abilities mirror Kirito's I don't think the omission of her name so many times intentionally to the reader is something trivial like they want her to seem mysterious, but more because it's an interesting plot twist that relates to the origin of the game. hence why her (princess snow black) sister is an "origin" burst linker. |
SuiaerlSep 16, 2012 11:21 PM
Sep 17, 2012 7:39 PM
#66
What the. NO! Why did you spoil us!?! Hehe, just kidding. Her real name is still unknown as of date, anyway. |
Sep 17, 2012 10:06 PM
#67
Sep 17, 2012 10:09 PM
#68
Wouldn't be surprise if it's some sort of variation of Yui. |
Sep 21, 2012 6:40 PM
#69
last episode of Accel World season 1 revealed that Kuroyukihime has a nickname of Sachan so that means she is named after Sachi from Sword Art Online? i smell the Kirito and Kuroyukihime connection getting strong with that |
Sep 21, 2012 8:35 PM
#70
Adding mud to the discussion If that's so, why did her parents give it to the second child and not her elder sister ? :D |
Sep 21, 2012 11:23 PM
#71
nseika said: Adding mud to the discussion If that's so, why did her parents give it to the second child and not her elder sister ? :D the elder sister is probably named Yui |
Sep 22, 2012 1:35 AM
#72
Assuming that she really is Kirito and Asuna's daughter like many suggested... Isn't it obvious? Sachi!! |
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Sep 22, 2012 3:36 AM
#73
Sep 22, 2012 4:01 AM
#74
It should be from the novel, so the similarity is just a coincidence |
Sep 22, 2012 4:03 AM
#75
Nachtwandler_21 said: I still wonder idf this phrase about Sach-chan was for real or they just joked(cause as it was said her seyuus name is Sachiko) WTF your right Kuroyukihime aka Sachan's voice actress is named Sachiko (or Sachi for short) that cannot be another coincidence now - http://myanimelist.net/people/7337/Sachika_Misawa |
Sep 22, 2012 4:20 AM
#76
Sep 22, 2012 4:39 AM
#77
Nachtwandler_21 said: nseika said: It should be from the novel, so the similarity is just a coincidence Not necessarily. There's still a propability of scriptwriters joke. I didn't read AW LN's so I can't say for sure light novel readers also confirmed that Sky Raker did called Kuroyukihime as Sachan too here The things that don’t exactly match up are that Sky Raker in Accel World call Kuroyukihime “Saa-chan,” which is nowhere near the name of Yuuki unless Saa-chan is some kind of nickname source: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=462333#msg15893309 spoiler about naruto do not read if you are not reading the manga of naruto if in naruto manga it was proven that Tobi was indeed Obito no matter how shallow or trivial that theory was in the past then this piling hints in Accel World is not so far-fetch to happen too |
degSep 22, 2012 4:48 AM
Sep 22, 2012 8:49 AM
#78
Yep it's decided...in the last ep Fuuko called Hime Sacchan so if she really is Kirito's daughter I think he'd call her Sachi. |
Sep 22, 2012 4:18 PM
#79
ArcanusLim said: j0x said: nseika said: Adding mud to the discussion If that's so, why did her parents give it to the second child and not her elder sister ? :D the elder sister is probably named Yui It's stated in both the SAO novel and anime that Yui will be Kirito and Asuna's first child. "Well then, let's be sure to meet up with Yui-chan again on the other side. Our very first child." ~ Morning Dew Girl from Baka-Tsuki darn their should be a "like" button in the forums lol... nice info dude!!! |
Sep 22, 2012 4:28 PM
#80
Kirito and Asuna, they know. |
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Sep 23, 2012 6:44 PM
#81
Since i have already read up until the Latest novel of SAO. Maybe the author saying AW and SAO not related is maybe a bluff or what. We really cannot tell yet since it wasn't written by the author yet so he can change these things on the way he want. Now for some thoughts on authors mind SAO is going to AW 1st. He do have Kirito and Silver Crow Battle though it maybe a side story. 2nd. On one episode of AW nerve gear was Shown 3rd. The Ancestor of the accelerated world was first tested by Kirito on the Vol 9. i would also like to give a + on thinking that Sacchan real name might be Sachi (which will be supporting the theory that kirito is the father of sacchan) since sachi is one of the girls kirito cant forget. If you read the LN you might spot some instances where he still remember sachi and what happened to her even though he isnt mentioning her name |
Sep 24, 2012 6:52 PM
#82
Not sure it's a spoiler but to be on the safe side. Also - after finally getting unlazy and reading this cross over arc (in which I'm hoping the afterword of this when it appeared in accel world) it's mentioned they are different universes. I'm pretty sure what he meant was what he meant in the cross-over arc. He almost interchangeable uses the word "universe" and time-line. Basically that fight Kirito was wondering if he'd gone back or forward in time and realizes he'd gone forward in time. Thus I think what he was trying to re-enforce as that Kirito and Haru do not live in the same time frame, and this coincidence was Kirito fighting someone from the future, through this quantum anomaly. The entire fight Haru is comparing Kirito to Kuroyukihime, or the color he wears, the presence he gives off both as a fighter and in the gentle support he seems to give. Also he even compares their fighting style. When he is explaining it to her to the "mumbling" and comparison / reasons for black being the abandoned color all are signs pointing them to being related (most obvious answer via this timeline being Kirito being her father). Also - Kirito basically gets the idea of how to make the Accel World game from having played it through that anomaly. The "imagine" power he keeps referencing talking to his sister, is what drives Accel World (when you learn of the incarnate system). Thus, further making me believe Kirito is the "creator" you get to ask questions to upon reaching level 10, which is why Kuroyukihime has such a desire to win, because she probably wants to know why her dad created this game. Don't know - the evidence for their relation is stacked a mile high o.0. |
Sep 30, 2012 3:32 PM
#83
well, we can be sure now that her name starts with "s", in 1st ep of EX OVA, Haru is trying to call her by her name, but was only able to say "S..." so Sachi seems quite possible actually |
Sep 30, 2012 7:31 PM
#84
I liked this theory about her name being Sachi and the second child. And anyway, get a motivation to read AW novel and finish SAO. |
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Oct 8, 2012 11:32 AM
#85
The evidence is now simply too strong to discard the possibility. With the episode that shows the Nerve Gear to even pointing the correct year for its creation then there is no doubt that the story takes place in the same world/universe. Sky Raker called KYH "Sacchan". Arita called KYH "Sa-" trying to call her by her first name. If Kirito were to decide a name for one of her daughter's it will no doubt be Sachi. Since some have said she has an older sister then she might bear the name of Asuna's important person from the volume Mother's Rosario. I don't think the first daughter would be called Yui. For them the AI Yui is their daughter. Another daughter could never replace their Yui. What I still can't get straight is why she said her user name is similar to her real name. It might refer to her Yuki part of the username pointing toward her mother's last name Yuuki. As posted on the last message there is also the skills of KYH : Vorpal Strike and Starburst Stream. I think we really have hit home run. The author wants to hide the real name of her. Why? Because we would connect the dots too fast. He told us it might not be in the same universe because he doesn't want to spoil the surprise. We might be wrong but there is some really strong evidence going here. Even more appears as Accel World and Sword Art Online progress into a intersection. |
Oct 9, 2012 5:35 PM
#86
Falmung said: The evidence is now simply too strong to discard the possibility. With the episode that shows the Nerve Gear to even pointing the correct year for its creation then there is no doubt that the story takes place in the same world/universe. Sky Raker called KYH "Sacchan". Arita called KYH "Sa-" trying to call her by her first name. If Kirito were to decide a name for one of her daughter's it will no doubt be Sachi. Since some have said she has an older sister then she might bear the name of Asuna's important person from the volume Mother's Rosario. I don't think the first daughter would be called Yui. For them the AI Yui is their daughter. Another daughter could never replace their Yui. What I still can't get straight is why she said her user name is similar to her real name. It might refer to her Yuki part of the username pointing toward her mother's last name Yuuki. As posted on the last message there is also the skills of KYH : Vorpal Strike and Starburst Stream. I think we really have hit home run. The author wants to hide the real name of her. Why? Because we would connect the dots too fast. He told us it might not be in the same universe because he doesn't want to spoil the surprise. We might be wrong but there is some really strong evidence going here. Even more appears as Accel World and Sword Art Online progress into a intersection. What this person said. I also have a suspicion that's slightly less based on fact. that Kirito was the creator of Brain Burst, which gives a bit more motivation to her desire to learn what the games meaning was. As Kirito in the cross over basically learns of the concept. That part aside the light novels start getting into games that accelerate reality, and Asuna and Kirito wanted to create a means to bring Yui into the real world. Brain burst was probably part of this. The whole imagine power and that starts leaking in around Gun Girls online, and the belief in yourself, and imagining a stronger self that runs rampant in Accel World. It's a bit more far fetched and unlikely. It would also add to a reason why he wants to hide her name. Kirito also has had a background in programming and hardware, and was the person who fostered The Seed, that Brain Burst is likely based off of. Just a suspicion but I think it has some level of merit, and gives a bit better reason for hiding the link between the two. That or she is investigating brain burst in place of Kirito because he can not due to not being born with a neuro linker, and she feels that being his daughter she should bear that burden. Though I might be trying to make things more interesting =P. I'd probably need to read more of the accel world light novels to formulate this better :(. |
Oct 17, 2012 4:04 PM
#87
I would say her name is Either Yuuki or (after hearing she is called Sa-chan) I would say her name could also be Sachi :) i just want her to be Kirito and Asuna's daughter :D |
Oct 18, 2012 6:21 AM
#88
I ultra extremely hope Kuroyukihime really is Daughter of Kirito and Asuna. |
Oct 31, 2012 1:52 AM
#89
hmmm, I wonder if there would be a second season of AW or SAO... and in that season, they will reveal all the mysteries.... |
Oct 31, 2012 3:56 PM
#90
akira25ysai said: hmmm, I wonder if there would be a second season of AW or SAO... and in that season, they will reveal all the mysteries.... I've heard rumors of them announcing a second season to Accel World when Sword Art Onlines season ends. Perhaps they'll announce another season for both. Though as far as I know this hasn't been answered in any of the Accel World light novels or Sword Art Online novels and as such the second season (unless spanning more than 26 episodes) wouldn't get passed book 8 of the 10 released (I think both have 10 released?). If it's sword art I doubt it'll get passed book 6 as book 6 was the longest one he's written and was almost double the size of the others :(. |
Nov 1, 2012 8:56 AM
#91
I won't mind any name as long as it won't be yellow snow princess, lol XD |
Nov 6, 2012 3:20 AM
#92
Suiaerl said: akira25ysai said: hmmm, I wonder if there would be a second season of AW or SAO... and in that season, they will reveal all the mysteries.... I've heard rumors of them announcing a second season to Accel World when Sword Art Onlines season ends. Perhaps they'll announce another season for both. Though as far as I know this hasn't been answered in any of the Accel World light novels or Sword Art Online novels and as such the second season (unless spanning more than 26 episodes) wouldn't get passed book 8 of the 10 released (I think both have 10 released?). If it's sword art I doubt it'll get passed book 6 as book 6 was the longest one he's written and was almost double the size of the others :(. If AW2 and SAO2 would be released at the same time, then Haru badly needs a serious badass upgrade so that AW can beat SAO in popularity. Fortunately though, the Chrome Disaster Armor can hopefully provide just that. |
Nov 29, 2012 7:43 AM
#93
Kinda building off of this guy's theory here: http://kasuka.net/2012/06/16/sword-art-onlineaccel-world/ If KYH was 'abandoned' by Kirito and Asuna, I think Yui would be asked, or wanted to, stay behind and look after KYH. So I think Yui became the 'white queen' in BB. And if both her parents abandoned her, that would have a big affect on KYH, giving her the 2 sword arms (you know 2 parents, 2 sword arms) |
Dec 5, 2012 5:47 PM
#94
Dec 16, 2012 8:28 PM
#95
I think it's Saiyuki ... From Sachan and Yuki .. She said her avatar name resemble her real name right? |
Dec 16, 2012 8:35 PM
#96
According to the spoiler on her character page. "Her real name starts with "Sa."" - Hopefully that's useful in some way. Sa... Sa... Sam? Yeah. Never mind. |
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Dec 27, 2012 11:35 AM
#97
In my opinion, a lot of people say she's the daughter of Asuna and Kirito from Sword Art Online (which I think is true) so her name might be just simply Kuro Yuuki...because of her 'mother' Asuna Yuuki |
Dec 27, 2012 9:32 PM
#98
I don't think Japanese parents would name their daughters "Kuro". |
Dec 28, 2012 7:25 AM
#99
if she is realy Asuna and Kirito daughter maybe her name would be Kirigaya Koyuki |
Dec 28, 2012 8:12 AM
#100
Thats just something fans came up with... Kuroyukihime being their daughter would be completely unnecessary, it has already been established that their worlds might be connected since nerve gear was shown but the MC being related would just kill it for me :x, anyway her name could be anything lol, her nickname might just be random and for fun |
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