Kyoto Animation is ranked #1 company in MAL and I love that

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Kyoto was also known to be the best employee treating company of all. Not killing their artists, but I guess the people over here at MAL only care about ranking them based on what anime they have produced.

There's also some dumb theory that it's pity votes because of the fire incident, which was pulled out of whatever ass statistics they used.

What makes a company better - their product? Or their treatment?

Feb 19, 2022 6:46 AM

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My guy replace most popular/favourite studio with best/number 1.

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Masterpiece or mid, generic or fresh,best or worst are all subjective
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Feb 19, 2022 6:46 AM

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Honestly can't tell if this is sarcastic or not lol

No, i'm being serious. They've made a lot of really popular series.

Because Toei fans are too old to vote online

Feb 19, 2022 7:06 AM

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Their word of mouth has always been heavy in community. So not surprising at all. Plus most studio at top are basically heavy hitters in animation aspect.

Anyway they wouldn't make the cut in my favorite list because I care much more about preserving integrity of works over animation.

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Feb 19, 2022 7:09 AM

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fine i guess
people tend to circlejerk around MAPPA, ufotable and KyoAni a lot though
way more than the other studios

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Feb 19, 2022 7:21 AM

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I can live with that although it's not even in my top 10 overall because of how many key adaptations they made, I just dislike those too much to rank KyoAni higher.

But better than ufotable or Wit being at the top, which was what I kinda expect to happen eventually. But I guess the average age on MAL is not yet 15.

My personal pick is gonna be Bones, simply because it's easily the most consistently good studio. I can think of almost no shows from them that I disliked and for a Studio with that many shows under their belt (almost all of which I have seen) that is a very unique achievement that no other studio is even close to (setting aside something like Ghibli). Even something like Josee, which I didn't like a lot, wasn't a terrible. When they fail, they're still average. They also do a fair amount of originals, which I appreciate a lot and their directing and animation are always on-point, even for their more 'average' titles. And with Mob Psycho 100 they have claim to one of the overall best animated anime out there (certainly for TV anime) so they just impress on every level, and for quite some time now. I've seen other studios come up and have good starts with one hit after another but eventually they all start producing mediocrity or a bunch of plain bad shows - Bones being the only exception that is older than 20 years and still maintains a 90%+ rate of making good and interesting anime.

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Feb 19, 2022 10:19 AM

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Its not the best studio in terms of animation but its well deserved because it has many iconic and distinguishable character design and animation that are well loved by the community.

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Feb 19, 2022 10:31 AM

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I personally think that they do deserve to be up in the Top 10. All of their shows have soul, and they actually care about their staff.

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Feb 19, 2022 11:33 AM

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Ever since Demon Slayer, especially after season 2 now, ufotable has cemented itself as the best anime stufio in my book. Their animations are just ridiculously amazing it's honestly mind-blowing.

Feb 19, 2022 11:53 AM

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Kyoto Animation at #1 and Madhouse at #2 is pretty much a given

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Feb 19, 2022 12:28 PM

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KyoAni wouldn't make my top 10 but if you like them being #1 I'm happy for you.

Feb 19, 2022 2:23 PM

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People who do not like at least one KyoAni show cannot be trusted.

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Feb 19, 2022 8:19 PM

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Feb 19, 2022 9:17 PM

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I don't fancy their art style or their storyboarding, but they seem to be the most universally liked and least controversial of the popular companies. Plus from what I heard, they provide great working environment for their artists and animators. So yeah, Kyoani deserves the spot

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Feb 19, 2022 9:34 PM

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My predictions were MAPPA on Wit, so I'm actually surprised KyoAni took rhe first spot.

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Feb 19, 2022 10:34 PM

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A_G_N said:
Kyoto was also known to be the best employee treating company of all. Not killing their artists, but I guess the people over here at MAL only care about ranking them based on what anime they have produced.

There's also some dumb theory that it's pity votes because of the fire incident, which was pulled out of whatever ass statistics they used.

What makes a company better - their product? Or their treatment?

Both, if a company is trying to scam me with overpriced low quality products then they're a shitty company no matter how well they treat their employees. This is an anime ranking website asking us about our favorite companies that make anime, if you're bothering to make a list that only include anime related companies then why not take the anime they make into consideration? if you wanna judge anime studios as mere companies then it should be like this: from a worker's point of view the best company is the one that treat its workers the best, from an investor's point of view the best company is the one making the most money, and from a consumer's point of view the best company is the one with the best products.

My point is that you can have a preference for an anime studio due to their products while still condoning their treatment of their employees. If you wanna let your preference be influenced solely by how good their workplace is for their employees then why stop at just studios, why not apply the same standards to anime shows themselves too? Why not decide which anime you put in your favs based on which one was made under the best working conditions and paid its staff the most? Do I have to feel guilty about putting AoT or Naruto on my favs? Should I replace them with shows anime made by KyoAni instead?

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Feb 19, 2022 11:16 PM

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ClickBaitBuster said:

A_G_N said:
Kyoto was also known to be the best employee treating company of all. Not killing their artists, but I guess the people over here at MAL only care about ranking them based on what anime they have produced.

There's also some dumb theory that it's pity votes because of the fire incident, which was pulled out of whatever ass statistics they used.

What makes a company better - their product? Or their treatment?

Both, if a company is trying to scam me with overpriced low quality products then they're a shitty company no matter how well they treat their employees. This is an anime ranking website asking us about our favorite companies that make anime, if you're bothering to make a list that only include anime related companies then why not take the anime they make into consideration? if you wanna judge anime studios as mere companies then it should be like this: from a worker's point of view the best company is the one that treat its workers the best, from an investor's point of view the best company is the one making the most money, and from a consumer's point of view the best company is the one with the best products.
My point is that you can have a preference for an anime studio due to their products while still condoning their treatment of their employees. If you wanna let your preference be influenced solely by how good their workplace is for their employees then why stop at just studios, why not apply the same standards to anime shows themselves too? Why not decide which anime you put in your favs based on which one was made under the best working conditions and paid its staff the most? Do I have to feel guilty about putting AoT or Naruto on my favs? Should I replace them with shows anime made by KyoAni instead?

Yeah? Kyoani has overpriced low quality products? Why, because their studio usually don't go for shonen or action related stuff.

A studio only animates and draws the series, they don't create the story themselves, except for rare original anime. Other studios "adapting good" stories don't have the praise go to them for that.

Don't act like the studio merely animating those stories, makes the studio better.

Studios should only be compared for how well done their product is from a artistic and animation side, since that is only what they do. Which kyoani always do well. Comparing studios for a story they merely adapted?

Argument falls flat. Only MAL would think a studio is better because they animated someone else's story decently or well.

For example Mappa is blamed if the product(AOT) is not up to quality. Not praised because - look guys Mappa is better because animated AOT.. pretty averagely.

Feb 19, 2022 11:45 PM

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Tsunamii_ said:
In fact I totally agree with that

If you didn't know now you can put in favorites companies (animation studios, editor, licensor...)

If you didn't put any companies in favorite, which companies will you choose ?

Company list here

What a childish post. Why do you care about something so trivial?

Feb 19, 2022 11:46 PM

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A_G_N said:

ClickBaitBuster said:

Both, if a company is trying to scam me with overpriced low quality products then they're a shitty company no matter how well they treat their employees. This is an anime ranking website asking us about our favorite companies that make anime, if you're bothering to make a list that only include anime related companies then why not take the anime they make into consideration? if you wanna judge anime studios as mere companies then it should be like this: from a worker's point of view the best company is the one that treat its workers the best, from an investor's point of view the best company is the one making the most money, and from a consumer's point of view the best company is the one with the best products.
My point is that you can have a preference for an anime studio due to their products while still condoning their treatment of their employees. If you wanna let your preference be influenced solely by how good their workplace is for their employees then why stop at just studios, why not apply the same standards to anime shows themselves too? Why not decide which anime you put in your favs based on which one was made under the best working conditions and paid its staff the most? Do I have to feel guilty about putting AoT or Naruto on my favs? Should I replace them with shows anime made by KyoAni instead?

Yeah? Kyoani has overpriced low quality products? Why, because their studio usually don't go for shonen or action related stuff.

A studio only animates and draws the series, they don't create the story themselves, except for rare original anime. Other studios "adapting good" stories don't have the praise go to them for that.

Don't act like the studio merely animating those stories, makes the studio better.

Studios should only be compared for how well done their product is from a artistic and animation side, since that is only what they do. Which kyoani always do well. Comparing studios for a story they merely adapted?

Argument falls flat. Only MAL would think a studio is better because they animated someone else's story decently or well.

For example Mappa is blamed if the product(AOT) is not up to quality. Not praised because - look guys Mappa is better because animated AOT.. pretty averagely.

Storyboarding is one of the major contribution to how well adapted an anime is. For a comic we call it paneling, while for animations we call it storyboarding. Converting manga panels to a storyboard is a tedious and time consuming process, hence comparing studios for their adapted stories is justifiable.

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Feb 20, 2022 12:20 AM

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A_G_N said:

Yeah? Kyoani has overpriced low quality products? Why, because their studio usually don't go for shonen or action related stuff.

A studio only animates and draws the series, they don't create the story themselves, except for rare original anime. Other studios "adapting good" stories don't have the praise go to them for that.

Don't act like the studio merely animating those stories, makes the studio better.

Studios should only be compared for how well done their product is from a artistic and animation side, since that is only what they do. Which kyoani always do well. Comparing studios for a story they merely adapted?

Argument falls flat. Only MAL would think a studio is better because they animated someone else's story decently or well.

For example Mappa is blamed if the product(AOT) is not up to quality. Not praised because - look guys Mappa is better because animated AOT.. pretty averagely.

Storyboarding is one of the major contribution to how well adapted an anime is. For a comic we call it paneling, while for animations we call it storyboarding. Converting manga panels to a storyboard is a tedious and time consuming process, hence comparing studios for their adapted stories is justifiable.

Tedius and time consuming, which is what I meant by drawing and animating them well enough to show that. Kyoani does it well, sometimes making it better than the original. But all praise shouldn't go to the studio for that.

Feb 20, 2022 12:37 AM

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A_G_N said:

Yumerei said:

A_G_N said:

ClickBaitBuster said:

A_G_N said:
Kyoto was also known to be the best employee treating company of all. Not killing their artists, but I guess the people over here at MAL only care about ranking them based on what anime they have produced.

There's also some dumb theory that it's pity votes because of the fire incident, which was pulled out of whatever ass statistics they used.

What makes a company better - their product? Or their treatment?

Both, if a company is trying to scam me with overpriced low quality products then they're a shitty company no matter how well they treat their employees. This is an anime ranking website asking us about our favorite companies that make anime, if you're bothering to make a list that only include anime related companies then why not take the anime they make into consideration? if you wanna judge anime studios as mere companies then it should be like this: from a worker's point of view the best company is the one that treat its workers the best, from an investor's point of view the best company is the one making the most money, and from a consumer's point of view the best company is the one with the best products.
My point is that you can have a preference for an anime studio due to their products while still condoning their treatment of their employees. If you wanna let your preference be influenced solely by how good their workplace is for their employees then why stop at just studios, why not apply the same standards to anime shows themselves too? Why not decide which anime you put in your favs based on which one was made under the best working conditions and paid its staff the most? Do I have to feel guilty about putting AoT or Naruto on my favs? Should I replace them with shows anime made by KyoAni instead?

Yeah? Kyoani has overpriced low quality products? Why, because their studio usually don't go for shonen or action related stuff.

A studio only animates and draws the series, they don't create the story themselves, except for rare original anime. Other studios "adapting good" stories don't have the praise go to them for that.

Don't act like the studio merely animating those stories, makes the studio better.

Studios should only be compared for how well done their product is from a artistic and animation side, since that is only what they do. Which kyoani always do well. Comparing studios for a story they merely adapted?

Argument falls flat. Only MAL would think a studio is better because they animated someone else's story decently or well.

For example Mappa is blamed if the product(AOT) is not up to quality. Not praised because - look guys Mappa is better because animated AOT.. pretty averagely.

Storyboarding is one of the major contribution to how well adapted an anime is. For a comic we call it paneling, while for animations we call it storyboarding. Converting manga panels to a storyboard is a tedious and time consuming process, hence comparing studios for their adapted stories is justifiable.

Tedius and time consuming, which is what I meant by drawing and animating them well enough to show that. Kyoani does it well, sometimes making it better than the original. But all praise shouldn't go to the studio for that.

Drawing and animating isn't storyboarding, but I get what you mean. Multiple parties contribute to a well adapted anime. Then again, KyoAni became the most favorited company here for more reasons than their highly appraised adapted anime.

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Feb 20, 2022 12:48 AM

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Yumerei said:

A_G_N said:

Yumerei said:

A_G_N said:

ClickBaitBuster said:

A_G_N said:
Kyoto was also known to be the best employee treating company of all. Not killing their artists, but I guess the people over here at MAL only care about ranking them based on what anime they have produced.

There's also some dumb theory that it's pity votes because of the fire incident, which was pulled out of whatever ass statistics they used.

What makes a company better - their product? Or their treatment?

Both, if a company is trying to scam me with overpriced low quality products then they're a shitty company no matter how well they treat their employees. This is an anime ranking website asking us about our favorite companies that make anime, if you're bothering to make a list that only include anime related companies then why not take the anime they make into consideration? if you wanna judge anime studios as mere companies then it should be like this: from a worker's point of view the best company is the one that treat its workers the best, from an investor's point of view the best company is the one making the most money, and from a consumer's point of view the best company is the one with the best products.
My point is that you can have a preference for an anime studio due to their products while still condoning their treatment of their employees. If you wanna let your preference be influenced solely by how good their workplace is for their employees then why stop at just studios, why not apply the same standards to anime shows themselves too? Why not decide which anime you put in your favs based on which one was made under the best working conditions and paid its staff the most? Do I have to feel guilty about putting AoT or Naruto on my favs? Should I replace them with shows anime made by KyoAni instead?

Yeah? Kyoani has overpriced low quality products? Why, because their studio usually don't go for shonen or action related stuff.

A studio only animates and draws the series, they don't create the story themselves, except for rare original anime. Other studios "adapting good" stories don't have the praise go to them for that.

Don't act like the studio merely animating those stories, makes the studio better.

Studios should only be compared for how well done their product is from a artistic and animation side, since that is only what they do. Which kyoani always do well. Comparing studios for a story they merely adapted?

Argument falls flat. Only MAL would think a studio is better because they animated someone else's story decently or well.

For example Mappa is blamed if the product(AOT) is not up to quality. Not praised because - look guys Mappa is better because animated AOT.. pretty averagely.

Storyboarding is one of the major contribution to how well adapted an anime is. For a comic we call it paneling, while for animations we call it storyboarding. Converting manga panels to a storyboard is a tedious and time consuming process, hence comparing studios for their adapted stories is justifiable.

Tedius and time consuming, which is what I meant by drawing and animating them well enough to show that. Kyoani does it well, sometimes making it better than the original. But all praise shouldn't go to the studio for that.

Drawing and animating isn't storyboarding, but I get what you mean. Multiple parties contribute to a well adapted anime. Then again, KyoAni became the most favorited company here for more reasons than their highly appraised adapted anime.

I mean, it is all speculation. But might have a play in it.

Feb 20, 2022 1:08 AM

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The amount of copium in this thread, I can't. "They didn't adapt my fav manga, so bad", "my genre pref are not catered for, meh", "moe design, instant fail", "bad storybording" wtf? The nitpick people go for when they can't criticize quality.

Feb 20, 2022 1:52 AM

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A_G_N said:

ClickBaitBuster said:

Both, if a company is trying to scam me with overpriced low quality products then they're a shitty company no matter how well they treat their employees. This is an anime ranking website asking us about our favorite companies that make anime, if you're bothering to make a list that only include anime related companies then why not take the anime they make into consideration? if you wanna judge anime studios as mere companies then it should be like this: from a worker's point of view the best company is the one that treat its workers the best, from an investor's point of view the best company is the one making the most money, and from a consumer's point of view the best company is the one with the best products.
My point is that you can have a preference for an anime studio due to their products while still condoning their treatment of their employees. If you wanna let your preference be influenced solely by how good their workplace is for their employees then why stop at just studios, why not apply the same standards to anime shows themselves too? Why not decide which anime you put in your favs based on which one was made under the best working conditions and paid its staff the most? Do I have to feel guilty about putting AoT or Naruto on my favs? Should I replace them with shows anime made by KyoAni instead?

Yeah? Kyoani has overpriced low quality products? Why, because their studio usually don't go for shonen or action related stuff.

A studio only animates and draws the series, they don't create the story themselves, except for rare original anime. Other studios "adapting good" stories don't have the praise go to them for that.

Don't act like the studio merely animating those stories, makes the studio better.

Studios should only be compared for how well done their product is from a artistic and animation side, since that is only what they do. Which kyoani always do well. Comparing studios for a story they merely adapted?

Argument falls flat. Only MAL would think a studio is better because they animated someone else's story decently or well.

For example Mappa is blamed if the product(AOT) is not up to quality. Not praised because - look guys Mappa is better because animated AOT.. pretty averagely.

Did.. did you just completely miss the point I was trying to make? Oh boy let me start from the beginning...

>Kyoani has overpriced low quality products?
Where did I say that? Ok let me be completely clear, I am not trying to make any argument against KyoAni whatsoever. You asked the following question: "What makes a company better - their product? Or their treatment?" I answered with "both" and gave you an example of a company treating their employees well but making a shitty product. Clear? Moving on...

>A studio only animates and draws the series, they don't create the story themselves, except for rare original anime.
Ok? You can still praise them for those "rare" originals no?

>Other studios "adapting good" stories don't have the praise go to them for that.
Why though? Studios get multiple offers, it's up to them to select what they animate, if I like sports and see Production I.G often getting to adapt the sport manga that I like and doing a good job at it, then of course I'm gonna praise them for that.

>Studios should only be compared for how well done their product is from a artistic and animation side, since that is only what they do. Which KyoAni always do well. Comparing studios for a story they merely adapted?
Yes I agree. But we are talking about preference here, not objective facts. You can put all the production values you can on an anime, but if I don't like that anime in the first place then it won't matter much because I'm still gonna put the studio that make good adaptations of source material that I actually like in my favorites.

>Argument falls flat. Only MAL would think a studio is better because they animated someone else's story decently or well.
Dude I like adaptations of battle shounen/sports/seinen manga, KyoAni makes none of that, so do you want to force me to add them to my favs just because they have good animation and treat their employees well? Seriously dude listen to yourself you sound like a salty KyoAni fanboy who just can't stand the thought of someone thinking that KyoAni isn't the best, get a grip.

>For example Mappa is blamed if the product(AOT) is not up to quality. Not praised because - look guys Mappa is better because animated AOT.. pretty averagely.
Do you think that KyoAni would be able to make a better adaptation of AoT? If you think good animation is all it takes to have a good adaptation then you have no idea what you're talking about. Wit's AoT is superior to Mappa's AoT not because of the flashier animation or the higher production values, it's simply because Araki's direction style is better suited for it than Hayashi's, just like Hayashi's direction style is better suited for it than KyoAni's style.

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The amount of copium in this thread, I can't. "They didn't adapt my fav manga, so bad", "my genre pref are not catered for, meh", "moe design, instant fail", "bad storybording" wtf? The nitpick people go for when they can't criticize quality.

Care to give a reason why studio trigger or madhouse isn't on your list of favorites, oh elite one?

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