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Aug 12, 2009 12:50 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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That Shoukei really deserves what she got. After all of these things happened to her, she's still a bitch.
Dec 29, 2010 8:05 PM
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I still feel sorry for that servant girl
Feb 24, 2011 9:47 AM
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I can feel Youko is starting to lose it again..... Get a grip Youko!

and that ex-princess really annoys me, when is she gonna change!
Apr 29, 2011 11:55 AM
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I wonder if the queen will be nice....
Youko is starting to freak me out!
I hope she doesn't do anything stupid.
Aug 23, 2011 5:07 PM
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I hope Shoukei gets some revelation like Youko did when she made that turnaround some time in those first ten episodes or so (or more - can't remember exactly when her personality changed for the better!). Unfortunately... yeah, Youko is starting to lose it again. I want to say "I wish Keiki would give her better guidance", but I don't know if he can. I wonder if the emperor of En could bring her to her senses again?

Honestly... not one of the three "main characters" in the three storylines we're following is likable, at the moment. Suzu is fanatical and vengeful and just wants to get back at that horrid mistress of hers; Shoukei is completely self-absorbed and shallow, and just wants to get revenge on all of the young queens/empresses since she is no longer one; and Youko is going crazy trying to please everyone - in a sense, reverting to her old people-pleasing personality. Will continue to hope for the best...
Apr 29, 2012 7:25 AM
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terrible punishment in the beginning О_______О
Jun 8, 2013 3:34 PM
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You know something's wrong when you hate every character on the screen for an entire episode.
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Mar 5, 2014 10:59 PM
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Oh boy looks like were about to see another evil ruler. Also seems like Youko has had enough of their bullshit too.
Mar 26, 2014 6:13 AM
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I'm starting to hate this arc >__>
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness."

"May those who defy their fate be granted glory."
Jul 26, 2014 11:07 AM

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I'm LOVING THIS ARC HOLY SHIYAT

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN???

WHY ARE THESE TWO OTHER GIRLS BEING GIVEN IMPORTANCE???

They've been planting seeds right from the beginning. Right when Youko saw Enki for the first time, he said something. That was because he was looking for Taiki. And for a long time already. Jesus fucking Christ what is the seed they have planted from when Suzu went to Mt. Hou and saw Taiki? MYSTERIES MYSTERIES

Youko's personality, the change in the cabinet, the change of fates of Shoukei and Suzu, the respectable-as-fuck Gekkei (seriously.........what a manly man Gekkei truly is.......true respectable man, not like the stupid shitty ass kiddy kids and kiddy adults elsewhere)

If only this had more than just 45 episodes. There's not enough space for the gigantic story. Even Ginei was still incomplete (as not the entire novel was adapted), despite being 26 to 30+ minutes spanning 110 episodes.

Goddamnit

The whirlpool has arrived. I have been caught, and I can no longer escape from it. But I have to sleep so I can watch more after I wake up. Fuck yeah.

Oshii said:
You know something's wrong when you hate every character on the screen for an entire episode.

What a happy little world you live in then.
Jan 30, 2015 5:30 AM

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what a mess this episode. Queen my ass

Aug 19, 2015 8:48 AM

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Dropped I can't waste my time with this shit anymore
Nov 9, 2015 8:53 PM

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If you guys take issue with this arc, then I'm surprised you made it this far at all, considering that the first few episodes of the series are no better.
Matsuoka Yoshitsugu has hardly any range as a voice actor, and is grossly over-cast.

Yeah. I said it.
Nov 14, 2015 3:02 PM

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Cut the girls some slack. Youko is still learning her ways as a queen and she doesn't really know, whom she can trust. Suzus feelings regarding her mistress are completely understandable and justified. And she doesn't really want to go back at her, she just wants to escape that miserable life and to be treated as a human being. Between the poor girl and the sadistic bitch, Suzu is at fault? Get real. Shoukei may be self-absorbed, but she is not responsible for her fathers crimes. The villagers are lucky, that the soldiers prevented them from killing an innocent person. I wouldn't mind if they were sentenced ( and killed ) for the attempt of executing an innocent person.

Old Bag says, Shoukei thinks that she is the only one who suffered and she has no good conscience. Ironic, that she describes herself.
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Dec 18, 2015 6:33 PM

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Wow, that near-execution... that would have been brutal. Sure, she's a spoiled brat, but given how she was raised, it's not unexpected.
Dec 29, 2016 5:28 PM
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Youko's going nuts again, but it's to be expected given the sudden avalanche of bullshit she's been buried under.

Suzu is ok. She's not bringing much to the table yet other than her unintentionally hilarious fantasies about meeting Youko, but I still hope she manages to find her way back to Japan.

I really like Shoukei so far. Her defiance is justified on some level - if her claims are true (and we have no reason to suspect otherwise), she really does have no real culpability for the crimes of her father, and so her grievance against the townspeople is legitimate. The townspeople honestly deserved to be called out much more harshly than they were, they straight up tried to fucking murder her in revenge for crimes she didn't play a part in.

If her apparent jealousy towards Youko is better fleshed out and turns into something interesting, she's got a shot at being the best character the show has to offer.

The old woman was interesting. Seems like she realized deep down that violence begets violence (and Shoukei never personally inflicted violence on anyone anyway) and her conscience wouldn't let her stand by and allow the execution to go ahead.

Just to get in my scheduled complaining about the divine mandate of monarchs this world has, you'd think that a rebellion in which people execute the Heaven-sent king, his family and the equally Heaven-sent creature who chose him would shake things up a little, but the Heavens and the other kingdoms don't seem to have responded at all, despite the fact that such an event would seem to threaten the very concept this world's society is built upon.
Jun 20, 2017 3:53 AM

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"Rotten"
The one that saying that is just as rotten as her
That was funny, thank you for making me laugh (*≧▽≦)ノシ))

I don't know... I really don't know whether she made right decision or not
I mean it's pretty harsh decision especially when she didn't even know the truth

Suzu... got a better life now.. I guess?

I don't know about Lord Kei, he could avoid so much problems by doing that.. but no
I hope the princess won't get in any big trouble now that she's not in Hou
But I don't think so, this anime have too many problems
And I still don't know what these characters are for :(
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May 26, 2018 1:21 AM

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Why do some of the characters tend to be so annoying it's hard to watch ;-;
I guess the point is that they start off ignorant and annoying but then grow and change but still.. hopefully the characters will be more likeable
Nov 12, 2019 7:25 AM

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Damn these oxes were so close!
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Youko was certainly satisfied with herself after letting off some steam xD A big moment for someone that used to have no character at all. Besides, the thought that people serving under me could be so petty wouldn't sit well with me either. Better leave things to Keiki for now.

And yeah, leaving the palace for a place where she can clear her head and learn more about the world/people she's living in/she has to rule seems like a good idea.

For a second the prospect of Suzu meeting a Youko that went down the dark path came to mind. Now I think that they will have a random encounter somewhere. It might turn out to be a life changing moment for Suzu.

As for Shoukei. Damn, she was about to spread her legs in a different way. Well, she got a taste of the horror the subjects of her father had to go through. Now she ended up at royal court again, below a younger looking queen. Oh, Kyou is gonna be a bitch to her. She gives off that vibe.

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Jan 29, 2022 9:40 AM
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this anime has a lot of story...but comes in one direction...
Dec 26, 2023 5:32 PM

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I'm surprised to see people hate this arc. I disliked the previous arc for the most part, but I'm actually liking this arc. I'm excited to see how the 3 women come to meet, if they even meet. I already saw how Youko and Shoukei are similar in their personalities. I can even see how Youko and Suzu are similar, in that both of them are waiting for others to save them and bail them out. Though I do wonder how Shoukei and Suzu are similar... Is there even a similarity???
May 30, 2024 3:10 AM
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Good, this is the girl boss Youko, she realized her weakness and using her own judgement
Jun 2, 2024 3:45 PM
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I'm really hating Keiki
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