| Let's address the elephant in the room: animation. Not only season 1 set the bar way too high, it was mostly made by freelancers, top tier folks, so something like that will NEVER. EVER. HAPPEN. AGAIN. Accept it. We've watched season 2. We know what to expect from season 3 animation wise. So why bother complaining like they could do any better? J.C Staff rarely works with freelancers like Madhouse or Mappa do. They also pump out, in average, 10 anime in a YEAR. Let's be honest, what other studio can manage to do that other than Toei and keep a consistent overall (mid) quality? If anything, season 3 got the BEST in house director of photography, so it looks way better than season 2. "But it looks static. One Powerpoint Man" so did season 2. And season 2 got excellent action scenes done by talented in house staff. The biggest issue was the horrible coloring choices and post production fx. They work overloaded AF. And yet, Nagai managed to finish the job before airing, in a studio like J.C it's a fucking milestone. Let us remember JJK season 2 literally making episodes 1 day before airing, hiring over 50 freelancers for 2nd ka. So stop crying over Season 1’s untouchable glory and give J.C. Staff some credit for pulling off Season 3 under their crazy workload. It’s not gonna be Madhouse, but it’s already better than season 2. If you really want to blame someone, blame Shueisha and Bandai, the main members of the production committee: They're the ones who chose to stay with J.C Staff again. |
People will be complaining about the animation even if it is objectively good. In this case they just have much more validity. |
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| So, peoples have to be okay about how bad the direction was? Good Coloring doesn't matter if even the story telling was fucking bad |
DrkSeid69Yesterday, 4:21 AM
| It's funny though. |
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Reply to Triksy
Why are people so afraid to have standards? You're allowed to expect more than a power point presentation you know?
OPM deserves better than this.
OPM deserves better than this.
| @Triksy OPM does deserve better, but that means fixing how committees fund and schedule shows, not pretending animators can magically output Madhouse-level work under J.C. Staff’s current load. |
Reply to DrkSeid69
So, peoples have to be okay about how bad the direction was? Good Coloring doesn't matter if even the story telling was fucking bad
| @DrkSeid69 That's literally what I didn't say. People should set realistic expectations, considering all that's written in my post. Also, bad direction ≠ bad storytelling. It can be either the manga to blame and/or the scriptwriter. Also, the direction wasn't BAD, it was mid. Anyway, it's a buildup episode, the team had to set their priorities to the action scenes. |
Reply to felipeliborio
It was a massively popular show in great part for the high-quality production, so people are entitled to want it to keep the quality as high as possible. Maybe it doesn't have enough merch sales to pay for new seasons that are the same level as season 1, but frankly, most of this show's appeal was its production quality. So it's been a drag to keep watching it after season 1.
| @felipeliborio That's not how anime funding works. The budget is mostly low to mid. Tv anime is cheap, period. "But season 1" Season 1 had an average budget, the talented staff+ Madhouse's inner resources (contacts, more people to allocate since they don't make even half the anime J.C does) were the real MVP. |
| why didn't natsume accept ssn 2 and he chose to do other unpopular series over this mega project...? is it because they didn't pay him well for his hardwork...?? or any internal conflicts between him n producers of opm...?  |
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| Stop fucking coping and face it: season 2 sucks ass and season 3 might be better, but is still ass. Why is it a bad thing that fans expect the same quality of season 1 for the sequels? What, because everyone worked hard on it so it's immediately praise worthy? That's not how it works in the real world and as an adult you should know it. No matter how much work you put into something, if the end result is not of satisfactory then people won't appreciate it for what it is. And JC Staff pumping out 10 anime a year due to their busy schedule is not a good thing. If it's not doable then don't pick this ip up, more so with the tight deadline. I'm not blaming the animators, I'm blaming JC Staff as a studio for pushing its workers to do a job that's basically impossible to work with, resulting in this pathetic animation for a popular manga with an amazing art style. Tell you what, JC Staff also does The Railgun Series and they look awesome. I'm not expecting a season 1 level of animation, I'm asking it to be decent, and better than an official colored comic panels. Stop fucking coping people. |
"Nobody could laugh at someone who's trying their hardest" -Machio- |
Piromysl said: People will be complaining about the animation even if it is objectively good. In this case they just have much more validity. hahah this is funny |
| I never liked OPM in the first place - Mob Pyscho 100 is much better - so I didn't care much about the animation even it was good or bad. To be fair, OPM needs more than just animation, its just a parody which should have ended sooner since the only reason OPM got popular is just too see a OP bald man punching things. |
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| Some anime start off with an amazing first season but completely fall off later. Funny thing is, I haven’t even watched One Punch Man or Blue Lock, yet both turned mid afterwards guess I’ve got a built-in superpower for predicting which anime are gonna flop later. |
| I have said it before and will say it again: Madhouse set the bar too high. |
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| I agree that season 1 set the bar very high but that doesn't excuse the issues that are currently plaguing the anime. One Punch Man is an action series, not a slice of life drama. It needs a studio that can dedicate a decent stretch of time to developing the adaptation the right way. If you can't properly adapt an action anime, you shouldn't try to. It doesn't need to be perfect but episode 1 has a lot of issues and it's leaving people concerned about how the rest of the season will pan out. And I don't have to blame anyone. I'm pirating the anime so I don't even support it. I'm not angry or even that disappointed. The manga is good enough for me. But there are definitely issues. |
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| I never expected season 3 animation to be anywhere near season 1 level, but could've at least not made the first episode look like a powerpoint slideshow with barely any animation. |
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| I'm pretty sure J.C. Staff also works with a lot of free-lancers tho... |
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Thread Cleaned. No need to insult if you agree/disagree. |
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Reply to sodrainz
ManoCustaff said:
If you really want to blame someone, blame Shueisha and Bandai, the main members of the production committee: They're the ones who chose to stay with J.C Staff again.
If you really want to blame someone, blame Shueisha and Bandai, the main members of the production committee: They're the ones who chose to stay with J.C Staff again.
JC Staff could turn it down citing workload issues but they wanted money from fanboys that will watch and defend this even if it was at A-Cat level garbage
| @sodrainz That's why it took 6 years, overload workload, but the committee chose to wait for them to have time. Mappa could probably do a season in the meantime, though. |
| JC Staff is just not a good studio for anime that has serious action sequences in it. best they can do is danmachi grade stuff. where there is some low key action every few episodes and a major sequence once a season. they are notorious for their powerpoint presentation style at least since the days of the season-to-season quality drops of Shokugeki no Souma. its a studio that at its current form can at best hope to squeeze out 8 out of 10s but mostly won't reach that level either. i did not come into S2 expecting miracles out of JC Staff, but rather, they should stay in their element if they can't provide the goods. so S3 is no surprise either. there's no reason to shill for a bad product. i don't understand why some fans of media take it upon themselves to run to the defense of slop providers, merely because they are afraid that the supply of slop would cease. i see it in among gaming fans all the time. like the people who ran to the defense of Anthem, GTA Definitive Edition or any UBI-crap that comes out. its bad. its ok for us to lament its bad. if we say that something thats bad is good, it won't make it actually good, and the bar will be lowered even more. i don't have anything personal against JC Staff, i like saiki and bakuman and other stuff they did. but i also don't see a reason to be a mark for them. |
AntiMidianYesterday, 2:07 PM
I just wanted to laugh at clowns throwing pies and spraying water via flowers at each other, and you took that away… ),: |
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| first ep was totally ok. Stable artline And as for the animation, you can't even rate it because nothing happened there. xD People are going to extremes. This is only the first episode. We'll only know the quality of this season in a while. I hate it when someone like ChibiReviews creates a drama around an anime, judging it based on the first episode. It might be bad, it might be average, it might be good. It's too early to judge. |
| i watched season 1 so long ago that i barely remember the standard of most of that season, so forget comparing it to that. this just looks shit on its own, without any comparison. |
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| I never really cared that much about the OPM animation quality considering most of Saitama's fights are ended with 1 punch. To me it was a Comedy spoof before anything else with action being more a set piece than the actual point of it. There wasn't really anything in ep1 worth animating in high quality either it was a huge exposition dump. I still hope the actual fight sequences can look decent and smooth when warranted, but generally don't expect much from most of Saitama's fights. It's just nice to see in anime format vs the Manga, some voice acting get some jokes going and sprinkle in a dash of epic here and there. Theres definitely been anime made with worse animation quality than S2 had so I dont really get the complaints. If anything it's just nice they even bothered to make season 3 at this point. |
Reply to sodrainz
@ManoCustaff Still their fault, in part. OPM S3 was announced in Aug 2022 right in the middle of JC Staff still working on Danmachi S4 and MachiMa S2 at the very least. And they scheduled it in a year that they'd be working on 5-6 other shows (Honey Lemon, Boy Girl Friendship, the 9999 gacha, Dad is a hero, and likely the Patlabor revival and Tamon B both slated to air early next year). But they still chose to take it so they're not faultless in the decision.
| @sodrainz When I watched the (I guess) Anime Man video when he took a tour at J.C Staff, they were making "Combatants Will Be Dispatched!" And I remember the director telling him that studios can indeed deny an anime proposal from the committee, but as far as things went, it's safe to say they mostly never deny any. So yes, in some small part, the studio has some fault indeed, but also why spend 4-5 years waiting for them to make room for OPM 3? It's not like they didn't know what to expect, we literally got a 2nd season by J.C, so still, the fault still lies mostly on the production committee. As I said before, Mappa could probably fit a small 12 ep season in that meantime. It wouldn't top season 1 but it would be miles better than what we're getting. |
| Someone just dropping bomb with full explosive fact here. |
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| Truth is, even season 1 isn't as good as the manga, and I'm talking about the action. Murata is an absurd human. Also truth: season 2 isn't that atrocious thing everyone talks about, I consider it 7/10 because it's the point where the plot starts getting interesting because of Garou, but comparing it to season 1 is inevitable. Even if season 1 only had one important moment: Boros vs Saitama. I'm a One Punch Man fanboy but before this fight there's not much to watch, only comedy moments and one-punch moments. Last but not least, we didn't need another season by JC Staff. One Punch Man and Sakamoto Days are perfect examples of awesome action manga that got awful anime production. But the production staff needs to skyrocket the manga sales using the anime as advertisement, I guess. Somehow I feel like I took off a weight on my shoulders by saying all this. |
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