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Jul 20, 7:51 AM
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Now that over 8 months have passed since the final episode aired, I am interested to see how people perceive the ending. Personally, I think it is great and I also believe that a lot of the criticism comes from people who either don't want to look further into it (like for example the subtext of Eren and Armins last dialogue) or from literal edgelords. However I'm not trying to say that everyone other than me is wrong, obviously you are free to think whatever you want about it and dislike it, but you really do see a LOT of garbage thrown at AoT in the Internet.
I want to hear your opinions, maybe I can clear some things up about it.
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Jul 20, 7:58 AM
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No matter how much I love AOT, the ending could be better. No, I don't mean to say that it should change anything but just how it ended could be executed better.
Jul 20, 8:00 AM
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look at the end of the day a messed up weird love story made a 2000 year history of blood violence and oppression for everyone and another one of a similar love story ended so it's hard to focus on anything else when the core is so ridiculous plus it's hinted titans come back unto the fold so it was all for nothing
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look at the end of the day a messed up weird love story made a 2000 year history of blood violence and oppression for everyone and another one of a similar love story ended so it's hard to focus on anything else when the core is so ridiculous plus it's hinted titans come back unto the fold so it was all for nothing
Jul 20, 8:02 AM
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Could have been better, but it was satisfying.
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Jul 20, 8:33 AM
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Infinitespeed786 said:
look at the end of the day a messed up weird love story made a 2000 year history of blood violence and oppression for everyone and another one of a similar love story ended so it's hard to focus on anything else when the core is so ridiculous plus it's hinted titans come back unto the fold so it was all for nothing

The entire point of implying titans can return is to show that eren wasn’t able to fix anything in the long term but he was able to at least make a peaceful world for the rest of his freinds lifetime
Jul 20, 8:34 AM
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DeepfryJimmy1 said:
Infinitespeed786 said:
look at the end of the day a messed up weird love story made a 2000 year history of blood violence and oppression for everyone and another one of a similar love story ended so it's hard to focus on anything else when the core is so ridiculous plus it's hinted titans come back unto the fold so it was all for nothing

The entire point of implying titans can return is to show that eren wasn’t able to fix anything in the long term but he was able to at least make a peaceful world for the rest of his freinds lifetime

Eren couldn't do shit at all at all and it's because of ymir honestly if someone smart was given full control of the founder things would have been a lot different
Jul 20, 8:36 AM
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Looking from a quality and thematic view of the story. I think the ending is basically perfect in terms of where the story should have gone and the way AOT should have ended. The journey felt right together with it's conclusion.
Now from a personal perspective, I have issues with it's ending but nothing major enough to ruin the story (who should have died and who shouldn't have).
Jul 20, 8:37 AM
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I hate the direction it chose for Eren at the very end…
He kinda just victimized himself after trying to commit genocide, then they had Armin accept him immediately after … making it worse.

The whole thing with Ymir seemed forced too. She already knew about the moment with Mikasa, so why does she all of sudden change her mind about destroying everything once she sees it in real time?

And the big plot convenience of just removing Titans? Trying to justify the route Eren took? I was not impressed in the slightest.

And the action! None of it seemed to be that well thought out compared to the start of the season. There was a whole bunch of chaotic stuff happening, with cool animation mind you, but nothing convincing to latch onto that made it feel real.

And all the delays in getting to the ending … just the way they marketed and released this pissed me off. I really wasn’t getting off to a good start watching the finale.

So many missed opportunities for more interesting decisions as well. The route he chose for the scouts/main characters seems overly “good,” and it feels forced as a result. Like Annie happening upon the scouts and teaming up.

I was just so disappointed … and also uninterested after a certain point honestly.
Jul 20, 9:14 AM
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As someone who did not like the manga ending when it came out , the anime ending was far better to me but not perfect.
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Well Eren was kind of made into a plot device for Ymir's catharsis after he made a connection to the Path. The series is named The Attack Titan, but only because of the heavy burden of the one who becomes that, not how the user can overcome through what is in a way as strong and immovable as Nature itself.

This sort of submission kinda makes Eren feel powerless ironically. At least he stopped the war and gave his friends "freedom", but he never quite achieved the latter himself. Love and power binded him in different ways. And here's where the writer struggled a bit to bring both themes and narrative together to satisfy the audience. Adding to the problems is Mikasa's half baked character, who felt more like just his henchwoman, with the strong supporting role being stolen by Armin. Being an Ackermann didn't really matter.

So Mikasa is almost just there for Ymir to get an epiphany, while Eren is a mere catalyst to acquire that ending. This sort of endgame is a tonal whiplash to the earlier events where Eren himself was the biggest focus - his morality, his goals, etc. It's as if he just played his part in the stage and stepped down; the end goal is all that matters not the path taken.

Ultimately, you feel was his way the only solution to the problem? Could he have done any better? Was he doomed the moment he became the Attack Titan? Is he a hero who actually ended the suffering of billions with the best means he had while preventing anyone in the future to bear the burden of this Titan? Are these actually relevant questions?
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Jul 20, 9:21 AM
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The ending was so good and fit Attack On Titan/Shingeki No Kyojin almost perfectly, but it isn’t perfect. Example: I can’t explain the big founding worm, and Ymir was pretty much a plot device. Like, why was she so attached to the king? We were never explained that. But Mikasa letting Eren go after years of being with him but still loving him and Armin crying when he saw Eren’s head broke my heart. The characters that died also showed up in front of their best friends as well. The final 12 chapters of AoT were a great extra ending, showing that no matter what you do, war always happens. Now this is controversial, but I think it's Jean and Mikasa together, and even if it’s not, Mikasa deserves to move on. But I’m not saying she should just forget about Eren; she still loves him to death and has never forgotten about him. And that’s the end of the story. Wait, no, never mind, Beren is still going to come out. See you all when it arrives! For real thought this has been a great journey and Attack On Titan has changed the whole Anime genre forever and was amazing to watch. Thank you, Hajime Isayama
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Infinitespeed786 said:
look at the end of the day a messed up weird love story made a 2000 year history of blood violence and oppression for everyone and another one of a similar love story ended so it's hard to focus on anything else when the core is so ridiculous plus it's hinted titans come back unto the fold so it was all for nothing

It was all for nothing? Though I do don’t like them showing someone else walking into a tree that looks like the same one that started the Titan era, though the rumbling on the other hand, even if Eren did the full 100% rumbling, Paradis would still fall since after the time skip, thee were sky scrappers meaning this would have taken hundreds of years after the rumbling, maybe even a thousand. So Paradis would still have been destroyed by itself. But all Eren really wanted to do was to protect his friends, or give them freedom till they die.
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It was just alright for me. I could easily name better endings.
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ghier said:
I hate the direction it chose for Eren at the very end…
He kinda just victimized himself after trying to commit genocide, then they had Armin accept him immediately after … making it worse.

The whole thing with Ymir seemed forced too. She already knew about the moment with Mikasa, so why does she all of sudden change her mind about destroying everything once she sees it in real time?

And the big plot convenience of just removing Titans? Trying to justify the route Eren took? I was not impressed in the slightest.

And the action! None of it seemed to be that well thought out compared to the start of the season. There was a whole bunch of chaotic stuff happening, with cool animation mind you, but nothing convincing to latch onto that made it feel real.

And all the delays in getting to the ending … just the way they marketed and released this pissed me off. I really wasn’t getting off to a good start watching the finale.

So many missed opportunities for more interesting decisions as well. The route he chose for the scouts/main characters seems overly “good,” and it feels forced as a result. Like Annie happening upon the scouts and teaming up.

I was just so disappointed … and also uninterested after a certain point honestly.

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Jul 20, 9:32 AM
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No matter what anyone says, the fact that "Ymir" was following King's decision for 2000 years just because she is in love with him is just lazy writing. Plus the fact that Eren blamed destiny for his own doings was also very confusing, I mean whatever destiny is or whatever writer is trying to say there, people need to take responsibility for their actions, just calling himself "Slave of Destiny", doesn't make rumbling or genocide someone else's doing.

That being said, AOT is my favorite anime, I don't know if from the story point of view, a better series is even possible.
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Buny0058 said:
It was just alright for me. I could easily name better endings.

Like what anime endings?
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Rainclay said:
Buny0058 said:
It was just alright for me. I could easily name better endings.

Like what anime endings?

Well, In terms of endings, Steins Gate and Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood has better ending, overall writing is a different matter though.
Jul 20, 9:43 AM
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Full Metal Alchemist BrotherHood yeah I can get that. I haven’t watched Steins Gate though so I don’t know.
Jul 20, 9:58 AM
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The ending is absolutely awful for it completely retconned the main themes of the story.

For starters, we've been told throughout the whole series that only one side would be able to survive via completely wiping out the other; in fact that's what we've seen with the nuking of Paradis, but the way this was executed was in the worst possible manner by: (1) Completely destroying Eren's character, (2) Wasting the potential of Ymir's Character and (3) with a huge plot armor to the Alliance.

1- Completely Destroying Eren's Character: Since Eren is the main character, It would be obvious to assume that, by accompaining his journey in the first hand, we should empathize with him. We see him losing his family and friends to multiple wars, we see him getting to the basement and finding out the truth about the world, we see his worldview and reaction toward the turn of events change as his character progresses. But the best thing there was in the pre-139 Eren is that, despite all this, as we have seen in chapter 130 and 131 of the manga (I don't remember the Episodes in the anime), when Mikasa and Armin admit to themselves that *Eren was always like that*, which means that despite all the troubles and hardships his been through he was able to maintain himself true to his true self, true to the principles and the goals he previously established to himself; which is killing all his enemies (then the titans, the marleyans after and in the end the rest of the world) and his incessant drive towards freedom. To me, this always meant the true meaning why Eren inherited the Attack Titan, the Titan who always refused the orders of the royal family and always pushed towards freedom, and Eren, by being born of the seed of the Attack Titan's Shifter, was therefore the living encarnation of this will. But what does isayama do in the end? "Eren was only acting! He did it all for his friends! including killing his own mother to save Bertholdt! he was a slave to freedom all along!". Even though we've been presented with amazing plot twists by Isayama, there absolutely hasn't been a worst one than this in the history of fiction. And don't say that "That's how you wanted the story to end, not as how it has to be", that's complete bullshit. The ending simply betrays Eren's character by creating a crybaby and contradictory twisted version of himself with the narrative guise of "I was confused! I couldn't differ between past, present and future!". Don't make me laugh, that's just bad writing and It took a lot of effort to ruin such a complex and wonderful character such as Eren. This is the main reason why this ending is absolute garbage.

2- Wasting the Potential of Ymir's Character: When Ymir's Backstory was finally presented, it was great. Her personality only orbited around the fact that she was a faithful slave to King Fritz, but the her very act of compassion by freeing the pigs was the event that almost caused her death, but instead gave her godly-like powers. We see here, though latent and rather small, that Ymir also has a drive towards freedom, that probably has been manifested in the Attack Titan's will to always disobey the royals. Despite this, she remains a slave to King Fritz during her lifetime and beyond, a cycle of slavery that could only have been broken by Eren in chapter 122 of the manga. But in the ending we see this be completely rectonned. Attack on Titan, which by no means was a damned romance story, suddenly adds that YMIR ACTUALLY LOVED KING FRITZ AND WAS WAITING FOR MIKASA (Not Eren, lol), NOT EVEN A FULL-BLOODED ELDIAN, TO KILL THE GUY WHO WENT TO THE PATHS TO SAVE HER IN ORDER FOR HER TO GET RID OF FRITZ AND END THE POWER OF THE TITANS. Lmao, that's absolutely ridiculous. It came out of nothing, It looks like it was an improvised solution that Isayama came to when he didn't have enough time to finish the story. Mikasa's love for eren was - being generous here - a side and minor theme of the story and suddenly making it the main thread in order to solve some rather cosmological matter is rather dumb and confusing imo.

3- Huge plot armor to the Alliance: This topic here quite explains itself. Literally *none* of the main Alliance members died, only Magath and Hange. They literally fought a god-like being with full access to the manipulation of the laws of time and biology and won almost without effort. The whole fight was mid compared to previous Seasons and WTF was that with Grisha, Kruger and Xaver suddenly helping them even though they were under Ymir's Control? In a plotline where Eren wouldn't want to deliberately lose to his friends (which links, returning to point 1, to the complete distortion of Eren's motives) it would literally be impossible for the alliance to win, hence the plot armor.

Attack on Titan used to be a wonderful story, but the ending was way too terrible to still render It such status. It betrayed the main themes and characters, did not make sense within the same frame of the universe the story is settled and wrapped all of it with bad writing. I gave it the 1/10 grade because there wasn't the 0/10 one.
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No matter what anyone says, the fact that "Ymir" was following King's decision for 2000 years just because she is in love with him is just lazy writing. Plus the fact that Eren blamed destiny for his own doings was also very confusing, I mean whatever destiny is or whatever writer is trying to say there, people need to take responsibility for their actions, just calling himself "Slave of Destiny", doesn't make rumbling or genocide someone else's doing.

That being said, AOT is my favorite anime, I don't know if from the story point of view, a better series is even possible.

Blaming destiny? Do people don't read/listen to dialogues anymore. He literally admits that he wanted to wipe out everything.
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vishnu_pr said:
Ruthless_Lord said:
No matter what anyone says, the fact that "Ymir" was following King's decision for 2000 years just because she is in love with him is just lazy writing. Plus the fact that Eren blamed destiny for his own doings was also very confusing, I mean whatever destiny is or whatever writer is trying to say there, people need to take responsibility for their actions, just calling himself "Slave of Destiny", doesn't make rumbling or genocide someone else's doing.

That being said, AOT is my favorite anime, I don't know if from the story point of view, a better series is even possible.

Blaming destiny? Do people don't read/listen to dialogues anymore. He literally admits that he wanted to wipe out everything.

Yes, he admits that and he blames that "want" to destiny. I don't read dialogues, but I am very sure that I listen very carefully, especially the ones that are my favorite.
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vishnu_pr said:

Blaming destiny? Do people don't read/listen to dialogues anymore. He literally admits that he wanted to wipe out everything.

Yes, he admits that and he blames that "want" to destiny. I don't read dialogues, but I am very sure that I listen very carefully, especially the ones that are my favorite.

Him saying that he's a "slave to freedom" doesn't mean he's deflecting responsibility but more so that despite knowing that what he's doing is wrong can't change his inherent nature and desire for freedom, hence the line "a garden variety idiot who got his hands on power". He's completely owning up to the fact that the whole thing has happened because of his will(which he also says back in Ep 28 of the final season)
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vishnu_pr said:
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Yes, he admits that and he blames that "want" to destiny. I don't read dialogues, but I am very sure that I listen very carefully, especially the ones that are my favorite.

Him saying that he's a "slave to freedom" doesn't mean he's deflecting responsibility but more so that despite knowing that what he's doing is wrong can't change his inherent nature and desire for freedom, hence the line "a garden variety idiot who got his hands on power". He's completely owning up to the fact that the whole thing has happened because of his will(which he also says back in Ep 28 of the final season)

I don't know what you are saying. He said that no matter how many times he tried to change future, he couldn't that's why In the end he just did what he did, even killing his own mother, just saying himself stupid doesn't excuse anything. And then there is also time loop, which I don't like, very confusing.
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exactly he never thought a head his idiotic actions are the cause of his suffering
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The ending is, I couldn't care less. Took too long to make the entire series so I got bored. The final season was never final season when there part 2 and what not. It's over and I'm glad it is.
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vishnu_pr said:

Him saying that he's a "slave to freedom" doesn't mean he's deflecting responsibility but more so that despite knowing that what he's doing is wrong can't change his inherent nature and desire for freedom, hence the line "a garden variety idiot who got his hands on power". He's completely owning up to the fact that the whole thing has happened because of his will(which he also says back in Ep 28 of the final season)

I don't know what you are saying. He said that no matter how many times he tried to change future, he couldn't that's why In the end he just did what he did, even killing his own mother, just saying himself stupid doesn't excuse anything. And then there is also time loop, which I don't like, very confusing.

Him not being able to change the future just means he couldn't alter his actions that will lead to said future. Remember the scene where he gives up on saving the kid to try to change the future that he'd seen but saves him anyway bcoz he can't bring himself to abandon the kid(hence couldn't change the future of his memories).Just think of it this way, his inability to change his nature(desire for freedom )is the cause the future doesn't change,not some external factor like determinism or destiny, and regarding the time travel stuff, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, even if he didn't see the future, he would have made the exact same decisions that led to where we were.
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vishnu_pr said:
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I don't know what you are saying. He said that no matter how many times he tried to change future, he couldn't that's why In the end he just did what he did, even killing his own mother, just saying himself stupid doesn't excuse anything. And then there is also time loop, which I don't like, very confusing.

Him not being able to change the future just means he couldn't alter his actions that will lead to said future. Remember the scene where he gives up on saving the kid to try to change the future that he'd seen but saves him anyway bcoz he can't bring himself to abandon the kid(hence couldn't change the future of his memories).Just think of it this way, his inability to change his nature(desire for freedom )is the cause the future doesn't change,not some external factor like determinism or destiny, and regarding the time travel stuff, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, even if he didn't see the future, he would have made the exact same decisions that led to where we were.

What you are saying is true, but "Destiny" was important part of the ending and a stupid one.
The conversation he had with Armin was during the genocide, and even while doing that he was crying in front of armin that he did it because he is a idiot. I mean if you don't want to, then don't do it. If you are committing genocide, then why are you crying, It's just stupidity to revive the character. I don't know what else it can be.
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vishnu_pr said:

Him not being able to change the future just means he couldn't alter his actions that will lead to said future. Remember the scene where he gives up on saving the kid to try to change the future that he'd seen but saves him anyway bcoz he can't bring himself to abandon the kid(hence couldn't change the future of his memories).Just think of it this way, his inability to change his nature(desire for freedom )is the cause the future doesn't change,not some external factor like determinism or destiny, and regarding the time travel stuff, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, even if he didn't see the future, he would have made the exact same decisions that led to where we were.

What you are saying is true, but "Destiny" was important part of the ending and a stupid one.
The conversation he had with Armin was during the genocide, and even while doing that he was crying in front of armin that he did it because he is a idiot. I mean if you don't want to, then don't do it. If you are committing genocide, then why are you crying, It's just stupidity to revive the character. I don't know what else it can be.

See, that contradiction that you mentioned is kinda the point, he regrets committing genocide but also feels that this was the only thing he could have done. He has come to terms with the flaw in his own character(as evident in the Part 1 of the Final Chapter when he's walking through the market in Marley and contemplating what his mother would think and even admits that Freida was right about eldians dying would solve the titan problem but immediately is physically repulsed by that thought). The crying and calling himself an idiot are not meant as an excuse or deflection of responsibility as he knows he is responsible for all his actions and deserves to die for it but is still resolved to see it through. Anyway it was nice talking to you, have a good one.
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Him not being able to change the future just means he couldn't alter his actions that will lead to said future. Remember the scene where he gives up on saving the kid to try to change the future that he'd seen but saves him anyway bcoz he can't bring himself to abandon the kid(hence couldn't change the future of his memories).Just think of it this way, his inability to change his nature(desire for freedom )is the cause the future doesn't change,not some external factor like determinism or destiny, and regarding the time travel stuff, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, even if he didn't see the future, he would have made the exact same decisions that led to where we were.

What you are saying is true, but "Destiny" was important part of the ending and a stupid one.
The conversation he had with Armin was during the genocide, and even while doing that he was crying in front of armin that he did it because he is a idiot. I mean if you don't want to, then don't do it. If you are committing genocide, then why are you crying, It's just stupidity to revive the character. I don't know what else it can be.

See, that contradiction that you mentioned is kinda the point, he regrets committing genocide but also feels that this was the only thing he could have done. He has come to terms with the flaw in his own character(as evident in the Part 1 of the Final Chapter when he's walking through the market in Marley and contemplating what his mother would think and even admits that Freida was right about eldians dying would solve the titan problem but immediately is physically repulsed by that thought). The crying and calling himself an idiot are not meant as an excuse or deflection of responsibility as he knows he is responsible for all his actions and deserves to die for it but is still resolved to see it through. Anyway it was nice talking to you, have a good one.
@vishnu_pr I see you have a very profound understanding of aot and Erens character, I agree with everything you've mentioned and want to expand on it a little bit.
The tragedy of Erens character is the fact that he is a slave of his freedom (as he said himself) but what does that really mean?
Basically it means that he is a slave to his innate nature to long for freedom. There is no reasonable explanation on why he is so extremely obsessed with achieving his idea of freedom (which is a free and uninhabited world outside of the walls) and goes so far for it, it's just who he is, like he said so often, he was born that way. That's why when Armins asks him one last time why he did all of this in their final dialogue, Erens answer is that he doesn't know, which means exactly what I just explained. (Obviously there are a bunch of justifications for his actions but at this point of the conversation, they were already past that)
When Eren kissed Historias hand and saw his memories of the future he was appalled by what he will do in the future, but there is a reason why it even came to that in the first place ... and that's because Eren himself WANTS it that way. He knows that it is terrible but he cannot change it since he is also the one who made it come to that.
Regarding his sacrifce in the end, it's basically a combining of all his different goals (seeing a "free" world + having his friends become heroes who save the world + reducing the population outside of the walls to the same level as Eldia, so that there is no one sided destruction war against Eldia in his friends lifespan + getting rid of the titan curse by being killed by Mikasa and therefore giving his friends a long and peaceful life)
Remember when Eren said he was going to kill every last titan on earth in ep1 ? Well he really achieved his goal, even if it's under other circumstances, he did it.
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I think that it was the best possible ending
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Ppl who are saying that ending is bad, those are the ones who are wtahcing only anime that have happy endings, so If you dont understand the story, dont vote
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I think it could’ve been better. I mean I prefer it over what the manga did for the ending, but it definitely could’ve been better
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It was just alright for me. I could easily name better endings.

Like what anime endings?
@Rainclay Easily Code geass, Steins gate, Mob psycho, The 2000's higurashi anime, Plastic memories was all about the ending and obviously Death note.
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Buny0058 said:
@Rainclay Easily code geass, Steins gate, Mob psycho, The 2000's higurashi anime, Plastic memories was all about the ending, obviously Death note.

Is it bad that I haven’t watched death note yet😭
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It was just alright for me. I could easily name better endings.

Like what anime endings?

Well, In terms of endings, Steins Gate and Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood has better ending, overall writing is a different matter though.
@Ruthless_Lord Yup sure thing. Have you seen Code geas and Plastic memories? They have fantastic endings.
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I’ve been spoiled for code geass and I don’t know what plastic memories is.
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@Rainclay Easily code geass, Steins gate, Mob psycho, The 2000's higurashi anime, Plastic memories was all about the ending, obviously Death note.

Is it bad that I haven’t watched death note yet😭
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Yeah.. Maybe alittle. It's THE anime afterall.
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Should I still watch it even though I got spoilers?
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I thought it was a great ending
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I personally don't mind how it ended, I just wish that we got to see more of how everyone's lives went after everything settled down
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An incredibly strong finish to a masterpiece of a show
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Buny0058 said:
@Ruthless_Lord Yup sure thing. Have you seen Code geas and Plastic memories? They have fantastic endings.

No, I haven't but Thank You for the recommendation, I was searching for watching a new anime.
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An amazing ending to a masterpiece of a show.

Also, you can clearly see how well received it was based on how the anime-onlies reacted and through the ratings everywhere. IGN also made a great review (which is a rare case lol).
The anime basically fixed all the rushed parts in the manga plus I'm glad the extra pages were also adapted.
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DeepfryJimmy1 said:

The entire point of implying titans can return is to show that eren wasn’t able to fix anything in the long term but he was able to at least make a peaceful world for the rest of his freinds lifetime

Eren couldn't do shit at all at all and it's because of ymir honestly if someone smart was given full control of the founder things would have been a lot different

It wouldn’t change anything. Some new faction would arise from somewhere and go against another faction. Whether it be a civil war eventually happening in Paradis or an uprising of Eldians who were against genocide, conflict and war would happen again. At the end of the day that’s what the ending of AoT meant. World peace can never happen for long periods of time because eventually conflict will start, with something simple such as a feud between families or what happened in the case of AoT. These conflicts will either die out or will grow into something much larger, and some will always get larger. Everything is a cycle including the rise and fall of conflict and nations and societies. Look around at the world. It happens everywhere. There are countless civilizations that have risen and fallen and countless wars that have started and ended. All things eventually end. Whether it be war, peace, a world with titans, or a world without titans. Eren achieved his goal of creating a time of peace, and his friends got to live out their lives without war or conflict, but eventually that time of peace ends because it has to, and as seen in the credits, it ultimately was a small moment in history that would be followed by many other moments. And just like real life, the cycle will repeat.
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My only real problem was how cut up the final season was in release, with Mappa dropping chunks to us every couple years of the final arc which kept halting the momentum of the story in the most jarring cliffhangers. By the time part 2 of the final chapters rolled around, I was still hyped to an extent throughout, but I would have been more invested if I didn't have to keep trying to remember what had happened from a year or two ago. It would have been better if they had waited to combine parts 1 and 2 of the final season as one release, then later release the final chapters' two parts as just one movie.

As for the ending itself, I thought it was great just like everything else. If I had one complaint, it would be how Eren's character went completely 180 after the entire final season set up how much he changed. But I can respect the author's decision in why Eren turned out the way he did. There really isn't another story out there like Attack on Titan. What it achieved is insane, and it will remain as one of my favorite stories ever conceived by man for the rest of my life.
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Ruthless_Lord said:
Buny0058 said:
@Ruthless_Lord Yup sure thing. Have you seen Code geas and Plastic memories? They have fantastic endings.

No, I haven't but Thank You for the recommendation, I was searching for watching a new anime.

Hell yeah. Love those franchises.
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The ending was not so good, actually. I think the last dialogue was better in Anime than Manga. Nevertheless, it was not the same quality which I am normally used to AOT. I also personally think that the final fight against Eren can be longer and that more people should die. All in all it was ok not more not less.
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pro genocide political message is just what i hate about the ending but the rest is great
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AR550 said:
The ending is absolutely awful for it completely retconned the main themes of the story.

For starters, we've been told throughout the whole series that only one side would be able to survive via completely wiping out the other; in fact that's what we've seen with the nuking of Paradis, but the way this was executed was in the worst possible manner by: (1) Completely destroying Eren's character, (2) Wasting the potential of Ymir's Character and (3) with a huge plot armor to the Alliance.

1- Completely Destroying Eren's Character: Since Eren is the main character, It would be obvious to assume that, by accompaining his journey in the first hand, we should empathize with him. We see him losing his family and friends to multiple wars, we see him getting to the basement and finding out the truth about the world, we see his worldview and reaction toward the turn of events change as his character progresses. But the best thing there was in the pre-139 Eren is that, despite all this, as we have seen in chapter 130 and 131 of the manga (I don't remember the Episodes in the anime), when Mikasa and Armin admit to themselves that *Eren was always like that*, which means that despite all the troubles and hardships his been through he was able to maintain himself true to his true self, true to the principles and the goals he previously established to himself; which is killing all his enemies (then the titans, the marleyans after and in the end the rest of the world) and his incessant drive towards freedom. To me, this always meant the true meaning why Eren inherited the Attack Titan, the Titan who always refused the orders of the royal family and always pushed towards freedom, and Eren, by being born of the seed of the Attack Titan's Shifter, was therefore the living encarnation of this will. But what does isayama do in the end? "Eren was only acting! He did it all for his friends! including killing his own mother to save Bertholdt! he was a slave to freedom all along!". Even though we've been presented with amazing plot twists by Isayama, there absolutely hasn't been a worst one than this in the history of fiction. And don't say that "That's how you wanted the story to end, not as how it has to be", that's complete bullshit. The ending simply betrays Eren's character by creating a crybaby and contradictory twisted version of himself with the narrative guise of "I was confused! I couldn't differ between past, present and future!". Don't make me laugh, that's just bad writing and It took a lot of effort to ruin such a complex and wonderful character such as Eren. This is the main reason why this ending is absolute garbage.

2- Wasting the Potential of Ymir's Character: When Ymir's Backstory was finally presented, it was great. Her personality only orbited around the fact that she was a faithful slave to King Fritz, but the her very act of compassion by freeing the pigs was the event that almost caused her death, but instead gave her godly-like powers. We see here, though latent and rather small, that Ymir also has a drive towards freedom, that probably has been manifested in the Attack Titan's will to always disobey the royals. Despite this, she remains a slave to King Fritz during her lifetime and beyond, a cycle of slavery that could only have been broken by Eren in chapter 122 of the manga. But in the ending we see this be completely rectonned. Attack on Titan, which by no means was a damned romance story, suddenly adds that YMIR ACTUALLY LOVED KING FRITZ AND WAS WAITING FOR MIKASA (Not Eren, lol), NOT EVEN A FULL-BLOODED ELDIAN, TO KILL THE GUY WHO WENT TO THE PATHS TO SAVE HER IN ORDER FOR HER TO GET RID OF FRITZ AND END THE POWER OF THE TITANS. Lmao, that's absolutely ridiculous. It came out of nothing, It looks like it was an improvised solution that Isayama came to when he didn't have enough time to finish the story. Mikasa's love for eren was - being generous here - a side and minor theme of the story and suddenly making it the main thread in order to solve some rather cosmological matter is rather dumb and confusing imo.

3- Huge plot armor to the Alliance: This topic here quite explains itself. Literally *none* of the main Alliance members died, only Magath and Hange. They literally fought a god-like being with full access to the manipulation of the laws of time and biology and won almost without effort. The whole fight was mid compared to previous Seasons and WTF was that with Grisha, Kruger and Xaver suddenly helping them even though they were under Ymir's Control? In a plotline where Eren wouldn't want to deliberately lose to his friends (which links, returning to point 1, to the complete distortion of Eren's motives) it would literally be impossible for the alliance to win, hence the plot armor.

Attack on Titan used to be a wonderful story, but the ending was way too terrible to still render It such status. It betrayed the main themes and characters, did not make sense within the same frame of the universe the story is settled and wrapped all of it with bad writing. I gave it the 1/10 grade because there wasn't the 0/10 one.

indeed, awful is the only correct answer
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