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Jan 8, 2023 8:33 AM
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First episode he likes two girls in Santa suits…. I doubt this will be Yaoi….
Jan 8, 2023 9:04 AM
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Thankfully no or it would be in an instant drop for me.
I watch anime to get away from the backslapping, virtue signalling constantly seen in westerns shows.
Jan 8, 2023 11:54 AM

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The dude is straight. Until we’re shown otherwise saying he’s bi is literally copium. 

Jan 8, 2023 1:06 PM
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Blazer28 said:
mshfqtny said:
i never said i can't handle two dudes. I said i don't prefer a story where two dudes are in a sexual relationship. That's why I asked.
And this is the only anime ever where I asked whether that's a bl or not. And I also stated why I'm asking specifically for this anime.
You're just an idiot if you don't understand that.
Or if you're arguing just for the sake of arguing then please don't.
If you don't like me then ignore me. I don't care.

Edit: I never said anything baf about bl.
I think I stated it multiple times that It is not my preference.
It doesn't make you a homophobe if you don like bl.
Not liking bl and not liking LGBTQ community isn't the same thing.

And man, i watch gl!
I think it's a common like assumption to make (people who don't like bl don't like gay people/are homophobic). I can see where it's coming from but I don't agree with it. The idea is that it shouldn't matter if the romantic interests are gay or not, having a problem with so would be deemed as homophobic behaviour. I think that people can have their likes and dislikes about these things e.g I'm a gay person who reads a lot of BL but I don't like GL. That doesn't make me homophobic towards lesbians or whatnot, it's just preference as you say. 

But anyways, this show will definitely not turn out to be a BL. It would have been advertised and tagged as one if it was supposed to be (which it has not been). 

My problem is never with the gay pairings, it's with delusional fans who see gay everywhere when it's not actually there. I like canon gay pairings when the author makes it clear that yes, those characters ARE supposed to like each other. What I despise are delusional fans ruining wholesome same sex friendships by seeing gay everywhere. Not everything has to be sexual guys.
Jan 8, 2023 3:45 PM
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Again I don't mind what their sexual orientation is. That's up to the production crew, but must we have the "which is the best orientation for a series like this? bi, gay or straight" debate? Can't we just leave that to the anime director or scriptwriter? Also it's only the first episode.

Lastly, there are some cases where parents are on the aromantic spectrum. You don't have to be romantic or sexual to your other partner, especially when both sides want to become parents and adopt a kid. Queerplatonic relationship is another way to describe aromantic feelings between two people of whichever gender and sexual orientation.
Jan 8, 2023 4:06 PM
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If it's not, I'll make a gay version of Spy x Family out of it haha
Jan 8, 2023 7:37 PM
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I ship them but I doubt it's gonna be 100% explicitly canon since it wasn't marketed as a bl. Will have to resort to fanfic for this one. Good show so far regardless though.
Jan 8, 2023 7:42 PM
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I know this is supposed to be a discussion but outside of the conversation and after watching episode 1:

No.  If anything, they'll go the BL-baiting route because of their situation.  Going into the show, I would have liked for them to be together and go through some romance (it would have been fun) but after episode 1, I'm pretty certain that isn't going to happen.  The blonde guy is a full-on womanizer and the other guy doesn't really care.  The show seems more focused on them stumbling through taking care of Miri while doing their jobs. 
Jan 8, 2023 10:19 PM

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anyway, these mfs gay. good for them
Jan 9, 2023 1:15 AM

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Likely a wannabe for previous popular childcare anime.
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Jan 9, 2023 1:19 AM
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Nope lmao did you even watch the episode?
Jan 9, 2023 2:57 AM
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I ma laughing here, but I also thought it was going to be an yaoi from the title alone. Guess its a bad case of not understanding the English language slang instead.
Jan 9, 2023 10:20 AM

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Lord-of-Chaos said:
I ma laughing here, but I also thought it was going to be an yaoi from the title alone. Guess its a bad case of not understanding the English language slang instead.
Exactly the problem here.
Jan 9, 2023 10:31 AM

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 its always entertaining how some people come out when an anime has two male mcs. like wtf lmao "i dont like watching two males kissing" yeah i wonder why? lmao
i hope they get together btw.
Jan 9, 2023 6:18 PM
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mshfqtny said:
Those who watched the 1st ep, does it seem like a yaoi?

I like P. A. Works so i wanna watch it, but if it's yaoi then I'll skip it.

I doubt it. The fans who anticipated this show ASSUMED and made up their own assumptions on the show. Way to many people called it "Gay SxF" when we really had no conformation. Now we got folks saying its baiting.
Jan 9, 2023 6:44 PM

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Nope, just some people making out stuff that such things are gay, when in reality, it's not. It usually happens nowadays, people lewding or sexualizing the characters to fit their own satisfaction.
It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
Jan 9, 2023 6:48 PM

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Why do people automatically assume that a series with two male protagonists has to be a yaoi? That's like saying that "a guy having a close male friend means he's gay". It's such a ridiculous rationale and I'm surprised that this even has to be asked when that Kazuki guy is clearly a womanizer.
Jan 9, 2023 6:49 PM

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Nah. The formula of "two dudes caring for a kid" has been done before; there was a sitcom back in the 90s called My Two Dads.
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Jan 9, 2023 7:44 PM

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Seems like nitroplus is working on this so maybe it's gonna be a bunch of implied things but most likely nothing canon
Jan 9, 2023 7:46 PM

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astralkill00 said:
Nope, just some people making out stuff that such things are gay, when in reality, it's not. It usually happens nowadays, people lewding or sexualizing the characters to fit their own satisfaction.
hate to break it to you but liking dudes isn't inherently sexual
Jan 9, 2023 8:59 PM

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I'll wait until the series is done airing, and if I see news of the MCs fucking (Or first base, that works too), then I'll watch it. A major turn off of BL/Yaoi anime is the genres over reliance on rape as a plot progression tool, and the more of that genre of anime that coming out, the more opportunities there are to finally shake that stigma for good.

Of course, it could also just be a dumb comedy anime with zero romance subtext.😛
Jan 9, 2023 9:22 PM

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The blonde guy isn’t gay, so I doubt it. Probably won’t stop the shippers tho.
Jan 9, 2023 9:24 PM

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Napalmivanukas said:
Everything doesn't need to be gay either, and it doesn't make me or anyone else homophobic if i wanna watch something wholesome without thinking or trying to ship some guys or girls together. It kinda pisses me off actually, it feels like every hetero person is always questioned if they even breathe in the same room with someone they share same sex. And again nothing against any gay people but sometimes i hope people would chill about all that kind of stuff and just enjoy the show.

Most sane comment I’ve seen in a while. Good take man
Jan 9, 2023 9:40 PM

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Animillion said:
Napalmivanukas said:
Everything doesn't need to be gay either, and it doesn't make me or anyone else homophobic if i wanna watch something wholesome without thinking or trying to ship some guys or girls together. It kinda pisses me off actually, it feels like every hetero person is always questioned if they even breathe in the same room with someone they share same sex. And again nothing against any gay people but sometimes i hope people would chill about all that kind of stuff and just enjoy the show.

Most sane comment I’ve seen in a while. Good take man


Glad to see i'm not the only one in here. Thanks for commenting bro
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Jan 10, 2023 9:21 AM
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Homoromanticism of Banana Fish like stories are great. Just hope whatever it is, the relationship is plot relevant and not forced. 
Jan 10, 2023 4:51 PM

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I'm fine with whatever relationship the two leads have. The draw for me is a couple of badasses raising a kid.


I think there is no problem in wanting them to be a couple if that's the impression people got. I've watched and liked BL so I'm fine with a gay relationship.  And there is nothing wrong with wanting it to be a buddy show either. I think those going eww I don't want Yaoi need to chill a bit though. 
Jan 11, 2023 8:20 AM
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I think the story is bromance. Who knows maybe yaoi will happen
Jan 11, 2023 8:48 AM

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callulu said:
My god, the people who are so ridiculous and use the word yaoi like it's the official term for gay relationships. At least ask if it's BL, not yaoi. There's a reason yaoi has a bad rep in both the east and the west and it shouldn't be used in a conversation the way most of you are using it.

Also people talking about how having gay anime characters just adds to the whole fetishisation ordeal, have you actually considered the complications of baiting (I'm referring to baiting used in other anime)? So what, do we just remove LGBTQ+ characters all together to avoid fetishisation? We'll have to delete character's hands and feet next, there's people out there ogling those too. Also some of the people here wanting the main characters to possibly get together are likely LGBTQ+. So how are they fetishising?

And then all the people who are like "I'm not homophobic" but says something mildly insulting and/or homophobic. Other users are literally making comments about wanting some representation by having the characters turn out to be bi/gay written in a very natural way with a plot and story that doesn't focus on their sexual identities and instead focuses on the actual story. In what way is that bad? And why are you all so offended by others wanting some good representation for once? Do you realise how toxic the majority of actual yaoi is (and I use the term yaoi here in it's actual form, NOT an all encompassing term for gay relationships in anime)? So of course it'd be god damn nice to have some good representation for once.

And yes, not everything has to be gay like some of you are commenting. If they get together then that's cool. If they stay buddies, then that's cool too. It was just people commenting how it'd be nice to have some decent rep that isn't toxic and wasn't plot central or how they'd just like it if they got together. But coming here and being mildly homophobic, using terms you don't know how to use, talking about fetishisation the way you are without any of the other implications or having some actual thought process, shouldn't be on.


BL, Yaoi, shounen ai, Bara, etc....

It's all the same thing and all still gay.
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Jan 11, 2023 4:53 PM

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Not yet but my gaydar tells me there will be a homo sex scene next episode.
Jan 12, 2023 5:28 PM
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My god you people are acting like the Genshin impact fandom

Suddenly 2 guys living together and taking care of a kid = Gay and if you disagree you are suddenly homophobic.
It literally doesn't matter
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Jan 13, 2023 12:57 AM

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If it doesn't say it in the tag, then it's not. I don't think y'all know what yaoi means, but as soon as you see a maybe suggestive title and two male leads, you start jumping to conclusions. 
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Jan 13, 2023 12:08 PM

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mshfqtny said:
Those who watched the 1st ep, does it seem like a yaoi?

I like P. A. Works so i wanna watch it, but if it's yaoi then I'll skip it.
No, it isn't a yaoi. You can watch this series freely without any fears.
Jan 13, 2023 9:57 PM

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It will be just another queer-bait show if any ''fan service'' happens. Currently the 2 main male characters are friends/roommates who work together.Also, the blond dude seems to be obviously  Straight.
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Jan 13, 2023 10:17 PM
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if you think it's yaoi then you have wrong judgement issues . i mean how can it be yaoi living 2 guy in same roof doesn't make it yaoi
Jan 13, 2023 10:30 PM

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I doubt it. Seems to just be a two dudes with a kid comedy type beat. I still think it's funny to refer to it as the gay spy x family though
Jan 14, 2023 4:46 AM
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P. A. works has a history of making progressive stories and some of them have strongly implied same sex relationship undertones (fairy gone two main girls and appare ranman two main dudes). so it wouldn't be a stretch to think they would at least heavily imply the same thing with the two dudes here. Not to mention the director does talk abt same sex co-parenting, abt their relationship changing and he wants to get to the point where they look like a married couple.
Jan 14, 2023 7:45 AM

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Whether it is or not, what I understand from the synopsis is that they are two men raising a girl, so I intuit that BL is not the center of this story but of raising a child.

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Jan 14, 2023 8:52 AM

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It is ABSOLUTELY NOT a Yaoi. After watching 2 episodes, I state it for sure.
Jan 15, 2023 9:51 AM
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2 guys being friends doesn't mean they are fucking each other period.

Jan 15, 2023 11:12 AM
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eightdollarwater said:
But this is the exact point I'm making, being gay isn't a qualitive trait. It doesn't make characters more three dimensional or interesting. Being a GOOD character and having good writing is what makes them interesting. Gay FOR the sake of gay does nothing for anyone except appease fetishists or those who are obsessed with seeing something gay on screen ONLY because it's gay.

I agree with this. If they go with that direction, it really needs to make sense. Otherwise, it's just some tokenism bs and a disrespect to people who are genuinely in that kind of relationship. Because as it is, nothing points out to them going that way because (surprise surprise) two people of the same sex can also co-exist without any sexual relationship.
Jan 15, 2023 2:09 PM
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after reading the comments I'd just like to say it really would be nice to get some nice BL time to time. we still don't know yet what this show is tho. and for those who think sleeping with many girls can't make a guy gay didn't read yaoi mangas for sure. half of those are full with dudes banging chicks every night but then they turn gay for one guy. but also bisexuals and pansexuals exist. 
Jan 15, 2023 4:13 PM

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they are a hand picked assassin team. it would make sense they would live together. trying to turn it into BL just because of that one fact is like saying i'm gay because i had a roommate once.
Jan 15, 2023 5:26 PM
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Can’t two guys, two girls or a guy and a girl ever just be friends without constantly being questioned if they’re together or are going to end up together? If anything I find that way more interesting then just shoehorning a romantic relationship just for the sake of it. Friendship dynamics are fun to watch, and can be just as meaningful and endearing as romantic ones. Sorry, this wasn’t aimed at op, I was just reading the comments and just wanted to throw my opinion in there. From the looks of it, it’s definitely not a yaoi. If people want to ship them, that’s completely fine, the only problem arises when toxic fans take it too far by attacking the creators and shoving it down their throats and making them feel like they have to make it canon, which usually never works anyway, people that do that are completely wasting their time and the creators. If the creator wanted to make them a couple on their own accord within their own vision for the characters then, that’s great. No one should be forced or feel like they have to because of fans. That’s just ridiculous, people should just enjoy the show for what it is and if they don’t like the direction it’s going in, move on.
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