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| "OH JESUS!" This was kinda bad yo. And the animation was kinda shitty. I would like too see some more of it. As a TV serie. Time to read the manga I guess. 6/10 "Fuck off, gentleman." |
| uh. Nill was kind of... too tall. and didn't look like Nill. which was the biggest disappointment of the whole series, even worse than strange-looking Badou and Heine. it's obvious that Miwa's artstyle is not really easy to animate, but still, uh, it could look better, i think D: i hoped that this episode would make up for previous failures, but nope, it was even worse. after waiting about 3 years for Dogs anime, it was a big let-down. manga as awesome as this one needs better adaptation. |
Alu-chan said: uh. Nill was kind of... too tall. and didn't look like Nill. which was the biggest disappointment of the whole series, even worse than strange-looking Badou and Heine. it's obvious that Miwa's artstyle is not really easy to animate, but still, uh, it could look better, i think D: i hoped that this episode would make up for previous failures, but nope, it was even worse. after waiting about 3 years for Dogs anime, it was a big let-down. manga as awesome as this one needs better adaptation. I agree on everything. Dogs is a crazy awesome manga and this in no way let any of that shine through :'< I hope that if they do end up doing a tv series, they really really change their method of going about it. For the life of me, I cannot take engrish cursing seriously; everytime Heine said F off in some way, I just burst out laughing. |
| Good adaptation of manga. But still mediocre show. 6/10 - for me material from Dogs is just boring introduction to further story. |
| Adequate ending. 7/10 |
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| Kinda good episode, but I think the first two were kinda far superior. |
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| Giovanni <3 Nice last episode, but overall this was a major disappointment. It just didn't feel as great as the manga did when I first read it and the average animation didn't help either. At least they did a god job with the voices (most of them anyway). Score; 6/10 |
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| They need to redo this better, I mean this should be a real kick ass anime! |
| This episode was surprisingly good. Heine had so much style. Loved his and Bishop's voices, and the general look of the city. The music was much better, as well. Awesome when Heine said "fuck up, gentleman" lmao. |
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| Fuck up... Gentlemen <3 |
| The whole series disappointed me too much. |
Alu-chan said: uh. Nill was kind of... too tall. and didn't look like Nill. I was thinking that too, I almost couldn't recognize her save for her pair of wings. Well, at least Giovanni was awesome in it. But erm, the engrish, and the animation. 6/10. |
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| To someone who has NOT read the manga yet, I thought it was very good, I'd give it a 9/10. But I'm going to have to lower it to an 8/10 simply because it is only 4 episodes. This obviously has a TON of potential as an anime series, if the manga is as good as everyone says it is too (all the more so then...if they stick to the manga). Hope they make this into a longer series sometime soon. |
MaxCrazy7 said: seriously.They need to redo this better, I mean this should be a real kick ass anime! Like everyone has said, this anime was a disappointment to all of us manga fans. This just didn't do it justice. I really hope that if they do make a series that they definitely change studios or something. The manga's art deserves better. It's a shame this happens all too often in manga to anime series. |
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| This episode was much better than I expected. Haine's intonation, dialogue, and facial expressions were less whiny and far more bloodthirsty than what I was afraid they would be. Quite good. Naruleach said: MaxCrazy7 said: seriously.They need to redo this better, I mean this should be a real kick ass anime! Like everyone has said, this anime was a disappointment to all of us manga fans. This just didn't do it justice. I really hope that if they do make a series that they definitely change studios or something. The manga's art deserves better. It's a shame this happens all too often in manga to anime series. Really? How is it a disappointment? It's a good OVA that is very slightly inferior to the manga original because of several small story and stylistic deviations, but overall, essentially the same. Personally, I thought the main Dogs manga was a much bigger disappointment when compared against its action-packed, engaging one-shot origin. |
| Fuck up... Gentlemen! ^ Awesome way to end things. |
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| After reading the original Dogs manga, this was the episode I was waiting to see the most, and I wasn't disappointed. I was surprised how well it covered everything in 15 minutes. Not sure why people are complaining about the animation. It may not be as fluid nor fast as most action shows, but it looked exactly like it came from the panels of the manga. Hopefully a full anime series will be adapted in the future. Its gotten me geared up to try and read the Bullets & Carnage series. Can't wait! I'd give the entire show an 7/10. |
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| It was quite good I think. I've read the DOGS manga so I still think the adaptation based on the storyline is alright. But erm how should I say it, if I remember correctly, Haine is a bit more psychotic in the manga whereas in the anime he seemed to be more...frenly?? Anyways, Badou is still my fav!! |
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| Just an OVA isn't enough. It needs a series and a better animator. Anyhow, this episode was fine. I thought in this episodes often that the sound wasn't really right, but that could just be me. Anyhow, sticking to 6-7/10. It does have enough potential to get an actual series, so let's hope it'll get it. |
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| Just finished it. Awesome. I love Nill, she's cute! (: But there's many rumors circulating around about a TV series...?? Anyone else heard 'em? |
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vault2049 said: Fuck up... Gentlemen <3 I thought it was a good introduction to DOGS. Now I want to read the manga. I also heard that a series will be starting by the winter, buts thats just the usual rumor-mil at it. I do hope this gets animated further! |
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| Eh. I think episode 2 was the highlight, then it all just went downhill. But it might also be because of the time gap between the releases and I got bored or forgot what happened :/ |
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YoungVagabond said: It's a disappointment for the very reasons that you pointed out, especially the stylistic differences. The main reason i like the Dogs one-shot so much is the for art. Yes, it is essentially the same, however the way way the anime was carried out and produced is the disappointment. I was expecting the anime to look as amazing as the manga art wise, seeing as it was only 4 episodes long. I agree with the fact that the main Dogs manga is not as good as the one-shot -though this isn't really a fair judgment of it because I've only read one chapter.This episode was much better than I expected. Haine's intonation, dialogue, and facial expressions were less whiny and far more bloodthirsty than what I was afraid they would be. Quite good. Naruleach said: MaxCrazy7 said: seriously.They need to redo this better, I mean this should be a real kick ass anime! Like everyone has said, this anime was a disappointment to all of us manga fans. This just didn't do it justice. I really hope that if they do make a series that they definitely change studios or something. The manga's art deserves better. It's a shame this happens all too often in manga to anime series. Really? How is it a disappointment? It's a good OVA that is very slightly inferior to the manga original because of several small story and stylistic deviations, but overall, essentially the same. Personally, I thought the main Dogs manga was a much bigger disappointment when compared against its action-packed, engaging one-shot origin. |
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| oh wow i should rewatch it once i got a new computer >_> this episode was good for a finale especially of what heine said on the last, but nill ._. it's kinda.... err.... different from the manga >__> but still 9/10 |
| Fuck up, gentlemen. <3 Heine. He always sorta reminded me of Cloud Strife...the hair style and the outfit, and they have the same Seiyuu. |
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| For a short OVA this worked fine. I feel like the only one who actually is happy that the anime didn't copy the minimalist art style. No backgrounds on manga pages are one thing, but in something animated? D: |
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| Well.... this was pretty okay. Manga was a lot superior though. And Haine cursing in Engrish was... awkward. Anyways, going to leave my rating as it was, 8/10, but just because Haine and Badou always manage to crack me up. |
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| Oh Sakurai Takahiro voiced Heine. <3 I was expecting more angst but this turned out to be a little lighter. Heine looks different (softer) but still good. I thought it was day in manga when he was walking in the street but I think the atmosphere of the night was really good here. Overall, the art in this OVA is good (colors and shadings) but still some were bit different...that is compare to the manga. The sounds is above average. The opening track is nice. So, it's 7/10. |
| decent episode, lacked compared to 2 others for me though. The maid joke was horrible -_- Overall o.k OVA. I liked the first and 3rd eps, thought the 4th was decent, and that the 2nd was sort of bad. 6/10 |
| nice end... 7/10 |
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| It was pretty decent, not a good engrrrysh right there but whatever. 7/10 |
| Fuck up, gentlemen. Damn, he's so freaking badass! Awesome episode. |
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Oresund said: also RetroElectro said: And I always thought that Haine was spelled with an 'a', not an 'e'. And you thought good even author writes Haine's name with 'a' but Viz Media changed it to 'Heine' and now everyone writes with fucking 'e'. How annoying. "Heine" is correct spelling for the name "Haine" of german origins. |
Oresund said: And you thought good even author writes Haine's name with 'a' but Viz Media changed it to 'Heine' and now everyone writes with fucking 'e'. How annoying. No, the mangaka writes it as Heine. His name is printed like that on artwork done by Miwa: http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/778/minitokyodogsbulletsand.jpg http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9772/heine.jpg And as ashura pointed out, Heine is the correct spelling in German. Badou is actually spelled as Bado by the mangaka too, but I guess Viz doesn't know that... Anywho, I really like the manga and seeing it taken on by a relatively inexperienced studio is disappointing. It doesn't do the manga justice, but I wouldn't say it's terrible either. The OVAs were fairly consistent with the manga and I'm glad to be able to see the characters in action. But I definitely agree that the art was lacking and sometimes very sloppy and the overall presentation wasn't as impressive as the manga was. I just hope the production of these OVAs means that Dogs is getting more popular and will get a regular series sometime in the future, preferably done by a more experienced studio. |
sheruchanAug 29, 2009 3:59 PM
| Dunno, this particular episode didn't empress me as much as it did in the manga. Probably the animation and the whole presentation/directing aren't that good enough. Too bland, not enough charisma. Whatever. Still hope for the main B&C to get animated too. |
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| w0w need more eps wasnt satisfied with 4 Ovas |
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| I honestly don't understand why people like this so much. It was bad on every level...except sometimes the music was generic. 3/10 |
noteDhero said: I honestly don't understand why people like this so much. It was funny, fast-paced, and action-packed. |
| Was it?? I thought it was cliche and aimless. |
noteDhero said: Was it?? I thought it was cliche and aimless. You think wrong! Cliche? To a certain extent, especially with the Heine storyline, but far less than the majority of action anime, or 90 plus percent of the shoujo/drama/romance you watch, hoho! |
| We had an emo antagonist that was angry because of daddy issues, girl seeking revenge for the murder of her family, Heine, and then just a random comic relief character. I felt like I had seen each of those episodes done a million times before, and with better production, and an actual attempt at at story. The whole thing was very uninspired and lazy, the exception being the animation during the fight last episode. |
noteDhero said: We had an emo antagonist that was angry because of daddy issues, girl seeking revenge for the murder of her family, Heine, and then just a random comic relief character. I felt like I had seen each of those episodes done a million times before, and with better production, and an actual attempt at at story. The whole thing was very uninspired and lazy, the exception being the animation during the fight last episode. True...but what's your point? It was executed incredibly, slightly less so than in the manga, but exceptionally well nonetheless. Yes, when you get right down to its core, it is generic, but so is at least 95 percent of your list, much of which you give high ratings to. So, why are you applying a standard to Dogs that your romance/shoujo escapes? I'm not saying that giving Dogs a low rating and disliking it are invalid, only that "it's generic" doesn't explain anything in your particular instance. It doesn't seem like the real reason. |
| That's where I disagree. I don't think that the show is executed exceptionally in any aspect. It's just executed. As far as why I give shows high scores, its based on a few things. The show either has some good characters with engaging interactions inside a show with a clear story, despite its cliches; has a point of view I find intriguing; does a few technical things very well; if it's a comedy, is damn funny from beginning to end; or a mix of the previous four. Dogs doesn't do any of those things for me. It's 4 unrelated vignettes built around specific action scenes. The first episode, aside from the terrible developments towards the end, wasn't so bad, and in fact felt a little promising, but it went nowhere since it was self contained, and the subsequent episodes didn't bother to do as much as the first. So, since it only attempted one thing, and didn't do it successfully, it gets the score I gave it. |
noteDhero said: It's 4 unrelated vignettes built around specific action scenes. The first episode, aside from the terrible developments towards the end, wasn't so bad, and in fact felt a little promising, but it went nowhere since it was self contained, and the subsequent episodes didn't bother to do as much as the first. So, since it only attempted one thing, and didn't do it successfully, it gets the score I gave it. The first episode was a melodramatic gun battle, a short anime adaptation of John Woo. The second episode was action comedy, and actually succeeded with its humor, an exceedingly rare accomplishment for any anime. The third episode was a vicious, violent sword battle. All about action and revenge, with few ruminations. The fourth episode was a science fiction action story. And yet...you say they're all the exact same? Seriously? That's the diversity and range of 120 episodes of one of your shoujo romances, dude. If you didn't find it stylish, exciting, and fast-paced, that's fine. But one-dimensional and overly generic, considering your own anime list? No way. |
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