Dark Gathering Is Better Than Undead Murder Farce

Jul 31, 2023 8:06 PM

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Camacho99 said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:
Oh, wow.

Having watched both shows, I don’t know where to even begin. This is, like, so objectively incorrect on so many ways.

You’re, like, comparing a random 6 that might reach a 7 with a lot of effort to a solid 8 that could probably reach a 9 in the future.

Technically, UGMF is actually objectively better. The production value isn’t even comparable.

As for the characters:

Detective chuunibyou? My man, I dare you not becoming this way after passing years literally just as a fucking head. People need to find something to humour themselves. Characterisation is damn near perfect. I am also seriously baffled that some people are complaining about the circus clown acting like a circus clown.

Meanwhile, Dark Gathering barely has enough production value to actually be tense. Direction is mid. Animation is below average. The protagonist has the most generic design imaginable and a somewhat self-insert personality. The loli isn’t really that interesting as well. Frankly, the only aspect holding everything together is Hanazawa Kana carrying the entire shit by playing a Yandere.

They’re not even comparable in quality. Undead Girl Murder Farce is leagues above it.

The only real praise I can give to Dark Gathering is about how it somehow feels like a 2010 anime. It has a charm to it merely because of that, and the plot is original enough to keep you entertained.

That said, quality wise, it’s just middle of the pack, while UGMF is solidly far above “mid”.

this was a completely W

Don’t even keep reading. The rest of this discussion is unironically driving me insane.

This girl is nuts. She claims that I can’t use the term “objectivity” and proceeds to explain why her opinion is objectively correct by some philosopher’s standards.

She yells at people for not reading novels and then claims a light novel isn’t a novel.

As if her knowledge about western books and philosophy made her opinion about a random ass average anime any more valuable.

Like, this is the worst part. We are discussing about the same thing, right? An anime about a random loli killing ghosts. Who the fuck is bringing Aristotle into this? I swear the author just thought the Yandere was hot and made a mid manga about it.

Then the anime poorly adapted it and here we are.

It’s really nothing that deep. How are we even comparing this to a show with pretty deep historical representation and actual characters with existent personalities…?

The internet can be scary at times.

Isekai-EnjoyerJul 31, 2023 8:20 PM

Jul 31, 2023 8:12 PM

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Isekai-Enjoyer said:

auroraloose said:

Of course I take everything I said seriously. And of course Dark Gathering is about a loli murdering ghosts. It is also about darkness, human relationships, and whatever else I said. The loli murdering ghosts part, along with a lot else, is why Dark Gathering is also mediocre, just as Undead Murder Farce is. Though it is not as if great literature cannot be silly, absurd, or childish.

Do you—read? Like, really read. Like Dialectic of Enlightenment read, or The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman read. That latter is a novel. Undead Murder Farce is a manga or something, I don't care. A light novel is not a novel; the preceding modifier cannot be removed. When we talk about great novels, we do not include in the discussion No Matter How I Look at It, It's You Guys' Fault I'm not Popular! (the only physical copy of a light novel I actually own).

It seems like you're espousing the incorrect and facile understanding of critiques of objectivity, as if I were saying everything is "relative." No serious philosopher thinks this. And it is Derrida himself who said that this misunderstanding is what happens when you don't read. Of course, the misunderstanding is rather entrenched in our discourse, which is why it always pops up, and part of what feeds the objectivity nonsense. The problem, as all such philosophers always, tirelessly explain, is that we tend to claim objectivity for things that are very much historical or contextual—and we also tend to do so blithely and lazily, without knowing much philosophy, such that we run into trouble because we're just not being all that careful. It used to be that eugenics was objective, and that quasicrystals were scientifically impossible—and these are just famous examples in science; imagine how much trouble objectivity run amok has caused the average person.

And if anything, what I'm doing here is generating far more categories of rigor by which things are not just subjective whim or opinion; this is far different from just whining about things being subjective. Our societal notion of intelligence is such that the hard sciences crowd everything out, and people end up being absolutely terrible at anything having to do with the humanities. Like critiques of objectivity, or understanding the contextuality of online rating systems (which you clearly do).

Finally, I adamantly do not believe things like beauty, quality, taste, and whatnot are subjective. There is good and bad art, and there is good and bad taste. It is bad that the detective genre is so popular, because it keeps people in the intellectual slums. I'm not sure how we got around to me siding with relativism when I started by claiming one anime is better than another.

I see. I am truly glad we finally came to the conclusion that some people have objectively terrible opinions about works of art.

Such as yours about a mid poorly directed show about a loli murdering ghosts.

Finally? I always start out with that opinion, and have to wring it out of people, who insist taste is subjective and how dare I say otherwise? I do truly and honestly appreciate that you come down on the side of discriminating taste.

I also really like My First Girlfriend Is a Gal and wrote many long comments about Love Flops—though, admittedly, I gave those a 6 and a 5, I think. And, to be fair, my top anime are far more conventional, so I can't double down on having shit taste, unfortunately. But anime is a trash can I eat out of, yes.

I love him who is ashamed when the dice fall in his favour and who then asks: Am I then a cheat? – for he wants to perish.

Jul 31, 2023 8:16 PM

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auroraloose said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:

auroraloose said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:
So, you see…

There’s no other way to say it…

But half of your points are completely redundant and the other half is just delusional.

Of course I take everything I said seriously. And of course Dark Gathering is about a loli murdering ghosts. It is also about darkness, human relationships, and whatever else I said. The loli murdering ghosts part, along with a lot else, is why Dark Gathering is also mediocre, just as Undead Murder Farce is. Though it is not as if great literature cannot be silly, absurd, or childish.

Do you—read? Like, really read. Like Dialectic of Enlightenment read, or The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman read. That latter is a novel. Undead Murder Farce is a manga or something, I don't care. A light novel is not a novel; the preceding modifier cannot be removed. When we talk about great novels, we do not include in the discussion No Matter How I Look at It, It's You Guys' Fault I'm not Popular! (the only physical copy of a light novel I actually own).

It seems like you're espousing the incorrect and facile understanding of critiques of objectivity, as if I were saying everything is "relative." No serious philosopher thinks this. And it is Derrida himself who said that this misunderstanding is what happens when you don't read. Of course, the misunderstanding is rather entrenched in our discourse, which is why it always pops up, and part of what feeds the objectivity nonsense. The problem, as all such philosophers always, tirelessly explain, is that we tend to claim objectivity for things that are very much historical or contextual—and we also tend to do so blithely and lazily, without knowing much philosophy, such that we run into trouble because we're just not being all that careful. It used to be that eugenics was objective, and that quasicrystals were scientifically impossible—and these are just famous examples in science; imagine how much trouble objectivity run amok has caused the average person.

And if anything, what I'm doing here is generating far more categories of rigor by which things are not just subjective whim or opinion; this is far different from just whining about things being subjective. Our societal notion of intelligence is such that the hard sciences crowd everything out, and people end up being absolutely terrible at anything having to do with the humanities. Like critiques of objectivity, or understanding the contextuality of online rating systems (which you clearly do).

Finally, I adamantly do not believe things like beauty, quality, taste, and whatnot are subjective. There is good and bad art, and there is good and bad taste. It is bad that the detective genre is so popular, because it keeps people in the intellectual slums. I'm not sure how we got around to me siding with relativism when I started by claiming one anime is better than another.

I see. I am truly glad we finally came to the conclusion that some people have objectively terrible opinions about works of art.

Such as yours about a mid poorly directed show about a loli murdering ghosts.

Finally? I always start out with that opinion, and have to wring it out of people, who insist taste is subjective and how dare I say otherwise? I do truly and honestly appreciate that you come down on the side of discriminating taste.

I also really like My First Girlfriend Is a Gal and wrote many long comments about Love Flops—though, admittedly, I gave those a 6 and a 5, I think. And, to be fair, my top anime are far more conventional, so I can't double down on having shit taste, unfortunately. But anime is a trash can I eat out of, yes.

Finally.

You’ve been saying some batshit insane shit here and I definitely don’t think you’re sane.

But this last comment of yours was certainly quite commendable. Eating trash with pleasure is certainly my thing.

Good ending, I guess.

Jul 31, 2023 8:17 PM

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Isekai-Enjoyer said:

Camacho99 said:

this was a completely W

Don’t even keep reading. The rest of this discussion is unironically driving me insane.

This girl is nuts. She claims that I can’t use the term “objectivity” and proceeds to explain why her opinion is objectively correct by some philosopher’s standards.

She yells at people for not reading novels and then claims a light novel isn’t a novel.

As if her knowledge about western books and philosophy made her opinion about a random ass average anime any more valuable.

Like, this is the worst part. We are discussing about the same thing, right? An anime about a random loli killing ghosts. Who the fuck is bringing Aristoteles into this? I swear the author just thought the Yandere was hot and made a mid manga about it.

Then the anime poorly adapted it and here we are.

It’s really nothing that deep. How are we even comparing this to a show with pretty deep historical representation and actual characters with existent personalities…?

The internet can be scary at times.

Okay, lol, so I'll have a little more fun if this is actually what you think. 'Cause, you know, even I am not all that great at my Greek philosophy, so I wouldn't refer to Aristotle. Though I do know it's Aristotle, and not Aristoteles.

But man, try to have some fun and people really freak out. You should visit a humanities department someday; if you think I'm nuts, try them out. Though if you're finding the internet crazy at this point, imagine how hilarious I think this is.

I love him who is ashamed when the dice fall in his favour and who then asks: Am I then a cheat? – for he wants to perish.

Jul 31, 2023 8:20 PM

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auroraloose said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:

Don’t even keep reading. The rest of this discussion is unironically driving me insane.

This girl is nuts. She claims that I can’t use the term “objectivity” and proceeds to explain why her opinion is objectively correct by some philosopher’s standards.

She yells at people for not reading novels and then claims a light novel isn’t a novel.

As if her knowledge about western books and philosophy made her opinion about a random ass average anime any more valuable.

Like, this is the worst part. We are discussing about the same thing, right? An anime about a random loli killing ghosts. Who the fuck is bringing Aristoteles into this? I swear the author just thought the Yandere was hot and made a mid manga about it.

Then the anime poorly adapted it and here we are.

It’s really nothing that deep. How are we even comparing this to a show with pretty deep historical representation and actual characters with existent personalities…?

The internet can be scary at times.

Okay, lol, so I'll have a little more fun if this is actually what you think. 'Cause, you know, even I am not all that great at my Greek philosophy, so I wouldn't refer to Aristotle. Though I do know it's Aristotle, and not Aristoteles.

But man, try to have some fun and people really freak out. You should visit a humanities department someday; if you think I'm nuts, try them out. Though if you're finding the internet crazy at this point, imagine how hilarious I think this is.

So, I was kinda roasting you for the sake of it, gotta admit.

I’m a law student, so I’m definitely familiar with actual insane people.

You just have bad taste in anime and I have questionable internet manners which I mask with gramatical politeness.

That’s kinda it.

Jul 31, 2023 8:20 PM

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Isekai-Enjoyer said:

auroraloose said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:

auroraloose said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:
So, you see…

There’s no other way to say it…

But half of your points are completely redundant and the other half is just delusional.

Of course I take everything I said seriously. And of course Dark Gathering is about a loli murdering ghosts. It is also about darkness, human relationships, and whatever else I said. The loli murdering ghosts part, along with a lot else, is why Dark Gathering is also mediocre, just as Undead Murder Farce is. Though it is not as if great literature cannot be silly, absurd, or childish.

Do you—read? Like, really read. Like Dialectic of Enlightenment read, or The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman read. That latter is a novel. Undead Murder Farce is a manga or something, I don't care. A light novel is not a novel; the preceding modifier cannot be removed. When we talk about great novels, we do not include in the discussion No Matter How I Look at It, It's You Guys' Fault I'm not Popular! (the only physical copy of a light novel I actually own).

It seems like you're espousing the incorrect and facile understanding of critiques of objectivity, as if I were saying everything is "relative." No serious philosopher thinks this. And it is Derrida himself who said that this misunderstanding is what happens when you don't read. Of course, the misunderstanding is rather entrenched in our discourse, which is why it always pops up, and part of what feeds the objectivity nonsense. The problem, as all such philosophers always, tirelessly explain, is that we tend to claim objectivity for things that are very much historical or contextual—and we also tend to do so blithely and lazily, without knowing much philosophy, such that we run into trouble because we're just not being all that careful. It used to be that eugenics was objective, and that quasicrystals were scientifically impossible—and these are just famous examples in science; imagine how much trouble objectivity run amok has caused the average person.

And if anything, what I'm doing here is generating far more categories of rigor by which things are not just subjective whim or opinion; this is far different from just whining about things being subjective. Our societal notion of intelligence is such that the hard sciences crowd everything out, and people end up being absolutely terrible at anything having to do with the humanities. Like critiques of objectivity, or understanding the contextuality of online rating systems (which you clearly do).

Finally, I adamantly do not believe things like beauty, quality, taste, and whatnot are subjective. There is good and bad art, and there is good and bad taste. It is bad that the detective genre is so popular, because it keeps people in the intellectual slums. I'm not sure how we got around to me siding with relativism when I started by claiming one anime is better than another.

I see. I am truly glad we finally came to the conclusion that some people have objectively terrible opinions about works of art.

Such as yours about a mid poorly directed show about a loli murdering ghosts.

Finally? I always start out with that opinion, and have to wring it out of people, who insist taste is subjective and how dare I say otherwise? I do truly and honestly appreciate that you come down on the side of discriminating taste.

I also really like My First Girlfriend Is a Gal and wrote many long comments about Love Flops—though, admittedly, I gave those a 6 and a 5, I think. And, to be fair, my top anime are far more conventional, so I can't double down on having shit taste, unfortunately. But anime is a trash can I eat out of, yes.

Finally.

You’ve been saying some batshit insane shit here and I definitely don’t think you’re sane.

But this last comment of yours was certainly quite commendable. Eating trash with pleasure is certainly my thing.

Good ending, I guess.

This really is the problem; i don't think you have an objective notion of the batshit insane. I suppose I will boast somewhat and say that the issue is simply that I am a highly advanced consumer of trash.

I love him who is ashamed when the dice fall in his favour and who then asks: Am I then a cheat? – for he wants to perish.

Jul 31, 2023 8:22 PM

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auroraloose said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:

auroraloose said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:

auroraloose said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:
So, you see…

There’s no other way to say it…

But half of your points are completely redundant and the other half is just delusional.

Of course I take everything I said seriously. And of course Dark Gathering is about a loli murdering ghosts. It is also about darkness, human relationships, and whatever else I said. The loli murdering ghosts part, along with a lot else, is why Dark Gathering is also mediocre, just as Undead Murder Farce is. Though it is not as if great literature cannot be silly, absurd, or childish.

Do you—read? Like, really read. Like Dialectic of Enlightenment read, or The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman read. That latter is a novel. Undead Murder Farce is a manga or something, I don't care. A light novel is not a novel; the preceding modifier cannot be removed. When we talk about great novels, we do not include in the discussion No Matter How I Look at It, It's You Guys' Fault I'm not Popular! (the only physical copy of a light novel I actually own).

It seems like you're espousing the incorrect and facile understanding of critiques of objectivity, as if I were saying everything is "relative." No serious philosopher thinks this. And it is Derrida himself who said that this misunderstanding is what happens when you don't read. Of course, the misunderstanding is rather entrenched in our discourse, which is why it always pops up, and part of what feeds the objectivity nonsense. The problem, as all such philosophers always, tirelessly explain, is that we tend to claim objectivity for things that are very much historical or contextual—and we also tend to do so blithely and lazily, without knowing much philosophy, such that we run into trouble because we're just not being all that careful. It used to be that eugenics was objective, and that quasicrystals were scientifically impossible—and these are just famous examples in science; imagine how much trouble objectivity run amok has caused the average person.

And if anything, what I'm doing here is generating far more categories of rigor by which things are not just subjective whim or opinion; this is far different from just whining about things being subjective. Our societal notion of intelligence is such that the hard sciences crowd everything out, and people end up being absolutely terrible at anything having to do with the humanities. Like critiques of objectivity, or understanding the contextuality of online rating systems (which you clearly do).

Finally, I adamantly do not believe things like beauty, quality, taste, and whatnot are subjective. There is good and bad art, and there is good and bad taste. It is bad that the detective genre is so popular, because it keeps people in the intellectual slums. I'm not sure how we got around to me siding with relativism when I started by claiming one anime is better than another.

I see. I am truly glad we finally came to the conclusion that some people have objectively terrible opinions about works of art.

Such as yours about a mid poorly directed show about a loli murdering ghosts.

Finally? I always start out with that opinion, and have to wring it out of people, who insist taste is subjective and how dare I say otherwise? I do truly and honestly appreciate that you come down on the side of discriminating taste.

I also really like My First Girlfriend Is a Gal and wrote many long comments about Love Flops—though, admittedly, I gave those a 6 and a 5, I think. And, to be fair, my top anime are far more conventional, so I can't double down on having shit taste, unfortunately. But anime is a trash can I eat out of, yes.

Finally.

You’ve been saying some batshit insane shit here and I definitely don’t think you’re sane.

But this last comment of yours was certainly quite commendable. Eating trash with pleasure is certainly my thing.

Good ending, I guess.

This really is the problem; i don't think you have an objective notion of the batshit insane. I suppose I will boast somewhat and say that the issue is simply that I am a highly advanced consumer of trash.

My name is Isekai-Enjoyer.

I will take any insult, but I won’t take people saying they are able to appreciate mid shows better than me.

Three of my favourite shows are isekais. No one can get me out of this hill.

Jul 31, 2023 8:23 PM

#58

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Isekai-Enjoyer said:

auroraloose said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:

Camacho99 said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:
Oh, wow.

Having watched both shows, I don’t know where to even begin. This is, like, so objectively incorrect on so many ways.

You’re, like, comparing a random 6 that might reach a 7 with a lot of effort to a solid 8 that could probably reach a 9 in the future.

Technically, UGMF is actually objectively better. The production value isn’t even comparable.

As for the characters:

Detective chuunibyou? My man, I dare you not becoming this way after passing years literally just as a fucking head. People need to find something to humour themselves. Characterisation is damn near perfect. I am also seriously baffled that some people are complaining about the circus clown acting like a circus clown.

Meanwhile, Dark Gathering barely has enough production value to actually be tense. Direction is mid. Animation is below average. The protagonist has the most generic design imaginable and a somewhat self-insert personality. The loli isn’t really that interesting as well. Frankly, the only aspect holding everything together is Hanazawa Kana carrying the entire shit by playing a Yandere.

They’re not even comparable in quality. Undead Girl Murder Farce is leagues above it.

The only real praise I can give to Dark Gathering is about how it somehow feels like a 2010 anime. It has a charm to it merely because of that, and the plot is original enough to keep you entertained.

That said, quality wise, it’s just middle of the pack, while UGMF is solidly far above “mid”.

this was a completely W

Don’t even keep reading. The rest of this discussion is unironically driving me insane.

This girl is nuts. She claims that I can’t use the term “objectivity” and proceeds to explain why her opinion is objectively correct by some philosopher’s standards.

She yells at people for not reading novels and then claims a light novel isn’t a novel.

As if her knowledge about western books and philosophy made her opinion about a random ass average anime any more valuable.

Like, this is the worst part. We are discussing about the same thing, right? An anime about a random loli killing ghosts. Who the fuck is bringing Aristoteles into this? I swear the author just thought the Yandere was hot and made a mid manga about it.

Then the anime poorly adapted it and here we are.

It’s really nothing that deep. How are we even comparing this to a show with pretty deep historical representation and actual characters with existent personalities…?

The internet can be scary at times.

Okay, lol, so I'll have a little more fun if this is actually what you think. 'Cause, you know, even I am not all that great at my Greek philosophy, so I wouldn't refer to Aristotle. Though I do know it's Aristotle, and not Aristoteles.

But man, try to have some fun and people really freak out. You should visit a humanities department someday; if you think I'm nuts, try them out. Though if you're finding the internet crazy at this point, imagine how hilarious I think this is.

So, I was kinda roasting you for the sake of it, gotta admit.

I’m a law student, so I’m definitely familiar with actual insane people.

You just have bad taste in anime and I have questionable internet manners which I mask with gramatical politeness.

That’s kinda it.

I know, I could tell. But it also seemed like you knew better than everyone else, which is why I kept talking. Again, I really have no ill will here, and I don't think you do either. It was good of you to try to help Rick and Morty/Ben Shapiro guy.

I love him who is ashamed when the dice fall in his favour and who then asks: Am I then a cheat? – for he wants to perish.

Jul 31, 2023 8:25 PM

#59

auroraloose

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Isekai-Enjoyer said:

auroraloose said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:

auroraloose said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:

auroraloose said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:
So, you see…

There’s no other way to say it…

But half of your points are completely redundant and the other half is just delusional.

Of course I take everything I said seriously. And of course Dark Gathering is about a loli murdering ghosts. It is also about darkness, human relationships, and whatever else I said. The loli murdering ghosts part, along with a lot else, is why Dark Gathering is also mediocre, just as Undead Murder Farce is. Though it is not as if great literature cannot be silly, absurd, or childish.

Do you—read? Like, really read. Like Dialectic of Enlightenment read, or The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman read. That latter is a novel. Undead Murder Farce is a manga or something, I don't care. A light novel is not a novel; the preceding modifier cannot be removed. When we talk about great novels, we do not include in the discussion No Matter How I Look at It, It's You Guys' Fault I'm not Popular! (the only physical copy of a light novel I actually own).

It seems like you're espousing the incorrect and facile understanding of critiques of objectivity, as if I were saying everything is "relative." No serious philosopher thinks this. And it is Derrida himself who said that this misunderstanding is what happens when you don't read. Of course, the misunderstanding is rather entrenched in our discourse, which is why it always pops up, and part of what feeds the objectivity nonsense. The problem, as all such philosophers always, tirelessly explain, is that we tend to claim objectivity for things that are very much historical or contextual—and we also tend to do so blithely and lazily, without knowing much philosophy, such that we run into trouble because we're just not being all that careful. It used to be that eugenics was objective, and that quasicrystals were scientifically impossible—and these are just famous examples in science; imagine how much trouble objectivity run amok has caused the average person.

And if anything, what I'm doing here is generating far more categories of rigor by which things are not just subjective whim or opinion; this is far different from just whining about things being subjective. Our societal notion of intelligence is such that the hard sciences crowd everything out, and people end up being absolutely terrible at anything having to do with the humanities. Like critiques of objectivity, or understanding the contextuality of online rating systems (which you clearly do).

Finally, I adamantly do not believe things like beauty, quality, taste, and whatnot are subjective. There is good and bad art, and there is good and bad taste. It is bad that the detective genre is so popular, because it keeps people in the intellectual slums. I'm not sure how we got around to me siding with relativism when I started by claiming one anime is better than another.

I see. I am truly glad we finally came to the conclusion that some people have objectively terrible opinions about works of art.

Such as yours about a mid poorly directed show about a loli murdering ghosts.

Finally? I always start out with that opinion, and have to wring it out of people, who insist taste is subjective and how dare I say otherwise? I do truly and honestly appreciate that you come down on the side of discriminating taste.

I also really like My First Girlfriend Is a Gal and wrote many long comments about Love Flops—though, admittedly, I gave those a 6 and a 5, I think. And, to be fair, my top anime are far more conventional, so I can't double down on having shit taste, unfortunately. But anime is a trash can I eat out of, yes.

Finally.

You’ve been saying some batshit insane shit here and I definitely don’t think you’re sane.

But this last comment of yours was certainly quite commendable. Eating trash with pleasure is certainly my thing.

Good ending, I guess.

This really is the problem; i don't think you have an objective notion of the batshit insane. I suppose I will boast somewhat and say that the issue is simply that I am a highly advanced consumer of trash.

My name is Isekai-Enjoyer.

I will take any insult, but I won’t take people saying they are able to appreciate mid shows better than me.

Three of my favourite shows are isekais. No one can get me out of this hill.

I was going to say that you have met your match, but even I wouldn't claim an isekai in my top three. What are we talking, though? If you say The Vision of Escaflowne that's different, and I know there are rigorous arguments as to the definition of the isekai category. You could just be weaseling out of it here.

I love him who is ashamed when the dice fall in his favour and who then asks: Am I then a cheat? – for he wants to perish.

Jul 31, 2023 8:31 PM

#60

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auroraloose said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:

auroraloose said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:

Camacho99 said:

Isekai-Enjoyer said:
Oh, wow.

Having watched both shows, I don’t know where to even begin. This is, like, so objectively incorrect on so many ways.

You’re, like, comparing a random 6 that might reach a 7 with a lot of effort to a solid 8 that could probably reach a 9 in the future.

Technically, UGMF is actually objectively better. The production value isn’t even comparable.

As for the characters:

Detective chuunibyou? My man, I dare you not becoming this way after passing years literally just as a fucking head. People need to find something to humour themselves. Characterisation is damn near perfect. I am also seriously baffled that some people are complaining about the circus clown acting like a circus clown.

Meanwhile, Dark Gathering barely has enough production value to actually be tense. Direction is mid. Animation is below average. The protagonist has the most generic design imaginable and a somewhat self-insert personality. The loli isn’t really that interesting as well. Frankly, the only aspect holding everything together is Hanazawa Kana carrying the entire shit by playing a Yandere.

They’re not even comparable in quality. Undead Girl Murder Farce is leagues above it.

The only real praise I can give to Dark Gathering is about how it somehow feels like a 2010 anime. It has a charm to it merely because of that, and the plot is original enough to keep you entertained.

That said, quality wise, it’s just middle of the pack, while UGMF is solidly far above “mid”.

this was a completely W

Don’t even keep reading. The rest of this discussion is unironically driving me insane.

This girl is nuts. She claims that I can’t use the term “objectivity” and proceeds to explain why her opinion is objectively correct by some philosopher’s standards.

She yells at people for not reading novels and then claims a light novel isn’t a novel.

As if her knowledge about western books and philosophy made her opinion about a random ass average anime any more valuable.

Like, this is the worst part. We are discussing about the same thing, right? An anime about a random loli killing ghosts. Who the fuck is bringing Aristoteles into this? I swear the author just thought the Yandere was hot and made a mid manga about it.

Then the anime poorly adapted it and here we are.

It’s really nothing that deep. How are we even comparing this to a show with pretty deep historical representation and actual characters with existent personalities…?

The internet can be scary at times.

Okay, lol, so I'll have a little more fun if this is actually what you think. 'Cause, you know, even I am not all that great at my Greek philosophy, so I wouldn't refer to Aristotle. Though I do know it's Aristotle, and not Aristoteles.

But man, try to have some fun and people really freak out. You should visit a humanities department someday; if you think I'm nuts, try them out. Though if you're finding the internet crazy at this point, imagine how hilarious I think this is.

So, I was kinda roasting you for the sake of it, gotta admit.

I’m a law student, so I’m definitely familiar with actual insane people.

You just have bad taste in anime and I have questionable internet manners which I mask with gramatical politeness.

That’s kinda it.

I know, I could tell. But it also seemed like you knew better than everyone else, which is why I kept talking. Again, I really have no ill will here, and I don't think you do either. It was good of you to try to help Rick and Morty/Ben Shapiro guy.

Frankly, I do not consider myself someone stupid by any means. If anything, I take pride in my conversational skills. I work with this, after all, so I definitely CAN engage in good faith, like I genuinely did at first.

It’s just that…

Hell, trying to bring philosophy into a discussion about a truly average show which is mostly about a yandere being hot and a loli murdering ghosts kinda drained my initial good faith.

Not an excuse to be an ass, though. Sorry if I crossed the line with my banter here. I do admit it’s not to my tastes to roast someone behind their back.

But hey, this is a public forum, so in my defence, it WAS kinda in your face.

Either way, nah, I don’t think you’re actually insane or anything.

I do think your opinion about this is ass, though.

Jul 31, 2023 8:33 PM

#61

bahimiron

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Holy fuck, that's a lot of words I'm never gonna read.

Jul 31, 2023 8:35 PM

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