Which do you prefer?
Only subs - original audio is best.
45.9%
1,121
Mostly subbed, some dubbed.
29.7%
725
Only dubbed - I like it in my native language.
2.3%
57
Mostly dubbed, some subbed.
8.0%
195
Both subbed and dubbed equally.
11.5%
280
Raw.
2.6%
64
2,442 votes
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| I can't believe I'm seeing people defend the Clannad dub... Personal opinion is fine and all, but it's one of the laziest ones I've seen, and doesn't hold a candle to Funimation dubs. Seems more like they were cashing in on the series rather than actually trying. |
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| Subs 90% of the time. There are a few exceptions like FMA. IMO most American VAs don't have much emotion in their act. An example of that would be the terrible voice act of the female lead character in Hellsing. No emotions whatsoever. |
| *facepalm* this again. Look I say it once and twice, and I'll say it again. The dub vs sub war is just stupid and the "anime should be watch in Japanese because it's the original audio" logic does not hold up really well (it might have work long time ago). Let me ask you this: How should Batman: Gotham Knight and Halo Legends should be watch, English or Japanese? Because these 2 are considered anime, they should be watch in Japanese, right? But wait a minute, Batman and Master Chief will sound weird in Japanese because we're used to hearing them in English not Japanese (unless you watch Batman in Japanese all your life and you play all the Halo game in Japanese). But you't can watch those 2 anime in English because anime should never be watch in English? See the problem? The same thing applies to the upcoming Iron Man and Wolverine anime. Let's not forget the upcoming Supernatural anime? How should we watch those? oh don't give me the whole "It's a co-production so we can watch it in other language beside Japanese" crap. The Devil may Cry anime was based on the game? Didn't the game just had English audio and no Japanese audio at all (even the Japanese release of the game just had English audio with Japanese subtitle). The anime was recorded in Japanese first, then English audio came next. I recalled Reuben Langdon reprise his role as Dante for the anime (under the name Justin Cause). So if I was a Japanese fan of the game or a hardcore DMC fanboy and I saw the anime in Japanese, it'll sound strange to me because we are used to hearing Dante voice in English, not Japanese. We never hear him speaking Japanese in the game at all. The game never had any Japanese audio at all . See the problem with watching anime in Japanese? Now for the upcoming Supernatural anime, it's too early to tell but according to ANN, it looks like US is not writing the story and Supernatural creator Eric Kripke will serve as the project creator and Madhouse co-founder Masao Maruyama as executive producer, Shigeyuki Miya and Atsuko Ishizuka will be co-directing this anime spin-off. There's not much US involvement for this anime. It's confirmed that the Japanese cast who dub the character in the live-action series is going to voice the same character in their anime form. For the English voice, what if Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles reprise their role as Sam and Dean for the anime? Then how should we watch the Supernatural anime, English or Japanese? Also, Japanese voice acting does not equal best voice acting in the world. Surprisingly, I've never heard the "they don't know our language so they don't know how bad it is" argument. So if you think Japanese voice acting is the best in the world, watch this Japanese dub of Beasts War and you tell me if this dub sound much better then the English one. The Japanese dub have a lot of famous seriyus voicing the character Japanese cast list of Beasts War: Takehito Koyasu as Optimus Primal (Convoy in the Japanese dub) Shigeru Chiba as Megatron Kappei Yamaguichi as Rattrap Wataru Takagi as Cheetor Let's not forget the English VA for Beasts War are also anime VA like Scott Mcneill who voiced Rattrap, Dinobot and Waspinator is Duo Maxwell in Gundam Wings. David Kaye who is Megatron in Beast War is Sesshomaru in Inuyasha and Akane Tendo's father in Ranma 1/2. |
| When You get used to Dub , you will watch Dub When You get used to Sub , you will watch Sub only sub: 476 vote only dub: 22 vote Dub gives a bad impression at first and there is no further explanation are needed . I am having a trauma even when I saw the word " DUB ". Japanese speaking and non-Japanese speaking are the Same.both are language made for human to understand and there is no problem in it at all. i just hope Dub voice actor will not give up and they should put some EFFORT in their voice acting because it is hard to Dub a foreign works.I have to admit , I hate Japanese Dub when watching an English Movie. I am a hopeless Sub and Raw lover for Anime ....sry for being stubborn |
MorningGloryJun 24, 2010 6:36 AM
| it depends on anime ...some anime i watched,i like it sub because they have some word that only in sub can translate or show it...like ghost hunt "rin pyou tou sha kai jin retsu zai zen" ...when i just want the anime and the the script i just want it in dubb |
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Onibokusu said: >Personal opinion is fine and all >Criticises with own personal opinion Sorry, that was really harsh of me. Let me rephrase this. Do people notice the lack of effort put in to the dub? Do people acknowledge this? If so, why reward lack of effort with praise? |
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| I always go for sub animes, i never watch dub unless its on TV. The only dubbed anime i can tolerate is probably Fullmetal alchemist dubbed in english, I think the english voice actors did a really good job! |
NinthJake said: Subs 90% of the time. There are a few exceptions like FMA. IMO most American VAs don't have much emotion in their act. An example of that would be the terrible voice act of the female lead character in Hellsing. No emotions whatsoever. IMO, you're wrong. And since you apparently only watch an English dub 10% of the time, I probably am more likely to know what I'm talking about. God damn, I really wish people would stop saying this. At least the "Japanese voice acting is better" argument is somewhat understandable to be hearing. This whole "no emotion" bullshit is plain ignorance. ARXLaevatein said: Sorry, that was really harsh of me. Let me rephrase this. Do people notice the lack of effort put in to the dub? Do people acknowledge this? If so, why reward lack of effort with praise? Perhaps some people didn't see it as a lack of effort. Perhaps some of us thought the way they handled it was fine. And who knows? Maybe everything they did with it was for a good reason. |
| Sub is better than dub cuz in that way yuo can learn Japanese while watching the Anime ^^ |
-MgZ_ said: Sub is better than dub cuz in that way yuo can learn Japanese while watching the Anime ^^ Ah, it's not a very good way to learn Japanese... You may learn certain phrases or words, but you have to know when and how to use them. In the Japanese language, there are different levels of respect, and even though it may seem okay in anime, it might be offensive in the real world. You're better off taking lessons, or buying a book that can tell you about the language. |
Zarola said: -MgZ_ said: Sub is better than dub cuz in that way yuo can learn Japanese while watching the Anime ^^ Ah, it's not a very good way to learn Japanese... You may learn certain phrases or words, but you have to know when and how to use them. In the Japanese language, there are different levels of respect, and even though it may seem okay in anime, it might be offensive in the real world. You're better off taking lessons, or buying a book that can tell you about the language. Ok. Lol. Im just saying u can learn a simple word by that. |
Redfoxoffire said: ARXLaevatein said: Sorry, that was really harsh of me. Let me rephrase this. Do people notice the lack of effort put in to the dub? Do people acknowledge this? If so, why reward lack of effort with praise? Perhaps some people didn't see it as a lack of effort. Perhaps some of us thought the way they handled it was fine. And who knows? Maybe everything they did with it was for a good reason. Alright, well, I can't argue with you there (Fujibashi still irks me). Call it a truce? |
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ARXLaevatein said: Redfoxoffire said: ARXLaevatein said: Sorry, that was really harsh of me. Let me rephrase this. Do people notice the lack of effort put in to the dub? Do people acknowledge this? If so, why reward lack of effort with praise? Perhaps some people didn't see it as a lack of effort. Perhaps some of us thought the way they handled it was fine. And who knows? Maybe everything they did with it was for a good reason. Alright, well, I can't argue with you there (Fujibashi still irks me). Call it a truce? Yeah, even I can't think of a good reason for Fujibashi. I don't think this discussion has anywhere else to go, anyway. |
| That one was kinda fun to read :P |
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Kuyukly said: That one was kinda fun to read :P I would've ended up losing, since all I saw were a bunch of clips, and never anything substantial. |
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Kuyukly said: That one was kinda fun to read :P I do try. |
| Has this thread really been dominated by Kuyuchi and Redfoxoffire for 99 pages? That's kind of sad, both from the dubfan's perspective of only having two capable champions for the cause, and the fact sub fans can't seriously debate either of them. |
| That'll happen when you get stubborn fighters like us on the unpopular side of the fence against a whole bunch of bandwagoning nitwits who can't debate their way out of a paper bag. /brofist @ Redfoxoffire |
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nmanguy said: Can you really call it a debate? It's more like the weeaboo/dubfan cage match. That's what many people are trying to turn it in to (and always have, really) but Redfox has remained civil throughout. I know Kuyuchi rages against some of the stupidity pretty hard, but he's been dealing with it for a very long time so his impatience is understandable. |
| It's more like Conservation of Ninjutsu. |
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Asako said: Has this thread really been dominated by Kuyuchi and Redfoxoffire for 99 pages? That's kind of sad, both from the dubfan's perspective of only having two capable champions for the cause, and the fact sub fans can't seriously debate either of them. Well, I didn't enter the topic until page 66, so... I get into discussions like these on another forum I visit rather often, and have been doing it there much longer than I've been in the sub vs dub war, so I'm used to it. Over there it's not at all anime related, but the arguments and thought process used are similar so the experience helps. The only real difference is that the people I discuss with there are much more likely to know what they're doing as a result of the activity being somewhat popular, so arguments can go on for a lot longer between the same two people. I got into one discussion with another member that, all combined (because it was dropped and re-brought up at different times), was probably worth 10 20-post pages. That's 200 posts for those that aren't fast at math. |
| Redfox is probably far more effective than I am, rofl. I get angry and irrational :< Onibokusu said: nmanguy said: Can you really call it a debate? It's more like the weeaboo/dubfan cage match. Well, it has been a debate partly. The only opposing person I've seen with an argument to shake a stick at is Asako...good times. Which is why Asakochan is the only person in her channel besides myself that I allow to post in this thread :D Rofl |
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Kuyukly said: Redfox is probably far more effective than I am, rofl. I get angry and irrational :< I know the feeling. It's actually somewhat surprising to see others referring to me as the civil one in a way, not that it's a bad thing or that I disagree. Just a year ago I had the nickname Rage Fox for a while. |
| I'm not an opponent regardless. I'm a largely impartial fence sitter, and take the opportunity to swipe at both sides fairly equally. |
Asako said: I'm not an opponent regardless. I'm a largely impartial fence sitter, and take the opportunity to swipe at both sides fairly equally. Which is why we love you here :D Redfoxoffire said: Kuyukly said: Redfox is probably far more effective than I am, rofl. I get angry and irrational :< I know the feeling. It's actually somewhat surprising to see others referring to me as the civil one in a way, not that it's a bad thing or that I disagree. Just a year ago I had the nickname Rage Fox for a while. And yet here we are, with you carefully picking apart idiots' arguments while I rush in with a battle axe ready to tear it all down at once xD |
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| This is a shameless double post just so I can be the first one to post on page 100! >________________________________> |
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| I was tempted to delete my two posts and repost my good one but that would put Onibokusu at the bottom of the last page and that's just not right, man. Onibokusu said: Kuyukly said: Redfox is probably far more effective than I am, rofl. I get angry and irrational :< Well, it is fairly easy to get angry and irrational when you're repeating your argument to the 53rd person in a row. Sheesh...I've repeated the same counterarguments so many times I could do it in my sleep. With my nose. Onibokusu said: Kuyukly said: And yet here we are, with you carefully picking apart idiots' arguments while I rush in with a battle axe ready to tear it all down at once xD Since the positions of mage and berserker are taken...Does that make me 'the shield'? Well you DID take over slamming on mugenwalker before...xD |
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Onibokusu said: Kuyukly said: I was tempted to delete my two posts and repost my good one but that would put Onibokusu at the bottom of the last page and that's just not right, man. That's cool of you, but I am used to being on the bottom. ;D OHOHOHO REALLY NOW? ;D Onibokusu said: Well you DID take over slamming on mugenwalker before...xD All I was really seeing him do was say "I have seen more dubs than you, this makes what I am saying a fact" or something to that effect. Made little sense to me, so I wedged myself into the argument. I was more intrigued by his arrogant assumption that my opinion would suddenly change if only I'd watch more dubs. I mean, I know I can get arrogant and self-righteous, but that was just plain ridiculous. |
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| I like how this topic has become a light-hearted conversation about what's happened in the topic rather than discussing the actual topic itself. Onibokusu said: Well, it is fairly easy to get angry and irrational when you're repeating your argument to the 53rd person in a row. My solution is to not respond to anyone unless they seem to be trying to make a point. If I responded to everyone who said "Lol Dubs suck, subs ftfw!" I'd go insane. |
Asako said: Has this thread really been dominated by Kuyuchi and Redfoxoffire for 99 pages? That's kind of sad, both from the dubfan's perspective of only having two capable champions for the cause, and the fact sub fans can't seriously debate either of them. Well, I'm watching the thread and when I find an at least half-assed argument against dubs and feel like it I try to apply common sense. But as stated, I don't see much sense in replying to the majority of posts, which mostly have no argument at all or one of the handbook arguments which were proven wrong or incomplete dozens of times before. Also the two you mentioned (and others) are mostly faster with replying to the viable arguments so there's not much left to do. So I guess I'm kinda the back-up, entering the battlefield when Redfox or Kuyukly are on vacation or something like that ^^ |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Redfoxoffire said: I like how this topic has become a light-hearted conversation about what's happened in the topic rather than discussing the actual topic itself. Well, we're on page 100 now. It's bound to happen eventually. xD |
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| I could probably halve the size of the thread by going through and deleting all the one word and nonsense posts that violate rules. If you think 100 is rad or something. Still, deleting a thousand posts or more would be quite a bother. |
| What is this, the special recap episode? |
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| YES. YES IT IS. IT'S FAR MORE PLEASANT THAN ARGUING WITH IDIOTS :D |
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| Curiously, how often do you get slightly intelligent arguments from the opposition? |
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ARXLaevatein said: Curiously, how often do you get slightly intelligent arguments from the opposition? Not very often. It's usually just people calling him a catholic priest. Oh wait, that's just me calling him that. >.> |
| DAMMIT ASAKOCHAN I AM NOT A PEDO |
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Kuyukly said: DAMMIT ASAKOCHAN I AM NOT A PEDO Dubfag, paedophile. You've yet to definitively show me a difference. |
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