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Jul 2, 2024 11:33 AM
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So recently news came out Blackstone, a company heavily behind dei like blackrock has now infiltrated Japan buying a Japanese manga publisher.

Looks like globalization will accelerate faster than even I expected. Would you read dei manga,? What do you think of the purchase?
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Jul 2, 2024 11:44 AM
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Well, chasing after anything profitable has been huge for western corporations for decades now. Anime is mainstream media, so all this is inevitable. I don't think it'll have too much impact on the industry tbh. This DEI thing will not work, cuz it goes against what anime is fundamentally. "Inclusion" is nothing more than a strategical term being thrown around by large companies to make easy profit, so if it fails to make profit it is abandoned immediately.
Jul 2, 2024 11:54 AM
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Well, chasing after anything profitable has been huge for western corporations for decades now. Anime is mainstream media, so all this is inevitable. I don't think it'll have too much impact on the industry tbh. This DEI thing will not work, cuz it goes against what anime is fundamentally. "Inclusion" is nothing more than a strategical term being thrown around by large companies to make easy profit, so if it fails to make profit it is abandoned immediately.
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The problem in the west about that idea is that dei is tax funded so even if continues to show financial failure; it shows no sign of stopping. Dei is getting flexed largely in our modern gaming industry. I hope Japan can maintain against these global standards. It will definitely get slowly more and more implemented in the creation process.
Jul 2, 2024 11:56 AM
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@SimplyBrazen
The problem in the west about that idea is that dei is tax funded so even if continues to show financial failure; it shows no sign of stopping. Dei is getting flexed largely in our modern gaming industry. I hope Japan can maintain against these global standards. It will definitely get slowly more and more implemented in the creation process.

Hmm, I wasn't aware of that. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
Jul 2, 2024 12:17 PM
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Don't really care or believe in the "DEI" fearmongering but I am surprised a foreign company managed to buy Japanese one. Maybe they weren't as restrictive as I was told.

As to the purchase I've heard nothing but bad things about Blackstone so its probably bad.
Jul 2, 2024 12:51 PM
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isnt that a good thing or am i missing something?

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Jul 2, 2024 12:53 PM
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isnt that a good thing or am i missing something?
@TsutanaiFuun It means modern West minded woke manga is incoming.
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Jul 2, 2024 12:56 PM
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@TsutanaiFuun It means modern West minded woke manga is incoming.
@Coaghim nooooooo :(((

but it clearly wont sell as much so they will have to go back to their old ways is what i like to believe. i mean most of us here loath that woke shit and if that starts to appear in mangas then most of us wont read or enjoy those mangas, right?

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Jul 2, 2024 12:58 PM
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I never heard about this company before.
Jul 2, 2024 12:58 PM

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"DEI" doesn't exist in media. It's a corporate term that refers to inclusive hiring practices that prevent you from excluding people from a job they're otherwise qualified for due to factors such as their race, gender, or sexuality.

Anyone who cries "DEI" or "SBI" whenever they see black people or women in media is just a bigoted moron being taken advantage of by grifters on social media who are banking on people being dumb enough to believe that diversity in media is a "new" phenomenon, and that it's part of some "woke agenda" being pushed by "woke" companies, rather than something that's been happening for decades, across some of the biggest and most iconic film franchises of the 80s and 90s, and even in early 3D video games.

Besides that, the publishers often don't have too much of a say in the content of the manga they publish outside of some general guidelines that the mangaka have to follow. If you see diversity in your anime and manga, it's because the mangaka want it. Like Hirohiko Araki, who wrote a strong female protagonist in Stone Ocean (serialized from 1999 to 2003 IIRC, before the terms "wokeness", or "DEI" ever existed), because he wanted to make Weekly Shounen Jump readers more accepting of strong female protagonists.
Jul 2, 2024 1:07 PM

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@Coaghim nooooooo :(((

but it clearly wont sell as much so they will have to go back to their old ways is what i like to believe. i mean most of us here loath that woke shit and if that starts to appear in mangas then most of us wont read or enjoy those mangas, right?
@TsutanaiFuun Blackstone will buy so much stocks that they will gain the power to steer the company wherever they desire and they don't care about the initial disruptive consequences on the market. Blackstone itself will always survive by being a kind of parasite that has penetrated nearly all markets on this planet. Sadly Blackstone only cares about pushing the agenda and streamlining/creating the hivemind they desire. In other words, Blackstone loves to engage in culture wars. Divide & conquer. It's the equivalent of (super ultra) rich people playing Crusader Kings essentially.

You don't have to believe me, feel free to go on the net and investigate yourself.
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Jul 2, 2024 1:10 PM

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@TsutanaiFuun Blackstone will buy so much stocks that they will gain the power to steer the company wherever they desire and they don't care about the initial disruptive consequences on the market. Blackstone itself will always survive by being a kind of parasite that has penetrated nearly all markets on this planet. Sadly Blackstone only cares about pushing the agenda and streamlining/creating the hivemind they desire. In other words, Blackstone loves to engage in culture wars. Divide & conquer. It's the equivalent of (super ultra) rich people playing Crusader Kings essentially.

You don't have to believe me, feel free to go on the net and investigate yourself.
@Coaghim if that's true then its very concerning. doesn't seem like we normal people can do anything against it. i;ll just hope that the extent to which it happens is at least mild so that anime and mangas don't lose their original essence. i mean we dont want unnecessary woke shit. now that it has come to this we will have to learn to tolerate it to some degree.

i dont know much about this so i'll look up about blackstone some more.

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Jul 2, 2024 1:28 PM

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"DEI" doesn't exist in media. It's a corporate term that refers to inclusive hiring practices that prevent you from excluding people from a job they're otherwise qualified for due to factors such as their race, gender, or sexuality.

Anyone who cries "DEI" or "SBI" whenever they see black people or women in media is just a bigoted moron being taken advantage of by grifters on social media who are banking on people being dumb enough to believe that diversity in media is a "new" phenomenon, and that it's part of some "woke agenda" being pushed by "woke" companies, rather than something that's been happening for decades, across some of the biggest and most iconic film franchises of the 80s and 90s, and even in early 3D video games.

Besides that, the publishers often don't have too much of a say in the content of the manga they publish outside of some general guidelines that the mangaka have to follow. If you see diversity in your anime and manga, it's because the mangaka want it. Like Hirohiko Araki, who wrote a strong female protagonist in Stone Ocean (serialized from 1999 to 2003 IIRC, before the terms "wokeness", or "DEI" ever existed), because he wanted to make Weekly Shounen Jump readers more accepting of strong female protagonists.
@ShatteredSans Then how do you justify what's going on with the entire video game industry right now? And don't forget how Hollywood went to complete ruin the moment these DEI investors came aboard and started producing these gender/race inclusive media while also hiring talentless actors, writers, and directors just because they belonged to a certain gender/race.

The fact is that DEI does exist and it promotes hiring people based on race/gender instead of their talent and these talentless apes then proceed to make media that is shittier than some Tumblr fanfiction of Twilight. When the writer actually wants to write a female character then it works because he has a creative vision for it(Maomao, Vi, Jolyne, etc.) but if he is forced to do it because some woke braindead investor told him to, it results in a character that is made only to check the boxes turning her into a boring girl boss that the audience hates(Rey, Captain Marvel, whatever that ugly bitch from Acolyte is called, etc.)

And then we have the final piece of this mess, YOU. Whenever someone points out this shit then you immediately start playing the " You are a rAcIsT/bIgOt/hOmOpHoBe" card to justify this enshittification of media. What this does is it actually turns the person you are targeting and those reading your stupid arguments into said bigots who are then taken advantage of by the grifters.
Jul 2, 2024 1:44 PM

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Blackstone is just a holding company. They are not a management company, they make investments and sell them. That's it.

Every time I hear this DEI fear mongering thing I shudder, because that guarantees it will be successful.
All the god damn shills on YouTube who have never even heard of anime before, will quickly make horrible videos using stock footage from the anime they deem to be woke the INSTANT the first episode drops (or even before- with "inside knowledge" of someone in the biz, which will be some incel who flunked out of a related company a few years ago but still has a friend in their IT department) --->while they rant about how "woke" it is because there's a: black character in an anime or something ("Japin'eez ppl aren't black! This proves it's Woke Equity making the characters black!) OR because every character isn't a muscle man ("what did they do with our heroes!!! waaaaaaaaaaa")

And as a result the woke anime will get 36000 times as many hits as it would have before, because now millions of reddit freaks are hate-watching it, making it a smash success.

And that is the story of 'woke' media....

Jul 2, 2024 1:47 PM

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Take your culture war bullshit off this website. You're hiding racist bullshit under the thin layer of "being afraid of DEI" and literally 99% of the people on the internet can see through it. The fact that the mods on this site let people like you spread shit like this with 0 repurcussions is concerning. Your source being a "anti-woke" Youtuber makes it even worse. Ragebait like this should not be allowed on the website as all it does is radicalize people into become hateful losers.
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Very concerning. Between news like this and the recent events of U-NEXT (as well as other digital distributors and store-fronts like DMM and Fanza) deleting "general content" on their platform to appease American multinational payment processors like Visa and Mastercard, it's evident that there isn't any form of Japanese entertainment that isn't in the crosshairs of cultural colonialism nowadays.


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If you are really upset about me calling out people for spreading hateful conspiracies you really need to reevaluate your priorities instead of buying into said hateful conspiracies.
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Jul 2, 2024 2:07 PM

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It looks like the story also got picked up by revsaysdesu and chibireviews. I am surprised the company could get bought out since even I thought Japanese companies have rules against foreigners owning too many shares of a company.
Jul 2, 2024 2:28 PM

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@ShatteredSans Then how do you justify what's going on with the entire video game industry right now? And don't forget how Hollywood went to complete ruin the moment these DEI investors came aboard and started producing these gender/race inclusive media while also hiring talentless actors, writers, and directors just because they belonged to a certain gender/race.

The fact is that DEI does exist and it promotes hiring people based on race/gender instead of their talent and these talentless apes then proceed to make media that is shittier than some Tumblr fanfiction of Twilight. When the writer actually wants to write a female character then it works because he has a creative vision for it(Maomao, Vi, Jolyne, etc.) but if he is forced to do it because some woke braindead investor told him to, it results in a character that is made only to check the boxes turning her into a boring girl boss that the audience hates(Rey, Captain Marvel, whatever that ugly bitch from Acolyte is called, etc.)

And then we have the final piece of this mess, YOU. Whenever someone points out this shit then you immediately start playing the " You are a rAcIsT/bIgOt/hOmOpHoBe" card to justify this enshittification of media. What this does is it actually turns the person you are targeting and those reading your stupid arguments into said bigots who are then taken advantage of by the grifters.
@AshuAmbrose what's going on in the gaming industry right now is that corporate executives who are out of touch and care solely about chasing trends and making profits are forcing developers to make games that they either don't want to make (Redfall), that only exist for brand synchronicity (Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League), or that are just conceptually bad (that Gollum game), rather than letting the creatives in these companies make the games they want, which, in addition to rushing out games that aren't finished yet to please investors and pushing live-service elements in games where they don't belong (Avengers and Gotham Knights) is resulting in a lot of bad games, and incredibly buggy and unpolished games releasing every year. But none of that has anything to do with "wokeness" or "DEI". It's just capitalism doing its thing, and the quality of art suffering as a consequence. None of these problems would be solved by replacing all black, female, or LGBT developers, writers, or directors with white men.

I never claimed that DEI in general doesn't exist, only that it doesn't exist in media. If you could actually read, perhaps you would've picked up on what I meant, because I already spelled it out. "DEI" is a corporate term used to refer to inclusive hiring practices, not when black people, women, or LGBT people show up in your movies, TV shows, and video games.

And no, I don't just randomly call people racist for just criticizing media in general. That's a BS way that you "anti-woke" morons like to deflect from any criticism of your bigotry. If you want to legitimately criticize the writing, gameplay, visuals, or other aspects of a piece of media, there's nothing wrong with that, but "oh no, there's black people in the new GTA trailer! It's gone woke! DEI! SBI! Video games are supposed to be escapism!" Is not a valid criticism. It's just racism, and if pointing that out makes someone into a racist that's manipulated by grifters, chances are they were already racist to begin with.
Jul 3, 2024 12:01 AM

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No Geeky Sparkles tp say "Yellow!", I am not watching this video.

On the other hand a lot of people screamed "The end is nigh!" when BiliBili invested in some japanese media companies...than nothing apparently bad happened.
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I don't understand how that company earns such a profit.
https://mechacomic.jp/

Specifically, they will buy the reputable company Infocom. Apparently, SONY also aimed to buy it.
https://www.infocom.co.jp/en/company/group.html
Jul 3, 2024 12:49 AM

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Well it's obviously a bad thing, only fake anime fans (tourist) will somehow like it. We all saw the huge failure after failure wokeness did to hollywood.
Jul 3, 2024 12:50 AM
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I do not really understand how DEI ties into this, in complete honesty. If anything, I think the danger to anime culture is vastly overblown in this respect. Not that I am saying this is a good move, but that saying DEI is the problem is either simplifying the real issue or misconstruing it entirely.
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We'll see? Theres more likelihood of seeing Tencent CCP effects in western media with their acquisitions than this one being ground zero of making Japan media woke.

I mean, look at what Game Science said to Sweet Baby who tried to leverage themselves lol.
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@AshuAmbrose what's going on in the gaming industry right now is that corporate executives who are out of touch and care solely about chasing trends and making profits are forcing developers to make games that they either don't want to make (Redfall), that only exist for brand synchronicity (Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League), or that are just conceptually bad (that Gollum game), rather than letting the creatives in these companies make the games they want, which, in addition to rushing out games that aren't finished yet to please investors and pushing live-service elements in games where they don't belong (Avengers and Gotham Knights) is resulting in a lot of bad games, and incredibly buggy and unpolished games releasing every year. But none of that has anything to do with "wokeness" or "DEI". It's just capitalism doing its thing, and the quality of art suffering as a consequence. None of these problems would be solved by replacing all black, female, or LGBT developers, writers, or directors with white men.

I never claimed that DEI in general doesn't exist, only that it doesn't exist in media. If you could actually read, perhaps you would've picked up on what I meant, because I already spelled it out. "DEI" is a corporate term used to refer to inclusive hiring practices, not when black people, women, or LGBT people show up in your movies, TV shows, and video games.

And no, I don't just randomly call people racist for just criticizing media in general. That's a BS way that you "anti-woke" morons like to deflect from any criticism of your bigotry. If you want to legitimately criticize the writing, gameplay, visuals, or other aspects of a piece of media, there's nothing wrong with that, but "oh no, there's black people in the new GTA trailer! It's gone woke! DEI! SBI! Video games are supposed to be escapism!" Is not a valid criticism. It's just racism, and if pointing that out makes someone into a racist that's manipulated by grifters, chances are they were already racist to begin with.
@ShatteredSans I find it weird you call someone a bigot for complaining about forced inclusion and racist moves. You clearly call random people bigots and phobes for just having a different opinion. When literally a bigot is someone like you who wouldn't accept any other opinion than yours... You would be someone calling egyptians racists for calling out black cleopatra, wouldn't you? Since you are a racist at heart at the end of the day.

Btw you saying Suicide Squad didn't have a bad story because of DEI is showing that you have no idea what you are talking about and still calling people bigots for some reason and saying words like "woke" or "anti-woke" is proof of that
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If you are really upset about me calling out people for spreading hateful conspiracies you really need to reevaluate your priorities instead of buying into said hateful conspiracies.
@LSSJ_Gaming Weird how you spread hate when you say you are calling out hate... Really calling yourself out in the process huh
Jul 3, 2024 3:45 AM

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Yeah nothing more than some stupid conspiracy theories
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@LSSJ_Gaming Weird how you spread hate when you say you are calling out hate... Really calling yourself out in the process huh
@Confused_100 That's quite literally all LSSJ does, always starts shit with their hypocritical stances. Not surprising consider which group they're from.
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What're the odds that these YT outrage merchants also blame the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge (which was struck by a container ship) on "Baltimore's DEI mayor"? Pretty good, I'd say.

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Jul 3, 2024 10:17 AM
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Blackstone and Blackrock are different companies, by the way. Not that the concerns aren't warranted, because they very well might be, but it is Blackrock that is the notoriously DEI focused one. It could be worse.
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So you're against Stan Lee writing Heroman? What about Felipe Smith? Are you against those? What about anime adaptation of webtoons and Chinese manhua? What about Kurokami (the creators are South Korean)?

Oh, and what about Shotaro Ishinomori's Zelda: A Link to the Past OEL manga?

Do you realize when you're saying you're against DEI, you're also saying you're against having Stan Lee, and Felipe Smith getting involved in doing manga, or Japan adapting webtoons and Manhua into anime. That's Japan being inclusive and being diverse by doing that.

Do you realize some of those right-wingers have also said things negative about anime like Matt Walsh for example. I can say the same for Tucker Carlson.
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Imagine watching ClownfishTV in 2024...
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So you're against Stan Lee writing Heroman? What about Felipe Smith? Are you against those? What about anime adaptation of webtoons and Chinese manhua? What about Kurokami (the creators are South Korean)?

Oh, and what about Shotaro Ishinomori's Zelda: A Link to the Past OEL manga?

Do you realize when you're saying you're against DEI, you're also saying you're against having Stan Lee, and Felipe Smith getting involved in doing manga, or Japan adapting webtoons and Manhua into anime. That's Japan being inclusive and being diverse by doing that.

Do you realize some of those right-wingers have also said things negative about anime like Matt Walsh for example. I can say the same for Tucker Carlson.
mdo7 said:

Do you realize when you're saying you're against DEI, you're also saying you're against having Stan Lee, and Felipe Smith getting involved in doing manga, or Japan adapting webtoons and Manhua into anime.


To trash bin it goes. Stan Lee and Felipe Smith should work on their beloved comics only, instead of ruining manga by their cursed presence. South Koreans should make cartoons based on Manhua themselves instead of using 'brand' of anime.

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That's Japan being inclusive and being diverse by doing that.


And what is the point of this? I see zero advantages. You want your cultural diversity then you give resources to a cultural group of interest to let them make their own thing. When you mix cultures you get a crap, Hollywood and gaming industry showed it well.
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