kuroshiroi said: @Sabinlerose: You're not using anything but your watching list anyway on a regular basis, so what's the big deal? Just display what you're using and tuck everything else away. Don't tell me you don't use folders or closets or whatever in real life? This is the same exact thing, just for a technical problem. And blank spot? Just put a pretty wallpaper... And as for other people's lists, if they had such a huge list that it contained more than 200 entries in any one section, loading it the first time will take around the same time as clicking between pages will now. You just have to click on the next page a handful of times, but the total time is very similar. If you want to compare, there's a handy shared anime/manga function which works much better. I honestly don't get what the big deal is, I've had my list on currently watching/reading for at least a year now, it's way faster and doesn't take forever to load and on the rare occasion I stray away from my watching list, it's to the ptw or on-hold part. But apparently people like to complain and people don't take kindly to change. I'll sign the "give us grand totals back" petition though. You put your anime in folders? o_O The "show all" was, in my opinion, the core function of an anime list, that way you can show off your anime list (aka: myanimelist). Now it's just a currently watching list. But I do agree that loading over 200 listings is quite irrational. Which is where my earlier suggestion of allowing all the areas to be shown, but paginated each one separately, comes into play. Such as 10 per currently watching, 200 for completed, 10 for dropped and so on. Obviously those are just random numbers. I would even be happy to limit my completed list to around 100 as long as everything else is there with it. edit: hell, even having a 200 limit as default with a "show all pages" button would certainly take some load off the servers. |
MalwareJun 12, 2010 12:22 AM
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| Maybe you could add search to list pages to replace ctrl+f, which has now become a pain to use. Also, Grand Totals are important. Please bring them back in some form. |
Crono_Maniac said: Believe me when I say it was not unnecessary. Xinil mentioned it was a long and tedious project. Do you think he did that 4 da lulz while MAL was troubled with other bugs that required his attention? There was a lot of thought and consideration involved here and apparently Xinil figured this would be the best solution to the problem. We don't "like to complain," we hate unnecessary and jarring change. Crono_Maniac said: I'm not the one who thought it up, but that's rather offensive. I'd say that only a spoiled little kid would come up with such a line...no offense. :(In conclusion, this is stupid and I hate it and I want it back the way it was and the person who's idea to do this is HITLER. Uh... No offense. |
AlphaEnd said: The "show all" was, in my opinion, the core function of an anime list, that way you can show off your anime list (aka: myanimelist). Now it's just a currently watching list. .. but everyone CAN see your entire list. It is even organized into 5 sections (as it was before) but instead of being all on the same page, they are in tabs. I cannot understand how scrolling down a long list until you find something like "dropped" is somehow "faster" or "better" Also Kuroishiroi pointed out the very important fact that some of you also don't seem to realize there is an easy way to compare your list with others. |
kuroshiroi said: @Sabinlerose: You're not using anything but your watching list anyway on a regular basis, so what's the big deal? Just display what you're using and tuck everything else away. Don't tell me you don't use folders or closets or whatever in real life? This is the same exact thing, just for a technical problem. And blank spot? Just put a pretty wallpaper... And as for other people's lists, if they had such a huge list that it contained more than 200 entries in any one section, loading it the first time will take around the same time as clicking between pages will now. You just have to click on the next page a handful of times, but the total time is very similar. If you want to compare, there's a handy shared anime/manga function which works much better. I honestly don't get what the big deal is, I've had my list on currently watching/reading for at least a year now, it's way faster and doesn't take forever to load and on the rare occasion I stray away from my watching list, it's to the ptw or on-hold part. But apparently people like to complain and people don't take kindly to change. I'll sign the "give us grand totals back" petition though. Completely incorrect though. Most of the time, I'm looking at OTHERS completed lists to give me new shows. And for some reason, after this update it takes longer to load the one tab then it ever did to load the entire list. >.< |
kuroshiroi said: I honestly don't get what the big deal is, I've had my list on currently watching/reading for at least a year now, it's way faster and doesn't take forever to load and on the rare occasion I stray away from my watching list, it's to the ptw or on-hold part. But apparently people like to complain and people don't take kindly to change. No offence, but you first admit that you didn't use the "show all" functionality, then you say that people just like to complain. But if they're complaining it's cause they really liked this functionality, which is not your case. Or maybe I can just say that a person not concerned by others complaints, apparently like to discredit them xD. |
Crono_Maniac said: More like separate shelves, or more realistically, completed volumes on a shelve and the currently reading stuff on your night stand but whatever, I clearly don't understand your viewpoint.We don't "like to complain," we hate unnecessary and jarring change. You may not care about looking at your completed list, but a lot of us do. Why take away options? Why ditch features almost everybody relishes for technical difficulties? I say it again, it's like asking us to keep manga we're still reading and manga we've finished in separate rooms. jacobpaige said: You don't remember titles? Really? Searching in English works too, you know, that should narrow things down for you and then the picture should help too :) But fair enough, I've occasionally done that. Most of my list is concentrated in Completed though, so I don't have to look long.I almost never look at my list, but when I do it so that I can find something to watch (which means I need to be able to see Currently Watching, Plan to Watch and Completed) or so that I can figure out if I've forgotten to add an anime to my list (since checking my list used to be faster than trying to remember how to spell things in a foreign language so that I could use the unforgiving search system), which generally requires me to be able to see multiple sections of my list at the same time. Kit said: All of these options are still available, usually just one extra click away...I use it for things like when I remember a manga I've read, but can't remember the name (and I'm not sure what list it's in), or if I want to check what score I gave something in comparison to something else, or if I want to see whether a series I'm thinking of is completed or not, and a lot more... AlphaEnd said: Yes? I even have 5 folders for it, just like the different list parts on MAL, where I move stuff from and to based on completions etc. Probably a little bit crazy and slightly more time-consuming but it's a lot more organised and easier to access this way.You put your anime in folders? o_O Sabinlerose said: http://myanimelist.net/shared.php?u1=Sabinlerose&u2=kuroshiroiMost of the time, I'm looking at OTHERS completed lists to give me new shows. And this is not what you want? kwizatz said: I also said I didn't get it, so... yeah. I was trying to understand though, sorry for that.No offence, but you first admit that you didn't use the "show all" functionality, then you say that people just like to complain. But if they're complaining it's cause they really liked this functionality, which is not your case. Or maybe I can just say that a person not concerned by others complaints, apparently like to discredit them xD. With all of these bad reactions, maybe a show all option would be nice, I won't miss it but clearly a lot of people do. Just don't give us the option to default it and maybe paginate the sections. Anyway. Edits for ninja posts. |
kuroshiroiJun 12, 2010 12:33 AM
| Could you please move the paging system to the bottom of the page? Having it on top is a pain. |
kuroshiroi said: Sabinlerose said: http://myanimelist.net/shared.php?u1=Sabinlerose&u2=kuroshiroiMost of the time, I'm looking at OTHERS completed lists to give me new shows. And this is not what you want? Why you were not using that feature is a little confusing, but even if you wanted to look at someone's "completed" list then just go to their list and click "completed" and then look around. Maybe click "page 2" if you need to, or whatever. .. and if you are curious as to what they've dropped then click on the "dropped" tab, etc. |
| @kuroshiroi: I never realized that showed ALL the anime titles between the two people. I always thought it was just ones that were the shared. Thanks, that helps a lot. |
ESSWHY said: kuroshiroi said: Sabinlerose said: http://myanimelist.net/shared.php?u1=Sabinlerose&u2=kuroshiroiMost of the time, I'm looking at OTHERS completed lists to give me new shows. And this is not what you want? Why you were not using that feature is a little confusing, but even if you wanted to look at someone's "completed" list then just go to their list and click "completed" and then look around. Maybe click "page 2" if you need to, or whatever. .. and if you are curious as to what they've dropped then click on the "dropped" tab, etc. It is a little confusing, and not exactly what I want. But it's much better then what the lists turned into. Loading that page took me one and a half seconds, instead of the minutes its taking to load the list tabs. |
Sabinlerose said: MAL could use a manual, but we already know nobody would read it ^^ And you're welcome.I never realized that showed ALL the anime titles between the two people. I always thought it was just ones that were the shared. |
| Anime List Settings: Default Status Selected: SHOW ALL So broken as far as I can tell. Otherwise, such interface changes (like the one that moved links from left to drop downs) really should be optional IMHO... |
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| not such a big deal, if coding isn't bad maybe 200 total entries of diff groups would be nice, but an extra click is nothing for better server speed performance |
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| Since the show all is gone now, you can't check grand totals, in which I sometimes check my total number or episodes, could you put that up somewhere else? |
| 124 - show all 1 - Watching lol e.e |
| I agree. Show all is, and has always been, incredibly useful. I have lots of shows that I go from On-hold to watching, due to a huge backlog, and being able to just scroll down is fantastic. The edit option doesn't help either, since I have a pretty long list, and it's difficult to find the series I'm looking for. As a default option, fine. But let users choose for themselves. |
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| My manga list is totally empty. |
| Meh, here's another idea - I guess I really don't need to have my list set on "show all" all of the time, but sometimes it is a really nice thing to have - for example, recommending shows to people and checking if they already watched it, or just finding the name of that show you forgot about. So why not keep pagination as the default, and have users type in a CAPTCHA to get the "show all" page. This way, people won't be able to abuse it as much, and be able to get their cake and eat it. |
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keideki said: This kinda sucks if you ask me, I liked having it all on one page. Same here. AlexSadist-sama said: My manga list is totally empty. Again, same here. |
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zlojcrash said: i think good idea to make pagination as default option, but enable "Show All" for manual enabling. Who like pagination or don't have skills for changing own view - was stay with pagination, and advanced users sets "Show All". I don't like this patch. Good idea to make opinion about this patch. P.S. Sorry for my ugly English. Agreed! The show all option is easier to navigate. It's sorely disappointing to get an update only to have an important option removed! |
| Hmm, now clicking on tags in the lists don't work, just reloads the whole page again, is it because of the pagination? |
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| Okay what about the people who have very large completed lists (200 plus) or others and want to review them? With this new update, THEY CAN'T DO IT! Not to mention grand totals are gone. |
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| I'll be adding a search option on the lists in the near future. Tags will be getting a rework (further down the road). I'll also be moving the location of the page links. Grand totals will be making its way back in the near future too (thought it probably won't be as detailed as before.) |
XinilJun 12, 2010 1:24 AM
| I do not need to see Currently Watching. Completed. On Hold. Plan to Watch. Dropped. on the same page. but would love to see my entire Completed list on one page. |
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| sorry well this change badly affects me,i really do like to see "Showw All", also its better to leave such optons at people liking, whether they want it or not but than again its upto u guys, i only hope u reconsider it ,plz |
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| Meh, doesn't bother me at all. |
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| I want "show all" status back. I think those users who have more than 200 items in each list would set status like "reading" or "custom" by there own, because other way they have to wait long while loading. ps I think voting will be usefull to decide whether it is needed update or not |
| I understand why it was done but I dont like it either. I liked having my whole list displayed at once and I also like updating it as I go. Its not nearly as impressive if all Im showing is Currently Watching... -sigh- For a second there I freaked out thinking my list got glitched so at least I know it was intentional. |
| Blergh. |
| well, i can't be the other way around ok, but same here as for the others.. i liked show all very very much.. it's much more useful than this now :/ |
| "If it's your wish, I will follow you everywhere, Even if your throne crumbles, And your shiny crown turns to rust, Even if the bodies pile up endlessly, Above the bottomless pile corpses, Beside you as you lie softly down, I will be.....Until i hear the words "check Mate." ♥ |
| ps also i think that 2 or 3 types (for example: "Currently Watching" and "Completed") will be nice |
| I've never had a problem with loading things... or MAL overall. Maybe when some people want fancy backgrounds. Don't like this update, much prefer to be able to 'Show all'. First time I've had a problem with this site :( Oh well. |
| Waiting an userscript which loads all of the pages and sections thus creating a virtual "show all". |
| Something. |
Xinil said: Sounds great, Xinil. Thanks!I'll be adding a search option on the lists in the near future. Tags will be getting a rework (further down the road). I'll also be moving the location of the page links. Grand totals will be making its way back in the near future too (thought it probably won't be as detailed as before.) |
| Well thats it, I'm moving my shit to AniDB. |
MisterSaito said: i want my 'show all' status back :< Same. |
| I don't even want "Show All" - I just want my Current Watching, Completed and Plan to Watch on the same page. It used to be so nice to see all my shows from those lists in the one place. Now, every time I see that huge space, it's just psychologically frustrating. I get it that it drains on the server to have the entire lists - but can we have the option to show 2 sections on one page at least? |
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| Wow, this makes the website shit. |
nx6 said: MisterSaito said: i want my 'show all' status back :< Same. |
| Need "show all"! Also, series marked as "rewatching" used to show up with "currently watching" -- now those titles are stuck with "completed." |
| thats work good with me , I already stopped showing my entire list because it will take time for the page to upload >>>> I really hate to wait for more than 2 seconds >.> |
chiisa said: nx6 said: MisterSaito said: i want my 'show all' status back :< Same. This. |
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jmal said: WcDuck said: Waiting an userscript which loads all of the pages and sections thus creating a virtual "show all". "Waiting" = "Wanting" or "Waiting on" or (hopefully) "Writing"? No I'm not that hardcore. But if someone could find time to actually produce the script, I'll gladly use it. Also, I don't know why but in my panel I have two Edit-buttons for every friend update. The other one just doesn't work. |
AnkkuliJun 12, 2010 2:18 AM
| Something. |
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