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| Wow this was terrible. The first Gundam movie to be green lit gave us this crap. Should be Celestial Beings versus another type of organization or something not a type of life form found on another planet. I don't care that Setsuna doesn't end up with anyone since this wasn't that type of anime anyway. His new gundam barely had any action. I was hoping the antagonist was going to be that new innovator and he would fight Setsuna but noooooo that guy dies in the middle of the movie and we get flying metals as enemies. What a bad way to end the 00 series. Fights were boring and the plot was terrible. 5/10 and I feel like that is a generous score. |
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| I hated gundam seed and don't give a crap about the relationships, yet this movie was still disappointing for me. Even though it has been said, the main reason I hated this movie was before of the alien antagonists. They weren't interesting and it makes the fights kinda dull imo. Honestly, I'd rather watch yet another conflicts between two nations of humans instead of "Oh let's unite together and fight random aliens". Also, the ending didn't help, it felt like the movie ran out of time and they decided to end it just like that. |
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Fai said: okay so so far the only ones saying something bad about this movie are setsuna-x-felt(ever heard of one-sided love, folks?) shippers(who, unsurprisingly also have stuff like "gundam" seed rated as 10/10). I wish you wouldn't generalize, but alas, I realize that may be a bit much for you. |
| I personally enjoyed the movie, although it's not like anybody cares. Halle showing off secret parkour skills made my day, and I'm quite glad that he appeared for more than one scene, but the Meisters basically weren't in the movie at all. The main focus of this film was... er. I think I lost that somewhere, I was distracted by all the lasers. I do wish they elaborated a bit more on the finale - huge flower in space wtf - but I'm not complaining. I strangely enjoyed Descartes's presence (and I feel kind of trolled since he was advertised as the main villain and then proceeded to die in the first important battle) and Mina too. It was about time Katagiri had an alternate pairing, since his love for Sumeragi never quite worked out. And speaking of one-sided love - I was never a huge Feldt fan, given that my shipping of choice has always been Setsuna/Marina, but I found her pretty annoying in this movie. It must have been all the clingyness - during every meeting she was like, "Setsuna, Setsuna, what do you think?". Please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks that. Mileina was made of win though. It was about time she confessed. I'm kind of disappointed we never saw Tieria's reaction. Also, was that supposed to be Graham's death? I'll just be over there, pretending that bit of the movie never happened. 9/10 overall, if only for ninja Hallelujah and beam spams of various kinds. Oh, and Kati and Patrick taking over Ribbons's mansion. |
| It was interesting, but really a big disappointment over all. Setsuna was so hyped up, yet I felt like he did nothing until the end, and even then it was just him getting into the ELS, made contact, and left for ELS homeworld (by miraculously teleporting). After this I thought, oh, maybe they'll show the homeworld, or maybe they'll elaborate on the memories/scenes Setsuna saw with Tieria. But nope, a flower resembling setsuna's...flower I guess, pops out of nowhere, the ELS stop, and the world is happy. Add on top of that, the epilogue hardly showed any of the other characters, what happened to everyone else? Overall: Ending sucked. It was too abrupt and doesn't explain things very well, or at all I should say. We're to assume that Setsuna cleared up the misunderstanding because he's clearly so BIG. And also that the other characters don't matter since they didn't show up in the epilogue. Edit: Just saw the "manga ending to the movie" and all I can do is lol. |
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Fai said: DuroDeMatar said: Fai said: DuroDeMatar said: Yeah, I would like something else or with more explanation too... I lost track of some things in the movie, but still pretty good :P Actually the ending is self-explanatory for those who have already read/know about the novels I didn´t know that there were novels, are them in english? not gundam novels. Scifi novels which inspired gundam00, First season is heavily inspired by Isaac Asimov's Foundation series, while second season and movie draws heavilly upon both A.C.Clarke's Space Odyssey trilogy and A.C.Clarke's "Childhood's End" novel. Aesthetics, designs, etc, all of that I could see appearing in their works. Foundation series is alla bout one man's vision for the future, he predicted. It focuses on his "creation" closed secret organisation known as "Foundation", its tries to manipulate and stabilize the formation of new government and the mysterious "Seldon Plan". A.C.Clarke's Space Odyssey series mainly deals with David Bowman and what happens to him, but focuses on evolution and possibilities of humanity, with Bowman literally embodying the pinnacle of human life.. Jupiter is a huge focus there. Not to mentionthe ideas and plotlines, Aliens coming out from Jupiter's "eye" is the most direct reference to these novels. The third is A.C.Clarke's Childhood's End novel(referenced in very first movie trailer with "Humanity's childhood has come to an end" line) , which deals with alien appearance, struggle with communication and trust(aliens even refuse to reveal their looks till some hundred year into future when humanity has shed away their religious preferences enough to not label them demons). Second, it deals with the appearance of "gifted" children in earth's population(something of common theme around the works about human potential), while whole novel somehow sets up tension between aliens nad humanity, in the end their goal is revealed to be completely benevolent, although that leads to a very sorrowful, unhappy and sad ending. So in a sense while this movie ha d alot to do with this exact novel, the ending more closely resembles the ideas of Space Odyssey than that of Childhood's End. Oh, ok, I missunderstood :P Thanks for the info though. |
| I'm disappointed as we barely get to see 00 Qan[T]'s abilities.. what a bad way to end the show. Especially the ending. It sucked. |
yaHzee said: (by miraculously teleporting). wrong. 00Gundam could teleport even in season2(well in a sense thats what quantization is, as time around the quantum bubble of 00 moves faster than time outside it, it looks like he teleports because it moves so fast that we see its dispersion). Considering the supposed connections of GN Particles to quantum physics and their ability to bend the space-time, its not surprising that even bigger ammount of gn particles would allow for the creation of artificial wormhole. As for memories? what is there to elaborate? we saw the forming of the life in that planet ( different from our primordial soup), we saw a fast-forward in the planetary development when obviously civilization advanced(they even built space elevators). Then obviously their sun went supernova and while they managed to save the planet from burning up, without the sun it is as good as a random asteroid so they went on searching for the planet that would allow them to exist. The flower is the easiest bit to understand in the movie. Its the embodiment of mutual understanding and pacifism. In a sense, in setsuna's mind its the embodiment of coexistence and peace. Now considering quantum field does sort of the shared consciousness thing, its obviously that the whole memory sequence was two-way communication. Aliens(lets not forget that they are alien. Our concepts are largelly unknown to them, as well as our biological structure, hence why they spent entire movie trying to connect to us, unsuccessfully) just reproduced the one synonym of peace they learned from Setsuna's consciousness.It also showed that ELS are finally capable of understanding biology of humans,because the flower resembled the organic ones. And the ending? why doe sit matter on what happened to Sumeragi and others? we got to see what happens to humanity, how both newfound contact and innovator increase affects its existence. It also confirms many theories people had during first/second season that Innovators are bassically pinnacle of space-faring-humanity, adapted especially for long-term space exploration. They have stronger physique, telepathic abilities, greater reflexes, longer lifespans and are very fit for both diplomacy(due to telepathy) and exploration of space. Its clear that by the rate its going, soon entirety of human population will be innovators and in sense, the old kind of humans will disappear, with everyone in new humanity being able to share thoughts in the collective-consciousness kind of way(in as sense, quite similar on how ELS communicate) Misunderstanding was cleared the moment he communicated successfully with ELS, who were never actually trying to attack and were trying to understand/gather info(unsuccessfully because they could not comprehend human biology) only after humanity took aggressive approach, else went into actual war. Thus clearing the misunderstanding about the first-shots and other things, allowed ELS(who in idea were pretty much pacifistic, because form the very start they had a shared consciousness and humanity was the first alien threat they encountered on their way to survival) to stop attacking. And yes Setsuna is big. If innovators are the pinnacle of human existence, Setsuna is the pinnacle of innovator existence, with capabilities of things like traveling space with only his own mind, a sort of beginning of omni-presence...and various other things. As been said before he is Bowman, the "star child" of this franchise. And by the end he most likely is immortal. He is just showcase of human potential. Movie explained everything, one just has to look deep enough. |
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| Maybe another movie is in the works? That would be truly be groundbreaking, considering it would most probably be INTER-GALACTIC, first ever for a Gundam series. All Gundams thus far are confined to the Solar System. |
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| I liked the movie for its good action and soundtrack I think the ending would of been better if they extended it a little and give the aliens a little more motivation (still confused why they attacked to begin with) Poor Graham I liked his character with that aside what bug me was the weird time skip in the epilogue, maybe another year later or something along those lines would be better so we see what other characters are up too. Cause silver Setsuna and old lady Marina seemed odd to me. beyond that i did enjoy the action and the soundtrack was great, lots of good moments and i wasn't bored even once, so it was at least worth the watch 7/10 |
pepperjackpimp said: I think the ending would of been better if they extended it a little and give the aliens a little more motivation (still confused why they attacked to begin with) it was telegraphed quite good. Remember technically humans first attacked them by destroying the ship from jupiter. AFter that ELS did not actively attack earth, they tried to "combine" with those who had high density of quantum brainwaves. In a sense they were trying to communicate with humans back then, but were unsuccessful, both due to the different mind patterns(as even those who could hear them, could not take the info and understand it) and biological differences(they are made out of metal and act as hive mind, and possibly they have never seen another species. Its only normal that our bilogical system was a mistery to them, till they finally got it right(with that innovator girl, after quite some time, as they have gathered info from those they killed by trying to combine) In a sense, ELS did not actively attack for the sake of attacking till certain moment. then it slowly escalated into a big war between two frightened species that are too different to understand each other at the first contact. Its actually impossible to give clearer motivation to an alien species that has an entirelly different mindsets, values and biology. They are too, well, alien, to be clearly defined by our morals, but according to their actions the above explanation is as close as we can get to describe their pov of the accident with our humanly words. That in itself reminds me of many examples, for example Robert J. Sawyer's Calculating God novel, where there were an alien species for whom math or ANYTHING with counting is entirely mind-breathtakingly impossible to understand due to them NOT having five fingers and being unable to develop basic calculus skills. Another example is The Horror Out of Time by R.Garriot. Which deals around a person exploring vast ruins that have just risen from the ocean and being frightened by horrible and unimaginable things in there like Quoting that book: |
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| I didn't hear the song that they used in the trailers.Did i missed something or they decided to remove it? -Change by uverworld- |
| It was funny that Patrick survived till the end o.o He really never dies ;o |
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| This to me is not comparable to the likes of the UC movies, but it was a fitting end to a very good series. This movie tried really hard to be GAINAX! They introduced entities that are foreign to the Gundam canon. Simply put SUNRISE will never, ever, should never try and duplicate the surreal nature of GAINAX series like TTGL, FLCL, AND EVANGELION. Should stick to the more grounded science base storyline. Either way this movie was fun; very enjoyable to watch. |
| That was one of the most incredible gundam movie I've ever seen.The aliens,new gundam,the battle and the ending is all impressive but too bad they didn't actually tell exactly what happen to other meister like Lockon and Allelujah !! |
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| I didn't disliked the movie like many others. Although I did had some complaints, yes. I think they focused way much screentime on supporting characters like Billy, for example. The main ones didn't do much and Setsuna's role wasn't that great in the movie. Feldt was being around him but he didn't care much. On the other hand, thanks goodness that Saji was better-- In the second season he was so annoying. Also... The 2 new characters offered nothing, they were not necessary to be added. And lastly about the ending. I liked the ending after 50 years, it was a bit sad to see Marina like this, but it was quite emotional. We didn't saw what happened to the others, but I imagine they were either very old (and nothing interesting to be shown) or dead. Although I didn't understood if Setsuna was both Innovator/ELS. It wasn't that bad, anyways. I'd like to see something more involving the universe of 00, maybe a prequel before A.D 2364. |
| Well it was good to see everyone in the series once again and how they lived thier lifes before this wierd phenomenon. The movie was really not worth it for the long wait idk i would want a new gundam series to start right now!! |
| Someone call O'Neill, Jackson, Carter, and Teal'c! We got some serious replicators on the loose. At the same time... Frito said: This movie tried really hard to be GAINAX! They introduced entities that are foreign to the Gundam canon. Simply put SUNRISE will never, ever, should never try and duplicate the surreal nature of GAINAX series like TTGL, FLCL, AND EVANGELION. Should stick to the more grounded science base storyline. I agree with this part of this post. |
| i like the pew pew part (face it, it's gundam, there should be fight scenes damnit!) patrick cracks me up!! but ending was abrupt and ugh..... my take is tat setsuna has willingly assimilated with the ELS so that he would understand them better. but i don't understand the part where the ELS stopped fighting so abruptly and flower appears? |
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| Awesome movie, was really great with all that pew pew, made me feel like gundam seed again, but that ending, fuc***ing srsly, a flower, srsly, made me go nerd rage, i feel heavily trolled, who the hell produce this? /b? ffs. might as well put troll.jpg instead of the flower... |
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DinaraC said: but i don't understand the part where the ELS stopped fighting so abruptly and flower appears? Setsuna's contact and mind-connection to ELS allowed them to finally get enough io to understand human morals. Aliens have no understanding on human society, human biology or human mind. Setsuna being able to actually talk to them worked as two way communication, clearling the miscommunication from before (both when earth shot down the jupiter probe and when ELS on earth trying to assimilate were shot by setsuna.) Bassically before that each side though that their enemy means them bad things. The flower Setsuna associates with peace and solutions of conflicts. ELS bassically replicated that concept of Setsuna's mind. felo said: Awesome movie, was really great with all that pew pew, made me feel like gundam seed again, but that ending, fuc***ing srsly, a flower, srsly, made me go nerd rage, i feel heavily trolled, who the hell produce this? /b? ffs. might as well put troll.jpg instead of the flower... Oh? so what should have happened? Humanity should have eradicated ELS proving Aeoliar wrong and showing everyone on how worthless they are as the race destined to destroy others and themselves over and over again? Frito said: This movie tried really hard to be GAINAX! They introduced entities that are foreign to the Gundam canon. Simply put SUNRISE will never, ever, should never try and duplicate the surreal nature of GAINAX series like TTGL, FLCL, AND EVANGELION. Should stick to the more grounded science base storyline. Either way this movie was fun; very enjoyable to watch.[/quote I am sorry but since when introducing aliens means you are copying anime made by Gainax.2 The concept of aliens, especially realistic non-oxigen-bearthers have been older than entire scifi genre. OFr example most of HP Lovecraft's works focussed on bizzare surreal alien creatures, most of whom would cause humans to go insane from seeing them. And thats as early as 1902. its as old as different impossible to understand moral systems (so called blue and orange morality, compared to white and black), which was there even longer, since the faeries were thought up in medieval ages. Its a VERY old concept, which was mostly silenced by cheesy pulp-scifi novels, shows and movies who usually featured humanoid aliens so the mainstream public can understand. |
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| What was that ending? Totally came out of nowhere. Heavily disappointed. I don't know what they were thinking ending it at such a point but I couldn't care less for the story behind it, it felt so unbelievably unfulfilling. Season 1 and 2 blew this out of the water. Being leniant I give this a 7/10, the fight scenes saved it for me. Also, Setsuna being the Silver Surfer is always a plus. |
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| Nice explosions. So aside from that, what was the point of this movie anyway? |
Fai said: DinaraC said: but i don't understand the part where the ELS stopped fighting so abruptly and flower appears? Setsuna's contact and mind-connection to ELS allowed them to finally get enough io to understand human morals. Aliens have no understanding on human society, human biology or human mind. Setsuna being able to actually talk to them worked as two way communication, clearling the miscommunication from before (both when earth shot down the jupiter probe and when ELS on earth trying to assimilate were shot by setsuna.) Bassically before that each side though that their enemy means them bad things. The flower Setsuna associates with peace and solutions of conflicts. ELS bassically replicated that concept of Setsuna's mind. felo said: Awesome movie, was really great with all that pew pew, made me feel like gundam seed again, but that ending, fuc***ing srsly, a flower, srsly, made me go nerd rage, i feel heavily trolled, who the hell produce this? /b? ffs. might as well put troll.jpg instead of the flower... Oh? so what should have happened? Humanity should have eradicated ELS proving Aeoliar wrong and showing everyone on how worthless they are as the race destined to destroy others and themselves over and over again? Frito said: This movie tried really hard to be GAINAX! They introduced entities that are foreign to the Gundam canon. Simply put SUNRISE will never, ever, should never try and duplicate the surreal nature of GAINAX series like TTGL, FLCL, AND EVANGELION. Should stick to the more grounded science base storyline. Either way this movie was fun; very enjoyable to watch.[/quote I am sorry but since when introducing aliens means you are copying anime made by Gainax.2 The concept of aliens, especially realistic non-oxigen-bearthers have been older than entire scifi genre. OFr example most of HP Lovecraft's works focussed on bizzare surreal alien creatures, most of whom would cause humans to go insane from seeing them. And thats as early as 1902. its as old as different impossible to understand moral systems (so called blue and orange morality, compared to white and black), which was there even longer, since the faeries were thought up in medieval ages. Its a VERY old concept, which was mostly silenced by cheesy pulp-scifi novels, shows and movies who usually featured humanoid aliens so the mainstream public can understand. Fai said: DinaraC said: but i don't understand the part where the ELS stopped fighting so abruptly and flower appears? Setsuna's contact and mind-connection to ELS allowed them to finally get enough io to understand human morals. Aliens have no understanding on human society, human biology or human mind. Setsuna being able to actually talk to them worked as two way communication, clearling the miscommunication from before (both when earth shot down the jupiter probe and when ELS on earth trying to assimilate were shot by setsuna.) Bassically before that each side though that their enemy means them bad things. The flower Setsuna associates with peace and solutions of conflicts. ELS bassically replicated that concept of Setsuna's mind. felo said: Awesome movie, was really great with all that pew pew, made me feel like gundam seed again, but that ending, fuc***ing srsly, a flower, srsly, made me go nerd rage, i feel heavily trolled, who the hell produce this? /b? ffs. might as well put troll.jpg instead of the flower... Oh? so what should have happened? Humanity should have eradicated ELS proving Aeoliar wrong and showing everyone on how worthless they are as the race destined to destroy others and themselves over and over again? Frito said: The existence of ELS was acceptable in all accounts. Aliens can be anything from a drop of rice to freaking giant humanoid gorillas. But they clearly copied the flow, the look and the ambiance from the likes of Evangelion and TTGL. Them threading and exploring a totally new dimension etc is not Gundam like. That said those two also borrowed aspects from different sci fi genre. Everything is borrowed in the entertainment industry you hardly get a totally new, genuine experience. Should've have kept the story more grounded. The shit that they started yelling out at the end was unnecessary laughter. Seriously for a movie that had it going the first half of the show, and totally botch the ending. You cannot justify that. ELS was a cool concept. Even their existence is borrowed from the likes of T1000 from the Terminator series. This movie tried really hard to be GAINAX! They introduced entities that are foreign to the Gundam canon. Simply put SUNRISE will never, ever, should never try and duplicate the surreal nature of GAINAX series like TTGL, FLCL, AND EVANGELION. Should stick to the more grounded science base storyline. Either way this movie was fun; very enjoyable to watch.[/quote I am sorry but since when introducing aliens means you are copying anime made by Gainax.2 The concept of aliens, especially realistic non-oxigen-bearthers have been older than entire scifi genre. OFr example most of HP Lovecraft's works focussed on bizzare surreal alien creatures, most of whom would cause humans to go insane from seeing them. And thats as early as 1902. its as old as different impossible to understand moral systems (so called blue and orange morality, compared to white and black), which was there even longer, since the faeries were thought up in medieval ages. Its a VERY old concept, which was mostly silenced by cheesy pulp-scifi novels, shows and movies who usually featured humanoid aliens so the mainstream public can understand. One more thing is that I don't know about you but Descartes was a wasted character, could've been more vital to how subplot moves forward. ELS could've used him as a pawn or a terminal to communicate but then SUNRISE didn't really go that route. They fucked up dude, you know it. Everyone I talked to liked the first half, but they seriously fucked up the other half. |
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| I like how the movie emphasized understanding, yet the last words on the screen were in English. The Japanese audiences are REALLY going to know what it meant. As someone mentioned earlier, I gave this a 7/10 mainly because of the animation sequences and battle choegraphy. Seriously thought there was double rainbow pew pew action going on cause they literally had that many colours on each frame. I'm disappointed in the ending, but at least it was a giant space flower and not a giant heart carved into the moon like in Eureka Seven. |
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| watched it... felt like the whole thing was directed by micheal bay... |
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| Did I just watch Gundam 00 merging with Gunbuster ? Anyway, except for the music and animation, it was pretty boring and pointless. I felt absolutely nothing watching this movie, so I don't really know what I could write about it... |
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| Amazing beyond words. Characters were relegated to being tools for the plot, but I didn't care - we already know who they are from the last 50 episodes of character development. Romance was the standard shounen garbage, but I don't care. The plot was simplistic, but still superb. The aliens were portrayed sympathetically rather than just being mindless killing machines. Setsuna was badass (Wormhole Drive!). But most importantly, the action sequences were amazing beyond words. This is what all anime action movies should be. 10/10. |
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| Liked this movie! 9/10 for me. |
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| enjoyed the movie but still.. ALIENS?? after 2 seasons of war, politics and elaborate talks about peace that made my head hurt they end the series with aliens.. what is this Eureka 7?? OTL |
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tinman21 said: I like how both seasons and the movie are all different from each other like that. First season being CB vs Earth's military, second season being CB vs a group of people (Ribbons and Innovades) and Trailblazer being humanity vs an extraterrestrial threat.enjoyed the movie but still.. ALIENS?? One thing I would've liked to be different in the movie is the ELS actually transforming into the 00-Raiser and Gadelaza. That would've been so awesome. I've read this actually happens in the manga. |
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| Anyone else who laughed their ass off at Feldt? Every God damn time she appeared on screen she moaned "Setsuna", it became a freaking parody of itself. All and all, shitacular plot (aliens in a Gundam movie? Get out!) with the pointless sacrifice of a couple of characters in a sad attempt to give the show some weight, the wth moment of introducing a new character only to have him die without getting explored in the slightest or even contributing anything to the plot as well as Setsuna being even more devoid of a personality than before. I give it 6/10 because the first half was decent, the animations were good and the space battle in the end was nice. |
| This season is a fail because MISTER BUSHIDO! HE IS NO LONGER. T_T |
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| I thought it was okay, I give it a 7/10. The overall message of the story was nice, but I think it would have been better if it wasn't a Gundam 00 movie. I mean, after watching the series, this movie left me with many questions. The action and animation was pretty good, but I don't know. It's a 2 hour movie, but it felt like a 1 hour movie to me. It lacked depth for a 2 hour movie, but was a good watch nonetheless. |
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| Eh, the ending was too rushed. Also I really wanted an epilogue on the others... Not just stupid Setsuna. >=( |
| I'll just treat the events on this movie as a separate universe. The alien invasion theme somewhat strayed off from the more "realistic" theme of the two seasons of the TV series. I liked the movie but I was expecting something more. I would have flipped if there's a scene where Marina sings and reaches Setsuna, ala Macross :D Good movie, personal rating of 7.5/10. |
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| First of all, I can't understand why people are so surprised that the main antagonist were aliens. Like Tieria didn't say that CB main goal was to unite the world FOR THE UPCOMING DIALOG, so with who else should humankind speak if not whit aliens, not to mention thh last minutes of second season(4 lights flying from Jupiter ) and the whole "humanity childhood has ended". To me aliens were so obvious the moment is finished the TV series. The main problem was that all suggested an invasion, and that Aeolia goal was to unite humans so the could fight as one. At one point I even thought that Aeolia meet whit the aliens personally, and that the GN drivers were of alien design(since the could be only build on Jupiter) and that the whole thing was a test preformed by some advance race to see if humankind could unite. Instead we got a bunch of hive mind(a concept totally original and not used almost always when portraying aliens) polygons, I mean WTF ? A bunch of polygons !? I know that aliens will most likely not resemble little green man but i would prefer something that would look even a little like a freaking life form rather than some spontaneously appearing crystals. The second biggest downer when it comes to ELC or what the hell was their name is their motive. What exactly did the seek from humans ? If they home planet was destroyed and they wanted to invade earth, why didn't they do so, than again if they home is destroyed what's the point of Mary Sue(AKA Setsuna Faggot Seien) to go there. All the aliens did was emerge from Jupiter go to earth, have a clash with humans, make a big gay flower as sign of peace and then disappear. This where the major plot holes, the minor annoying one were: no real screen time for the main characters(id rather see the crew of CB talking than shooting at silver polygons), and the deus ex machina instead of a real ending, and yes a real ending would include an explanation of the aliens motives and showing what happened tho the main characters. When I watched this movie it didn't felt like watching Gundam 00, it felt like watching something else, a weird SF movie full of pseudo philosophies, that failed hard at making sens, and a major plot hole. |
adis said: First of all, I can't understand why people are so surprised that the main antagonist were aliens. Like Tieria didn't say that CB main goal was to unite the world FOR THE UPCOMING DIALOG, so with who else should humankind speak if not whit aliens, not to mention thh last minutes of second season(4 lights flying from Jupiter ) and the whole "humanity childhood has ended". To me aliens were so obvious the moment is finished the TV series. The main problem was that all suggested an invasion, and that Aeolia goal was to unite humans so the could fight as one. At one point I even thought that Aeolia meet whit the aliens personally, and that the GN drivers were of alien design(since the could be only build on Jupiter) and that the whole thing was a test preformed by some advance race to see if humankind could unite. Instead we got a bunch of hive mind(a concept totally original and not used almost always when portraying aliens) polygons, I mean WTF ? A bunch of polygons !? I know that aliens will most likely not resemble little green man but i would prefer something that would look even a little like a freaking life form rather than some spontaneously appearing crystals. The second biggest downer when it comes to ELC or what the hell was their name is their motive. What exactly did the seek from humans ? If they home planet was destroyed and they wanted to invade earth, why didn't they do so, than again if they home is destroyed what's the point of Mary Sue(AKA Setsuna Faggot Seien) to go there. All the aliens did was emerge from Jupiter go to earth, have a clash with humans, make a big gay flower as sign of peace and then disappear. Even Setsuna said ELS hivemind wanted understand (other live beings) by assimilation, if they wanted just another home planet jupter would be a good choice because jupter looked alike the home planet of them(Gas giant), they wanted to understand but they were doing it wrong so Setsuna helped them to do it right. That gay flower was a symbol of peace that ELS took from Setsuna mind,this is the flower from the very first episode, that was the last thing that still exists on Setsuna destroyed homeland, the only thing that still grows on that place. Setsuna and ELS where alike, instead of just moving to a new homeland they wanted to understand people/beings around them, both of them had his homeland destroyed, both got the same answer to their questions. EELS did not disappear but rather changed the way of assimilation, in which human beings do not suffer damage, in other words, symbiosis, Setsuna and ELS-tan says hi. |
SetsunaFromSeieiJan 14, 2011 7:32 PM
| Actually the flower part i did get, the motive and what happened with the ELS part's eluded me. |
| I felt like the movie's plot was too normal and nothing special, nothing was able to wow me, it's just good, not great not average just good, and I wonder what happened to the rest of the characters, Feldt, Ptolemaios and the rest of the characters, why give such ending? hurmmmm =.= |
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| The whole ELS planet was converted into metal structure and flied away from TOTAL anihilation, this was showed on the movie. |
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