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Yesterday, 8:59 PM
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I like arguing in the internet, it's fun.
I'm not able to join internet culture wars for two reasons, though:

  1. Most of them are about things I have no contact with or don't care, such as Disney stuff and AAA games.
  2. Every stance and thing from one side never seems to be made "as a thing for people to like", but as something "to own the other side".

I commented in other threads of mine on how the "western-centrism" of such discussions leave no place for me to mention the Japanese stuff I consume, which technically offers a "third alternative", since it's never made "in opposition" to anything.

For instance, quite recently I discovered that westerners think of "sexualization of male characters for a female public" is a hypothetical, and not something that actually exists. Worse: I discovered that many of them think that sexualization of female characters is made to offend women (And not because people actually like it), therefore many of them think that their hypothetical sexualization of men SHOULD be something that offends men, otherwise it wouldn't be equivalent.

When looked through this angle, I don't really think I can add anything. Like, there's no way for me to talk about stuff such as yaoi, shoujo or otome games, which are examples of male sexualization for a female public that no guy is offended by. This whole thing is just two sides full of resentful people flinging feces at one another, there's no place for "love" here, and I just noticed that now. No side wants a solution, they just want to kill the other side.

Are there alternative ways to discuss stuff on the internet outside of culture wars?
thewiru7 hours ago
Yesterday, 9:09 PM
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none because the superpowers right now are fighting the west vs east, the west is mainly usa while the east is mainly china and russia

and we are all affected by the power struggle and culture wars of this superpowers
Yesterday, 10:40 PM
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Well if we are talking about internet cultures like you say in the OP then stay the fuck away from most of it.

Not even just culture war stuff but I am extending it to fandoms and their internal squabbling. It doesn't help that the primary fandom I interact with is probably the worst one ever. Even in my own sub sphere where we get along I do see odd bits of contempt once any outsider interacts. Yes the hellaverse fandom has sub communities that are vaguely factionalized by ships and thus, by drawing VoxVal and StaticDust art I am now aligned with a specific subgroup which so happens to be filled with some of the most fascinating basket cases I have born witness to myself and coming to the tragic realization I am the same as these weirdos and I must carry that burden forever.

Basically if what I said sounds completely brain-rotted and a humungous waste of time then do no, under any circumstances, leave the peanut gallery and wander into the shitshow itself which probably extends to all other types of internet drama I dunno the "woke" debate got old a long time ago and I just fuck with whatever I want to do.



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Yesterday, 11:07 PM
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"Are there alternative ways to discuss stuff on the internet outside of culture wars?"

lol what



Yesterday, 11:13 PM
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Reply to Gween_Gween
"Are there alternative ways to discuss stuff on the internet outside of culture wars?"

lol what
@Gween_Gween
I like discussing stuff with people on the internet, and would like to find places where I could find something new to discuss everyday.
Though preferably stuff that isn't culture war stuff.
Today, 12:23 AM
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You are participating in culture wars if you stop buying products you disagree with and encourage others to do the same.
But to really participate in it, you need to have a widespread influence, able to change actions of tens of thousands of people with your words.
One person's financial boycott does nothing, just like 1 guy's vote for a president does nothing.

And you should be able to answer it yourself if you feel it's a blessing you don't participate in culture wars.
Today, 3:40 AM
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To be honest I really don't care this bullshit Culture war woke weird ass stories on the Net especially like those in Twitter, they don't affect me in real life I'm interested in China action is seem he ready to war on other country that's is interesting story than some babies talk in Twitter.
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Today, 3:51 AM
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thewiru said:
Are there alternative ways to discuss stuff on the internet outside of culture wars?


I think based on your high level of curiosity, you might be a great longform essay writer.
Today, 3:54 AM
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I was drafted :(

thewiru said:
For instance, quite recently I discovered that westerners think of "sexualization of female characters for a female public" is a hypothetical, and not something that actually exists.

Lesbians and bisexuals exist. Also suggestive prompts for self insert and arousal wouldn't be unusual. You cant have sexual moments between characters without showing the character as having a sexuality.

thewiru said:
Are there alternative ways to discuss stuff on the internet outside of culture wars?

For people to go back to minding their own business and focusing more on just having discussions of the things they like. That used to be more normal to see.
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Today, 4:57 AM

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It's probably better for one's peace of mind.
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I'm surprised that you say it's still Western-centric, since anime has by and large entered the mainstream.
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I was drafted :(

thewiru said:
For instance, quite recently I discovered that westerners think of "sexualization of female characters for a female public" is a hypothetical, and not something that actually exists.

Lesbians and bisexuals exist. Also suggestive prompts for self insert and arousal wouldn't be unusual. You cant have sexual moments between characters without showing the character as having a sexuality.

thewiru said:
Are there alternative ways to discuss stuff on the internet outside of culture wars?

For people to go back to minding their own business and focusing more on just having discussions of the things they like. That used to be more normal to see.
traed said:
Lesbians and bisexuals exist. Also suggestive prompts for self insert and arousal wouldn't be unusual. You cant have sexual moments between characters without showing the character as having a sexuality.

Oh, that was a typo, I meant "sexualization of MALE characters for a female public"
7 hours ago

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I'm surprised that you say it's still Western-centric, since anime has by and large entered the mainstream.
@Kwanthemaster
Anime has not entered the mainstream.
SOME anime have entered the mainstream.

If what you're watching isn't one of those, you're still treated like a leper.
7 hours ago

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I've seen OP around enough to know this is bullshit btw lol. We literally discussed a culture war adjacent topic together recently, which he is referencing in the post.

What you perhaps want to say is you do not participate in them in a way that is conventional, like firmly in one side. Which is fine, just say that.
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traed said:
I was drafted :(

poor trejd you dont deserve that :((((
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@Gween_Gween
I like discussing stuff with people on the internet, and would like to find places where I could find something new to discuss everyday.
Though preferably stuff that isn't culture war stuff.
@thewiru Well then you are out of luck, anything that's not political is automatically politicized because not being political is political in and of itself.
That's kind of how the whole issue started, people calling entertainment prioritizing being entertaining a bad thing...
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Where would you join these "culture wars" you're so graciously avoiding to join?
Would you have to inlist at the internet-warrior-recruit center? xD

Enough already with the self-worship.

What you like is beeing involved. That's all, really.


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