Bleach: Incarnate:  More comparisons and info here: http://community.livejournal.com/bleachness/446299.html Now you know what comic not to buy. |
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| It'll still probably sell relatively well because of whose son he is, but karma will come his way for plagiarism. |
| wtf? I'd say he didn't know better but he must of know. I mean fuck, he's involved in the comic world. |
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| What is sick is that those who don't know what Bleach is will think he has a unique or cool art style. :/ |
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| He should've picked a better manga. Still pretty funny nonetheless. If Kubo finds out, this is going to be hilarious. |
| I've looked at most of the images they got up and this guy is straight up stealing, lOL. I seriously lol'd at how much he's "changed" and put into his manga or comic (w.e the fuck it's called) |
| Wow this is messed up. Kubo should rain down his wrath on him and leave his corpse for the dogs. |
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| I actually read some info about Nick Simmons's work and it turns out to be a mere mini-comic, only 3 issues. So even is plagiarizing Incarnate off of Bleach (I never even heard of or seen all the pages of his comic so I can't determine for myself), I don't think it's really a big deal. It's not like people who are into American comics are going to notice this or even care if they did notice it. Not only that, but not many people into manga comics would care either since people on this site are discovering this 7 months after the mini-comics were first released. Though the weird part is that I would think Tite Kubo isn't going to give a damn since he lives in Japan. Yet apparently, that's not the case since he commented about this on Twitter! Too bad I can't even read what the hell it says. And Viz Media also says they're working on this issue. Though honestly, while plagiarizing is a problem, it's not like it's going to affect sales with the Bleach manga. If anything, Viz should worry more about releasing the Bleach DVDs and manga faster, especially since they have already done so with Naruto and are in the middle of doing so with One Piece. Honestly I doubt that 5 years from now people will care about this. Even Tite Kubo. I mean he's just going to continue making his chapters every week that involves Aizen being ridiculously unbeatable and not having certain characters reappear for the next 50+ chapters. |
| Lol, I wonder if he really thought he could get away with that? |
| Since most American youths hate anime and manga, they will never knew some of American artists do some dirty jobs by copying some manga. Hell even character designs itself are carbon copy of Bleach. |
Hypeathon said: I actually read some info about Nick Simmons's work and it turns out to be a mere mini-comic, only 3 issues. So even is plagiarizing Incarnate off of Bleach (I never even heard of or seen all the pages of his comic so I can't determine for myself), I don't think it's really a big deal. It's not like people who are into American comics are going to notice this or even care if they did notice it. Not only that, but not many people into manga comics would care either since people on this site are discovering this 7 months after the mini-comics were first released. Dude its still wrong if he makes money for it or claim the art as his own. I spread this news across facebook,myspace, and the Wow forums to let fans know what Nick Simmons is doing. He definitively needs some kind of punishment for it. |
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| Fail of a dad to a fail of a son...imagine that...Tite should sue this guy's nuts off...Tite has enough evidence to do this... |
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| Lmfao people "American people will never know". Not only do many american people know, but Radical Comics has halted the production of the comic, Viz is taking action, and Tite Kubo has commented on this. Trust me, Nick is screwed. |
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| Lol. Time to sue. |
| This is horrifically blatant plagiarism, especially with the last batch of comparison pics on that LiveJourrnal page. |
| idiot >.> did he really think he could get away with copying a popular manga - the guy needs to get a life! |
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| either way you slice it, that character would win a kenpachi look-a-like contest hands down |
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tehnominator said: Well, at least he has more backgrounds than Kubo. You make a good point. |
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| After looking through the livejournal post, it's apalling to see how much Bleach has been copied, and even some other mangas too. But at least it seems the publisher of the plagarized comic is looking into it and has halted production and distribution. Hopefully some justice for Kubo. |
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Hawaiian420 said: How stupid he can be he is trying to defend himself on face book saying he as no idea what manga is, when he as done interviews saying his favorite is Berserk. Oh God, this is actually true. Heh. I guess he had to go with Bleach instead of Berserk, considering his talentless ass would never be able to copy Miura's art. XD |
Jouten said: Dude its still wrong if he makes money for it or claim the art as his own. I spread this news across facebook,myspace, and the Wow forums to let fans know what Nick Simmons is doing. He definitively needs some kind of punishment for it. Foraii said: Hm, so the fact that Kubo Tite puts in hours of work to illustrate his mangas, meet deadlines and such (no matter how crappy it is that Aizen's become pretty much unbeatable) means nothing in something like this? And you want to be an animator (according to your profile), so imagine after all the hard work YOU'VE put into making the original artwork for your planned anime/future collaboration. Only for someone to come along and try and make a quick buck off your "finished" product? Sorry, but I'd be pretty pissed if that happened to me as well. It shouldn't matter WHERE Kubo Tite lives either =/ Okay hold on a minute. I want to clarify something right here and now. I never said it was not wrong that he plagiarized off of Tite Kubo's work. Nor did I say it was right. I also want to clarify that as an aspiring artist, I would normally find this as a bad thing. If as an aspiring animator I made animations to show off to the internet and someone reuploaded the animation, claiming it as their own, then I would be pissed. However understand my perspective as to why I said what I said earlier (and you don't have to agree with me on this either, this is just my opinion). Now, how does the fact a comic artist, who has barely made his way into the edge of the comic business by making a story that has only lasted 3 issues for several months (thus being short-lived), ultimately affect the mangaka of Bleach and Hellsing and Viz Media? Did they lose money? Did they lose fans? Did Nick Simmons even have a fanbase to begin with for his artwork? Now if say this incident happened 5-7 years ago, where the anime adaptation of Tite Kubo's manga just started, then yes, I would find that as a problem. If say Nick Simmons chose to do another comic series after Incarnate and is still consistently plagiarizing off of Bleach or anything else, then I personally don't think he can get away with that. But the way I see it, when a manga artist has a comic that has become so popular, it has been adapted to a 250+ episode anime, 3 movies (and an upcoming fourth one), several video games, action figures, card games, and a musical, a small-time comic that lasted as long as Zombie powder (Kubo's other manga) and without any franchise behind it, doesn't seem to pose as a problem. Besides, obviously he has fans of Bleach that are aware of who is the original and who is the poser (the poser being Nick Simmons). It's like due to the popularity of Bleach, it has already been watermarked, so people would know by now who has the original comic art style. |
| Hypeathon: You miss the point. It's not how this would possibly "damage" the sales on Bleach, but merely the fact that what Nick has done here is illegal. Taking credit and making a career out of other peoples work is dishonest, and it isn't any less of a crime because those who are ripped off are rich/famous. |
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Veggen said: Hypeathon: You miss the point. It's not how this would possibly "damage" the sales on Bleach, but merely the fact that what Nick has done here is illegal. Taking credit and making a career out of other peoples work is dishonest, and it isn't any less of a crime because those who are ripped off are rich/famous. Look, I'm aware of all of that what he did was wrong morally and illegally! You're pretty much saying exactly what, everyone else said. Thus what's your point? Are you trying to tell me something I don't know? I mean what part of I'm not defending him and merely giving my opinion of how the situation affects Tite Kubo does everyone not understand?! I'm giving off my point, not the point. If Nick Simmons is going to be hold accountable for all of this, then fine, whatever! No skin off of my bones really since the guy set it upon himself and even if he somehow didn't copy off of Bleach and Hellsing deliberately, he shouldn't have been so careless about it. I didn't even know Nick Simmons does artwork, nor do I care for his work since I never even saw it before. Hell, I'm not even a fan of Kiss. Anyway, I already made my opinion on the matter and already stated that if you or anyone else disagrees with this, then fine. You didn't have to agree with it. And on a side note, apparently Tite Kubo himself doesn't seem to care all that much about the issue at hand. He's suprised that Nick Simmons even does comic art. |
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| Hypeathon: I'm really not repeating what anyone here said. I mostly responded to this part: Hypeathon said: But the way I see it, when a manga artist has a comic that has become so popular, it has been adapted to a 250+ episode anime, 3 movies (and an upcoming fourth one), several video games, action figures, card games, and a musical, a small-time comic that lasted as long as Zombie powder (Kubo's other manga) and without any franchise behind it, doesn't seem to pose as a problem. So, my point is that you (at least from how I'm reading your post, anyway) is making it look that there is a correlation between fame/sales and the issue of the crime. So no, I'm not trying to shed some new light over this case, because it's a mess of an Internet sensation and this issue has been discussed too many times already. I merely responded to parts of your post which might cause confusion, and evidently did, considering the people who responded to you. |
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Hypeathon said: I actually read some info about Nick Simmons's work and it turns out to be a mere mini-comic, only 3 issues. So even is plagiarizing Incarnate off of Bleach (I never even heard of or seen all the pages of his comic so I can't determine for myself), I don't think it's really a big deal. It's not like people who are into American comics are going to notice this or even care if they did notice it. Not only that, but not many people into manga comics would care either since people on this site are discovering this 7 months after the mini-comics were first released. Though the weird part is that I would think Tite Kubo isn't going to give a damn since he lives in Japan. Yet apparently, that's not the case since he commented about this on Twitter! Too bad I can't even read what the hell it says. And Viz Media also says they're working on this issue. Though honestly, while plagiarizing is a problem, it's not like it's going to affect sales with the Bleach manga. If anything, Viz should worry more about releasing the Bleach DVDs and manga faster, especially since they have already done so with Naruto and are in the middle of doing so with One Piece. Honestly I doubt that 5 years from now people will care about this. Even Tite Kubo. I mean he's just going to continue making his chapters every week that involves Aizen being ridiculously unbeatable and not having certain characters reappear for the next 50+ chapters. I can't read Kanji fluently, but from what I can tell, he said that from last night to today (as in, whenever it was he wrote the tweet), he'd been getting messages from American Bleach fans telling him about Gene Simmons' son Nick Simmons. He says that they linked him to the site or something like that. Any way, the part that I'm not understanding well is the sentence with "doumo" in it. He's either thanking the American fans for bringing it to his attention, or thanking Nick Simmons, in an "imitation is the highest form of compliment" kinda way. I'm leaning toward thanking the fans for notifying him, since I can't gather much proof of the other thing from what little I can read. |
Panaru said: Hypeathon said: I actually read some info about Nick Simmons's work and it turns out to be a mere mini-comic, only 3 issues. So even is plagiarizing Incarnate off of Bleach (I never even heard of or seen all the pages of his comic so I can't determine for myself), I don't think it's really a big deal. It's not like people who are into American comics are going to notice this or even care if they did notice it. Not only that, but not many people into manga comics would care either since people on this site are discovering this 7 months after the mini-comics were first released. Though the weird part is that I would think Tite Kubo isn't going to give a damn since he lives in Japan. Yet apparently, that's not the case since he commented about this on Twitter! Too bad I can't even read what the hell it says. And Viz Media also says they're working on this issue. Though honestly, while plagiarizing is a problem, it's not like it's going to affect sales with the Bleach manga. If anything, Viz should worry more about releasing the Bleach DVDs and manga faster, especially since they have already done so with Naruto and are in the middle of doing so with One Piece. Honestly I doubt that 5 years from now people will care about this. Even Tite Kubo. I mean he's just going to continue making his chapters every week that involves Aizen being ridiculously unbeatable and not having certain characters reappear for the next 50+ chapters. I can't read Kanji fluently, but from what I can tell, he said that from last night to today (as in, whenever it was he wrote the tweet), he'd been getting messages from American Bleach fans telling him about Gene Simmons' son Nick Simmons. He says that they linked him to the site or something like that. Any way, the part that I'm not understanding well is the sentence with "doumo" in it. He's either thanking the American fans for bringing it to his attention, or thanking Nick Simmons, in an "imitation is the highest form of compliment" kinda way. I'm leaning toward thanking the fans for notifying him, since I can't gather much proof of the other thing from what little I can read. I think it was the former in which he was thanking his fans. I'm not saying that because I can read kanji or anything. I just believe that to be the case according to whoever translated his tweet on Anime News Network. I'm still somewhat suprised though that Incarnate was first published months ago and it's suddenly becoming a huge issue right now. |
Hawaiian420 said: How stupid he can be he is trying to defend himself on face book saying he as no idea what manga is, when he as done interviews saying his favorite is Berserk. Wow this guy is just digging a deeper hole for himself. http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Incarnate If this guy's never heard of manga, Vanilla Ice never listened to rap, either. Anyway, I don't care about Bleach (or Hellsing, for that matter), but this guy is obviously a plagiarizing tool. Gene Simmons is goddamn prick, anyway, so it figures that his progeny turns out to be the same. Fuck KISS, fuck Nick Simmons, and fuck Incarnate. |
| As I wrote in the other topic; Moral of the story- If you're going to shamelessly steal work for your shitty comic, choose something less well-known than a mega blockbuster shounen like Bleach or Hellsing. |
| Naburo>Incarnate. |
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Hawaiian420 said: How stupid he can be he is trying to defend himself on face book saying he as no idea what manga is, when he as done interviews saying his favorite is Berserk. Wow this guy is just digging a deeper hole for himself. http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Incarnate Manga? I'm afraid you're mistaken friend. It's "magma". Or so Nick says. |
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kevin_video said: Hawaiian420 said: How stupid he can be he is trying to defend himself on face book saying he as no idea what manga is, when he as done interviews saying his favorite is Berserk. Wow this guy is just digging a deeper hole for himself. http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Incarnate Manga? I'm afraid you're mistaken friend. It's "magma". Or so Nick says. The facebook msgs were apparently trolls. |
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kage-bunshin said: either way you slice it, that character would win a kenpachi look-a-like contest hands down Yeah... it looks a lot like Kenpachi, just with different hair colour |
| This is a rough Translation of what Tite Kubo said in his first Twitter post- Run from last night in this morning what is; and from a terrible numerical overseas fan [there are comics imitating BLEACH in U.S.A.!]A]-like reply became available. Well, English isn't heated well a site if look; though there wasn't it, that seemed to be [is the comic which Nic Simmons of the son of Gene Simmons draws] was pictured for some reason. |
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| There's SO much evidence to report this lol. Its so obvious, like Kenpachi and that one guy (VERY similar), the main similarity between Orihime and that other girl's eye structure. When I saw that Shinji was copied, I was like "OH HELL NO D:< " |
| his drawings are really bad |
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