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Sep 12, 9:27 AM
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This is starting to head into a climax. Touka and the party arrived in a dangerous zone of unknown but there's no doubt there are dangerous monsters there.

Now that I think about it, their world is way more dangerous than it looked. The involvement of so many characters made this episode feel a bit all over the place though imo.
Sep 12, 10:55 AM
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An entire episode with not a single rapey or sexual assault insinuated. I’m impressed. We’re back to the horrible CGI this week tho lmao so it’s a trade off.

The giant bugs I can understand because they’re massive and all those eyes.. I’m not gonna disparage the cgi there, but I still don’t get why regular walking shots of characters need to be CGI. It’s like this is a 2.75D anime. Tooka’s new horse, Slei’s design is also horrifying 😭 8 legs and those giant horns holy shit that is nightmare fuel.

The non 3D animation was also pretty bad too, like when Lis almost fell in the river it looked so weird lmao.

I did like seeing everyone travel together and Seras being bashful. She’s got a real sniffing fetish tho. Wouldn’t surprise me if she fell in the water on purpose so she could wear Tooka coat.

We have to have a reunion between Tooka and 2-C next week surely right? As much of an arrogant bastard Kirihara is, it’s no way he and the other students can hold off an entire army of monsters like that. Hopefully the fights next week look somewhat serviceable. And I need to see this bitch ass goddess Vysis get hers.
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Sep 12, 11:03 AM
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Did that horse just say 'f*ck you'?
Sep 12, 11:52 AM
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Seems like Paralyze is less effective than Parry.
Sep 12, 11:58 AM
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i can't..with the animation when Liz almost fell into the river...I expect lazy animation but this ep was horrendous
Sep 12, 12:07 PM
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i can't..with the animation when Liz almost fell into the river...I expect lazy animation but this ep was horrendous
@Gonta29 Bro wants his 3D CGI images back xD
Sep 12, 12:26 PM
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In the final episode, we will probably only see static images. 😂
Holy shit.. one of the worst animations ever.
Sep 12, 12:26 PM
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Almost at their destination but looks like a monster parade, Touka gonna beat them all? I'm not sure if Touka will meet the others this season. Maybe right by the end.
Sep 12, 12:35 PM
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woahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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Touka is not at least level 1798 with at least +5391 flat states for Attack, Defense, Agility, the other thing. Also at least 59301 mana BUT even with this back to basics stuff, managed to use 11320 of his mana. This is likely due to a mix of using higher level magic as well as not leveling up as much to reset mana.

We don't know their levels (though we can assume radically lower since only just started farming golden eyes) but that one guy that could mass burn the "stronger" golden eyes said his "unique skill" is [only] level four right now, this would imply that Touka's classmates are in-fact really strong even though Touka got HUGE headstart. Most of the "strong" kids can take out the "stronger" monsters, but appears it takes some effort to just do one even though do it quickly and cleanly.

Touka is worried about this, and I have mixed feelings about his feelings.
1. He took out a wave of monsters that was I would guess 10-20% of this intensity at his start
2. He has 2 strong swordsman, piggymaru (if truly needed), and Slei (cost 1/6th of his mana for top-buff though) and is radically stronger now.
3. Mana I would think SHOULDN'T be a problem as golden eyes are high XP so SHOULD level up at least once for each wave
4. His classmates will also be fighting (I'm worried about the not bad ones :c)

I wonder what will happen first, he'll connect with the dark elf, or classmates will catch up to him. Who will he see first? Those to kill, or those that were okay and could alliance.
4/5, this anime has no chance of going above 6/10, but every week I look forward to it more than my 8/10 anime that comes out around same time. Enjoyed them getting Slei and seeing how his future sub-targets are progressing (main target being the bitch)


As much as i wish it would stay that way, HIGHLY doubt knowing his classmates once they see Seras

Sep 12, 12:50 PM
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In the final episode, we will probably only see static images. 😂
Holy shit.. one of the worst animations ever.
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Good luck animate all this monsters in 2D.
Have fun.
Especially when you're not paid well.
Sep 12, 1:43 PM
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Mosuwain said:
Did that horse just say 'f*ck you'?

that's all I heard from the horse too lmao
Sep 12, 1:44 PM

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Man, I love these fucking weird designs, kind of want to check out the source material.
Sep 12, 2:06 PM
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That horse is fugly as hell.

Regarding the attack at the end, the solution seems obvious. Step back into the crevasse to limit the number of monsters that can reach them, paralyze a few to act as a wall, then berserk the rest as they approach so they fight each other. They'll kill each other before getting to Touka, letting him berserk more as the earlier ones die, avoiding him hitting his debuff cap.
Sep 12, 2:07 PM
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Touka is not at least level 1798 with at least +5391 flat states for Attack, Defense, Agility, the other thing. Also at least 59301 mana BUT even with this back to basics stuff, managed to use 11320 of his mana. This is likely due to a mix of using higher level magic as well as not leveling up as much to reset mana.

We don't know their levels (though we can assume radically lower since only just started farming golden eyes) but that one guy that could mass burn the "stronger" golden eyes said his "unique skill" is [only] level four right now, this would imply that Touka's classmates are in-fact really strong even though Touka got HUGE headstart. Most of the "strong" kids can take out the "stronger" monsters, but appears it takes some effort to just do one even though do it quickly and cleanly.

Touka is worried about this, and I have mixed feelings about his feelings.
1. He took out a wave of monsters that was I would guess 10-20% of this intensity at his start
2. He has 2 strong swordsman, piggymaru (if truly needed), and Slei (cost 1/6th of his mana for top-buff though) and is radically stronger now.
3. Mana I would think SHOULDN'T be a problem as golden eyes are high XP so SHOULD level up at least once for each wave
4. His classmates will also be fighting (I'm worried about the not bad ones :c)

I wonder what will happen first, he'll connect with the dark elf, or classmates will catch up to him. Who will he see first? Those to kill, or those that were okay and could alliance.
4/5, this anime has no chance of going above 6/10, but every week I look forward to it more than my 8/10 anime that comes out around same time. Enjoyed them getting Slei and seeing how his future sub-targets are progressing (main target being the bitch)


As much as i wish it would stay that way, HIGHLY doubt knowing his classmates once they see Seras
@LilyVarbik So do you think that the Goddess is purposefully keeping them at a low level? It would be an odd direction for the story to take, to have every none isekai person be guaranteed fodder -if the other heroes are already stronger than Eve & Seras despite their low levels then those 2 don't stand a chance once they're even a bit stronger- but its possible IG. Anyway heres some ideas I've thought of relating to that:

1) The Goddess keeps the heroes at the minimum level required for her purposes so that she can off them more easily once shes done with them.
2) She has purposely sewn conflict between the students so that they're preoccupied antagonising eachother.
3) The rank system is either a complete lie or a large exaggeration of the disparity between how strong students can be. She makes them believe the difference is large to encourage the formation of a steep social hierarchy.

Most of those predictions are based off the fact that shes not at all concerned with making sure the students have strong teamwork, which suggests to me that she doesn't care at all about them dying. If she wanted them to prosper, then she would encourage the students to work in formations where they can have eachothers backs and save any injured easily. But instead we've clearly seen that she gives preferential treatment. I think there will eventually be a twist where she gets the S ranks to kill the weaker students.

Alternatively, levelling up skills before increasing their player levels might make stat gains more efficient or something and this is all normal.

Anyone else thinks the complete absence of healing magic is odd, too? Maybe some of the students have healer skills and they're all weaklings because of it (like that one girl they emphasise).

Anyway shit episode. If the show's art was better then Eve would be 10x hotter even in the same design.
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Seems like Paralyze is less effective than Parry.
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Everything is less effective than Parry. Dude can parry literally anything, including common sense.
Sep 12, 2:43 PM
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The more we near the end, the less interesting this becomes.
Sep 12, 2:52 PM

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*egg hatches*
*horse instantly grows 10 times larger*
"Hey, did you also notice that maybe the horse grew larger? It kinda feels like it does."

Give me more of your wisdorm. xD
Sep 12, 4:29 PM
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phantomfandom said:
Seems like Paralyze is less effective than Parry.

hahaha, this make me the hay
Sep 12, 5:42 PM
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@LilyVarbik The entire leveling system plus power system is basically nonexistent. Touka was killing monsters in the Ruins of Disposal at level 1, and he claims the ones in the forest are weaker than them. It's just there because they thought it looked cool. Last time we saw the other students, the highest one was barely over 100? I don't think they are that much higher.
Sep 12, 5:45 PM
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I guess Piggymaru has a competition for being the mascot character with Skei.
Sep 12, 6:01 PM
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@LilyVarbik The entire leveling system plus power system is basically nonexistent. Touka was killing monsters in the Ruins of Disposal at level 1, and he claims the ones in the forest are weaker than them. It's just there because they thought it looked cool. Last time we saw the other students, the highest one was barely over 100? I don't think they are that much higher.
@Moppit
The level doesn't matter. What matters is the stats modifiers. If you're level 2000 and gain +3 in every stats each level it's the same as being level 100 and gaining +60 in every stats each level.

About the Ruins of Disposal, he mainly refers to the Soul Eater, the strongest monster he has faced so far.
Sep 12, 6:01 PM
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An entire episode with not a single rapey or sexual assault insinuated. I’m impressed. We’re back to the horrible CGI this week tho lmao so it’s a trade off.

The giant bugs I can understand because they’re massive and all those eyes.. I’m not gonna disparage the cgi there, but I still don’t get why regular walking shots of characters need to be CGI. It’s like this is a 2.75D anime. Tooka’s new horse, Slei’s design is also horrifying 😭 8 legs and those giant horns holy shit that is nightmare fuel.

The non 3D animation was also pretty bad too, like when Lis almost fell in the river it looked so weird lmao.

I did like seeing everyone travel together and Seras being bashful. She’s got a real sniffing fetish tho. Wouldn’t surprise me if she fell in the water on purpose so she could wear Tooka coat.

We have to have a reunion between Tooka and 2-C next week surely right? As much of an arrogant bastard Kirihara is, it’s no way he and the other students can hold off an entire army of monsters like that. Hopefully the fights next week look somewhat serviceable. And I need to see this bitch ass goddess Vysis get hers.
@Marinate1016 Man, I wonder if that horse is a Nightmare. As it's monster class. At least it can hide it's true form. Interesting that he chose to name it after Odin's horse from Norse Mythology.
Sep 12, 6:16 PM

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That part where Lis slipped made me die of laughter 😂.



The CGI came back in unnecessary scenes, but at this point, it doesn't really matter. Seras isn't even trying to hide her intentions - she's absolutely set on having a half-elf, half-human hybrid. A horse in an egg? That's straight out of *Pokémon*. And Touka, being a man of culture, picked a great name for the horse.

I wonder how strong Touka's former companions are. It seems like Touka outclasses them by a wide margin, but seeing how easily Kirihara dealt with those monsters, ones that even Eve admitted she couldn't handle, made me question if they're really that weak. Or maybe it's because of the unique ability Kirihara has.

It's suspicious how that monster appeared out of nowhere. It's almost like someone deliberately sent it with a hidden agenda. Maybe they're testing Touka, and I wouldn't be surprised if the witch is behind this orchestration.
Sep 12, 6:21 PM

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damn horse got priorities straight


Sep 12, 6:24 PM

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Another good episdoe, but was that two episodes in one? It had two "Titles".

Also what in the world is happening all of a sudden? A stampede of Monsters or an attack on the heroes by the dark lord person? Very strange.

Not asking for spoilers, just thinking out loud.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Sep 12, 6:26 PM

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I guess Piggymaru has a competition for being the mascot character with Skei.
@Moppit I completely forgot about the egg 😅 and you might be right, but I thought the name was "Slei"?
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Sep 12, 6:31 PM

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Episode title name is a scam, "meeting" - reality: meeting spark of magic so far-off with his gaze
Sep 12, 6:34 PM
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Mais um episodio do anime do CGI. Meio meh, só to assistindo ainda pq quero ver ele batendo forte na deusa
Sep 12, 6:46 PM
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The episodes always seem so short. The western BGM in the beginning was pretty distracting but once the ominous music started it was alright.

Curious if the stealth monster was a wild one, or familiar/minion to a person. Also- if he paralyzed it, it shouldn't have been able to move. If it was dead, he wouldn't have been able to paralyze it. Even if those weren't mutually exclusive in this case- the corpse shouldn't have been able to move. xD
Sep 12, 6:48 PM
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Seras is the sexiest elf I have ever seen.
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Also Japanese love to use that western mythology but recently they seem obsessed with Scandinavian mythology, that's insteresting.
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That part where Lis slipped made me die of laughter 😂.



The CGI came back in unnecessary scenes, but at this point, it doesn't really matter. Seras isn't even trying to hide her intentions - she's absolutely set on having a half-elf, half-human hybrid. A horse in an egg? That's straight out of *Pokémon*. And Touka, being a man of culture, picked a great name for the horse.

I wonder how strong Touka's former companions are. It seems like Touka outclasses them by a wide margin, but seeing how easily Kirihara dealt with those monsters, ones that even Eve admitted she couldn't handle, made me question if they're really that weak. Or maybe it's because of the unique ability Kirihara has.

It's suspicious how that monster appeared out of nowhere. It's almost like someone deliberately sent it with a hidden agenda. Maybe they're testing Touka, and I wouldn't be surprised if the witch is behind this orchestration.
@Narizor Remember Well they are S and A rank and I think the highest lvl they had was 200 while Mimori is E rank lvl 1700. Maybe a S rank vl 10 is stronger then an E rank lvl 100. But its hard to compare because Mimori has such op abilitys.
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I think his mask will play vital role too, maybe he wants to catch goddess off guard when she let her guard down as she could block his abilities like early in the series, well, even strongest human could move in paralyze state, goddess probably way stronger than him.
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@Moppit
The level doesn't matter. What matters is the stats modifiers. If you're level 2000 and gain +3 in every stats each level it's the same as being level 100 and gaining +60 in every stats each level.

About the Ruins of Disposal, he mainly refers to the Soul Eater, the strongest monster he has faced so far.

I still feel that the entire leveling thing is more cosmetic than a actually thing that taken in account for the series. I know it's there to make it more otherworldly, but in a lot I read it ends up basically forgotten in the first few chapters and brought back up to keep saying there not on Earth. That way this feels.
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@Moppit I completely forgot about the egg 😅 and you might be right, but I thought the name was "Slei"?

I completely forgot what the pony horse thing name was. I just know it starts with S.
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@Moppit
The level doesn't matter. What matters is the stats modifiers. If you're level 2000 and gain +3 in every stats each level it's the same as being level 100 and gaining +60 in every stats each level.

About the Ruins of Disposal, he mainly refers to the Soul Eater, the strongest monster he has faced so far.

I still feel that the entire leveling thing is more cosmetic than a actually thing that taken in account for the series. I know it's there to make it more otherworldly, but in a lot I read it ends up basically forgotten in the first few chapters and brought back up to keep saying there not on Earth. That way this feels.
@Moppit totally, he has like sht tone of defense in stats but still felt pain in sparring with Seras
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I love that the new pony character just shouts "Fuck youuuu" as it's noise. Absolutely classy.

Lis is so cute. We got spoiled with the amount of cute twin tail girls this season. Lynne, Angelica, and Lis. UNF.

4.5/5, I'm guessing the classmates are gonna come in clutch and somehow meet/save tooka's ass/party.


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@phantomfandom

Everything is less effective than Parry. Dude can parry literally anything, including common sense.

couldn't parry mental retardation apparently, so there's a weakness.
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Another good episdoe, but was that two episodes in one? It had two "Titles".

Also what in the world is happening all of a sudden? A stampede of Monsters or an attack on the heroes by the dark lord person? Very strange.

Not asking for spoilers, just thinking out loud.

Whatever that monster they kill, had a death cry. It alerted every other monster in the area. So they all strom the area Touka was in.
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Decent episode with Touka and his group making headway to the Witch of Taboo. I wouldn't be surprised if the witch herself set up this trap to test them to ensure that they are worthy of meeting with her. Side note, Seras continues looking fine and at this point I think she wants to have Touka's baby haha.
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Oh great, another cliffhanger. Not to mention I was hoping for a meetup with the other kids but oh well. Not bad, but not great either. The CGI is definitely noticeable and not very good action scenes. Idk how to feel about this show.
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@Moppit I completely forgot about the egg 😅 and you might be right, but I thought the name was "Slei"?

I completely forgot what the pony horse thing name was. I just know it starts with S.
@Moppit Slei, short for Sleipnir, Odin's horse.
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@Moppit
The level doesn't matter. What matters is the stats modifiers. If you're level 2000 and gain +3 in every stats each level it's the same as being level 100 and gaining +60 in every stats each level.

About the Ruins of Disposal, he mainly refers to the Soul Eater, the strongest monster he has faced so far.

I still feel that the entire leveling thing is more cosmetic than a actually thing that taken in account for the series. I know it's there to make it more otherworldly, but in a lot I read it ends up basically forgotten in the first few chapters and brought back up to keep saying there not on Earth. That way this feels.
@Moppit

In one of the earlier episode threads I compared Touka's stats vs the other heroes, and he was way, WAY stronger than they are. Sure, they might end up far stronger if they reached his level, but at the speed they can kill monsters they'll never catch up to him.

But yeah, the show seems to completely ignore the stats when it comes to actual power. Based on his stats, Touka should have superhuman levels of strength, speed, and durability in addition to his high mana and spells, but he doesn't. Similarly, the other heroes have abilities far stronger than their stats would suggest.

The stats just don't seem to mean anything, except when the author wants them to. Internal consistency is ignored.
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@amf85 I know consistency doesn't mean anything unless the plot demands it to. There's no point of tracking everyone level and then show a level 1500 having the same struggles for the most part a level 100 does. This isn't the only anime that does this, so I'm not surprised. I just think it's a little silly.
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ejleon said:
Another good episdoe, but was that two episodes in one? It had two "Titles".

Also what in the world is happening all of a sudden? A stampede of Monsters or an attack on the heroes by the dark lord person? Very strange.

Not asking for spoilers, just thinking out loud.

Whatever that monster they kill, had a death cry. It alerted every other monster in the area. So they all strom the area Touka was in.
@Moppit Oh, I see, so the monster they killed had a rallying cry for all masters. Kinda like if you kill one ant, the other ants come running to where that ant was? That is interesting.
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@Moppit Oh, I see, so the monster they killed had a rallying cry for all masters. Kinda like if you kill one ant, the other ants come running to where that ant was? That is interesting.
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Yeah it's like the Monkey in So I'm a Spider so What? but much worse.
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@ejleon
Yeah it's like the Monkey in So I'm a Spider so What? but much worse.
@groudonvert Hm... been so long since I have seen that, I don't remember, I should watch that one again, I remember wanting a second season.
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Touka's party venturing the Land of the Golden-Eyed Monsters, too bad we got the jarring 3DCG animation back again as a trade-off, though after the Ruins of Disposal, Touka doesn't find the monsters all that challenging and a threat anymore.

Lisbeth is still the one most in danger as her and Eve joins Touka and Seras in their conquest, though Eve's talk about offspring sure caught Seras off guard to slip into the river, and it wouldn't be wrong to assume the thought that both her and Touka have feelings for each other. The important thing is dealing with the unkempt monsters and letting Piggymaru consume the leftover carcasses, while the beastwoman and humans deal with a hatched equine who has hatched being a rather big-sized horse who can absorb as much mana as Touka would feed it, evolving into the divine beast Slepnir when it needs to be.

The humans on the other hand, they're just the same indifferent and fearful egomaniacs that they are, still trying to survive in the same land where Touka and his party are also located. The human-faced beast is one of the most fearsome monsters, yet is a blip to Touka the same manner into becoming a ray of hope for everyone believing in him, and at the very least, he wouldn't betray their loyalty towards him for a life that is problem-free from issues like war.

If there's one thing the Land of Monsters is known for, the human-faced beast brings a forest stampede no matter where it is after it's been slain to death, and it's targeting Touka and the party. How about an army of monsters for Touka to fend against?
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