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Oct 15, 2019 10:58 PM
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mangalicker94 said:
AmeliaNeston2003 said:



Well Natsu vs Zeref's part 2 was pretty much the tenrou tree powers that beat him
not defeat :P as Natsu left and he leaved that to Mavis to do the rest

That glow mark is the same glow mark he got in Hades fight when their magic was returning to FT members
Hiro wanted the viewers to figure it out instead of him giving explaination, that time it wasn't a power boost just help from the Tenrou tree itself

If that tree was destroyed there would had been 0% chance of victory for Natsu
in the Zeref's fight part 2 , and Hades

Well not all of Erza's fight was friendship wins
Erza & Bisca vs Ajeel was reasonable
and Neinhart was fine

But the other fights in pretimeskip Yep there was Power of Friendship in her fights except the very early arcs of Fairy Tail




Hard to remember that far back when I watch this weekly, but you may have a good point there. I also agree that this anime had quality in the first arcs. Amazing how an mangaka can ruin his story that bad. Usually it's the animation studio (ehm...ehm...Tokyo Ghoul:Re).



Yep this arc got rushed because of Eden's Zero T-T Hiro wanted to create a new manga so badly he rushed Alvarez Empire and destroyed E.N.D storyline

At least the sequel manga is given care he said to people he wants to show a new Appeal and side of FT , So far it's much better compared to this arc
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npcvillager said:
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You're welcome, It's A-1 Studios fault for doing that Still images are no good
They better not pick up the sequel manga Any other studio will do just fine


Agreed, I don't even know where should I start to criticize. But for years I've been watching FT so I'm putting up with it.



They are not the final arts though :P some studios creates two different versions of it most of the times they use a bad art on purpose For TV , saving the final arts for the BD,Dvd releases

Like this thread

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1353068
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AmeliaNeston2003 said:
npcvillager said:


Agreed, I don't even know where should I start to criticize. But for years I've been watching FT so I'm putting up with it.



They are not the final arts though :P some studios creates two different versions of it most of the times they use a bad art on purpose For TV , saving the final arts for the BD,Dvd releases

Like this thread

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1353068


Well the difference is obvious. I had no idea studios doing something like this. Thanks again, I've been enlightened. But not just the art, I didn't like the story too in this final series. But I admit that I cried on some parts xd
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npcvillager said:
AmeliaNeston2003 said:



They are not the final arts though :P some studios creates two different versions of it most of the times they use a bad art on purpose For TV , saving the final arts for the BD,Dvd releases

Like this thread

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1353068


Well the difference is obvious. I had no idea studios doing something like this. Thanks again, I've been enlightened. But not just the art, I didn't like the story too in this final series. But I admit that I cried on some parts xd


I agree the weak parts are those , Irene's final fight, Zeref's round 2 , and Acnologia's final fights , Maybe August too

I still think Hiro should had made Igneel's power a two times use
that way would had been better
and Acnologia should had been a longer fight like in Natsu vs Jellal in Tower of Heaven

But all of it had to be ruined because of Edens Zero.. at least I'm only reading the sequel manga unlike the other people who read EZ even when they know that new manga was the destruction to FT's final arc
Hiro wanted to make a new manga that badly he didn't even give FT a ending it deserves Zeref and Acno deserved a better fights

The weird thing is Natsu's flames becomes red when Natsu gets his wound healed similar to Igneel's flames when he delievered the final attack to Fairy Heart Zeref

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Lucy's plan is surprisingly solid.

Some nice looking action even if it feels like they are going nowhere fighting Acnologia.

I'm hoping to see more Acnologia backstory next episode.
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mangalicker94 said:
AmeliaNeston2003 said:



Natsu vs Jacob
Natsu vs Bakel
Natsu vs Zeref part 1
Natsu vs Zeref part 2 was the tenrou tree powers ( Not PoF) Watch Hades fight again ( Plus as a result Natsu got his arm burnt as a consequence for using too much Fire)
Natsu vs Neinhart
Erza & Bisca vs Ajeel
Erza & Jellal vs Neinhart

Lucy vs Brandish
Wendy & Shelia vs Dimaria

Mirajane vs Irene's Swords
Mirajane vs Jacob

Jelal vs Human Acnologia
Jellal vs Dragon Acnologia
Sting vs Larcade
Gajeel vs Bloodman

Gildarts vs August

Those are NOT Power of Friendship wins so what you said is not true at all
You need to rewatch the fights , instead of ( Skipping ) around

This episode was very good and remember Hiro said FT is not supposedly to be taken seriously


I have watched all the fights you mentioned above, and it's I found it strange that you can claim Erza's fights in this arc isn't relied on nakama power. As far as I can see she always gets her power boost through nakama power. Sorry to say, but she is the one who maybe had the worst character developement. I think since the Grad Magic tournament there is no new equipment armor used. Only the old ones and the only reason she won each time is through trust and the love of friendship. If you don't see that as nakama power, then I don't know.

I dunno how you can defend Natsu vs. Zeref's fight. He said himself he had limitless magic power, then how the hell did Natsu win. There weren't any saying that he got any power boost from Igneel, so I can't understand how he can be stronger. That's the problem with this series. In most of the fights we don't get a proper explanation for some of the character's power boost. The only explanation is their will to survive, their bond and mostly the power of their friendship.

Hai how are you! You might not read this but I'll say it anyway.
I know I'm late to this conversation
Remember Lucy was still writing the Book of E.N.D
Natsu mostly likely got a power boost directly from the book
We can still see in ep 46 Lucy had her pen on the Book while Natsu & Zeref Fists were at each other in their big clash at the same time

The Nakama was just the speech to the end at FDK Destruction Fist in the fight & that speech did nothing ,

But the Power boost did

With that power boost from the other end Natsu got extra fired up from his end aswell
burnt his arm in return
Zeref's fight was a legit win no matter how much people think this was stupid

Nakama played a small role to the end of Destruction Fist attack , That's it.

His Fire of Emotion was also introduced since the first season episode 8

This fight wasn't ruined but some of Hiro's decision in this arc in other fights were not that good because he rushed it.

As we remember FT was always about bond & friendship since the begining of the series But not all fights was friendship wins. Zeref's wasn't either.

Erza has won her past battles without any friendship Phantom Lord , Tower of Heaven , Battle of FT I can't remember the other arcs so I can't say for sure
But these I remembered them correct.

There was a lot of fights they didn't win by Friendship

Natsu vs Future Rogue Atlas Flames was the one ended Rogue

Erza vs Minerva Second origin + Nakagami Armor ended Minerva

Natsu & Gray Team effort ended Mard Geer

Lucy's Urano Metria ended Jackal

Natsu vs Gajeel Natsu's Crimson Lotus: Fire Dragon's Fist ended Gajeel

Gajeel & Natsu team effort ended Laxus

I'll stop :P it else it's gonna be a huge list but yes in some fights

like Erza vs Azuma was a friendship win
Erza vs Meteor was a friendship win aswell


Except that slash Irene got by Enchanted Sword by Erza
We don't know how much Enchant power Wendy have
+ Also because all had 1 Years of Training

Irene said Wendy can cast High Enhanter aswell.
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Acnologia is a pretty bad doctor especially for dragons but have to give him props for his insane insticts there
Well the ship part of the plan really sunk fast...

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rip the boats. Acnologia's instincts are too good xD
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...That was Acnologia's back story...? That's it? I hope more will be explained next ep 'cause that was just weak af!
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2/5 disappointing, boring, lame
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It's always hilarious how they make these grand plans and fail majestically, every single time. Also was that it? "THE BACKSTORY". Really nothing to take note of, we didn't even get how this super normal person became the king of dragons lol.
Oct 22, 2022 7:41 PM

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How to defeat the world's most powerful dragon using the power of friendship.

Acnologia is a cool antagonist in my opinion. I genuinely like his design.

I wanna know more about Acnologia tho.
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It's too bad Acnologia isn't even fighting the Dragon Slayers. Instead, he's just countering all their attacks with nonfatal attacks.
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