Toriyama gives us a scientific explanation as to how characters go Super Sayian.

SquirrelStand said:
Saiyan S-cells only adds more lore to Saiyan's backstory.It doesnt matter if other saiyan(from universe 7) couldn't went super saiyan because they were all dead.So this cell thing can only be applied to universe 6's surviving saiyans,that is if they still can be ressurected.6 saiyans to perform super saiyan god,so if there is universe 6 arc in the future,dbs must add 3 more saiyan with S-cell to create more super saiyan god without "tingly feeling" or a few minutes demonstration for Caulifla,Kale or Cabba to reach that level.This way the fans won't complain anymore about sudden power up.

ichii_1 said:
Garbage of the highest caliber, he should be ashamed but I guess that's what alzheimer does to you.

iorn said:


Too bad Calufia doesn't really fit the definition of righteous...Or kale or Vageta or Goku in most cases...Really the only saiyans that can be considered righteous are Gohan and Cabba.


Also if Yamoshi was supposedly soo powerful how did get the shit stomped out of him by a bunch of monkey's that can't even take freeza in a straight fight when the entirety OF their race banded together....?

Why didn't Yamoshi help Bardock when he was trying to save the Sayien race? Was he still pissed about the whole Sayien's killed him thing?


Also if he was such a legend why didn't king ki mention him when goku went super Sayien god? Why didn't Supreme Ki mention it?

Dragonage2ftw said:
What a pointless, stupid post.

Comander-07 said:
Im sorry, I just cant take "scientific explanations" regarding a basically 30 year old concept very seriously. Because you know he made it up just now.

Dragonage2ftw said:

1. Caulifla is pretty righteous, and she probably has a high S-Cell count from her parents, as her brother is a famous Saladian hero. Besides. It's having a GENTLE, KIND HEART. Not being righteous.

2. The implication is that Yamoshi's combat against the Great Apes is what blew up planet Salada, meaning that he perished alongside the planet.

3. He was mad at Sayians still using the Great Ape form.

4. You're assuming that the Kai's know everything.

iorn said:


1: Caulifla is an overly aggressive brat with a superiority complex that clearly views anyone weaker than her as a lesser...Gentle and kind aren't adjectives that I would use to describe Caulifla and I'm pretty sure ghosts can't hop from universe to universe.


2: Why didn't he just one shot all of them ._.? Do you have any idea how astronomical the power difference between a grate ape and a super sayien is? He could have just used a homing attack similar to the human extinction attack that Super buu used....Not like Super buu was this expert level martial artist he was just crazy strong and dangerously stupid.

3: Reinforces my previous point.^ Also being mad enough to start slaughtering people doesn't sound very righteous me.

4: Yah not like they're gods of creation or anything. Watching over the universe? Pffft that's just a myth.

Dragonage2ftw said:


1. Caulifla is shown to care about her friends, and she isn't that angry. She also doesn't have a superiority complex.

They take the form of Yamoshi when they go SSG, lad.

2. Because there's a shit ton of apes, and only one SSG.

It was literally him vs the world.

Also, you're assuming that everyone knows how to use homing Ki techniques.

3. What does this reinforce? He was attacking the Sayians to try and ensure that they didn't give in to their animal nature.

4. The arc that Super is on right now is literally about how the Kai's suck at their jobs.

iorn said:



1. Bardock cared about his friends why didn't he get the transformation?


2: Um let me do a bit of power scaling for you. Vegeta was easily one of the most powerful members of his race when he fought goku. During the namik saga goku becomes far more powerful than a great ape is in his base form. Then he unlocks the ssj transformation which allowed him to fight against someone who was able to wipe out vegeta's race with absolutely no effort at all. Fast forward a couple arcs and ssj goku and friends get the shit beat out of them by the androids only for a foe far more powerful then the them to show up. Goku trains and now he's powerful enough to fight against said foe.

^ At the level of power the super sayien god transformation is at great apes might as well just be considered normal human beings or more accurately ants. There is absolutely nothing they would have been able to do to Yamoshi short of destroying the planet but Yamoshi could have easily knocked them all out by then.


3: Slaughters a race because they can't control themselves rather than leaving the planet and finding someone to help

4: I highly doubt that every single Ki didn't know about Yamoshi existing. Chances are most of them would have noticed someone that ludicrously powerful coming into the other world

Dragonage2ftw said:


1. Bardock wasn't a kind person. He literally killed planets for a living.

Caulifla just runs a vague gang that seems to just be more of a nuisance than evil.

2-4

Wait until Movie 20 for these questions to be answered.

iorn said:



So did vegeta

I highly doubt Caulifla's gang was just a nuisance...

iorn said:


1: Caulifla is an overly aggressive brat with a superiority complex that clearly views anyone weaker than her as a lesser...Gentle and kind aren't adjectives that I would use to describe Caulifla and I'm pretty sure ghosts can't hop from universe to universe.


2: Why didn't he just one shot all of them ._.? Do you have any idea how astronomical the power difference between a grate ape and a super sayien is? He could have just used a homing attack similar to the human extinction attack that Super buu used....Not like Super buu was this expert level martial artist he was just crazy strong and dangerously stupid.

3: Reinforces my previous point.^ Also being mad enough to start slaughtering people doesn't sound very righteous me.

4: Yah not like they're gods of creation or anything. Watching over the universe? Pffft that's just a myth.