The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya Movie Discussion

wheresthehandle said:
Absolutely fantastic. Then again, I've read the novel. Completely loved it :D

Can I just hug Nagato please?

Splitter said:
Wow... how unbelievably... average.

I mean, seriously, I can only think of two, maybe three scenes in the whole 2 hours and 40 minutes of runtime that were interesting and exciting. I feel absolutely drained now, past sleepy and bordering on nauseous. The accolades already being poured on it are, from my perspective, entirely unwarranted. If anything, this movie is an exercise in patience.

I would hope the book, for all the praise this particular arc has received in that medium, is better-paced than this dragged out mess. Solid story, yes. Decent characteization, yes. A few surprises, yes. It's not bad, but holy god, this was a trying movie to watch. 7/10.

MaxCrazy7 said:

Oh I wonder what Koizumi told Kyon while Haruhi went to get a taxi? Half of the phrase was buried under the noise of the train passing by.

Kurogashi said:
I wish that the time spent in the distorted world was a bit longer. It also would have been nice to enjoy more of the shy, timid, Yuki.

CraigTheOtaku said:
I thought it was brilliant. Having managed to keep myself away from spoilers in the months preceding seeing this certainly paid off... every twist and turn was unexpected and ultimately made the story amazing. It's hard to describe exactly what I liked so much about it, but the whole thing overall was an experience, the story sucked me in, played with my emotions... then the ending, whilst not perfect, certainly rounded things off well enough.

MaxCrazy7 said:
Well even though the picture was pretty bad but the movie was awesome. Human Nagato is uber cute, long hair Haruri is not bad at all.

Some questions I had have been answered, but still in the end I wonder how come there were two Kyon, two Asahina and maybe two Nagato as well.

Oh I wonder what Koizumi told Kyon while Haruhi went to get a taxi? Half of the phrase was buried under the noise of the train passing by.

datsunvic said:

Thank You - I've read the other comments with absolute disbelief. Did they, or we watch an alternate dimension movie? Reading the coments abouve leads me to think that they watched the anime version of "The Ten Comandments".

I also rated it a 7. I enjoyied the movie, it was good. The earth did not move under my feet, the sky did not open to reveal heaven, it was just good.

Kaioshin_Sama said:


It's just a Kyoani work. You ignore what most people post since it's typically rabid fanboyism induced and you're rarely going to hear anything beyond 10/10 and "Best movie ever". Just go for the posts by people that clearly thought about the movie afterward and aren't diehard fanboys. They're typically a lot more informative and discussion worthy anyway.

Splitter said:


It's not that. Not this time at least. The problem was I was really, really looking forward to this movie. I was deadset on thinking this would be one of the best anime movies I've ever seen, up there with TokiKake and EoE. Yuki's one of my all-time favorite characters and I was a huge Haruhifag when the first season came out. I really thought this would be KyoAni's redemption and I was sorely, sorely disappointed.

Cashdaxxx said:


I believe this is one great movie...those twist and turns though makes confusion but rewatching it would solve the problem...

The movie itself is like an OVA, it still connected to the main plot and even added more elements...Such Haruhi-fans will be blown away if they saw this movie..

Mikiyo said:
I hardly see how this movie dissapoints anyone, and after reading all that crap of "... And I was a huge haruhifag when the first season came out." Hell, it is the slow-perfect-pace that made this movie such a sucsessful one, otherwise rushing all out the plot that covers the whole "Vanishment" book would've been a waste. It was actually the slow pace that allowed me to fully appreciate and absorb everything to it's full potential, Kyon's expressions, voice acting, arguments was just priceless. Just perfect.

The whole point of the movie was about Kyon making a choice between staying in one of the two worlds. Nothing else, and anyone who actually did read the book, knows that this was one of the bests adaptations of a novel. A masterpiece? Indeed, best movie ever? Absolutely no; each head is a world.

Splitter said:

No shit Kyon's going to choose the SOS Brigade world. How is the story going to continue otherwise? Really, you either give this film too much credit, or you love everything you see with pretty pictures.

Mikiyo said:
You obviously didn't read the novel, so you had no idea if the plot could have ended it right there. So stop talking shit.

Meddigo said:

Everybody knows that this movie was book 4 and there's already like 10 novels or something.

Meddigo said:
The worlds were far too polarized for me to think the choice was actually significant. Kyon spends at least 30 minutes moping and distressing cause Haruhi/Koizumi aren't there and Yuki/Mikuru don't really know him (as well as other things, like the random influenza/cold that was going around and never was of any importance nor was explained).

Had the worlds actually been similar, had he spent a lot longer with "long hair" Haruhi and that world's newly created SOS brigade so he could actually point out the differences, then I might have respected that part of the movie a bit more.

Splitter said:
Wow... how unbelievably... average.

I mean, seriously, I can only think of two, maybe three scenes in the whole 2 hours and 40 minutes of runtime that were interesting and exciting. I feel absolutely drained now, past sleepy and bordering on nauseous. The accolades already being poured on it are, from my perspective, entirely unwarranted. If anything, this movie is an exercise in patience.

I would hope the book, for all the praise this particular arc has received in that medium, is better-paced than this dragged out mess. Solid story, yes. Decent characteization, yes. A few surprises, yes. It's not bad, but holy god, this was a trying movie to watch. 7/10.

Kaioshin_Sama said:

Would the interesting scenes you are talking about happen to be the one where everyone gets gathered in the clubroom, the scene in the park and the finale by any chance.

garfield15 said:


So why did I still give it a 9? Well for a few reasons. I really liked the animation. Even through the camrip, I could see that this was looking very nice. I also liked that we were focusing on Yuki again. She isn't my favorite character but I can't say I dislike her and seeing that she has subtly grown less and less emotionless was nice as well. But the biggest reason I gave it a high score was that nearly everything from the past epiosdes (er, novels) was utilized in a way that gave birth to this story. Was there a lot of talking, Oh yes. But did it have a point? It did. This is why we sat through so many of those episodes during broadcast airings. This is what the subtle canon events were for. This is why the fans find the author to be a storytelling genius. I appreciate any work that utilizes it's continuity well and this was a prime example. (I never thought there would be more that John Smith thing)

Touka said:
Great movie, but not being a diehard Haruhi fan I was a little unclear on certain parts. How was Yuki able to just borrow Haruhi's power? Isn't her power supposed to be so mysterious and unexplainable that not even the Data Integration Thought Entity know much about it.

Kraker2k said:
I am going to stick with the little words besides the numbering system and give this a an 8/10 or "Very Good" - I enjoyed the film, but there were one or two thing that brought down the level of enjoyment.

For one, the film felt too long. It almost clocks in at around 3 hours and much of the major plot doesn't even begin until an hour into the film, they really could have cut some of the fluff off the edges. I know anime often takes short cuts when adapting Light Novels, in this instance I believe they stuck far too close to the source material.

As for the main plot itself, I enjoyed the time travelling back and forth, but it wasn't all that mind blowing. It felt like watching an extended episode of the first series, which in itself is not bad as that's what we usually want with thing like this, but I do not feel this was a life changing best film of the decade masterpiece.

Touka said:
Great movie, but not being a diehard Haruhi fan I was a little unclear on certain parts. How was Yuki able to just borrow Haruhi's power? Isn't her power supposed to be so mysterious and unexplainable that not even the Data Integration Thought Entity know much about it.

Cashdaxxx said:
Everything was explained in that movie

Meddigo said:


Why was there a large case of influenza/cold going around in the changed world that wasn't in Kyon's original world? That was never explained, and actually turned out to be rather extraneous and pretty stupid.

Cashdaxxx said:
That argument also cranked my head...I even think that Yuki was the real self-powered character in the series... Well this is what I think...

The present Yuki (the one in the original world) complains that she is experiencing bugs and errors. I think she stole Haruhi's "powers" to generate blah blah blah something like that and returned back to the time when she inevitably altered the world, and thought that reverting the world would be best for Kyon (which was probably the one causing this unknown bug to Yuki which was he explained to be "emotion"). But didn't expect that Kyon will prefer the original (I think) since Asahina-san (adult version) was also shocked when Kyon was stabbed by Ryoko. (she yelled out "I should've known", right?)...I can't explain much, because I'm still confused even though I've watched the movie 3 times....

Touka said:


Perhaps the bugs and errors did have something to do with it, but I still don't understand how Yuki was just able to take Haruhi's power though. I'm sure at some point in the first series it was said that the Data Overmind could not intervene with Haruhi's power as they do not know what it holds (or something like that) and that is why Yuki is there to simply observe. Yet somehow Yuki is able to take Haruhi's power completely and alter the entire world. I just can't work out how she is able to do this, yet it is a major part of the plot so there has to be an answer or something I'm missing. Maybe another viewing of the movie is necessary. :P

game8910 said:


The cold was used as a device to let Kyon know that something was not the same from the world he came from the day before, that was the sole reason for it.
Just because there was a cold it doesnt mean that there must be some conspiracy or some higher meaning to it, it was only a way to tell the viewer and Kyon that things were not the way they used to be.

Meddigo said:

So his friend not having a girlfriend and Asakura showing up in Haruhi's spot just weren't enough clues?

Just how mentally handicapped are the readers of the Haruhi light novels?

game8910 said:


Just how bad are you at understanding things? This has nothing to do with the readers not understanding that the world changed...everyone knew things were not going to be ok as soon as Kyon woke up, he himself says something along the lines of "The next day, I was thrown into the abyss of fear", of course things are not going to be ok, the cold, the missing date, are just how author was showing how things were starting to be different. This is not about the reader's incapacity to see the world changing, the original question was you asking why they didnt explain why there was a cold, and there is no need for an explanation...the cold is just a cover story that Nagato created when she rewrote the world along with all memories from a year before, there is nothing more to it.

Touka said:
Perhaps the bugs and errors did have something to do with it, but I still don't understand how Yuki was just able to take Haruhi's power though. I'm sure at some point in the first series it was said that the Data Overmind could not intervene with Haruhi's power as they do not know what it holds (or something like that) and that is why Yuki is there to simply observe. Yet somehow Yuki is able to take Haruhi's power completely and alter the entire world. I just can't work out how she is able to do this, yet it is a major part of the plot so there has to be an answer or something I'm missing. Maybe another viewing of the movie is necessary. :P

infinite_zero said:
Think of the original world, and the alternative world as parallel strips. By rewriting the world, Nagato effectively skewed the flow towards the other parallel line. By stopping her from rewriting, time merely remained flowing on its original parallel line, without crossing over into another line. Or something. Time is a tricky thing to understand.

game8910 said:


Just how bad are you at understanding things? This has nothing to do with the readers not understanding that the world changed...everyone knew things were not going to be ok as soon as Kyon woke up, he himself says something along the lines of "The next day, I was thrown into the abyss of fear", of course things are not going to be ok, the cold, the missing date, are just how author was showing how things were starting to be different. This is not about the reader's incapacity to see the world changing, the original question was you asking why they didnt explain why there was a cold, and there is no need for an explanation...the cold is just a cover story that Nagato created when she rewrote the world along with all memories from a year before, there is nothing more to it.

infinite_zero said:
Think of the original world, and the alternative world as parallel strips. By rewriting the world, Nagato effectively skewed the flow towards the other parallel line. By stopping her from rewriting, time merely remained flowing on its original parallel line, without crossing over into another line. Or something. Time is a tricky thing to understand.