Fate/Zero Episode 4 Discussion

Oct 22, 2011 4:45 PM

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hehehe
I told you that this Rider IS amazing !XD
this was EPIC .. crazy fight ! each step was planned carefully by both
and the music .. OMG !! Yuki-san did really outdone herself with this !
this is going to be one of my all time favorites

"Rarely does one have the chance to exchange blows with heroes from another time, And with the chance to fight as many as six, I'd hate to miss out on a single one"

EPIC

Oct 22, 2011 4:50 PM

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RIDER! ♥

Oct 22, 2011 5:23 PM

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The quality of the animation, I mean CG , is respectable as usual. Ufotable or whatever is the same studio that made "Kara no Kyoukai", right? It seems the author of the original media is the same: kind of redundant and not thrilling.

Some comments for this episode:

If you can hide a sword with magic, why don't you hide your whole body?
Why should he be called assassin if he can be found easily from the distance?
Saver's bulky costume ruins her slender figure.

Oct 22, 2011 5:27 PM

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The visuals are too lovely :D.
Fate/Zero Rider >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fate/Stay Night Rider. You can't even compare how GAR Fate/Zero Rider is to that annoying bitch in Fate/Stay Night.
I still love how Kiritsugu's still like "Magic must defeat magic my ass. I have sniper rifle 8-)" Shirou was such an annoying sexist prick that Kiritsugu just looks that much cooler.
I have to say, Lancer's 2x Noble Phantasm was a little too convenient.

Oct 22, 2011 5:30 PM

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kuroneko99 said:
The quality of the animation, I mean CG , is respectable as usual. Ufotable or whatever is the same studio that made "Kara no Kyoukai", right? It seems the author of the original media is the same: kind of redundant and not thrilling.

Some comments for this episode:

Spears are not a weapon for a close quarters combat.
If you can hide a sword with magic, why don't you hide your whole body?
Why should he be called assassin if he can be found easily from the distance?
Saver's bulky costume ruins her slender figure.

yes, they are.. otherwise, 300 didn't make sense.. and there is a tribe in Africa that really has shortened spears designed for close combat.. and even if spears are not used in close combat in real life, fictional stories have countlessly depicted it as such, especially in anime..
the invisibility is exclusive to the sword.. it cannot be applied anywhere else.. it's in her Servant status and it is the special property of the sword, her Noble Phantasm.. and tell me if you can make epic action scenes if she's entirely invisible, or at least a good plot..
Assassin's presence concealment is that he can't be detected by magic, not physical invisibility.. also, considering that he's officially dead in the competition already he might be a little off guard.. Kiritsugu is also in a position where he isn't assumed in the scene and Assassin might have not considered his positioning well because of it..
can't do a thing about that.. it's the character designer's desire to have her like that.. otherwise, we won't have a female Saber, a different Fate/stay night, possibly none of this, and one of the most renowned and well-parodied character designs would be gone from history..

also, ufotable's CG is so darn good, it looks like it's part of the animation itself and not CG'd.. drawn scenes and CG blend so well, i haven't seen any other studios pull that off as good as them.. and their animation of fluid dynamics are just so.. so..
and the story is written by another person (Urobuchi Gen), he's just supervised by the original writer (Kinoko Nasu)..

argiliumOct 22, 2011 5:37 PM

Oct 22, 2011 5:34 PM

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She hide the sword by compressing the air and create a high-speed flow of air around her sword which can deflect light so it is "invisible". However, that trick consumes quite a feat of prana and... of course, she can't move if that high-speed wind cover her body. it's a lot easier to hide a sword
Assassin was detected because Kiri found him with his own eyes, not "feel" him like other magus. While other magus rely on their feelings for spiritual things, Assassin has the skill of Presence concealment so they can't be detected by spiritual ways, but they still be detected by naked eyes if they materialize

Oct 22, 2011 5:45 PM

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I liked the battle, looking forward to next episode.

Oct 22, 2011 5:47 PM

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lol. Rider's so cool.
That fight was so epic ._.
Awesome episode.

Oct 22, 2011 5:47 PM

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kuroneko99 said:
The quality of the animation, I mean CG , is respectable as usual. Ufotable or whatever is the same studio that made "Kara no Kyoukai", right? It seems the author of the original media is the same: kind of redundant and not thrilling.

Some comments for this episode:

Spears are not a weapon for a close quarters combat.
If you can hide a sword with magic, why don't you hide your whole body?
Why should he be called assassin if he can be found easily from the distance?
Saver's bulky costume ruins her slender figure.

Since your groundless nitpicking complaints have already been answered I'll just call you a tool.

Oct 22, 2011 5:49 PM

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Awesome fight and awesome "break time" with Rider arriving !

ワンダーランド花 ♥

Oct 22, 2011 5:56 PM

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That's how you do it. Take notes, DEEN.

Oct 22, 2011 6:18 PM

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Kariya's command seal was shown in next week's preview. Next week will also be epic...

Oct 22, 2011 6:22 PM

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argilium said:

kuroneko99 said:

yes, they are.. otherwise, 300 didn't make sense.. and there is a tribe in Africa that really has shortened spears designed for close combat.. and even if spears are not used in close combat in real life, fictional stories have countlessly depicted it as such, especially in anime..
the invisibility is exclusive to the sword.. it cannot be applied anywhere else.. it's in her Servant status and it is the special property of the sword, her Noble Phantasm.. and tell me if you can make epic action scenes if she's entirely invisible, or at least a good plot..
Assassin's presence concealment is that he can't be detected by magic, not physical invisibility.. also, considering that he's officially dead in the competition already he might be a little off guard.. Kiritsugu is also in a position where he isn't assumed in the scene and Assassin might have not considered his positioning well because of it..
can't do a thing about that.. it's the character designer's desire to have her like that.. otherwise, we won't have a female Saber, a different Fate/stay night, possibly none of this, and one of the most renowned and well-parodied character designs would be gone from history..

also, ufotable's CG is so darn good, it looks like it's part of the animation itself and not CG'd.. drawn scenes and CG blend so well, i haven't seen any other studios pull that off as good as them.. and their animation of fluid dynamics are just so.. so..
and the story is written by another person (Urobuchi Gen), he's just supervised by the original writer (Kinoko Nasu)..

Good answers. Since everybody praises the show blindly, as a contrary, I made the critical comment.
300? The movie was beautiful.

kuroneko99Oct 22, 2011 6:25 PM

Oct 22, 2011 6:22 PM

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my favorite scene

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Oct 22, 2011 6:23 PM

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Holy shit, what an episode. Letting ufotable adapt this was the best and only choice. This must be one of the better fights I've seen in anime. The spectacular animation and music made it really intense.

I couldn't help but burst out laughing when Rider interfered and instantly gave away his identity. It was hilarious - pure comedy anime can't make me laugh as much as Rider can.

It's hard to believe that the next episode will be even better, but I'm pretty sure it will be.

Edit: Also... Lancer, why you so fabulous?! That charm skill truly works. Though it was only supposed to work on women, so I guess he's just really sexy...

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Oct 22, 2011 6:31 PM

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Epic ride is epic. God, I love Rider. He's so blatantly GAR he'll ride in the middle of your god damn battle like a boss and announce his identity! BITCHES, GIVE HIM WHAT HE WANTS.

Oct 22, 2011 6:35 PM

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kuroneko99 said:
Since everybody praises the show blindly

Great generalizing.

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Oct 22, 2011 7:04 PM

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Great fight and great interruption

Rider never fail to make me laugh xD

Oct 22, 2011 7:06 PM

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Great battle, wish this was an hour long episode!

Oct 22, 2011 7:30 PM

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ANIME OF THE YEAR EVERY YEAR

Oct 22, 2011 7:34 PM

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Best battle scene I've seen in a long while.

Dat Iskander entrance.

Oct 22, 2011 7:46 PM

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Epic battle + Awesome Animation + Rider at the end = Win

Oct 22, 2011 8:09 PM

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I came.

Oct 22, 2011 8:23 PM

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kuroneko99 said:

argilium said:

kuroneko99 said:

Good answers. Since everybody praises the show blindly, as a contrary, I made the critical comment.
300? The movie was beautiful.

if you're ever going to nitpick on things, don't make them look like you're a blind watcher yourself.. at least make critical comments that required critical thinking from your part.. your comment just looked almost like a troll.. only thing i can probably accept in your comment is your perspective on the redundancy of the writing.. it's a valid one because it's supported by or stated as an opinion..

Oct 22, 2011 8:34 PM

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Awesome episode, amazing animation, and a really epic battle.

Rider is the best! He is already within my top 3 favorites in the Fate franchise. I can't wait till the next episode.

Ragna92Oct 22, 2011 10:26 PM

Oct 22, 2011 8:34 PM

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kuroneko99 said:
Since everybody praises the show blindly

Daw. Where's fun without trolls? :D

Anyway, ikuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu~

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Oct 22, 2011 8:44 PM

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ringoo4 said:

kuroneko99 said:
Since everybody praises the show blindly

Daw. Where's fun without trolls? :D

Anyway, ikuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu~

Not everyone necessarily praises the show blindly. Most usually find a show good but never bother to comment because of the general mixture of bad and good comments regarding the show.

Since this show is garnering positive reviews, people feel more relaxed and willing to comment. In contrast, if a show sucks and they like it, they usually wouldn't post unless they really didn't give a shit about what others think.

But then again, some do follow and get influenced by the crowd. It happens.

Oct 22, 2011 9:19 PM

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Wasabi said:
That's how you do it. Take notes, DEEN.

Sad, isn't it? 1 episode of ufotable's F/Z beats the entire FSN by DEEN.

Oct 22, 2011 9:40 PM

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Nilvius said:

Wasabi said:
That's how you do it. Take notes, DEEN.

Sad, isn't it? 1 episode of ufotable's F/Z beats the entire FSN by DEEN.

At least now people will be able to see the true potential of the Fate franchise.

Oct 22, 2011 9:47 PM

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The single fight scene in this episode....... holy hell, this was better than every single fight scene in all of fate/stay night. Hell, even unlimited blade works couldn't hold a candle to this badassery.

The original Fate/Stay Night may have had pretty girls...... but this has unbridled amounts of pure badass. Not to mention a well executed story that anybody can really jump into!

Also, Rider confirmed for one of the most awesome dudes ever. He is a bro if there ever was one.

Oct 22, 2011 10:48 PM

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It's about time for MAL to expand the favourite characters slots! King of Conquerors demands it! lol

Seriously, I need to add Alexander. He's showing to be truly an awesome character and hero.

Oct 22, 2011 10:51 PM

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Looks like rider will do more for Gilgamesh than assassin ever will. Gather everyone in one place and we can end this in a single Gate of Babylon LOL

Another Irish lancer eh? No complains there, they both are awesome. I hope this one gets more love(and air time) than Cuchulain.

Can't really call the other guy a troll for saying saber looks better without the armor. The Einzberns should have given her Saber Lily Armor to match Irisviel! (Google Saber Lily NOW if you don't know what I'm talking about)

Love Unfotable, but I hope they trade more blows next fight. I loved what they did with all the slow motion, tactical retreats, etc; However I can't help but think of DBZ when they trade blows and the ground explodes with energy lol

Oct 22, 2011 11:06 PM

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Alex reminds me of Kamina =))

Oct 23, 2011 12:43 AM

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And another contender for Anime of the season emerges....this was great! Can't wait for next week to see what happens next....

Please don't feed the trolls!

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carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac

Oct 23, 2011 12:43 AM

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Gamaliel said:

halberdiers said:
Argh!!! Why couldn't they air next week together with this week! The true awesomeness starts next week... Still this was one heck of a battle (albeit a bit too much talking). Ufotable did a spectacular job with the animation and the BGM. The crimson rose of exorcism and the golden rose of mortality at their finest!

well, there is a lot of talking in the Book as well. I'm not really surprised. Besides, Saber and Lancer are Knights, that respect each other and like to enjoy the battle at the most, so it's understandable all the conversation of them

Yea but when I read the novel I was sort of imagining them continuing to swing their weapons while exchanging praises instead of stopping to talk. I was hoping that they ended the episode with the entrance of berserker

Oct 23, 2011 1:04 AM

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Can we please remember to fucking tag spoilers?

Oct 23, 2011 1:14 AM

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Wasabi said:
Can we please remember to fucking tag spoilers?

Just be glad we didn't already reveal Berserker's identity.

Oct 23, 2011 1:20 AM

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BBcode should be fine by now. So yeah.

Oct 23, 2011 1:20 AM

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LOL Rider's so proud to have revealed his name so fast! I like him!

All servants should join the party now! xD

Oct 23, 2011 1:22 AM

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Fighting was good.

My favorite moment in the fighting ...

<img src="http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i452/sankarbose/vlcsnap-2011-10-22-23h38m48s182.png"; alt="vlcsnap-2011-10-22-23h38m48s182.png" />

From this part I was like

Gyaaa!! no no no don't cut Saber's precious hair! >_

Oct 23, 2011 1:25 AM

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Rider is such funny guy !!

Oct 23, 2011 1:30 AM

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I like this

Oct 23, 2011 1:36 AM

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Sweet, I'm so loving this anime.

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"Your as good as naked before my spear." i laughed when i thought of that quote the second time and i know i'm not the only one

Umm I'm perverted enough that I consider it shocking I didn't notice a double-meaning for that sentence until I read your quote!

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Oct 23, 2011 2:06 AM

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Faker_ said:
Can't really call the other guy a troll for saying saber looks better without the armor. The Einzberns should have given her Saber Lily Armor to match Irisviel! (Google Saber Lily NOW if you don't know what I'm talking about)

Maybe if he weren't complaining that her bulky armor makes her look fat right after we were just shown how much she relies on it.

As for Saber's armor, Saber Lily might be fitting if Irisviel really were her master, but her real master is Kiritsugu, so Dark Saber would be better. Besides, I think that that very sexy black pantsuit that she was wearing proves that she looks better in darker clothing.

Oct 23, 2011 2:24 AM

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wow, this animation is top-notch, this show is so damn awesome

Oct 23, 2011 2:41 AM

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why i feel this anime only 5 minutes per episode, WHY! IT'S OVER TOO SOON!

Oct 23, 2011 2:50 AM

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great ep fight was awesome and rider and Waver entrance was priceless.

Oct 23, 2011 2:53 AM

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I hope Alexander beats Gilgamesh and becomes the big boss, that Saber has to face.

Can anyone photoshop Alexander as Santa Claus for me? xD

Oct 23, 2011 2:55 AM

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I pity the fools who watched streams and didn't wait for a good quality download.

It was fantastic. Stunning!!!!!

Oct 23, 2011 3:24 AM

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Ufotable.... I love you.

What a stunning battle scene, what an amazing episode.... Can't wait for next week.

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