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| Peak was ruined by author's wet fantasies about having it all. Lost all respect I had for Roxy. |
| I hate everyone equally |
| Not gonna lie, there were many moments in this anime I had to reflect on my own life, and putting more thought into how I am in respect to my family. It gives me a glimpse of the difference between being a big brother, son, and father. |
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| Rudeus temporarily freaks out because of the so called regret Hitogami warned him of. He then announces Paul's death to the family. He explains everything to Sylphiette, Aisha and Norn. Norn was being reasonable this episode. When Rudeus confessed taking Roxy as his second wife, Norn reacted for Sylphiette. But Sylphiette welcomed Roxy warmly. Roxy wanted to wait for the baby to be born before they get married. Sylphiette gave birth to a baby girl. They named her Lucy Greyrat. He married Roxy. They finally showed Eris in this part, though only her back. |
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| I’ve seen so many comments with various opinions. It’s the author who determines the direction of the story, and of course, sometimes their personal thoughts, kink, fantasies, and preferences are reflected in the work. Honestly, a harem setting fits well within this world and the female characters, but don't you all see the real issue? It's about consent and dishonesty—it’s absolutely wrong to promise your wife you’ll be faithful while she’s carrying your child, only to break that promise. The problem isn't the harem itself; it’s Rudeus’ actions. The story could’ve been handled much better, without resorting to cheating, but that's just my opinion. |
Exiz79Mar 5, 12:38 AM
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| Where do I even start with this show/story. There are too many issues that I have with the show despite the show having the best and clean animation to boot. Honestly it has beautiful looking settings that looks unique but I felt like they are just a freaking backdrop to give a fantasy feel. They barely explored and most of the time I always feel like the show breeze through the story very fast that it never really feel like we ever sinking ourself into the environment to explore. So with the show boasting great world building, this is just a total waste at best. The same can be said with its magic system and the monsters. They tend to be leaning to offensive and powerful side which make it lacking varieties and capabilities. All the monsters are gruesome looking but generic since the beginning to end. Then the characters and the overall narrative. Oh boy, look at how the show/story massacre the female characters for the sake of "building big family" ala Rudeus. All of them just turned into submissive, all loving kind wives to give an ugly bastard/ scumbag a "good life." I can say that the author really made a perfect fantasy that could made harem feels justified to one's will. I'd rather be a scumbag than having a regret, he said. His partners never have any agency themselves once they become his love interest. When I thought Slyphie is the worst heroine, the author managed to make a twist by forcing a change in Roxy's character. She stoop so low to the point of "taking advantage" knowingly he already has a wife and just grieving for the death of his father. Then she also forcing her way to be the second wife right in front of his family that have waited for him after a long time, seriously? Despite all of this, one thing is very certain to me. Nord is inarguably the best character in Mushoku Tensei, nuff said. Her insecurity for living with someone distant to her and how she's the only one that aginst Rudeus excuse or BS to have second wife really make her the only character that feels genuine. I also don't like how things come rather easily to him like everything is given to him in silver platter without much difficulty at all. From the demon eye, potion, teleportation map and lastly the girls with their vanilla taste ice cream lmao. |
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| Anime is anime. It's fiction, and as a whole plot, it might not be aligned with our own beliefs in the real world. In their world, if you are a follower of Millis, you must only be devoted to one wife. Nothing more, nothing less. However, you can have many wives if you aren't a follower of Millis. Norm has a belief. She's a follower of Millis, so it doesn't invalidate her feelings towards the situation. Rudeus and Paul are still better than any man who has multiple wives because they still care for their wives' happiness despite breaking their promises. Creating a story doesn't limit us by our beliefs. It goes beyond what we believe in. It is imaginative. |
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Reply to gamermaniacow
WTF was that ending? What a trainwreck. It ruined this whole series.
I can think on multiple ways the author could have presented the same concept without being this bad.
They presented Polygamy a few moments before using this card. They could have presented this concept way sooner, For example when Sylphie tells Rudeus that he can have children with a concubine. Or even better, when Paul cheated his mother. Easy.
Roxy in my vision was a idealistic character. She even says she would fall in love for a man in a dungeon on s1. She could have said to Rudeus that she would only f*ck him if he married her. But nope. Loli Bitch right after his father died. What in the actual fuck was that. They ruined her character completely. On top of that, Rudeus just cheating while mourning his father. This is some ridiculous writing.
Elinalise telling Rudeus to marry Roxy after they just f*cked lmao. And Rudeus ACTUALLY DOING THAT ROFL. What the hell? Bro don't have nothing in his mind. If Rudeus suddenly realized his father last words, telling about the two swords, it would have been way more impactful. Both characters would be likeable.
And then, he told about Roxy on front of his sisters WTF. And Norn just start screaming WHAT THE HELL. Why she is the one doing this? What does this has to do with her? Only for Sylphie to agree a few seconds later LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
And why we still have the fat protagonist? It feels so irrelevant and obnoxious at this point. The last encounter with the God was super annoying.
On top of all this, the slave episode was completely out of character. Rudeus didn't reacted at all. What would Ruijerd do to Rudeus a few episodes later if he knew what he did? Problem was not the slave concept, but the way they handled things.
Some really bad writing.
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But Sylphie new look with long hair was absolute fabulous. Almost saved that disastrous ending. Totally best girl (Sorry Roxy, they ruined you, and Sylphie was too gorgeous).
I loved MT because the characters were so likeable, but they ruined them in just 2 episodes.
I don't comment here, but this season finale made me do it.
I can think on multiple ways the author could have presented the same concept without being this bad.
They presented Polygamy a few moments before using this card. They could have presented this concept way sooner, For example when Sylphie tells Rudeus that he can have children with a concubine. Or even better, when Paul cheated his mother. Easy.
Roxy in my vision was a idealistic character. She even says she would fall in love for a man in a dungeon on s1. She could have said to Rudeus that she would only f*ck him if he married her. But nope. Loli Bitch right after his father died. What in the actual fuck was that. They ruined her character completely. On top of that, Rudeus just cheating while mourning his father. This is some ridiculous writing.
Elinalise telling Rudeus to marry Roxy after they just f*cked lmao. And Rudeus ACTUALLY DOING THAT ROFL. What the hell? Bro don't have nothing in his mind. If Rudeus suddenly realized his father last words, telling about the two swords, it would have been way more impactful. Both characters would be likeable.
And then, he told about Roxy on front of his sisters WTF. And Norn just start screaming WHAT THE HELL. Why she is the one doing this? What does this has to do with her? Only for Sylphie to agree a few seconds later LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
And why we still have the fat protagonist? It feels so irrelevant and obnoxious at this point. The last encounter with the God was super annoying.
On top of all this, the slave episode was completely out of character. Rudeus didn't reacted at all. What would Ruijerd do to Rudeus a few episodes later if he knew what he did? Problem was not the slave concept, but the way they handled things.
Some really bad writing.
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But Sylphie new look with long hair was absolute fabulous. Almost saved that disastrous ending. Totally best girl (Sorry Roxy, they ruined you, and Sylphie was too gorgeous).
I loved MT because the characters were so likeable, but they ruined them in just 2 episodes.
I don't comment here, but this season finale made me do it.
| @gamermaniacow I'd be tempted to just label your comment as rage bait given this is your only post, but as your account has been around for 6 years now I'll consider it real. I'm not going to say you shouldn't hate the ending as you do, everyone has their own tastes. But a lot of context was omited from the LN due to time constraints. That context could change your opinion somewhat. Here is what was left out: 1. The sex didn't happen "right after" Pauls death. There was an unshown timeskip in the anime. After Paul died and Rudy found out Zenith was a shell, he didn't leave his room to eat or socialize for over a week straight. That's why his face looked so poor. The death of Paul and the loss of Zenith finally got him to remember his old parents, and he felt a crushing guilt at how he never bothered to go to their funeral, that he never did anything for them. He effectivly got hit with a double-wammy of 2 sets of parents deaths at once. 2. When Roxy enters Rudy's room, she does try to suade him to have sex with her, but Rudy is the one who actually initiates, she just lets it happen. After, Rudy indirectly admits to her that he is reincarnated, explaining that doesn't know how to help the parents he left behind. Roxy says that the only thing he can do is help the family in front of him, which reminds him of his vow to live his new life to the fullest. It wasn't the sex that cheered him up, it was his confession along with Roxy reminding him of his family that got him moving. 3. The conversation Elinalise has with Rudy about marrying Roxy was mostly the same, but Rudy actually isn't convinced and intended to let Roxy go to try and do right by Sylphy. Elinalise then lies to Rudy saying that Roxy hasn't been getting her periods for the last couple months of travel, suggesting that she got pregnant. Rudy then does a 180 and decides to marry Roxy as a means to take responsibility. He only finds out after Roxy was accepted that Roxy wasn't pregnant and Elinalise set him up. It's also the exact same tactic Rudy did to Zenith when she found out Paul got Lilia pregnant. 4. In the episode where slave is purchased, the anime doesn't depict it for some reason, but both Rudeus and Sylphy are overhwhelmingly uncomfortable being in the slave market. 5. The anime skipped over a lot of the more mundane details from the school arc, but one of the take aways is that Sylphy has a very unhealthy opinion of herself. She idolizes Rudy much in the same way he idolizes Roxy, and she sees herself as unworthy of being Rudy's wife. That's why she was always suggesting that he could have concubines or have kids with other women if she can't get pregnant. It was her unhealthy way of compromising or bartering her worth, because she always dreamed of being married to Rudy since she was a kid and didn't want to lose it. She actually states later that when Rudy said he had something important to talk about and Roxy had stayed behind, she was terrified that Rudy was going to announce that he didn't love her anymore and was going to leave her for Roxy. I'm not going to say this context should change your opinion, but I think it's worth noting that all those things you brought up in your post were built or touched upon and weren't just thrown in last minute like it shows in the anime. |
| Like father like son .Lol poor you - it was never my intention ..it was roxy who put her feelings on the line .So in other words please absolve me of my wrongdoings bcz i was bereft of consent and was a dead fish while taking part in it.I expected better coz he is heaven's apart from his real world self and unlike Paul doesn't suffer from tunnel vision.The whole messy harem thingy was handled in a infantile direction ,not that i hate harem in fiction. Anyway it gets a 6 from me |
Reply to Rexnihilo
2:04 Sylphy in 8 months has evolved into a MILF!
6:32 OMG RUDY SAYING WHAT PUAL SAID TO HIM!
16:30 Sylphy W! ROXY WELCOME TO THE FAMILY!
18:52 THE BABY IS BORN! ALSO SYLPHY isn't flat anymore! SHE"S A FULL ON MILF NOW!
20:07 🪦 Paul.
22:57 Cliff and Elinalise nice.
23:02 RUIJERD and BADIGADI!
23:05 ERIS!
10/10 episode. MAN THIS SEASON WAS SO PEAK! I actually cried. HYPED FOR SEASON 3!
Also I was prepared for the worst thinking something bad must've happened like Rudy but SO GLAD EVERYONE IS OK! SLYPHY IS SAFE! THE BABY GIRL WAS BORN! AISHA AND NORN ARE SAFE TOO! Also Rudy's first child! Lucie Greyrat! Another addition to the family!
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6:32 OMG RUDY SAYING WHAT PUAL SAID TO HIM!
16:30 Sylphy W! ROXY WELCOME TO THE FAMILY!
18:52 THE BABY IS BORN! ALSO SYLPHY isn't flat anymore! SHE"S A FULL ON MILF NOW!
20:07 🪦 Paul.
22:57 Cliff and Elinalise nice.
23:02 RUIJERD and BADIGADI!
23:05 ERIS!
10/10 episode. MAN THIS SEASON WAS SO PEAK! I actually cried. HYPED FOR SEASON 3!
Also I was prepared for the worst thinking something bad must've happened like Rudy but SO GLAD EVERYONE IS OK! SLYPHY IS SAFE! THE BABY GIRL WAS BORN! AISHA AND NORN ARE SAFE TOO! Also Rudy's first child! Lucie Greyrat! Another addition to the family!
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| @Rexnihilo I love it minute 16 ony 7 to above deserve my 10/10 first episodes was a little boring: 8 in total |
Reply to Exiz79
I’ve seen so many comments with various opinions. It’s the author who determines the direction of the story, and of course, sometimes their personal thoughts, kink, fantasies, and preferences are reflected in the work. Honestly, a harem setting fits well within this world and the female characters, but don't you all see the real issue? It's about consent and dishonesty—it’s absolutely wrong to promise your wife you’ll be faithful while she’s carrying your child, only to break that promise. The problem isn't the harem itself; it’s Rudeus’ actions. The story could’ve been handled much better, without resorting to cheating, but that's just my opinion.
| Exactly, so many defenders don't even understand the point. It's not about being against a harem. It's the way it happened and how extremely dishonest and unfair it is to Sylphie. It is the absolute worst for Rudy to do this. It's like the author went out of their way to write the harem in in the worst way possible, at the worst possible time as well. Bro literally brings a new wife and betrays his current wife who was at home waiting pregnant with his child. Sylphie never signed up for this when she decided to marry him and while they "asked and technically got consent", it was very much a technical consent. She was clearly pressured into it and didn't actually want it, and was not in a normal situation to be able to give proper consent given her pregnant situation and how disagreeing could literally put her on the streets with the kid. It completely diminishes all the supposed development Rudy had as a character all throughout this season. I regret ever feeling like this guy was starting to become a good person, because the author clearly wanted to remind us how much of a piece of shit this guy is. |
EinTheVarianceJul 6, 9:04 AM
| Sylphi is the best wife, after Eris broke hes heart it was Sylphi who picked up the pieces and saved him they should have skipped rudeuses heartbreak cause this only made me dislike Eris (and like sylphi even more), i want awry1 to go off on eris when she returns, that she wont be forgiven fast and easily, if she is easily forgiven then the characters loose a lot of respect, she has to suffer before she is forgiven |
| I watched this again, and hated this series again because Paul died... but I liked it again because of Roxy. |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| Sylphie's clingy desire for rudy was always present, so it is not a surprise that she would accept him to have a second one. Was it scummy, much like paul? yes, it was, but expected. Paul's death was impactful, the presentation of him crushed with the debris was a good one and all the scenes of his loss with rudeus reflecting on it were palpable, at the end paul carries on his womanizing self with rudeus. They could have had a better relationship, but they still had something emotionally plentiful enough going on, in contrast with his mom which rudeus had paul traded for (that doesnt even remember them). What matters is living a plentiful life with less regrets, which rudeus so far is doing a damm good job at (really great life so far! haha) Season ended well, definitely good, though not as strong as the part 2 of s1 was when it ended |
INoLuvJul 16, 3:30 PM
gamermaniacow said: WTF was that ending? What a trainwreck. It ruined this whole series. I can think on multiple ways the author could have presented the same concept without being this bad. They presented Polygamy a few moments before using this card. They could have presented this concept way sooner, For example when Sylphie tells Rudeus that he can have children with a concubine. Or even better, when Paul cheated his mother. Easy. Roxy in my vision was a idealistic character. She even says she would fall in love for a man in a dungeon on s1. She could have said to Rudeus that she would only f*ck him if he married her. But nope. Loli Bitch right after his father died. What in the actual fuck was that. They ruined her character completely. On top of that, Rudeus just cheating while mourning his father. This is some ridiculous writing. Elinalise telling Rudeus to marry Roxy after they just f*cked lmao. And Rudeus ACTUALLY DOING THAT ROFL. What the hell? Bro don't have nothing in his mind. If Rudeus suddenly realized his father last words, telling about the two swords, it would have been way more impactful. Both characters would be likeable. And then, he told about Roxy on front of his sisters WTF. And Norn just start screaming WHAT THE HELL. Why she is the one doing this? What does this has to do with her? Only for Sylphie to agree a few seconds later LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. And why we still have the fat protagonist? It feels so irrelevant and obnoxious at this point. The last encounter with the God was super annoying. On top of all this, the slave episode was completely out of character. Rudeus didn't reacted at all. What would Ruijerd do to Rudeus a few episodes later if he knew what he did? Problem was not the slave concept, but the way they handled things. Some really bad writing. - But Sylphie new look with long hair was absolute fabulous. Almost saved that disastrous ending. Totally best girl (Sorry Roxy, they ruined you, and Sylphie was too gorgeous). I loved MT because the characters were so likeable, but they ruined them in just 2 episodes. I don't comment here, but this season finale made me do it. Makes sense that rudeus did it with roxy even after such a short time since paul died. Rudeus cared for paul and felt for him, but we know that he never really loved intensely paul (much less zenith, which was just a person that lived with him as he said once) as a father, more like admiration and appreciation with some love. Rudeus always was more detached regarding paul, though he has bittersweet feelings for him even after death. He cared more for roxy than paul tbh, so yes it makes sense why he did it with her at that time |
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