| (With all due respect this isn't any hate on this anime or any anime in particular. I'm enjoying the show so please be respectful, thank you!^^ ) Do we actually lowered our standards? CGI or Hand drawn animation? This is a topic that came up recently, it was actually brought up because of Chainsaw man first episode and it made me wondering.. I myself doesn't really care about how studios are making their animes, but when it comes to quality and entertainment its really impairs the overall effects. So what do you guys all think? I still gonna try and enjoy their new production (Chainsaw Man) but I really interested how do you all feels about this topic. Thank you! |
CyroseOct 15, 2022 12:28 AM
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| Our standards on CG are definitely rock bottom. People are calling Attack on Titan S4's CG top tier even though even freaking Kill la Kill had better 3D action scenes 10 years before that. |
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Theo1899 said: Our standards on CG are definitely rock bottom. People are calling Attack on Titan S4's CG top tier even though even freaking Kill la Kill had better 3D action scenes 10 years before that. I feel the same, I actually just recently watched Kill la Kill and its animation is flawless. Old Animes were somehow able to use CGI but not for the reason to cut corners. |
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| Doesn't matter if it's CGI or hand drawn unless it is animated well. Well I do agree CSM CGI was noticable but it was definitely not BAD or mediocre. It was rather good and re-watching the ep made me appreciate it even more. |
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| CGI is now an animation standard and it is definitely not used to take shortcuts. I wont say CGI is easy to make or it can be made faster. Because such shortcuts just destroy the project. CSM cgi is just an example about how good they used cgi and how good they blended it with 2d. People who complain that the whole fight scene was cgi were completely fooled. |
| I am pretty sure those old anime if released in current times, u all will be the first guys to trash talk it. No need to lower ur standard, u just need to move of to the next thing. If fact, u not dropping is it still what's lower ur standard rather than not complaining. So that's a irony in itself. Anyways I don't care about CSM or it's cgi. So whatever i guess Btw whenever Ghibli used Cgi it was trashed like no tommorow. So i guess ur better eg to be believable. |
AdampkOct 15, 2022 12:54 AM
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| It doesn't matter. Cgi has been used in anime since the 90's. With space opera series having very noticeable spaceship cgi, yet no one ever talks about that due to animation limitations during those years. Now we have reached a point, where cgi is used in literally every anime. Background designs, camera movements, very detailed monsters that are hard to replicate in 2D animation, and sometimes even for character designs. The problem is ppl still think cgi usage is a shortcut these studios take, when it's not. Cgi is more expensive than hand-drawn animation, since it requires better technology and more recourses and knowledge. Is it done faster than 2D animation? Yes. However it's just as hard to pull off, if not harder. Csm started production very late. I believe earlier this year, maybe at the end of last year. And may I remind you, MAPPA IS SOLO FUNDING THIS ENTIRE ANIME, THEY BOUGHT THE RIGHTS FROM SHUEISHA AND ARE PRODUCING IT ON THEIR OWN. Either way, we have already seen the 2nd episode preview, and there wasn't any cgi in it. Another problem is, ppl don't know what cgi even looks like. A lot of scenes in episode 1, which fans consider to be cgi, are not. Most of episode 1 is 2D. Cgi was only used in a few sequences for Denjis transformation, and in a very short sequence for the zombies. But most of the fight was 2D. |
StaleNutOct 15, 2022 1:02 AM
Cyrose said: (With all due respect this isn't any hate on this anime or any anime in particular. I'm enjoying the show so please be respectful, thank you!^^ ) Do we actually lowered our standards? CGI or Hand drawn animation? So what do you guys all think? I still gonna try and enjoy their new production (Chainsaw Man) but I really interested how do you all feels about this topic. Thank you! I'm probably unlike most people in that I think CGI can even enhance an anime or cutscene (if in a game) if its done really well. Especially with metalic or otherwise clearly manufactured objects like mechs, other vehicles, etc. So I definately think it can be good. On the other hand due to the nature of CGI, low quality CGI is much more distracting from the experience then poorly drawn art is. So its much more important to get it done right. That said, I do think a lot of people simply dont like the idea of CGI, more so then that they have an issue with its quality. Also, I think people are a lot more forgiving when it comes to having standards or critique, if the anime in question is highly popular. |
| “Ha ha, the synergy between my left and right hand made them feel scared.” Ye Xiu said. |
| Yeah modern fans definitely have, people are more interested in studios pumping out shows as quickly as possible rather than half decade or so waits for shows that have amazing quality with little to no cgi usage. Thus we have CSM lmao, and with it's popularity this is sadly going to influence anime as a whole going forward, at least to some degree. |
| well i mean with the improvement and common use of it we gotta get through this "bad cgi" for the future when it turns into "good cgi" |
| Puipui Molcar is better animated. They should have taken inspiration from it for making Chainsaw Man. |
| I prefer hand-drawn though I can understand the CGI for the chainsaw's whirring or spinning or whatever it's called. Chainsawin'? |
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| Meh who cares the world might end soon anyway just enjoy some anime before it all blows up. |
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Iloveggs said: KryzakamiHrybami said: Puipui Molcar is better animated. They should have taken inspiration from it for making Chainsaw Man. It’s stop-motion animation and I don’t think anyone will prefer that for metallic chainsawman when you only do that shit for furrier shits . That's what I'm talking about. Fluffy chainsaw looks better than CGI chainsaw. |
trexzyY said: Apparently all of these clowns arguing.my answer is... who tf gives a shit |
Cyrose said: (With all due respect this isn't any hate on this anime or any anime in particular. I'm enjoying the show so please be respectful, thank you!^^ ) Do we actually lowered our standards? CGI or Hand drawn animation? This is a topic that came up recently, it was actually brought up because of Chainsaw man first episode and it made me wondering.. I myself doesn't really care about how studios are making their animes, but when it comes to quality and entertainment its really impairs the overall effects. So what do you guys all think? I still gonna try and enjoy their new production (Chainsaw Man) but I really interested how do you all feels about this topic. Thank you! With all due respect, Your opinion is hot trash CGI implementation isn't cheap at all, even more expensive than handrawn |
| yes, we should lower our standards |
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