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Aug 5, 2014 2:44 PM
#351
Mayuka

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Sir_Lexa said:
Nope, Sora is the biggest bitch in the history if anime.

+1
Aug 9, 2014 8:31 PM
#352
Tendou-kun

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God thanks it's over :')
Aug 15, 2014 3:10 PM
#353
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I must admit, this arc was handled much better than most shows in this "genre". If only the rest of the show was this good. The series wouldn't have lost much if the other arcs didn't exist. In fact, the show would've been much better if the character development of the other girls were integrated into one long Sora's arc (or rather, main plot), instead of just copying the routes from the VN and awkwardly patching them together.
Aug 18, 2014 2:36 PM
#354
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Sir_Lexa said:
yyaziK said:


Nope, Sora isn't a bitch.


Nope, Sora is the biggest bitch in the history of anime.

Every creeper just lets the twincest blind them and they can't see what a horrible and bratty human being this stupid bitch is.

EDIT: Stupid typo.


Great argument kid

Fail
Aug 20, 2014 3:37 PM
#355
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TheGrandSage23 said:
Sir_Lexa said:


Nope, Sora is the biggest bitch in the history of anime.

Every creeper just lets the twincest blind them and they can't see what a horrible and bratty human being this stupid bitch is.

EDIT: Stupid typo.


Great argument kid

Fail


Not arguing here. Since it's a fact.

Fail.

And I must have missed when you came up with a great argument, where you prove Sora isn't a stuck up bitch. Who's selfish, immature and overall a nasty person. (Like her nasty feelings towards her twin was not enough)
Sir_LexaAug 20, 2014 3:47 PM
Aug 29, 2014 1:20 PM
#356
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Sir_Lexa said:
yyaziK said:


Nope, Sora isn't a bitch.


Nope, Sora is the biggest bitch in the history of anime.

Every creeper just lets the twincest blind them and they can't see what a horrible and bratty human being this stupid bitch is.

EDIT: Stupid typo.


Can't take you seriously anymore lmao

Pretty late on this reply but w/e yolo :3
Aug 30, 2014 3:38 PM
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Oh yh if anyone wants to know: During the lake scene Haru and Sora have sex as a way to "warm up" after they embrace each other, so that's why there's a cut scene which resulted in both of them being undressed and half naked etc :3

If you play the VN(visual novel) like myself then you'll know as well haha c:

Proof(lol):
http://puu.sh/bevxf/fd1af5783b.png > http://puu.sh/bevKO/48e4d69ba2.jpg(lol)

cya!

le swag 0ut
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Sep 2, 2014 9:13 AM
#358
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I m sorry but probably this is a stupid question. At the lake scene where both of them drowned. Is it Sora knows how to swim and she saved Haruka? Because we know Haruka couldn't swim. Lol
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Sep 2, 2014 3:40 PM
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sarkh said:
I m sorry but probably this is a stupid question. At the lake scene where both of them drowned. Is it Sora knows how to swim and she saved Haruka? Because we know Haruka couldn't swim. Lol


Yh she knows how to swim(despite her weak body she is a good swimmer), but dumbasses cba to actually play the vn or read the manga to know that she saves him when he almost drowns at the pool as well... also both the vn and manga included the part where Haru is near death and he tells Sora to help him and how he's a coward for trying to take the "easy way out" when she rescues him she also says that before he passed out, he blurted "Help me"


The creators did a great job stirring up these dead theories, if that was their overall objective with leaving out these important factors/attributes, but honestly all the answers lie within the vn, and if you try to say that they "died" just because of what the anime showcased, then please re-evaluate your "theory" and install the damn vn(or at least read the manga, it's really short as well but the only arc that's shown is Sora's+ it didn't really go in-depth in their relationship)
yyaziKSep 2, 2014 3:49 PM
Sep 18, 2014 6:21 AM
#360
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he shouldve boned kozou somewhere along the line
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Oct 3, 2014 7:16 AM
#361
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Just looking back through some of these pages of comments makes my head hurt. It looks worse than the average seasonal hyped anime.

I appreciate the 'attempt' with what they tried to do with the story but it was just utterly awful. So many H-scenes came out of nowhere and all I could see was the BD sales chart getting bigger and bigger appealing to lonely otaku wishing to dodge the censoring.

Some of the character interactions literally blew my mind, whoever wrote it was so out of touch with reality that even average conversations at school seemed to be utterly dreadful. Were they never a student? When was the last time they interacted with another human being? In one of the earlier episodes Haru was talking to a girl and his guy friend came along and randomly grabbed them and pushed them closer so their bodies were touching and told them they should be talking closer. What the fuck did I even witness in this series.

The opening was very pleasant, productions values were absurdly high, quite surprising actually. The OST was great and handled very well, lots of good usage of it. Everything that didn't involve character writing or script was perfect, even if a lot of the female characters felt shoe-horned into their designs with big breasts and alike, I kinda liked them. Sora's design as cute. Shame she wasn't whenever she opened her mouth. In the first episode she was moaning because she walked for 10 fucking minutes. Holy christ I hated everyone by the end of this series. From the MC piloted by his penis to every vegetable female character.

If they stuck with a similar theme but toned down the long h-scenes or at least gave resolution and climaxes to different pairings in a non-stupid way then this series could've been great. That and if it wasn't written by a caveman judging by some of the dialogue.
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Oct 16, 2014 8:00 AM
#362
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RyanSaotome said:
Joyce_Steele said:


I was actually thinking the same thing. And they made no mention of how Sora saved Haru in the water since they were like at least 30 feet under water sinking. It would be improbable to survive that.


I think they are also dead (anime told manner), they made two "ways" in this episode, an supernatural good ending and symbolic bad ending.
Oct 27, 2014 5:38 PM
#363
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mayukachan said:
Sir_Lexa said:
Nope, Sora is the biggest bitch in the history if anime.

+1


Sora was a possessive bitch. She didn't Haru hanging out with anyone expect her. His friends were accepting of her, but she was still a bitch! She is a bigger bitch than Suzuka from Suzuka. I can't stand that chick either!
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nigga i am black, do you think my ass would fit in? "Oh look it is negro kun." Hell no.
Nov 3, 2014 9:23 PM
#364
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LOL! So you walk in on someone ramming his sister doggie style. Of course I wouldn't run away yelling. hey should have locked the door. And the other two should have knocked before entertaining someones house. Haruka with the pimp slap.
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Nov 4, 2014 4:57 PM
#365
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This is my first post on this forum and hopefully not the last.
I give this anime 4/5. I would like to give a 5 but there are some things that bothered me.

It was not funny. Not a single second!
It was not erotic. Hell I would even say that the h-scenes were unnecessary.
Its just sad. Even after the happy end.

I think it was a mistake from the makers to try to follow the game and create several arcs. I liked the last one the most and I feel that the rest was forced into the anime.
Its not a game and it shouldnt be like a game.


Someone wrote here that "Yosuga no Sora" was on top of a list of animes, which parents consider dangerous for their children. I can understand why.

That whole damn plot shattered all my beliefs about incest.

But this is not the topic here.
I beliefe that the death theories are nonsense.
Just stop killing people.

1. I dont think that someone saved them.(and left them alone)
2. Sora can swim.
3. She is capable to save her brother, because its easier to lift someone in the water.
Especially if you have a reason to try hard and Sora had one.
4. As it was told, they survived the game and the manga, so why they should be dead in the anime? Some people just interpret too much.

And now I will have some fun.
My own theory is that the most people who wish them to be deat are just disappointed by the ending. Whyever...-.-



Have a nice day.

animacion1
Nov 7, 2014 10:03 PM
#366
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It was pretty decent overall. I stumbled across this while looking for a romantic anime that actually included scenes with love making, just for that added passion in the moments, and it did it's job well enough. Never once did the whole "incest" thing really bother me, but it's not necessarily what I was looking for either.

My only real complaint, and this is definitely more of a personal one, was the order of the various arcs. My favorites were easily Sora and Kazu, so during the middle section I just found myself not really caring about the romantic aspect of things, and without that, this show doesn't really have much going for it. I would've much preferred if they started with Nao, followed by Akira, Kazu, and Sora. I feel the bonds Haru had with Kazu and Sora were just so much greater. Again, that's just personal opinion.

Overall, I'd give it a 7/10
Nov 8, 2014 2:49 PM
#367
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Only the last 3 episodes were interesting and those idiots should've drowned together.
Jan 23, 2015 10:21 PM
#368
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So, that was an interesting anime to say the least. I enjoyed the OST and the art style. The story had its ups and downs.
I think that there were some unneeded H-scenes though, specifically the ones in the first and second arc. Those two would have still felt the same without the H-scenes. The twincest didn't bother me at all, honestly. I was much more bothered by Nao and Haru as children doing it...

This last arc though, I really thought it had a nice story. This last episode was especially well done. I wish they would've used 10 or so seconds to show Sora wrecking her room and the dinner table. I also like how Sora went to the lake after Akira explained the whole rebirth thing.

I just have to say, Sora's character design (the visuals I mean) is one of my favorites out of almost every anime I've ever watched. It's just something about her design that makes her look so cute.
Feb 1, 2015 12:04 AM
#369
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SoftCake said:
Only the last 3 episodes were interesting and those idiots should've drowned together.
bro, they're dead.

1) The stuffed rabbit was seen still ripped up in sora's bedroom, when their friends visited their house after they supposedly left. Then when you see them on the train in the end, the rabbit is in one piece and with sora.

2) the text message the rich girl got, you can see there wasn't an email address on it, even though she was reading an email. Yes, in Japan it's easier to text through email than sms. why? you may ask. It might just be easier to cope with loss of two friends, if they all just believe they moved away. They said it themselves, sora and haru were the glue that kept their circle together. It would have been devastating to suddenly lose people like that. Also when she's reading the text, she looks away in the typical anime trope fashion, signaling to the audience that she's lying.

3) sora and haru don't know how to swim. Even if sora knew how to swim in the VN, it's evident she couldn't in the anime. She started drowning the second she got into the deep end. There also wasn't any scenes in the show that indicated she could swim and haru told nao he needed swimming lessons.

4) sora was the first one to pass out, but was also the first one to be awake after they got back on dry land. pretty much blatantly shows she passed onto the afterlife first

5) Even if Sora even did know how to swim, how exactly would a character frequently described as weak and frail, be able to carry her larger brother out of the water and up some steps when he's fully unconscious? Especially with the fact that when they both started sinking, sora was powerless to keep them afloat

6) Throughout the season, haru says that they don't have much money since their parent's died. How are they going to pay for 2 airplane tickets and multiple train rides to get to where they're going. Not to mention they're moving to completely new city.

7) when Haru ask's if they're dead, sora doesn't answer...instead she makes a sad look


No guys, using evidence from the VN doesn't count because the anime is it's own entity and should be treated as such. It would be as stupid as trying to use stuff that happened in Game of thrones/ASoIF books to show an ability a character had in the TV show when they we're shown to have it in the TV show.

Overall I thought the show had an awesome sad ending, I just wish it was more blatant to avoid people stampering their feet because they thought it was cop out "happy" ending.
pandapal95Feb 1, 2015 12:18 AM
Feb 26, 2015 4:10 AM
#370
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Bullshit. This show really could have used not doing the arc thing; also too much drama... get rid of this realism from my fantasy shows please... Could have been handled much better.
Feb 27, 2015 2:30 AM
#371
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since they eloped at the new school they could say we r engaged so we have same last name and it just so happened we look similar or u can say we r cousins so yeah its not like they could of had trouble getting around the incest issue also u dont have to get married just because u love someone
Apr 23, 2015 3:55 PM
#372
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pandapal95 said:
SoftCake said:
Only the last 3 episodes were interesting and those idiots should've drowned together.
bro, they're dead.

1) The stuffed rabbit was seen still ripped up in sora's bedroom, when their friends visited their house after they supposedly left. Then when you see them on the train in the end, the rabbit is in one piece and with sora.

2) the text message the rich girl got, you can see there wasn't an email address on it, even though she was reading an email. Yes, in Japan it's easier to text through email than sms. why? you may ask. It might just be easier to cope with loss of two friends, if they all just believe they moved away. They said it themselves, sora and haru were the glue that kept their circle together. It would have been devastating to suddenly lose people like that. Also when she's reading the text, she looks away in the typical anime trope fashion, signaling to the audience that she's lying.

3) sora and haru don't know how to swim. Even if sora knew how to swim in the VN, it's evident she couldn't in the anime. She started drowning the second she got into the deep end. There also wasn't any scenes in the show that indicated she could swim and haru told nao he needed swimming lessons.

4) sora was the first one to pass out, but was also the first one to be awake after they got back on dry land. pretty much blatantly shows she passed onto the afterlife first

5) Even if Sora even did know how to swim, how exactly would a character frequently described as weak and frail, be able to carry her larger brother out of the water and up some steps when he's fully unconscious? Especially with the fact that when they both started sinking, sora was powerless to keep them afloat

6) Throughout the season, haru says that they don't have much money since their parent's died. How are they going to pay for 2 airplane tickets and multiple train rides to get to where they're going. Not to mention they're moving to completely new city.

7) when Haru ask's if they're dead, sora doesn't answer...instead she makes a sad look


No guys, using evidence from the VN doesn't count because the anime is it's own entity and should be treated as such. It would be as stupid as trying to use stuff that happened in Game of thrones/ASoIF books to show an ability a character had in the TV show when they we're shown to have it in the TV show.

Overall I thought the show had an awesome sad ending, I just wish it was more blatant to avoid people stampering their feet because they thought it was cop out "happy" ending.


Being this delusional...

For me it was 10/10 and I'm talking about the ending to this last arc. It's rare to see an actual incest ending and in my opinion it was executed very well. Sure I haven't played the game so I don't know how faithful is that adaptation but I as a viewer am very pleased with this series. Now, tike to check other titles.

BTW are those BD OVAs/extras worth watching?
Apr 24, 2015 3:38 PM
#373
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ma_ko said:
pandapal95 said:
bro, they're dead.

1) The stuffed rabbit was seen still ripped up in sora's bedroom, when their friends visited their house after they supposedly left. Then when you see them on the train in the end, the rabbit is in one piece and with sora.

2) the text message the rich girl got, you can see there wasn't an email address on it, even though she was reading an email. Yes, in Japan it's easier to text through email than sms. why? you may ask. It might just be easier to cope with loss of two friends, if they all just believe they moved away. They said it themselves, sora and haru were the glue that kept their circle together. It would have been devastating to suddenly lose people like that. Also when she's reading the text, she looks away in the typical anime trope fashion, signaling to the audience that she's lying.

3) sora and haru don't know how to swim. Even if sora knew how to swim in the VN, it's evident she couldn't in the anime. She started drowning the second she got into the deep end. There also wasn't any scenes in the show that indicated she could swim and haru told nao he needed swimming lessons.

4) sora was the first one to pass out, but was also the first one to be awake after they got back on dry land. pretty much blatantly shows she passed onto the afterlife first

5) Even if Sora even did know how to swim, how exactly would a character frequently described as weak and frail, be able to carry her larger brother out of the water and up some steps when he's fully unconscious? Especially with the fact that when they both started sinking, sora was powerless to keep them afloat

6) Throughout the season, haru says that they don't have much money since their parent's died. How are they going to pay for 2 airplane tickets and multiple train rides to get to where they're going. Not to mention they're moving to completely new city.

7) when Haru ask's if they're dead, sora doesn't answer...instead she makes a sad look


No guys, using evidence from the VN doesn't count because the anime is it's own entity and should be treated as such. It would be as stupid as trying to use stuff that happened in Game of thrones/ASoIF books to show an ability a character had in the TV show when they we're shown to have it in the TV show.

Overall I thought the show had an awesome sad ending, I just wish it was more blatant to avoid people stampering their feet because they thought it was cop out "happy" ending.


Being this delusional...

For me it was 10/10 and I'm talking about the ending to this last arc. It's rare to see an actual incest ending and in my opinion it was executed very well. Sure I haven't played the game so I don't know how faithful is that adaptation but I as a viewer am very pleased with this series. Now, tike to check other titles.

BTW are those BD OVAs/extras worth watching?
Being this Passive Agressive....
May 3, 2015 12:51 PM
#374
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I honestly didn't know what I just finished. The episodes getting clashed on each other's arc. Also MC having sex on each girls, with different situation as if an alternate universe. An incest, but I'm okay with that because Sora is cute and I don't mind if they're brother-sister because I just want Sora to be happy lol. Enjoyable anime overall, Sora also have the last arc, which is the best arc.

May 8, 2015 11:41 AM
#375
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First things first, Yosuga no Sora has something which is a rarity in harem genre - good male lead. Haruka was not indecisive main lead and story actually progressed quite well. That alone would give this anime high praise.

This is complemented by using reset button, which is a second good thing. So far I have seen mostly harem anime where romance progresses nowhere and one of two anime where main lead chooses one girl over others and I had some sort of problem with almost all of them. However, Yosuga no Sora completely erases this by giving all girls nearly same amount of screen time and a having Haruka complete all routes. Simply put, problems like non advancing romance or choosing female lead watcher didn't love cannot exist.

Finally, most controversial part of this anime - Incest. Do not get me wrong, I am not a big fan of incest. It found it interesting because it is a taboo and that is all. What I loved for a change is that this was pure, 100% incest. We usually get treatment like - "I am not your blood relative, so maybe it is incest, maybe it is not". It really annoyed me, because just like indecisive MC it goes back and forth and ultimately ends nowhere. Yosuga no Sora put no breaks there. They said they were going for incest, and they went for it all the way. It was really refreshing to see anime which is not holding back. So maybe I will get hate, but for that I give it 9/10.
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May 24, 2015 9:36 AM
#376
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Hmm i just heard this from 9gag about 4 days ago and now after i watched all 12 episodes 2 times and read all the manga chapter, its safe to say that i love yosuga no sora :)

For me the sora ending is the best. Even though i'm not a fan of brother and sister having sex by any means, in this anime the incest stuff is justified. What i love the most is the pure love between the two that i can almost feel it literally. And at the last part when she kissed haru and told him "the crumb is gone now" and the music and everything is just SO DAMN GOOOOOODDDDD11!!!!111111!!1!.


Its a shame they wont come back to the village tho... because living just the two of them in a foreign country? Bitch please those 2 cant even speak english. But i think it gives more drama to it i guess...

Ps: im still hooked with toui sora he for a couple of days now
eyesteelgodeatMay 24, 2015 9:51 AM
May 25, 2015 12:10 PM
#377
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eyesteelgodeat said:

Ps: im still hooked with toui sora he for a couple of days now


Yeah that and "Old Memory" are just perfection, couldn't think of more fitting music for this anime.
Aug 7, 2015 10:03 PM
#378
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They are definitely alive. I believe the bear on the train was either a mistake, or a retarded move by the studio to make people discuss it. Why would Sora be wet and waiting for Haru to wake up if they both died? Why would they even be there if they died? Both in the visual novel and the manga they both survived exactly in the same manner as shown in the anime. So it boils down to the anime studio actually being faithful, but making some details hazy for giggles.
Aug 9, 2015 12:58 PM
#379
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TechnicalMonkey said:
Krandal said:
The problem with just buying a new rabbit is that it was a memento from her mother (if I remember correctly). Another rabbit that looked the same would hold no sentimental value...

Don't forget about having the same exact pattern of ribbon on the rabbit as well. As for the death cover-up, see my post just before this one.

Finally to answer about the phone numbers, it is possible that both twins had everyone's phone number. However, if I only had one person to send an email to I would send it to the person that knew the situation, knew me personally the most, and would be the most understanding. Nao fits that bill in this situation and not Kazuha.

Again, if I am wrong about all of this, their story would be really bad. I think the fact that you can draw a plausible conclusion opposite of the norm is what makes this story so good in my eyes.


You people seemed to have forgotten at the time that the siblings and Kazuha are the only ones to have cell phones in the town.
Aug 9, 2015 1:09 PM
#380
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Dunkmaru said:
Alright, this load of theories is really tiresome. Here's what happens in the visual novel, in case you guys want to compare:



Discuss.


Yeah, they both died in the anime. I mean, it's so different compared to the anime. In the anime, it was Sora who first begin drowning and struggling. Also, the anime had the ambiguous feeling of the afterlife with him asking if they were alive. This also makes sense in terms of reality; them living and having explicit relationship as depicted in the VN would have gotten that ban that the mayor wants so much.
Aug 9, 2015 1:19 PM
#381
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Fnights said:


Maugomale said:
Alright, this load of theories is really tiresome. Here's what happens in the visual novel, in case you guys want to compare:



Discuss.


So was Sora that save Haru, well she have a unbelievable strenght to be able to pull out haru from the bottom of the lake with the heavy clothes on. But well i guess this is the only explaination possible against the "death theory", this + the text message.


Remember, that was in the VN. But this is the anime.
Aug 9, 2015 1:24 PM
#382
Ken_Chen
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guyklc said:
Kozue's unwillingness to accept HaruxSora with all the talk about "it's just comes down to feelings" in the end really reminded me of what gay rights activists would say. Maybe incest would be the next kind of relationship to be accepted in our world? Lol.


I take it that you don't approve homosexuality?
Besides, what's wrong with incest really? And don't tell me it's because society says so, because I'll give you legit reasons to why finding the cure for incurable diseases such as cancer is a bad thing.
Aug 16, 2015 12:04 PM
#383
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I really don't know what to think about the ending of Yosuga no Sora. It's true that there are many proofs of their death, but in the other hand, i don't see why the anime ending would be different from the Visual Novel / Manga.

So i'm pretty sure that Sora or Nao/Akime helps Haru to get out of the water and they decided to leave that place quickly, for the bunny... Maybe she doesn't need it anymore and the new one is a symbol for their new relationship ?

And the discussion between the classmates is not the kind of discussion you can have is you're talking of dead people, right ?

But in the end, whatever, dead or alive ? Who cares ? Have you seen their face seriously ? They seem really happy, this is the important thing, the rest is secondary in my opinion.

Great anime, i shed a tear, i must admit. 9/10
Aug 31, 2015 12:45 PM
#384
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whoaa, as much I disliked the first half of series, I liked the last arc. Sora really saved the series for me.
Sep 7, 2015 12:59 AM
#385
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Hmm.... The finale is certainly unique unlike episodes 10 and 11. However, it was time for Haruka to face the facts; the "reality," as he said.

Kozue and Nao weren't ready to accept Haruka's relationship with Sora right away. Plus, there are those "real life" factors such as inbreeding, the guilt, etc. Sometimes I think it's necessary to think about these things before we assume things about the story. Haruka slapping Sora is certainly bad, but consider the tremendous stress laid upon him.

Sora had a blatantly strong bond with Haruka, that much is for certain. She also has dependency issues. So I'd assume it's natural for her to keep saying that she's afraid of losing him and acting clingy (not that it's excusable for everyone). He's the proverbial lifeline. And when you love someone, you're willing to do stupid things. Nao also mentioned that you can't chose who you fall in love with and that is very true.

That said, I'll take the fact that Sora can swim into account. The lake is truly symbolic. They seriously were able to live the life they wanted, which is a okay ending to the show. I can't say it was "great" or "spectacular."

The reason why I think there was no sense of closure is because we didn't have a chance to see an epilogue. For example, maybe they're having sex in a private room appreciating their freedom to love each other or a wedding where it's legal. We didn't have that luxury and it's probably why many people feel conflicted.

But of course, this is an adaptation. We shouldn't expect so much from a budgeted and time-constrained project such as an anime.

7/10 since the other routes pulled the whole show down. I acknowledge that it was necessary to point out all the routes in order to lead up to Sora's route, but it just didn't fit.

But all in all, 10/10 for Sora's arc.
Sep 17, 2015 1:19 PM
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flo7

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Ehr, this might be a stupid question. The twins went to live into their granpa's house to regain serenity and stuff but, who's gonna pay the bills?
Sep 17, 2015 5:49 PM
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flo7 said:
Ehr, this might be a stupid question. The twins went to live into their granpa's house to regain serenity and stuff but, who's gonna pay the bills?


It is safe to assume their parents left them some money, I remember they were a fairly wealthy family.
Oct 13, 2015 3:21 PM
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All in all, a good anime which deals seriously about a difficult topic.

But what I really can't get are the people who worship Sora.
It would be one thing that she only had her tsundere attitude along with a brother complex. Thats something I personally don't care about (I actually like tsundere characters). But her character traits are really bad and to me, she is the most unlikeable person in the anime (she may be attractive, but that isn't something rare in an anime).
In all other arcs, she doesn't want Haru to have luck with other women, especially with his old other love Nao. She can't really live alone and wants to force a relationship with Haru despite of all costs. In order to fullfill this, she can't stand other girls who even dare to get near her beloved brother. Obviously, she is also a control freak who wants to know every second where Haru is. That, among other traits, are signs that she definitely is mental ill and this was finally triggered when their parents died.

Also, I really can't understand the Nao hate. She is even in the Sora arc a really good person who wishes Sora and Haru luck for the future. Everything that would be unthinkable for the psychotic Sora.

I haven't played the VN and maybe there is some more depth or information about Sora. But nevertheless, even this wouldn't repair her unsympathic traits of her in my eyes. I seriously can't stand women like her who are obsessed with one person and want to control its full life, while everything goes according to her will. Disgusting.
WarghostOct 13, 2015 3:25 PM
Dec 20, 2015 10:34 PM
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It's still watchable until episode 9, just 3 episodes left so i don't want to drop it. Everything just went full bullshit and the only reason i still watch to the end is the extra parts. 3/10 overral, 1 for the main story and 2 for the extras
Jan 19, 2016 2:52 AM
#390
ibraheem234

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ok a pretty mature anime I say
Jan 19, 2016 12:52 PM
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So the two worst girls dominated the second half (Nao and Sora). This show was so hilariously bad I don't even know what to say anymore. And no, I'm not hating on incest, I'm hating on how it was handled. I need something good now.
Apr 13, 2016 3:06 PM
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Lunoire

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this was by far the most bizarre fucked up piece of fiction i've seen, sora was best arc though akira was fav girl

8/10 bc hated the nao arc, the akira and sora ones were the best in my opinion but would've gotten a 10/10 if it was sora all the way through
Apr 24, 2016 4:29 AM
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This anime was the worst I've ever seen.
I ship Haruka and Kazuha, and then when the creators decided to give him a new gf, I shipped Nao with him.
But then-nope, go and love your sister
I thought this anime would be like Kiss x sis or a good romance.
And it failed in both
Apr 26, 2016 11:15 AM
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How does ANYONE come away from this dreadful piece of garbage thinking it's any kind of quality storytelling?

Let's just get down to it. This is some average porn light novel animated for your (sick?) pleasure.

What starts out as some typical romantic series turns into nothing but playing out almost every single choice you could make in the visual novel. Right after episode four where the male lead seems to have chosen a healthy relationship, the series loads the save point so you can experience if he decided to get with the cute shrine girl instead. And it goes on from there....leading up to the "BEST END" where you get to fuck your little sister. Because THAT is the ultimate goal folks! -_-

The ending was going in a very interesting direction where the brother and sister had no option but to give up and live under the sea! Ya know, like that Simpson's episode! "They'll be no accusations! Just friendly crustaceans under the SEA!" That ending would have been glorious and for the better. But instead, they just move away (not in shame of course) overseas so they can practice their sinful ways until punished by our lord Jesus.

The only credit (and I use that word loosely) I will give this abomination of mankind is that most light novel anime remove all of those naughty sex scenes you pay good money on J-list or Mangagamer for. "Fuck Your Little Sister" the anime aka Yosuga no Sora actually gives the built-in audience what they want. Sure it's not much, but you just get to sit back, relax, and beat off to the softcore porn without having to click a mouse every few seconds.

So if you enjoy not having to play awful light novel garbage and have all the routes played out for you then this is the show for you! It teaches us all that instead of hooking up with the sophisticated heiress, the cute lovable shrine girl, or the childhood friend that god blessed with big titties, in the end there is only one real option....your loli tsundere twin-tail sister who will ride your manhood at the drop of a hat.

Look...I'm not saying you should feel bad for liking this stuff. Whatever floats your boat. But please don't act like this is some great tragic romance. It's light novel trash at it's finest. Plain and simple.
Jun 22, 2016 11:29 PM
#395
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OP Animation - 2.5/5

Not the best ending but Haru and Sora went overseas was nice idea so that they can fu** anytime they want. Haruka friends went bad ending route, Shulolo XD

It was quite a nice journey up till now. Only the good thing about this show is sex scene so thats it.

Episode: 3.5/5

Overall: 8/10 (Story: 5/10)
Aug 21, 2016 7:33 AM
#396
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Episodes 11 and 12 turned my natural lust into trauma for life.

I truly regret watching something that I am truly against. Just for the stats, it really cost me.
But really what it got me, was Haru... after he realized the thing he was doing to Sora, eventually gets again and forever incesting.

The first and last anime that scared my persona. I hate it with passion.

I gave 5 out of 10 regardless of the other girls. :) but the Sora arc.... ughh

I recommend to only see it until episode 9
KytuzuEXAug 21, 2016 7:37 AM
Sep 21, 2016 1:35 PM
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Joyce_Steele said:
this really needs to be investigated
Nov 18, 2016 6:29 AM
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finished, and just did a rewatch on the entire sora arc (10-12) . 10/10 for episode 10-12, sadly the unnecessary arcs made me rate this 7/10








Sora is now officially my waifu. there I said it
"there's a difference between reaching your dreams and finding happiness"-Nana

Dec 3, 2016 1:41 PM
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Ok so I honestly signed up just to post this theory I have, i won't go too in depth so it's understandable and I'm not rambling, but since I haven't seen any other theory's out there like it I had to...ok so to be completely blunt in my opinion I feel like this entire story is symbolic of a young mans suffering psyche and his attempts to cope with what he perceives as sinful behavior, of course I literally just finished watching the show on a binge run so I could be off but that's besides the point, looking at the story chronologically we can see the prot. falls for his sister and over time gives into his desires only to force his feelings into someone else as he feels loving sora is simply not an option, this in turn leads him to be in all honesty used like some sort of sex toy by the girl whom he had tried to push his feelings onto in order for her to relieve herself of grief, needless to say this would traumatize most anyone especially a child who repressed his feelings for his sister forcing them into someone else and when showing them kindness and attempting to look out for them he in turn is forced into a sexual affair only to have the girl run off without saying anything else...this in turn led him to see love as nothing more than an expression of emotions through sexual interaction and possibly by finding solutions to ones ordeals, which is precisely what we see on full display throughout the series, a young man aiding young women in their life struggles only to establish sexual Intimacy as a reward for his efforts solidifying his emotions...but in reality what I feel is happening is every other "arc" is simply his attempts forcing his feelings for his sister into others by coming up with grande fantasies to feed his twisted and broken view of love that was shaped by his repression and the eventual "assault" he experienced as a result of his efforts...chronologically I think every story is actually his fleeting thoughts as he's drowning in the lake, let me explain...each story ends with fin. cut to black either right after, during, or while reminiscing over having intercourse with his partner for that "arc" before moving onto the next, this is him visualizing alternate realities and paths he wished he had explored and in a sense reliving his life while continuing to push away his feelings for sora till the very end, each arc is actually just him hallucinating the other realities he had considered as "correct" or "right" and displaying his minds attempts to force out his true feelings for sora in exchange for another more "appropriate" outcome, by showing him solving these young women's issues and divulging in his reward or ultimately what he had come to define as love up to that point, starting off with a caregiver representing him seeing his sister as a child to look after, and sympathizing with her struggles ultimately ending in a reflection on their night together before cutting to black as he accepts that's not the reality he wants or even desires, then it moves onto a childhood friend and memories begin to resurface showing the side of him that sees sora as a friend over anything else, as a sister not to take care of but to play with per se and ultimately this "arc" ends with him solving her issues of not being accepted by her family, in this case their own family not accepting their love and having to repress and shun his feelings seeing sora as nothing more than a friend or playmate, this time the story ends in a lighter tone as he lays down expressing his love for her before once more realizing this isn't the fate he truly wants and cutting to black, after this things get very interesting as the final "arc" shows nao and reveals the truth as all of his repressed memories come back and he understands why he behaves the way he does, showing us in part more of the real story and beginning to accept the truth, it shows him finnaly confronting his issues, and seeing why he can't love anyone else, this time instead of engaging with a personification of a friend, or someone to care for, he begins to descend into his troubled psyche accepting his pay isn't all roses and sunshine realizing that he can't just run to someone else and expect everything to be alright as even other women are human and will ultimately use and hurt him, in this arc we focus on sora most of all, as in all the others he realized his relationships would hurt her but he finnaly understands and accepts not only would she be upset or jealous it would traumatize her and possibly tear her away and him from her as well, in this arc he relates to nao not as by shared interest, or as a friend but ultimately as a way to redeem himself and fix the past, as a way to heal old wounds, and ultimately he moves on from random girls accepting the one he loves is right in front of him and has always been there for him, in this "arc" as an old friend but truly as sora...once more all of this culminates in him trying to imagine sora being happy and accepting it, but even so at least in my opinion it all seems staged as if even he can't accept this is a likely outcome, this "arc" ends in him trying one final time in fixing his relationship with nao that he is still troubled over and instead of reminiscing over sex, or being in a loving situation right after he is headfirst In the middle of the act, looking down from above seeing the entire town, (I know this is probably way too deep but in my opinion the festival represents society and his final attempt to appease it by engaging with nao in his best effort as pushing away his feelings for sora as he did when he was younger, ultimately a final display to try and prove to himself he doesn't need sora, he has in this "arc" been accepted by everyone, been saved and redeemed by nao both physically in the form of cpr and figuratively by once more being accepted by the town and society in whole, his friends not only accept but push him into this cafe, and hell even soras happy, everything will be ok he's fixed his problems and ultimately this is the best possible outcome right?) yet in end the story ends there, he doesn't get to move on or start a new life, in fact it cuts off in the middle as he realizes this simply isn't an option no matter how hard he tries and for the last time, cut to black screen and tada fin....this final "arc" reveals the truth to him, we know this because it's the only arc where his pat realizations from the other all manifest and develope in an explanation as he accepts why he did the things he did and that this is truly who he is, no bullshit in the end this is finnaly what he wants and the truth of he is both the good and bad, in this ending we see how things actually went, despite his efforts he couldn't make things work with nao just like last time and when he tried to engage in sexual activity with her, what he had deluded himself into believing defined loving someone he was rejected by the same girl who had made him believe such a concept in the first place, in this reality we finnaly see the depth of the mosquitos and why in every other reality they play a role, as they are ultimately what hurts his sister, the one thing he truly cares about, and blaming himself for her fate (if only he had been with someone else, if only he had tried harder everything would be ok it would all be alright, sora would be safe, and he would wind up with the girl he forced himself to love) in fact the only two "arcs" where we see someone's life in danger are the last two symbolizing in my opinion either his acceptance of death, or realizing that life Isn't the fairy tail he wanted it to be and having to accept he was the only person who could protect sora, and in turn the world was a cruel place that would tear away what we loved, perhaps *gasp* maybe society wasn't right, maybe reality was where he needed to live and stop caring about what others thought or his ideal world, I digress as I said I wouldn't rattle on too much, but in this reality we also see some inconsistencies perhaps symbolic of the fact that not everything makes sense in the world and we just have to accept what were given, this ending is also the most mature as we see he's not by any means a perfect person in fact unlike the other arcs we hear him say he's loved sora for a long time whereas with the others he had to force himself to love them by coming up with grande fantasies about solving all of their issues or in naos case redeeming her past, but with sora, he just had to be there for her and take care of her like he always did, in this arc we see him the happiest and truly accepting his fate, sex isn't some end goal to fantasize over and define the relationship by, but instead a way to express love, and bring people closer together...in this arc we see humanities darker sides, jealousy, respite, guilt, pain, betrayal and more of course, it's the only arc where we see other characters sad at the end, he's unable to make everyone happy but he's ok with that, in this arc he hurts people and everything doesn't end up ok like a fairy tale, in this arc he almost drowns as well, however instead of focusing on how his death would hurt sora and a fantasy about being saved by nao only to laugh it off with some comic relief he almost dies and is too weak to even stand up with sora crying over him, instead of laughing it off he asks if he's alive...in this arc we see him actually doing research on his own time and are shown a world outside of the relationship as he realizes he can't just sit by and let the world decide what happens next he actually has to stand up for what he wants, in this world we see him doubt his feelings unlike any of the others he falters and he realizes he can't just leave sora behind, he can't pretend he doesn't love her, in fact she means everything to him and more...so In the end we see the true ending, he realizes he's not perfect by any means and accepts who he is, what he truly wants, and ultimately has to fight for his life and desires, because in the end sora ran away (a truth we can see both in nao and soras "arcs" as he finnaly begins to accept reality and doesn't live in a dream anymore living his own life instead of imagining what is should be) and he has to find her, others may try and help him but he accepts that in the end it isn't about other people as it is and always has been an issue of him and sora from the very beginning, he chases sora to the lake after we see what really happened and his descent into a darker place where I believe he began to come up with these what if scenarios trying to deny the world around him and pushing away the one moment in his life where was truly happy and able to be himself with sora...he chases after her to the lake and they both drown, he is reborn both physically being saved by Nora and spiritually by accepting who he is, and not running away from the truth anymore, after all this time no matter how hard he tried to lie to himself he has to accept he loves sora and he doesn't care what others think...this time the story ends with fin. But instead of cutting to a black scene and starting anew he accepts this reality and there is an open sky, he's free, and himself....this is of course likely all wrong I just finished the series but I can't help but think of these kind of things, as for some other issues no they didn't die, the bunny of course in my opinion is just there to represent that not everything makes sense, or it symbolizes then moving on and instead of having to hold onto her mother, or essentially family, she will instead look to the man she loves for support, who this time won't leave her but instead be by her side...all of you sora haters out there are quite irritating, sora is human, does that mean she doesn't deserve to be judged hell no, but we see a young woman clinging to one person who she loves but won't have her for reasons she can't accept, force himself onto someone else only to be used as some sort of sexual object as she runs away, then this person becomes detached and removed seeing love not for himself but simply as an objective he is duty bound to reach, their parents die and she has to move to some small town where she doesn't feel comfortable especially living next door to the girl who literally forced herself onto the man sora loves, has to watch him run off with other girls imagining all the outcomes and listen to him talk about them left and right...she is stuck watching the person she loves hurting inside forcing himself away from her and onto others terrified hell hurt himself or leave her, has to watch him get together with the girl she hates for using him in her mind and tearing him away from her...sora has every damn right to be furious and pissed with nao and the world, as far as my theory goes her jealous acts in the first two and third "arcs" are actually just him realizing he chose the one girl who hurt sora the most and that no matter how hard he tried to deny it he knew sora loved him at this point and couldn't accept that she would be ok with it (because he was shocked to find out sora loved him and was incredibly bothered by the fact (and aroused of course) which leads me to believe that since in every arc we see sora watching and being alone jealous of his affairs it must be after he found that out most likely as he was drowning duh), sora is a young girl and very protective of her brother, even he accepts in naos "arc" that the simple idea of him dying (drowning wink wink, that certainly doesn't have any foreshadowing or depth to it wink wink) would traumatize her and lead her to depend on him more and more...we see him realize that sora had to find hope in others (2nd "arc" girl after he had already accepted she wasn't a valid partner for him we only then get to see that her and sora were friends, if that isn't proof of the idea that he's slowly beginning to make realizations of the world around him as the "arcs" progress then I dunno what is ) who admittedly despite their best efforts will ultimately fail her (Popsicle)...people use the fact that sora didn't care what the others thought to call her selfish and to those I simply applaud very slowly and compliment how Ignorant that idea is, if you are in love with a woman or man I suppose and find out that society won't accept you for some pathetic reason such as their 7 years older than you or perhaps too tall, or hell even something as stupid as you have the same hair color (just illustrating how stupid incest taboo is especially in the eyes of this girl and if you disagree with me and think you can't love someone because of something as stupid as being born by the same mother than I doubt you've ever loved someone before and don't realize how ignorant that sounds, or simply lack any self awareness, empathy or sympathy) are you selfish just for wanting to be together with them and trying all the same? She is completely entitled in my mind to go above and beyond as she did, she has every right to be furious that people would tell her who she can and cannot love or even worse say that despite the fact they both love one another can't be together for taboo reasons, on top of that she has also had to see the man she loved broken and torn apart forcing himself into a psychologist corner all because of his feelings by such pathetic ideals and has had to sit back and watch as he ran off with other people being terrified that he would leave her for someone else and she would lose him...I digress I've said way too much and this is very long but that's the basics of my opinions and sentiments on this show, I'd give it a solid 10/10 based on my analysis of the show and its content
Dec 3, 2016 2:37 PM
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Also just a side note the main reason why I truly came to accept this theory as being either implied or outright instituted and not just me overthinking things was the depth of the sora "arc" compared to the others, we see in every other sex scene from all the other arcs it seems to be some sort of exaggeration to be formal, in every sex scene other than soras he takes control and is dominant or it happens in the spur of the moment as if rehearsed and reacted, almost as if it's his fantasies where things work out without a hitch, yet in soras first scene especially we get to see that it's sort of clumsy and awkward while also being a lot more intimate and realistic, especially when he asks how it should work, and both of them saying one another's names, also the way they express their "I love yous" is unique to the two of them as though they truly mean it and regardless to say from personal experience it came out more realistic for me as it wasn't a staged "I love you" and conceding to the fact once more as though rehearsed or inacted instead it came across as though they were simply trying to express their feelings through words yet unable to truly show its depth other than through actions something that when In a relationship becomes clear quite quickly...sex is complained about a lot in this forum and honestly I can see why at first glance I felt the same way but after the first arc when I began to develope my little hypothesis I realized sex in this show is very symbolic just like in real life as expression of love and to me it seemed like it was a show of the repressed feelings felt being displayed onto others from Harus desires for sora, and although it took me a few episodes in to get completely used to it after I did it made much more sense and actually really helped flesh out the series and aided a lot in my analysis on a scale I don't wanna even touch on because it would literally take me a few hours to just go over a thorough analysis of the first episode over text, plus it would demonstrate just how nerdy if not completely over analytical I am when it comes to symbolism ranging from metaphors to illusions from cultural subscripts or perhaps just show off how much of my life has been devoted to psycho analysis and profiling xD...all comments aside I really wanna hear other people's take on my review I think I'm gonna rematch the series later today and make sure I didn't miss anything or just wasn't aware of certain scenes depth, so feel free to tell me if anyone noticed anything pertaining to my ideas obviously both pro and against if I'm going to be completely unbiased, or even simple questions are warmly appreciated since I know I did a shitty job of explaining my thought process and I'm quite sure my previous message was ill formed and looked like something a child would write on its simplicity and generalization
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