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| I really have no words to put it how great was the final, the final scenes were super satisfactory, before and after vivy sings "fluorite eye's song" and the post-credits, great final the culmination of a masterpiece of this new decade too epic man fuoah!!!! |
| BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH |
| Wtf happened ? The heck happened to this anime ? What the actual cs was happening throughout the episode ? |
Complex Stories are basically sleeping pills . Helps to get some sleep . |
| What a bittersweet ending. Vivy through all of her experiences, her decisions became more than just an A.I., she became something similar to what we define as a "human" Vivy chose of her own free will to sacrifice herself and the other A.I. to save the human race, something the Archive gave her the choice for for as she was more evolved than the Archive itself so she would logically make the better choice. Our decisions, our memories is what defines us. I think with that in mind I think the anime displayed it beautifully how Vivy evolved and the impact she had. Storytelling was great, the animation and the art were a feast to look at, this anime had it all. I think the story could've worked without time travel too as it was really about A.I. or specifically Vivy evolving (looking at Detroit Become Human for example) but it was fantastic either way. 9/10 Also I loved the songs, the final song especially just hit hard with the last few scenes. "My mission is to make everyone happy through my singing", You fulfilled your mission in life Vivy <3 |
PrOxAntoOct 7, 2023 5:09 PM
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| This anime was fantastic. I'm surprised more people haven't watched it even though it came out in 2021. Probably my favorite anime original. |
| Vivy finally dies as well. No one was safe in this anime lol. |
| Wow! Amazing original.... It was awesome despite having its flaws. |
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| Expectation from anime: Something-something Sci-Fi, androids, near future, artificial intelligence... music? Alright, sounds okay, please at least be better than Wonder Egg Priority I watched yesterday. Reality: Author simply played games 'Detroit: Become Human' and 'NieR: Automata', then watched anime 'Plastic Memories' and of course 'Ghost in the Shell'. Inspired, yeah, what a sneaky word for describing 'take freely anything you like from others and then do a superficial adaptation work' due lack of understanding of what made these games and anime good, it's basically a rewrite. Sure, this anime is better than Wonder Egg Priority as I hoped but still I watched it and saw just another generic anime with emotional manipulations at plot points where I wanted to see a brain food since it's about A.I. and sci-fi but no. The ending is just some blue ending from Mass Effect or something, MC mind was erased and now it's another person, Vivy and Diva are both dead at this rate, yeah, very optimistic. For some reason this anime reminded the one completely different in terms of genres and representation - Violet Evergarden, it was pretty depressive and slow while Vivy is pretty fast paced but the mood is kinda similar. Plus all these emotional peaks here and there made by mostly calm MCs. Both are made with a focus on some rulebook or something like that since follow clear rules and regulations. I simply don't believe that such anime made with at least small personal spark or sudden inspiration. One thing simply noticing the familiar plot twists and personality types but another thing is noticing the generic scheme of anime production with strict plan where and how put a viewer in needed mood by a emotional shock. |
LawgunMar 18, 2:34 PM
| Awesome episode and a fine way to end this show. Indeed, Vivy's singing surely made a lot of people happy. She stopped the devastating war against misanthropic AI, after all. I really enjoyed watching this anime. Impressive art and animation, as expected from Wit Studio, beautiful soundtrack, and interesting premise. At first I was reluctant to start watching, since I was worried it'd be too much music-centered, but once I gave it a try, I totally soaked in. Very solid show that's an example of how to make a good anime about music and singing that'd be inclusive enough (in terms of themes) to attract also people who might not be fans of the said genre in general. |
| I genuinely think this show is one huge bait which was hyped up way too much back when it aired and time simply proved it wasn't as big of a deal as fanboys made it out to be, considering no one really talks about Vivy anymore but to this day I still encounter people claiming Odd taxi as a modern classic and both aired the same season One thing I cannot deny is that Vivy is fun, relaxed and careless fun and that's why I still like it but the moment you try to think about the worldbuilding in itself nothing at all makes sense, and when you dig even deeper you realized there are actually no characters, no antagonist, no real plot and especially no real theme inside the show. The center of the story is AI but we never get clear explanation of how those AIs even work and what is their actual limitation as Artificial intelligence, the only thing they introduce as a getaway is "AI cannot process several missions, that's why there is a rule for only 1 mission per AI for them to function correctly" but the actual concept of those missions are so vague for most AIs none of those mission make sense. Vivy's mission is to "make everyone happy with her singing", if you take that for exactly what it is she is supposed to ONLY be able to sing and doing any other tasks would make her loses control like the test AI we saw at the beginning which couldn't both type on a keyboard and take care of a baby, but instead she basically can do anything, she has nothing making her distinct from an human, she thinks, she expresses emotions, she takes decisions, she can decide to fight or flee, her mission does not matter at all in her programming. If you take the mission metaphorically within the narrative as the "purpose" of the AI like what's the purpose of each individuals, it works perfectly fine, but inside of the world the author created intelligent AIs are just humans who do not age and who needs to do 1 job. Those intelligent AIs are really the biggest flaws in worldbuilding, the fact there is not a single moment we actually see them as what they are supposed to be, robots, make it even worse to believe there is actually discrimination towards allowing them human rights because for what we see, they are entirely humans but their robotic skeletons. For me, the most baffling element of unexplained worldbuilding are those little diode chips on their neck. We have ZERO explanation of what they are and ZERO explanation of what their light bleeping means, everything you might think is their purpose is complete headcannon as they are never referred to at any point during the serie. The existence of these diodes is simply "make difference between humans and AIs" and that's the shittiest kind of plot device you can possibly write and still there is so much insistence on those little things with SOOOOO many close-up shots you might think they have to be useful for something but nope, they are meaningless, it's simply "if chips bleep = AI has emotions" and that's it. There could have been lots of thing done with those chips; so AIs could have hidden them to appear as humans and do political manipulation for AI rights, some AIs could have advocate for the removal of those chips because it induces segregation between human and AIs, what if the light bleeping actually had reasoning was there to indentify if an AI is going rogue or not, in a way we could have shown intelligent AIs with red chip before the great war which is the only moment the light changing color matter at all. That's just one of the many component of Vivy which is completely ignored in the sake of more action or melodrama babbling and all those incoherences just make the show feel so much less grounded in pure sci-fi, you just feel like most of the tech is magic. Matsumoto is a computer program from 2160 sent back into the past, how does he get a physical form? The sole reason he took control of a teddy bear is because the tech wasn't evolved enough at that point in the past so how does he get that ultra advanced cube body this early in the show? Why is the Archive in Vivy's perspective a music classroom for any reason but because the plot requiring her to compose a song later on, something she wasn't created for ? On what energy source does intelligent AIs operate ? If it's simply elecricity, why there was no use of IEM bombs whatsoever from TOAK or as a contingence program if AI went rogue as they fucking ended up doing? If it's not electricity, what is it and what is this blue blood they have and why it exists for anything else but looking cool during some shots. Considering how easily TOAK got defeated during the whole floating AI island arc, how in the fuck did they managed to hijack the Sunrise IN SPACE with little to no troops shown, are there even AI guards on a gigantic tourism spacestation? When escaping the Sunrise, why does Vivy wears a space helmet, those machines can breathe ? If the Sisters need breathing and have a pulmonary system due to them being songstresses, why breathing intense amount of fire smokes during Sunrise's destructions doesn't kill them right away? Why is Elisabeth the only AI with her data saved to put it into another clone body? Why is the TOAK chief the only human we see turning himself into a cyborg and this concept was never brought up again? Why, when we see the POV of a machine, either be Vivy, the little M205 robot, or Antonio, they ALL have the same HUD and interface even despite being from widly different eras ? In real life we change HUD every year of a device with updates, sometimes months. Why is Matsumoto the only AI able of effective hacking ? Surely TOAK would have make use of hacking in their 100+ year terrorist war agains the AIs, but all of them are useless foot soldiers. What is the point of using Grace body to manage the big AI citadel? She's an AI, her consciousness can be uploaded into anything. I'm even more concerned why is her naked body needs to just be half inside a gigantic ball core and the other half hanging outside of it, especially stupid when attacking her body destroys the entire facility. The fact that she's naked is already pretty anime shit if you want my opinion but wouldn't it be more logical for her to be entirely INSIDE the whole core except for having cool imagery when Vivy kills her? This one is abhorrent: If after getting rebooted past witnessing Saeki's suicide, Vivy now Diva has amnesia and doesn't remember her actions from before, why does she still remembers when she was performing on that small stage at Nialand when explaining to Ophelia her past, at a point when she was still Vivy ? If Vivy is stated to be the FIRST intelligent AI, why does she end up being some bum robot singing songs in a small booth in a random amusement park in japan ? Why do we never see actual maintenance of intelligent AIs ? Despite what that hack Tappei might think, robot do not age but mechanical parts can break down, especially in ONE HUNDRED YEARS. Why is there never a moment where we see an update of Vivy's components in an entire century of her existing ? Are intelligent AIs mass produced ? We never get a clue but it feel like they are still important money and technological investments but humans still throw Beth in the garbage dump like she was a deficient washing machine and not an ultra advanced robot. WHY IS THERE NO WORLDWIDE CONTINGENT PLAN IF AIS WERE TO GO ROGUE ???!!! You tell me the ENTIRE WORLD has enough confidence in japan to let them build a gigantic datatower with complete control over every AIs in activity as their collective hivemind ?! This HAS to be explained when you write the whole world going into war afterwards and not strictly japan. This is only surface level complaints but see there are many, I could go on about the characters has to why does Matsumoto always wake up like 24 hours before the singularity point and always end up creating more conflicts which could have been avoided if him and Vivy had more time to prepare and also how does Vivy's body managed to sustain this amount of damage when removing the head of an intelligent AI kills them instantely and that in 2160 she's an hundred years old model who'd never be able to face machine of this era, it's like thinking a car from a century ago could outspeed a car from nowadays. I feel like I had to write this, not for people but for me, in this way I can really disentangle in my mind the real issues of this clearly overrated but fun show. |
James-LastOmnicSep 10, 2:00 PM
| Excellent anime, glad i saw it. I usually don't like singing and "emotional" animes, but when is so well made is hard to not enjoy it. My interpretation of the ending is: - Matsumoto pretty clearly survived, he was mostly intact at the end... - Matsumoto brought her back with normal memories, so she could finally find piece. - Matsumoto wanted to hear her perform live, so now he can. |
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