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Nov 2, 2022 5:13 AM
#51
Anime fans thinks being good is a linear pathway. That there's only one way to be amazing and that's more pretty animation and background. Which is why when you tell them it doesn't work for CSM at times they get confused and upset. I think the direction MAPPA takes ruins the comedy at certain moments. Like, the scene where the cat goes to a veterinary hospital. I reread the chapter after the episode and laughed a bit when it happened in the manga. I didn't even realize it was meant to be a little funny moment in the anime with how it was directed |
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Nov 2, 2022 5:15 AM
#53
@Preachee [/quote] I wouldn't say he's "making fun" of the hard work. He was only criticizing what he thought was a valid criticism. When you release art, despite your hard work, you can't expect everyone to like it simply because you've worked hard on it. In fact it's not just art, it goes with everything else as well. Just because someone works hard on something doesn't mean I can't discredit it as "cheap", if I really think it is. [quote] That’s not even a valid criticism to begin with when doesn’t even know what’s 2D and 3D. Are you a numbskull? Do you even know what he claimed and it was totally false which also makes his statement “cheap” invalid. Those who work hard and produce a good product doesn’t need to be called as cheap when it’s not in the first place. If I’m against it why your butt is burning is that your Alt acc?? I think that’s the case. |
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Nov 2, 2022 5:19 AM
#54
Diaper something something shitstains on the wall something |
Nov 2, 2022 5:20 AM
#55
Iloveggs said: @Preachee I wouldn't say he's "making fun" of the hard work. He was only criticizing what he thought was a valid criticism. When you release art, despite your hard work, you can't expect everyone to like it simply because you've worked hard on it. In fact it's not just art, it goes with everything else as well. Just because someone works hard on something doesn't mean I can't discredit it as "cheap", if I really think it is. That’s not even a valid criticism to begin with when doesn’t even know what’s 2D and 3D. Are you a numbskull? Do you even know what he claimed and it was totally false which also makes his statement “cheap” invalid. Those who work hard and produce a good product doesn’t need to be called as cheap when it’s not in the first place. If I’m against it why your butt is burning is that your Alt acc?? I think that’s the case. Hey hey, first of all make the quote proper. And my alt account is very valuable to me >:( (my alt has watched the show but I haven't so gotta update that too). "I think that's the case" should suffice, no need to call me a numbskull to make your point across. I couldn't care less about whatever you're arguing about. I guess I just feel heroic today, wouldn't you say? |
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Nov 2, 2022 5:23 AM
#56
Preachee said: I wouldn't say he's "making fun" of the hard work. He was only criticizing what he thought was a valid criticism. When you release art, despite your hard work, you can't expect everyone to like it simply because you've worked hard on it. In fact it's not just art, it goes with everything else as well. Just because someone works hard on something doesn't mean I can't discredit it as "cheap", if I really think it is. That’s not even a valid criticism to begin with when doesn’t even know what’s 2D and 3D. Are you a numbskull? Do you even know what he claimed and it was totally false which also makes his statement “cheap” invalid. Those who work hard and produce a good product doesn’t need to be called as cheap when it’s not in the first place. If I’m against it why your butt is burning is that your Alt acc?? I think that’s the case. Hey hey, first of all make the quote proper. And my alt account is very valuable to me >:( (my alt has watched the show but I haven't so gotta update that too). "I think that's the case" should suffice, no need to call me a numbskull to make your point across. I couldn't care less about whatever you're arguing about. I guess I just feel heroic today, wouldn't you say? Nah you look like clown who’s jumping in a conversation just to be clowned and that was a “jest” if you are taking what I said seriously and feeling heroic go on Mr clown |
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Nov 2, 2022 5:25 AM
#57
Iloveggs said: Preachee said: I wouldn't say he's "making fun" of the hard work. He was only criticizing what he thought was a valid criticism. When you release art, despite your hard work, you can't expect everyone to like it simply because you've worked hard on it. In fact it's not just art, it goes with everything else as well. Just because someone works hard on something doesn't mean I can't discredit it as "cheap", if I really think it is. That’s not even a valid criticism to begin with when doesn’t even know what’s 2D and 3D. Are you a numbskull? Do you even know what he claimed and it was totally false which also makes his statement “cheap” invalid. Those who work hard and produce a good product doesn’t need to be called as cheap when it’s not in the first place. If I’m against it why your butt is burning is that your Alt acc?? I think that’s the case. Hey hey, first of all make the quote proper. And my alt account is very valuable to me >:( (my alt has watched the show but I haven't so gotta update that too). "I think that's the case" should suffice, no need to call me a numbskull to make your point across. I couldn't care less about whatever you're arguing about. I guess I just feel heroic today, wouldn't you say? Nah you look like clown who’s jumping in a conversation just to be clowned and that was a “jest” if you are taking what I said seriously and feeling heroic go on Mr clown Clown? But I was looking so cool? wym bro Hey hey, ask me this. Which kind of MAL users are the easiest to instigate and poke fun at? (btw it's not me hehe) |
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Nov 2, 2022 5:26 AM
#58
Preachee said: Iloveggs said: Preachee said: Iloveggs said: incelskiller667 said: Dafrek said: zarrapha said: There's no way you think everything is rotoscoped Where did I used the word "everything"? oO This is why we can't have a conversation here, already going extreme! I gave examples of sequences that look like rotoscoping, the Hollywood movies references in the opening in particular. I need to rewatch the episode to remember the other weird sequences I noticed. Rotoscoping or not. My point is that some animations and expressions look too fluid and detailed for an anime style design, to the point it falls into the uncanny valley. Reference video as you showed is mandatory for all animators, and that's not what I'm pointing out. The result of the example you've shown still looks creative, imperfect and human-made. Some frames and dynamics are simplified. What bothers me in some CSM sequences, is that it looks too real and detailed. Hand-made or not, it doesn't suit well to see anime characters (or any cartoon) move too realistically, it's uncanny. This is why studios like Pixar have animators, instead of just using motion capture even though they could afford it Also, some CSM facial expressions/animations look way too fluid, yet rigid at the same time. This is not anime-like, this is weird. You can feel the 3D limitations, while 2D allows you to deform/distort/exagerate elements Sorry for pointing that out, maybe there are some good ideas and intentions in that whole experiment, but it's clearly not fully mastered yet, I have a personal preference for the regular hand drawn animation so I have the right to have a negative opinion about CSM adaptation. It's not like I come here without any argument just to say "it sucks". It's just my opinion. My opinion is not supreme (unless you want it to be) bro you gave CSM 2 but still have the energy to write essay about it, you either a troll or a hater, that is why people cant take this site and animes fans in general seriously. Don’t waste your time he doesn’t even know what he is speaking about and I can see his each and every statement doesn’t even make any sense infact his fav anime demon slayer matches all those criticism he is putting on chainsawman animation. Irony sigh Why though? The guy was being pretty nice and this is how you responded to him? Mf even said he has preference and that his opinion is not supreme, tf you want more XD He has the energy to write it because he has the energy to write it. If you have nothing better to say, don't say anything. Otherwise might as well respond to his ass. Nice ?? In what way ? all those animator’s who are working their but off to draw 2k + detailed frames for every episode and here this lowlife saying they are doing cheap trick’s when he doesn’t even have a clue all those detailed drawings are 2D. His opinion is totally false and literally making fun out of animator’s I wouldn't say he's "making fun" of the hard work. He was only criticizing what he thought was a valid criticism. When you release art, despite your hard work, you can't expect everyone to like it simply because you've worked hard on it. In fact it's not just art, it goes with everything else as well. Just because someone works hard on something doesn't mean I can't discredit it as "cheap", if I really think it is. Also I'd like to change the word 'nice' to being open enough to a conversation. The matter of whether he's right or not wouldn't normally receive with such animosity considering he seems amicable enough. Oh well. It is what it is. all those words mean nothing; just seem to me like you want to feel intelligent and well spoken when it facts you just came for your hater buddy rescue, i can feel the hate from you too lol; but you wanna be the bigger person. |
Nov 2, 2022 5:29 AM
#59
incelskiller667 said: Preachee said: Iloveggs said: Preachee said: Iloveggs said: incelskiller667 said: Dafrek said: zarrapha said: There's no way you think everything is rotoscoped Where did I used the word "everything"? oO This is why we can't have a conversation here, already going extreme! I gave examples of sequences that look like rotoscoping, the Hollywood movies references in the opening in particular. I need to rewatch the episode to remember the other weird sequences I noticed. Rotoscoping or not. My point is that some animations and expressions look too fluid and detailed for an anime style design, to the point it falls into the uncanny valley. Reference video as you showed is mandatory for all animators, and that's not what I'm pointing out. The result of the example you've shown still looks creative, imperfect and human-made. Some frames and dynamics are simplified. What bothers me in some CSM sequences, is that it looks too real and detailed. Hand-made or not, it doesn't suit well to see anime characters (or any cartoon) move too realistically, it's uncanny. This is why studios like Pixar have animators, instead of just using motion capture even though they could afford it Also, some CSM facial expressions/animations look way too fluid, yet rigid at the same time. This is not anime-like, this is weird. You can feel the 3D limitations, while 2D allows you to deform/distort/exagerate elements Sorry for pointing that out, maybe there are some good ideas and intentions in that whole experiment, but it's clearly not fully mastered yet, I have a personal preference for the regular hand drawn animation so I have the right to have a negative opinion about CSM adaptation. It's not like I come here without any argument just to say "it sucks". It's just my opinion. My opinion is not supreme (unless you want it to be) bro you gave CSM 2 but still have the energy to write essay about it, you either a troll or a hater, that is why people cant take this site and animes fans in general seriously. Don’t waste your time he doesn’t even know what he is speaking about and I can see his each and every statement doesn’t even make any sense infact his fav anime demon slayer matches all those criticism he is putting on chainsawman animation. Irony sigh Why though? The guy was being pretty nice and this is how you responded to him? Mf even said he has preference and that his opinion is not supreme, tf you want more XD He has the energy to write it because he has the energy to write it. If you have nothing better to say, don't say anything. Otherwise might as well respond to his ass. Nice ?? In what way ? all those animator’s who are working their but off to draw 2k + detailed frames for every episode and here this lowlife saying they are doing cheap trick’s when he doesn’t even have a clue all those detailed drawings are 2D. His opinion is totally false and literally making fun out of animator’s I wouldn't say he's "making fun" of the hard work. He was only criticizing what he thought was a valid criticism. When you release art, despite your hard work, you can't expect everyone to like it simply because you've worked hard on it. In fact it's not just art, it goes with everything else as well. Just because someone works hard on something doesn't mean I can't discredit it as "cheap", if I really think it is. Also I'd like to change the word 'nice' to being open enough to a conversation. The matter of whether he's right or not wouldn't normally receive with such animosity considering he seems amicable enough. Oh well. It is what it is. all those words mean nothing; just seem to me like you want to see intelligent and well spoken when it facts you just came for you hater buddy rescue, i can feel the hate from you too lol; but you wanna be the bigger person. No I don't just "wanna be" the bigger person, I am one. Here lemme "preach" to you the most valuable life lesson. You see, the moment you start insulting someone so incessantly, no matter what you say you will just look like the smaller person regardless. |
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Nov 2, 2022 6:46 AM
#60
will y'all be satisfied with PowerPoint slides from now on? Every anime in the future will be released with PowerPoint presentation as the template. The voice acting will be done like reading a book and the pages will be turned slowly with crazy ass fade in animation |
Nov 2, 2022 7:07 AM
#61
are most of yall this bored like seriously |
Nov 2, 2022 8:07 AM
#62
The CSM Fandom is unbelievable lmao, meanwhile, there's guys out there unironically fine with Hoshi no Samidare's top tier sakuga ms paint animation |
Nov 2, 2022 8:30 AM
#63
no, this is everything I wanted from a battle shounen and more |
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Nov 2, 2022 9:27 AM
#64
Dunno, it feels weird ever now and then but I like that (: |
Nov 2, 2022 9:37 AM
#65
After demon slayer raised the bar for seasonal anime, CSM is coming in to raise it even higher. Its great to see this level of quality, but i hope it doesnt burn animators out like before when anime eyes started getting too crazy and became a burden to animators. |
Nov 2, 2022 9:54 AM
#66
xZabuzax said: Bhaskar_Singh said: I prefer when shows don't rely much on gag humour. For real, I hate gag comedy with passion, FMAB has a lot of gag comedy and that's one of the reasons I hated that anime, and to make it worse FMAB has a shitty timing with that gag comedy, it happened a lot in serious moments or in inappropriate times and I hated it. That gag comedy bullshit simply ruins an anime for me. I like comedy done correctly, so far this anime is doing a pretty good job with the comedy and I'm liking it, sure, the tits-fondling comedy is repetitive, and it's making me smirk here and there, however, it's not the best comedy this anime is offering, IMHO this anime is doing a pretty damn good job with the comedy when they are hanging around in the house and this happened in episode 2 & 4, those are the type of comedy that I love and this anime is doing it right, it's making me laugh a lot in those moments and I appreciate when an anime gets the comedy right without relying on those fucking gag comedy bullshit which I hate. If the booba gag is your biggest problem with CSM, fear not my friend cuz that's going to come to its conclusion in the next episode and never to happen again. |
Nov 2, 2022 9:56 AM
#67
Dafrek said: Imo Chainsaw Man is far away from reaching the uncanny valley. If you want to see true uncanny valley in anime, look at Aku no Hana's anime.zarrapha said: There's no way you think everything is rotoscoped Where did I used the word "everything"? oO This is why we can't have a conversation here, already going extreme! I gave examples of sequences that look like rotoscoping, the Hollywood movies references in the opening in particular. I need to rewatch the episode to remember the other weird sequences I noticed. Rotoscoping or not. My point is that some animations and expressions look too fluid and detailed for an anime style design, to the point it falls into the uncanny valley. Reference video as you showed is mandatory for all animators, and that's not what I'm pointing out. The result of the example you've shown still looks creative, imperfect and human-made. Some frames and dynamics are simplified. What bothers me in some CSM sequences, is that it looks too real and detailed. Hand-made or not, it doesn't suit well to see anime characters (or any cartoon) move too realistically, it's uncanny. This is why studios like Pixar have animators, instead of just using motion capture even though they could afford it Also, some CSM facial expressions/animations look way too fluid, yet rigid at the same time. This is not anime-like, this is weird. You can feel the 3D limitations, while 2D allows you to deform/distort/exagerate elements Sorry for pointing that out, maybe there are some good ideas and intentions in that whole experiment, but it's clearly not fully mastered yet, I have a personal preference for the regular hand drawn animation so I have the right to have a negative opinion about CSM adaptation. It's not like I come here without any argument just to say "it sucks". It's just my opinion. My opinion is not supreme (unless you want it to be) It's understandable that you find the realistic motions in Chainsaw Man odd; it's intentional since the director wants to mimic live action movies. There's also a possibility that you're just not used to animation that's similar to camera footage. I think that the animation and expressions being too fluid need some time to get used to on your part. They also really like to alternate between framerates, and it starts to look odd when you focus on it too much. |
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Nov 2, 2022 10:18 AM
#68
who gives a fuck about chirping birds and shit though. never noticed it |
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Nov 2, 2022 10:36 AM
#69
sonu711 said: moeshit is not "realistic" in any capacity Psycho_Goku said: Ambient sounds and chirping birds often playing in the background, muted colors inside the city, toned down voice acting, mostly realistic facial expressions, highly detailed art and backgrounds, detailed character designs that always stay on model, always present shading, almost weirdly detailed cloth animation, constant use of film-like angles, etc. Chainsaw Man almost feels like an animated live-action show rather than an "anime" at some times. The CSM director Ryu Nakayama has stated that he wants to make CSM realistic like a live-action show. Is Mappa going too far with this approach or do you think all of this is fine? it's not the only anime to be that realistic. Every Kyoani anime is similar or better in being realistic |
Nov 2, 2022 10:41 AM
#70
Some of ya'll are too easily pleased (at least in calling CSM the "best ever" at anything) or don't have a large enough sample size to draw upon. It looks great. It really does. But it's not the best animated anime I've ever seen. OP mentioned facial expressions which off the top of my head feel very average while the backdrops, environments and shading/lighting among other things though all look very good to the eye. |
Nov 2, 2022 11:15 AM
#71
I mean... It looks pretty, but "Chainsaw Man" isn't exactly a series that I would want to look pretty and if it isn't that'll ruin it for me. Given the way they've adapted previous series, I knew going in that the anime wasn't going to stay completely true to the manga art style (and this isn't just a MAPPA thing either), but I don't think it would harm "Chainsaw Man" at all to look more like the manga. I'm seeing that the director is getting harassed for his decisions and that sucks, but I question his decision to make the anime "realistic like a live-action show" because then what's the point? Animation and live action are different and there's so much about the animated medium that they can be embracing more (er, embracing more in a way that they aren't). I wouldn't mind as much if it made more sense to have "Chainsaw Man" be a series more grounded in reality, because that certainly would suit certain series out there, but I don't think this is one of them. At the end of the day, it's all a bunch of creative differences, but I can't help thinking that it would've been something else if this was more like what Studio BONES did and are doing for "Mob Psycho 100." At least make the anime more colorful the way the manga covers are. It's clear that a lot of work is going to the anime but I wish that energy had been focused in a different direction. |
Nov 2, 2022 12:10 PM
#72
Honestly, I think this style really works. Fujimoto always drew a lot of inspiration from live-action movies and CSM's adaptation doing so makes a lot of sense. |
Nov 2, 2022 1:02 PM
#73
Nov 2, 2022 1:38 PM
#74
I'm not just fine with it, I absolutely love it. I don't really mind that the anime differs in tone to the manga. CSM is easily one of the most gorgeous anime I have ever seen and I sure hope the director won't be discouraged to continue the adaptation like this after all the shit he is getting. |
Nov 2, 2022 2:22 PM
#75
isn't fujimoto a big fan of movies? he's also taken part of this anime's production so it makes sense why he's going for a live action movie type visuals. |
Nov 2, 2022 3:03 PM
#76
Yelltah said: xZabuzax said: Bhaskar_Singh said: I prefer when shows don't rely much on gag humour. For real, I hate gag comedy with passion, FMAB has a lot of gag comedy and that's one of the reasons I hated that anime, and to make it worse FMAB has a shitty timing with that gag comedy, it happened a lot in serious moments or in inappropriate times and I hated it. That gag comedy bullshit simply ruins an anime for me. I like comedy done correctly, so far this anime is doing a pretty good job with the comedy and I'm liking it, sure, the tits-fondling comedy is repetitive, and it's making me smirk here and there, however, it's not the best comedy this anime is offering, IMHO this anime is doing a pretty damn good job with the comedy when they are hanging around in the house and this happened in episode 2 & 4, those are the type of comedy that I love and this anime is doing it right, it's making me laugh a lot in those moments and I appreciate when an anime gets the comedy right without relying on those fucking gag comedy bullshit which I hate. If the booba gag is your biggest problem with CSM, fear not my friend cuz that's going to come to its conclusion in the next episode and never to happen again. The booba gag is not my biggest problem at all, it's repetitive and it's not the best comedy around but it's not that bad either, it did make me smirk a couple of times, that being said, I rather have this anime not rely on that booba gag too much since it will get too repetitive, just like FMAB with those Edward short jokes which I hated, that shit was too repetitive there. But boy, that comedy when they are around the house is golden, I want them to keep that up. |
Nov 2, 2022 5:24 PM
#77
xZabuzax said: Yelltah said: xZabuzax said: Bhaskar_Singh said: I prefer when shows don't rely much on gag humour. For real, I hate gag comedy with passion, FMAB has a lot of gag comedy and that's one of the reasons I hated that anime, and to make it worse FMAB has a shitty timing with that gag comedy, it happened a lot in serious moments or in inappropriate times and I hated it. That gag comedy bullshit simply ruins an anime for me. I like comedy done correctly, so far this anime is doing a pretty good job with the comedy and I'm liking it, sure, the tits-fondling comedy is repetitive, and it's making me smirk here and there, however, it's not the best comedy this anime is offering, IMHO this anime is doing a pretty damn good job with the comedy when they are hanging around in the house and this happened in episode 2 & 4, those are the type of comedy that I love and this anime is doing it right, it's making me laugh a lot in those moments and I appreciate when an anime gets the comedy right without relying on those fucking gag comedy bullshit which I hate. If the booba gag is your biggest problem with CSM, fear not my friend cuz that's going to come to its conclusion in the next episode and never to happen again. The booba gag is not my biggest problem at all, it's repetitive and it's not the best comedy around but it's not that bad either, it did make me smirk a couple of times, that being said, I rather have this anime not rely on that booba gag too much since it will get too repetitive, just like FMAB with those Edward short jokes which I hated, that shit was too repetitive there. But boy, that comedy when they are around the house is golden, I want them to keep that up. I see. What did you think of Denji's dream battle rant? I saw a lot of people laugh it off as just another booba gag thing but I thought it was a fantastic moment. |
Nov 2, 2022 5:34 PM
#78
Yelltah said: xZabuzax said: Yelltah said: xZabuzax said: Bhaskar_Singh said: I prefer when shows don't rely much on gag humour. For real, I hate gag comedy with passion, FMAB has a lot of gag comedy and that's one of the reasons I hated that anime, and to make it worse FMAB has a shitty timing with that gag comedy, it happened a lot in serious moments or in inappropriate times and I hated it. That gag comedy bullshit simply ruins an anime for me. I like comedy done correctly, so far this anime is doing a pretty good job with the comedy and I'm liking it, sure, the tits-fondling comedy is repetitive, and it's making me smirk here and there, however, it's not the best comedy this anime is offering, IMHO this anime is doing a pretty damn good job with the comedy when they are hanging around in the house and this happened in episode 2 & 4, those are the type of comedy that I love and this anime is doing it right, it's making me laugh a lot in those moments and I appreciate when an anime gets the comedy right without relying on those fucking gag comedy bullshit which I hate. If the booba gag is your biggest problem with CSM, fear not my friend cuz that's going to come to its conclusion in the next episode and never to happen again. The booba gag is not my biggest problem at all, it's repetitive and it's not the best comedy around but it's not that bad either, it did make me smirk a couple of times, that being said, I rather have this anime not rely on that booba gag too much since it will get too repetitive, just like FMAB with those Edward short jokes which I hated, that shit was too repetitive there. But boy, that comedy when they are around the house is golden, I want them to keep that up. I see. What did you think of Denji's dream battle rant? I saw a lot of people laugh it off as just another booba gag thing but I thought it was a fantastic moment. Denji's dream battle rant was actually awesome, it made me laugh and kinda hyped me up at the same time so it was hitting 2 birds with 1 stone =p |
Nov 2, 2022 5:35 PM
#79
Psycho_Goku said: sonu711 said: moeshit is not "realistic" in any capacity Psycho_Goku said: Ambient sounds and chirping birds often playing in the background, muted colors inside the city, toned down voice acting, mostly realistic facial expressions, highly detailed art and backgrounds, detailed character designs that always stay on model, always present shading, almost weirdly detailed cloth animation, constant use of film-like angles, etc. Chainsaw Man almost feels like an animated live-action show rather than an "anime" at some times. The CSM director Ryu Nakayama has stated that he wants to make CSM realistic like a live-action show. Is Mappa going too far with this approach or do you think all of this is fine? it's not the only anime to be that realistic. Every Kyoani anime is similar or better in being realistic shut up. have you even watched hibike euphonium, clannad, Haruhi suzumiya or hyouka? no right. your statement is henceforth invalid gokutard |
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Nov 2, 2022 5:37 PM
#80
Jfs_ said: -CSM's character design is a lot more realistic than your average anime character, No human with oversized eyes or overly spiky hair, They have a proper nose and dressed like a normal people would: a casual clothing and/or just an office suit with shirt underneath it, no special 'Uniform' like your typical battle shonen like JJK and KnY for example. I understand where you're coming from with this, but that just makes aki's gravity defying hair all the more wild to look at. -MC doesn't have your typical anime MC's goal like becoming Hokage Number 1 hero and shit, he's just a guy trying to have a better life. i mean, denji's does have a goal like that (to feel some tits). tho it is true that that goal is super twisted cuz he needs therapy lol |
Nov 2, 2022 6:08 PM
#82
Jfs_ said: -MC doesn't have your typical anime MC's goal like becoming Hokage Number 1 hero and shit, he's just a guy trying to have a better life. How come you watch like 300 anime and you are impressed with this |
Nov 2, 2022 7:11 PM
#83
belka1213 said: Aki's defying gravity hair is a lot more normal to look at rather than your average overly spiky hair in most action anime.Jfs_ said: -CSM's character design is a lot more realistic than your average anime character, No human with oversized eyes or overly spiky hair, They have a proper nose and dressed like a normal people would: a casual clothing and/or just an office suit with shirt underneath it, no special 'Uniform' like your typical battle shonen like JJK and KnY for example. I understand where you're coming from with this, but that just makes aki's gravity defying hair all the more wild to look at. -MC doesn't have your typical anime MC's goal like becoming Hokage Number 1 hero and shit, he's just a guy trying to have a better life. i mean, denji's does have a goal like that (to feel some tits). tho it is true that that goal is super twisted cuz he needs therapy lol I never said denji not having a goal, i said denji's goal is not like your typical shounen anime MC's goal. Gween_Gween said: show me the part when i say i'm impressed, to put it in context i was talking about how denji not having a generic goal is very fitting for this approach that the director is going into. How come you read my post and yet you completely missed my point? Did you speed read it?Jfs_ said: -MC doesn't have your typical anime MC's goal like becoming Hokage Number 1 hero and shit, he's just a guy trying to have a better life. How come you watch like 300 anime and you are impressed with this |
Jfs_Nov 2, 2022 7:14 PM
Go read 'Mediterranean Hegemon of Ancient Greece' If you like webnovel with historical, military and kingdom building genre. |
Nov 2, 2022 7:23 PM
#84
Jfs_ said: Aki's defying gravity hair is a lot more normal to look at rather than your average overly spiky hair in most action anime. speak for yourself omg. bro i was flabbergasted when i saw that man put his very soft and flowy hair up into a high ponytail completely ungrounded in science. im not arguing, im just saying the fact that character designs are more realistic make aki's hair physics more radical and fascinating than high school dxd boob physics. I never said denji not having a goal, i said denji's goal in not like your typical shounen anime MC's goal. for this, i kinda feel like denji actually does have a goal like typical shounen mc's. the actual contents of said goal is different, but the way he pursues it is the same as luffy does the one piece. that is, it's a very simple and easily digestible goal that provides a motivation for all of the mc's actions; further, cases where he acts in ways contradictory to that main goal are a way to signify character development. what makes denji different from other mc's is his distorted way of viewing things because of his shitty upbringing (ex: he's completely convinced himself that the missing piece of his life is touching tits, when in reality mans is prolly just lonely). |
Nov 2, 2022 7:35 PM
#85
Jfs_ said: belka1213 said: Aki's defying gravity hair is a lot more normal to look at rather than your average overly spiky hair in most action anime.Jfs_ said: -CSM's character design is a lot more realistic than your average anime character, No human with oversized eyes or overly spiky hair, They have a proper nose and dressed like a normal people would: a casual clothing and/or just an office suit with shirt underneath it, no special 'Uniform' like your typical battle shonen like JJK and KnY for example. I understand where you're coming from with this, but that just makes aki's gravity defying hair all the more wild to look at. -MC doesn't have your typical anime MC's goal like becoming Hokage Number 1 hero and shit, he's just a guy trying to have a better life. i mean, denji's does have a goal like that (to feel some tits). tho it is true that that goal is super twisted cuz he needs therapy lol I never said denji not having a goal, i said denji's goal is not like your typical shounen anime MC's goal. Gween_Gween said: show me the part when i say i'm impressed, to put it in context i was talking about how denji not having a generic goal is very fitting for this approach that the director is going into. How come you read my post and yet you completely missed my point? Did you speed read it?Jfs_ said: -MC doesn't have your typical anime MC's goal like becoming Hokage Number 1 hero and shit, he's just a guy trying to have a better life. How come you watch like 300 anime and you are impressed with this I didn't miss the point, I just pointed out that the character having a """different""" goal is just a regurgitated narrative, it has nothing to do with the decision of trying to be realistic |
Nov 2, 2022 7:39 PM
#86
belka1213 said: I disagree, Denji's goal is not as typical as many other shounen MCs, Most shounen MC's stay true to their first ever goal and only have 1 goal in their entire life, in 1000 chapter luffy's goal is to become the pirate king and it never change and will never change. Denji's goal didn't feel like typical anime MC's goal because his goal is Very normal, touching boobs having sex ton of girlfriends are a normal thing in real life, he just trying to life like normal people do, it doesn't feel the same as a guy trying to become a number 1 at something or saving the world like most MC tried to.Jfs_ said: Aki's defying gravity hair is a lot more normal to look at rather than your average overly spiky hair in most action anime. speak for yourself omg. bro i was flabbergasted when i saw that man put his very soft and flowy hair up into a high ponytail completely ungrounded in science. im not arguing, im just saying the fact that character designs are more realistic make aki's hair physics more radical and fascinating than high school dxd boob physics. I never said denji not having a goal, i said denji's goal in not like your typical shounen anime MC's goal. for this, i kinda feel like denji actually does have a goal like typical shounen mc's. the actual contents of said goal is different, but the way he pursues it is the same as luffy does the one piece. that is, it's a very simple and easily digestible goal that provides a motivation for all of the mc's actions; further, cases where he acts in ways contradictory to that main goal are a way to signify character development. what makes denji different from other mc's is his distorted way of viewing things because of his shitty upbringing (ex: he's completely convinced himself that the missing piece of his life is touching tits, when in reality mans is prolly just lonely). |
Go read 'Mediterranean Hegemon of Ancient Greece' If you like webnovel with historical, military and kingdom building genre. |
Nov 2, 2022 7:45 PM
#87
This website is a conspiracy to gather all terrible taste into one consolidated location. |
Nov 2, 2022 7:50 PM
#88
Jfs_ said: Firstly, as I said, a change in goal signifies character character development. For example, in golden kamuy, sugimoto's goal has changed from finding the gold to just helping asirpa out. Also, denji's goal is far from normal. To say that your goal in life is tits is basically saying you need therapy, which he does. belka1213 said: I disagree, Denji's goal is not as typical as many other shounen MCs, Most shounen MC's stay true to their first ever goal and only have 1 goal in their entire life, in 1000 chapter luffy's goal is to become the pirate king and it never change and will never change. Denji's goal didn't feel like typical anime MC's goal because his goal is Very normal, touching boobs having sex ton of girlfirends are a normal thing in real life, he just trying to life like normal people do, it doesn't feel the same as a guy trying to become a number 1 at something or saving the world like most MC tried to.Jfs_ said: Aki's defying gravity hair is a lot more normal to look at rather than your average overly spiky hair in most action anime. speak for yourself omg. bro i was flabbergasted when i saw that man put his very soft and flowy hair up into a high ponytail completely ungrounded in science. im not arguing, im just saying the fact that character designs are more realistic make aki's hair physics more radical and fascinating than high school dxd boob physics. I never said denji not having a goal, i said denji's goal in not like your typical shounen anime MC's goal. for this, i kinda feel like denji actually does have a goal like typical shounen mc's. the actual contents of said goal is different, but the way he pursues it is the same as luffy does the one piece. that is, it's a very simple and easily digestible goal that provides a motivation for all of the mc's actions; further, cases where he acts in ways contradictory to that main goal are a way to signify character development. what makes denji different from other mc's is his distorted way of viewing things because of his shitty upbringing (ex: he's completely convinced himself that the missing piece of his life is touching tits, when in reality mans is prolly just lonely). he's been neglected his whole life and has no clue that life has more to offer. To him, who has never made any meaningful connections (besides with his fucking dog) tits are the one piece. naruto lived his life looking at other those types of relationships, wishing he could make those connections, and thinking that being hokage would instantly give him them. denji, on the other hand, hasn't even been exposed to that. he's completely at a loss for why he feels empty despite having attained his and pochita's goal of not living in a fucking shed lol, and he misattributes that feeling towards himself not having touched boobs. therefore, much like luffy is chasing his dream of being pirate king, denji is chasing (what he thinks is) his dream of touching boobs. |
Nov 2, 2022 7:53 PM
#89
Gween_Gween said: whether or not it have something to do with it trying to be realistic or not is arguable, But You definitely did missed my point though, you wouldn't say i'm impressed if you didn't missed my point lol.Jfs_ said: belka1213 said: Jfs_ said: -CSM's character design is a lot more realistic than your average anime character, No human with oversized eyes or overly spiky hair, They have a proper nose and dressed like a normal people would: a casual clothing and/or just an office suit with shirt underneath it, no special 'Uniform' like your typical battle shonen like JJK and KnY for example. I understand where you're coming from with this, but that just makes aki's gravity defying hair all the more wild to look at. -MC doesn't have your typical anime MC's goal like becoming Hokage Number 1 hero and shit, he's just a guy trying to have a better life. i mean, denji's does have a goal like that (to feel some tits). tho it is true that that goal is super twisted cuz he needs therapy lol I never said denji not having a goal, i said denji's goal is not like your typical shounen anime MC's goal. Gween_Gween said: Jfs_ said: -MC doesn't have your typical anime MC's goal like becoming Hokage Number 1 hero and shit, he's just a guy trying to have a better life. How come you watch like 300 anime and you are impressed with this I didn't miss the point, I just pointed out that the character having a """different""" goal is just a regurgitated narrative, it has nothing to do with the decision of trying to be realistic |
Go read 'Mediterranean Hegemon of Ancient Greece' If you like webnovel with historical, military and kingdom building genre. |
Nov 2, 2022 7:56 PM
#90
Jfs_ said: Gween_Gween said: whether or not it have something to do with it trying to be realistic or not is arguable, But You definitely did missed my point though, you wouldn't say i'm impressed if you didn't missed my point lol.Jfs_ said: belka1213 said: Aki's defying gravity hair is a lot more normal to look at rather than your average overly spiky hair in most action anime.Jfs_ said: -CSM's character design is a lot more realistic than your average anime character, No human with oversized eyes or overly spiky hair, They have a proper nose and dressed like a normal people would: a casual clothing and/or just an office suit with shirt underneath it, no special 'Uniform' like your typical battle shonen like JJK and KnY for example. I understand where you're coming from with this, but that just makes aki's gravity defying hair all the more wild to look at. -MC doesn't have your typical anime MC's goal like becoming Hokage Number 1 hero and shit, he's just a guy trying to have a better life. i mean, denji's does have a goal like that (to feel some tits). tho it is true that that goal is super twisted cuz he needs therapy lol I never said denji not having a goal, i said denji's goal is not like your typical shounen anime MC's goal. Gween_Gween said: show me the part when i say i'm impressed, to put it in context i was talking about how denji not having a generic goal is very fitting for this approach that the director is going into. How come you read my post and yet you completely missed my point? Did you speed read it?Jfs_ said: -MC doesn't have your typical anime MC's goal like becoming Hokage Number 1 hero and shit, he's just a guy trying to have a better life. How come you watch like 300 anime and you are impressed with this I didn't miss the point, I just pointed out that the character having a """different""" goal is just a regurgitated narrative, it has nothing to do with the decision of trying to be realistic You wouldn't use the example as something notable if you didn't that it was a remarkable contrast, would you? |
Nov 2, 2022 7:59 PM
#91
V1P3R0P said: Hell Yeah!! Psycho Goku back after a long ba.... break based chad mobbu kun |
Nov 2, 2022 8:05 PM
#92
belka1213 said: No he don't need theraphy, it's not like he have tits as a goal for his entire life, he will eventually stop having tits as a goal when he achieved it (which would happen soon). It's a very a normal thing for a teenager in real life.Jfs_ said: Firstly, as I said, a change in goal signifies character character development. For example, in golden kamuy, sugimoto's goal has changed from finding the gold to just helping asirpa out. Also, denji's goal is far from normal. To say that your goal in life is tits is basically saying you need therapy, which he does. belka1213 said: Jfs_ said: Aki's defying gravity hair is a lot more normal to look at rather than your average overly spiky hair in most action anime. speak for yourself omg. bro i was flabbergasted when i saw that man put his very soft and flowy hair up into a high ponytail completely ungrounded in science. im not arguing, im just saying the fact that character designs are more realistic make aki's hair physics more radical and fascinating than high school dxd boob physics. I never said denji not having a goal, i said denji's goal in not like your typical shounen anime MC's goal. for this, i kinda feel like denji actually does have a goal like typical shounen mc's. the actual contents of said goal is different, but the way he pursues it is the same as luffy does the one piece. that is, it's a very simple and easily digestible goal that provides a motivation for all of the mc's actions; further, cases where he acts in ways contradictory to that main goal are a way to signify character development. what makes denji different from other mc's is his distorted way of viewing things because of his shitty upbringing (ex: he's completely convinced himself that the missing piece of his life is touching tits, when in reality mans is prolly just lonely). he's been neglected his whole life and has no clue that life has more to offer. To him, who has never made any meaningful connections (besides with his fucking dog) tits are the one piece. naruto lived his life looking at other those types of relationships, wishing he could make those connections, and thinking that being hokage would instantly give him them. denji, on the other hand, hasn't even been exposed to that. he's completely at a loss for why he feels empty despite having attained his and pochita's goal of not living in a fucking shed lol, and he misattributes that feeling towards himself not having touched boobs. therefore, much like luffy is chasing his dream of being pirate king, denji is chasing (what he thinks is) his dream of touching boobs. look i think we can just agree to disagree about this, you think denji's dream is just as typical as most other shonen's MCs and i'm respectfully disagree with it, we should just leave it at that. |
Jfs_Nov 2, 2022 8:10 PM
Go read 'Mediterranean Hegemon of Ancient Greece' If you like webnovel with historical, military and kingdom building genre. |
Nov 2, 2022 8:08 PM
#93
Gween_Gween said: Just because it was notable, doesn't make it inherently impressive lmao, i can note a lot of shitty things i've done in my life do you think it would mean i'm impressed with them?Jfs_ said: Gween_Gween said: Jfs_ said: belka1213 said: Aki's defying gravity hair is a lot more normal to look at rather than your average overly spiky hair in most action anime.Jfs_ said: -CSM's character design is a lot more realistic than your average anime character, No human with oversized eyes or overly spiky hair, They have a proper nose and dressed like a normal people would: a casual clothing and/or just an office suit with shirt underneath it, no special 'Uniform' like your typical battle shonen like JJK and KnY for example. I understand where you're coming from with this, but that just makes aki's gravity defying hair all the more wild to look at. -MC doesn't have your typical anime MC's goal like becoming Hokage Number 1 hero and shit, he's just a guy trying to have a better life. i mean, denji's does have a goal like that (to feel some tits). tho it is true that that goal is super twisted cuz he needs therapy lol I never said denji not having a goal, i said denji's goal is not like your typical shounen anime MC's goal. Gween_Gween said: show me the part when i say i'm impressed, to put it in context i was talking about how denji not having a generic goal is very fitting for this approach that the director is going into. How come you read my post and yet you completely missed my point? Did you speed read it?Jfs_ said: -MC doesn't have your typical anime MC's goal like becoming Hokage Number 1 hero and shit, he's just a guy trying to have a better life. How come you watch like 300 anime and you are impressed with this I didn't miss the point, I just pointed out that the character having a """different""" goal is just a regurgitated narrative, it has nothing to do with the decision of trying to be realistic You wouldn't use the example as something notable if you didn't that it was a remarkable contrast, would you? |
Go read 'Mediterranean Hegemon of Ancient Greece' If you like webnovel with historical, military and kingdom building genre. |
Nov 2, 2022 8:11 PM
#94
Jfs_ said: Gween_Gween said: Just because it was notable, doesn't make it inherently impressive lmao, i can note a lot of shitty things i've done in my life do you think it would mean i'm impressed with them?Jfs_ said: Gween_Gween said: whether or not it have something to do with it trying to be realistic or not is arguable, But You definitely did missed my point though, you wouldn't say i'm impressed if you didn't missed my point lol.Jfs_ said: belka1213 said: Aki's defying gravity hair is a lot more normal to look at rather than your average overly spiky hair in most action anime.Jfs_ said: -CSM's character design is a lot more realistic than your average anime character, No human with oversized eyes or overly spiky hair, They have a proper nose and dressed like a normal people would: a casual clothing and/or just an office suit with shirt underneath it, no special 'Uniform' like your typical battle shonen like JJK and KnY for example. I understand where you're coming from with this, but that just makes aki's gravity defying hair all the more wild to look at. -MC doesn't have your typical anime MC's goal like becoming Hokage Number 1 hero and shit, he's just a guy trying to have a better life. i mean, denji's does have a goal like that (to feel some tits). tho it is true that that goal is super twisted cuz he needs therapy lol I never said denji not having a goal, i said denji's goal is not like your typical shounen anime MC's goal. Gween_Gween said: show me the part when i say i'm impressed, to put it in context i was talking about how denji not having a generic goal is very fitting for this approach that the director is going into. How come you read my post and yet you completely missed my point? Did you speed read it?Jfs_ said: -MC doesn't have your typical anime MC's goal like becoming Hokage Number 1 hero and shit, he's just a guy trying to have a better life. How come you watch like 300 anime and you are impressed with this I didn't miss the point, I just pointed out that the character having a """different""" goal is just a regurgitated narrative, it has nothing to do with the decision of trying to be realistic You wouldn't use the example as something notable if you didn't that it was a remarkable contrast, would you? ok so lets change the word impressed to consider remarkable and my comment is the same, thanks for the understanding |
Nov 2, 2022 8:22 PM
#95
it's pretty refreshing, honestly. not every anime needs exaggerated gags. also, why would it be a "problem" or "too far" if it works with the author's explicitly stated vision? |
Nov 2, 2022 8:53 PM
#96
Nov 2, 2022 9:23 PM
#97
I mean, quality is good. The fact that MAPPA can make it as realistic as possible is impressive. I only worry for the animators though. |
Nov 2, 2022 10:01 PM
#98
What do you guys want Chainsaw Man to look like then? Pop team epic? |
Nov 3, 2022 6:50 AM
#99
What does this even me? Chainsaw man fans are wack, "an anime has a different approach to animation, guess it's an animated live-action show", wtf is an animated live-action show if not just an animated show or idk an anime, this whole thread is stupidly pretentious |
Nov 3, 2022 7:26 AM
#100
Everywhere I go, I see his face, Chainsaw man. (ft. Makima) |
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