Hate of Fanservice recently

>recently
There has always been a group of anime watchers who are triggered by sexuality. Either women or low test males or brainwashed feminist men.
You could make an argument that there's more and more of those people recently, and I would agree with you. Whenever I join any discord server, nobody is making sexual innuendo jokes anymore, and if you do it you will get pushback from the discord users. I believe modern youth are brainwashed at schools to think that sexualization of fictional characters is somehow hurting real women. It makes no sense, but imagine you're being taught that over and over while your brain is still developing. And you can't even criticize the narrative or you get in trouble.

I mostly see this in the english side of the internet, evidently americans have a distaste for females.

It is new. No one cared in the past except if there was scenes that just were way too misplaced and it took away from something from how overly distracting it is but no one bothered complaining publicly. We just entered into an age of complete inauthenticity and conservative puritans thinking they are revolutionary.

It is new. No one cared in the past except if there was scenes that just were way too misplaced and it took away from something from how overly distracting it is but no one bothered complaining publicly. We just entered into an age of complete inauthenticity and conservative puritans thinking they are revolutionary.

It's ironically not even conservatives or right-leaning people who complain about the fanservice nowadays. the people complaining are usually progressive types who themselves have become as puritan as the conservatives they hate. this can be seen on places like tiktok or twitter

@Yomans2012
No, conservatives (actually more accurate to label reactionaries) still are well at it and have the most impact. The financial attack on Pixiv was masterminded by an anti porn group that used to go by Morality in Media then rebranded multiple times, current form tries to pretend to be a child exploitation protection group so they might not be entirely conservatives now but most are. Then there also is an ordinance that conservative politicians in Tokyo put out that harmed the manga and anime industry forcing censorship. You also have anime outright banned like some conservative politicians in Australia banned a few light novels and anime series from the entire country. I'd say that is a bigger issue than people complaining on the internet.

Recently? This trend has been going on for at least five years. To the point where people are willing to consider guro violent shows wholesome just because of the lack of fanservice. Suffice it to recall the memetic case with Mieruko-chan, when people did not care about the horror element, while whining about the occasional rare ecchi.

@RobertBobert People were recently bitching about Dandadan alien probe scene and some people will dismiss an entire series if there is some type of fanservice

I have been engaging with the anime community as a part of it for like 9 years now. I don't think sexualization is something women are especially fine with when it is done excessively and with male characters being somehow the sole beneficients. But I don't think women all "despise" sexualization of women, in fact I've bonded with a few girls and enbies/demigirls over yuri I believe? As for me: I do conscientize about sexualization when I review something, and I do agree some sexualization of women and younger girls in media can end up hurting women and girls in real life — exclusively through acts from people that are of responsible age (as I've been told of one occasion where someone underage had been exposed to hentai, and that had messed up with their thought-process... I trust in the them of now to be able to act responsibly and in respect of the law and consent of people). Or exclude female audiences from the medium altogether. However, I also think sexualization of women can translate self-confidence, free speech absolutism, overcoming patriarchal boundaries... But well it's not like I'm always very worried about being in the groupthink of feminism and its various strands (some of which are very niche like xenofeminism and its accelerationism of alienation part?). And I believe animation or synthetic arts (animations 2D & 3D, drawings, literature) to be media with more freedom to touch on sexualization as a theme for there being no necessary actor that could be hurt, over shows that may have a point on oversexualization and/or early pornography exposition, or patriarchalism depictions, and end up being representations shooting themselves in the foot by possibly hurting girls and women, like French movie Cuties (2020). All in all, I think in your otaku life you will eventually form, join and move on from, groups of other otaku folks. Group think is something you need not get swayed by, and that goes for masses of people on social media AND extremist activists at conventions. There, some of the values like feminist thought, antifa sentiment, right-wing conservatism... may shape the members of the otaku group and all. Having been a part of several anime communities, I think of myself as an outlier and perhaps having the ability to formulate an articulated thought, maybe more balanced. I think fanservice is a reflection of its time, and sometimes a facility to sell merch and poorly-executed tropes, and sometimes possibly reinforce sexualization, rape culture, patriarchalism — or be a subversive force altogether, feminist, anti-censorship... I don't think we should gatekeep the anime community from people that oppose fanservice, nor do I believe we need to exclude fanservice fans, just that both groups need empathy and maturity and copium to interact together in a productive manner, or just refrain from interacting altogether.

Fanservice definitely has declined in the mainstream (especially in Western gaming).

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Women generally dislike ecchi. Men dislike yaoi.

I like to think that fans recognize that gooning is sinful

I mostly see this in the english side of the internet, evidently americans have a distaste for females.

I mostly see this in the english side of the internet, evidently americans have a distaste for females.

Live and let live. Fanservice isn't my thing but I don't go out of my way to shame people for liking it. Advocating against it is the kind of thing religious activists would do.

@fleurbleue
Most cases of censorship nowadays in the west have nothing to do with religion unless you count money as the object of worship with the appeal to blackrock and vanguard which pays companies for pushing their morals in media.

It's been like that for several years already. It's definitely not a new trend, albeit it's true that its intensity rose significantly during and after the Covid times. Mostly due to the huge influx of new anime enjoyers who weren't aware or didn't even care to learn about the basic tropes of the anime medium. Most of those newcomer fans were from the USA and still tend to be ignorant about not only the world of anime in general, but even about elements typical to Japanese culture appearing in anime. Not necessarily fanservice-like, if I may add.

Don't get me wrong, there were prudes or fanservice haters in the past too. But their activity was less obnoxious. Instead of ranting about a show, thrashing it and its fans, they simply didn't watch an anime they didn't like, sometimes only expressing their disappointment in a polite way (i.e. "those fanservice bits felt unnecessary"). You could rarely see massive seething mixed with virtue signaling, and even rarer than that were situations were people who were not fans of ecchi, hentai, or nudity in general, entered places where such shows or manga were discussed, only to spread unnecessary toxicity.

These days the situations seems to have gone 180 degrees. It's way more common to encounter angered mob complaining about ecchi moment in an ecchi anime, or "unfair depiction of women" in a harem ecchi show. Funny enough, it doesn't apply to the same situations, but with male characters in the center of attention.

@fleurbleue
Most cases of censorship nowadays in the west have nothing to do with religion unless you count money as the object of worship with the appeal to blackrock and vanguard which pays companies for pushing their morals in media.