Kaii to Otome to Kamikakushi Episode 1 Discussion

Studio actually chickened out showing Sumireko's inverted nipples. Booooo~~~~ Here's hoping they would at least show them in the BD.

For the first time since I read the manga I actually know what the hell is going on. Each chapter is so full of texts I unconsciously may have skipped some dialogues lol. If you enjoy gross stuff, like puke, dripping blood etc you will enjoy this.

The part where Sumireko is shrinking, I like it better in the manga where she isn't aware that she is shrinking.

Studio actually chickened out showing Sumireko's inverted nipples. Booooo~~~~ Here's hoping they would at least show them in the BD.

For the first time since I read the manga I actually know what the hell is going on. Each chapter is so full of texts I unconsciously may have skipped some dialogues lol. If you enjoy gross stuff, like puke, dripping blood etc you will enjoy this.

The part where Sumireko is shrinking, I like it better in the manga where she isn't aware that she is shrinking.

@RKGS I am not downplaying anything, nor do I think this is not a problem. It is a problem, and the show is worse for it.

BUT, It's not the BIGGEST problem.

Removing things from the manga almost always results in a worse product, and censorship is always a bad thing, but that doesn't mean ALL cuts and censorships are show ruining.

They matter, but if these are HUGE issues to you, then what would you do if they removed an entire scene that was important to the story, or an entire plot point, or arc?

So yes, this is a problem, and I am not excusing it, I just don't think it's a HUGE problem. It could have been much worse. That doesn't mean it's not an issue though.

@APolygons2 Isn't it beyond obvious I would not like it if they removed even more stuff? What even was the point of writing this response out?
Just saying I don't get mad at only nudity being censored, I really disliked BokuYaba's anime adaptation since it hard kneecapped the weirdo MC's violent delusions and also the things he used to think about his classmates, like calling one a "slut" and thinking of beheading her, of course in its typical chibi/unserious way, but still.
It was even more bizarre how they left that out in the first episode but then introduced some random sex talk from his classmates that was not present in the manga at all, and having them say "cock" and the like too. Apparently talking about cocks and explicit foreplay acts is A-OK for Japanese studios/broadcasters, but calling a girl a "slut" isn't? Whack.
Especially whack knowing that R-18 VNs censor the word they use for cock to this day, AzarashiSoft comes to mind. They do it even for the slightly less vulgar "chinchin" instead of "chinpo" too, so the fact anime that aired on unrestricted TV did it but opted not to say "slut" was some truly dumb and inconsistent stuff.

@RKGS If they stayed accurate to the source material, which is not animated, they would have to not animate it, which wouldn't leave much of an anime.

It's funny how I didn't come across a single person on the Akogarete threads complaining that it was not "accurate to the source material". If you really want to see anime nipples, and you get really excited when a manga with some nipples gets an adaption because you really want to see anime nipples, and are then crushingly disappointed when the adaption doesn't do that, it's fine. Everyone has different tastes. Just say so directly.

The point is that I wasn't downplaying it. I was just saying the problem is on the small side... at least so far.

It was a direct response to you telling me I was downplaying it, so I explained why I don't think I was. I acknowledged the problem, while explaining why I don't think it's THAT big of a deal.


(also on a side note, we still didn't get the nips, but after rewatching the op, they HAVE THE SHOWER SCENE IN IT, and it the ass crack and everything, it's only missing the nips, not that this makes up for it, but I do find it both weird and hilarious how the op is lewder than the show itself)

@APolygons2 It really isn't a small problem when literally every single episode is going to be affected by it dude. The censorship trend here continues onwards into episode 2 and 3 and that is known, so it's safe to assume it's borked entirely.
The entirety of the animation is not "small", if that's not downplaying I don't know what is. Just because some undesirables here couldn't care less and would rather namecall with childish, terminally online words and shame others doesn't mean adapting an ecchi and removing said ecchi isn't bad. Pretty much wiping out one of the genres from the series is rather awful and that's just objective fact.

@APolygons2 It really isn't a small problem when literally every single episode is going to be affected by it dude. The censorship trend here continues onwards into episode 2 and 3 and that is known, so it's safe to assume it's borked entirely.
The entirety of the animation is not "small", if that's not downplaying I don't know what is. Just because some undesirables here couldn't care less and would rather namecall with childish, terminally online words and shame others doesn't mean adapting an ecchi and removing said ecchi isn't bad. Pretty much wiping out one of the genres from the series is rather awful and that's just objective fact.

@logopolis Geez, you couldn't play more dumb or be more insincere with that first sentence.
Also MahoAko went further and showed nudity while the source material didn't, that's fine for an ecchi adaptation. It's a net positive. Censoring nudity on the other hand is a net negative. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to see that MahoAko didn't get any complaints when the anime showed way, way, way more than the manga ever did.
Also I think I've been more than direct in saying the lack of nudity is bad, did you really think writing out what I've said so many times already and then acting like I'm being cryptic was a good idea here or something?

The point is that I wasn't downplaying it. I was just saying the problem is on the small side... at least so far.

It was a direct response to you telling me I was downplaying it, so I explained why I don't think I was. I acknowledged the problem, while explaining why I don't think it's THAT big of a deal.


(also on a side note, we still didn't get the nips, but after rewatching the op, they HAVE THE SHOWER SCENE IN IT, and it the ass crack and everything, it's only missing the nips, not that this makes up for it, but I do find it both weird and hilarious how the op is lewder than the show itself)

@RKGS If they removed the ecchi elements maybe i would agree that its a bigger deal.

But its just toned down, and in the first ep there like 2-3 panels that were lewder by notable degree in the manga.


It effects every episode true, but the affect isn't show ruining.


are you making me go in circles on purpose?

just read my original comment again. It could have been much much worse, on the scale of censoreship (toning down ecchi elements) is definitely on the lower side.

There are far bigger ways an adaptation can fuck up. So yes it is an issue, but it is FAR from show ruining.

It affects every episode, but it has a small effect on every episode.


As an example, if you toned down or took away the ecchi of interspecies reviewers, it would kind of ruin the whole thing. or at least make it WAY worse.

in comparison, toning down the ecchi here, doesn't REALLY affect too much, EVEN IF IT IS, still bad that they did it.

I rest my case. You don't care about accuracy to the source material. You just want everything to cater to your own personal tastes. You want to censor this anime because it doesn't, and you adopt false pretences to do so.

A lot of forced fanservice in an otherwise great anime with interesting premise