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Feb 3, 2022 3:29 PM
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It doesn't have any meaning. Do they really use it and in which situation do they use them?
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Anime = autistic version of Japan 🗾
No one in Japan speaks like anime characters.

The same reason why no French person says "hon hon" and no Italian says "Mamma Mia" or why no Chinese person goes around saying "ching Chong chi ching che"
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Kaendustries said:
Anime = autistic version of Japan 🗾

No one in Japan speaks like anime characters.
Thats a myth. Althouhh i dont recall anyone saying ara ara i know people say a ra ra. and ma ma is very common i say it myself.
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yeah brocacho they use it all the time when im up in they guts n shieeet
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when you get back @Tsukik0 , can you answer this for me?
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also wow, prime-senpai is her only friend. talk about being dedicated
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Feb 3, 2022 5:49 PM
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anirudhtsuki said:
It doesn't have any meaning.

It has a dictionary entry though.
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/%E3%81%82%E3%82%89/#jn-6988
Feb 3, 2022 7:54 PM
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i dont think anybody say that in japan except probably some men say ma ma when trying to calm down argument among themselves
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probably once in a blue moon, they are legit words
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I would immediately challenge her to a Battle of Stand users , for her hand in marriage……of course.
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Well I've met only one girl from Japan who was a native speaker to teach a little bit of their language in high school, no she never used or even said about those sentences.

Even if in past they used to say very rarely those stuff than right now cause of anime they would avoid saying that x)
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The same reason why no French person says "hon hon"


Wait someone believe in this? Never heard of people thinking that or I never heard french people said that, nor in my family or whenever I met/spoke french, what even this hon hon hon was supposed to mean x)
Feb 4, 2022 1:34 AM

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"Ma ma" is uncommon there.
As for "Ara ara", I doubt it.
But a singular "Ara" is also uncommon there.
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Kaendustries said:
Anime = autistic version of Japan 🗾
No one in Japan speaks like anime characters.

The same reason why no French person says "hon hon" and no Italian says "Mamma Mia" or why no Chinese person goes around saying "ching Chong chi ching che"

i cracked up so bad from that alst one
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when you get back @Tsukik0 , can you answer this for me?


あらあら you summoned me for this?
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MilkMonster said:
Kaendustries said:
Anime = autistic version of Japan 🗾

No one in Japan speaks like anime characters.
Thats a myth. Althouhh i dont recall anyone saying ara ara i know people say a ra ra. and ma ma is very common i say it myself.

It highly depends on the anime, though. It's generally safe to assume people don't speak like shounen characters, or characters in medieval themed works. But school settings and other more realistic works obviously try to draw from everyday life and the real word.
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when you get back @Tsukik0 , can you answer this for me?


あらあら you summoned me for this?

I was bored, okay? Do I need to pay more virgins to summon you? lol
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@3miL More virgins is always better

What's with the 30 characters thing that mal is doing now?
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RedFaction said:
Anime = autistic version of Japan 🗾
No one in Japan speaks like anime characters.

The same reason why no French person says "hon hon" and no Italian says "Mamma Mia" or why no Chinese person goes around saying "ching Chong chi ching che"


Italians do use "Mamma mia" but not in the stereotypical way you usually see. It's an exclamation which is used roughly in the same way anglophones use Jesus Christ. We do use Jesus Christ as well but in the past it was considered a blasphemy to use it.

I guess Japanese use those exclamations as well but not in the exagerated way you see in anime and manga
Ἄκουε δή, ἦ δ᾽ ὅς. φημὶ γὰρ ἐγὼ εἶναι τὸ δίκαιον οὐκ ἄλλο τι ἢ τὸ τοῦ κρείττονος συμφέρον.
Listen—I say that justice is nothing other than the advantage of the stronger.


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RedFaction said:
Anime = autistic version of Japan 🗾
No one in Japan speaks like anime characters.

The same reason why no French person says "hon hon" and no Italian says "Mamma Mia" or why no Chinese person goes around saying "ching Chong chi ching che"


Lmaooo this! ^^^

I don't even know what ara ara means.
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@3miL More virgins is always better

What's with the 30 characters thing that mal is doing now?

One virgin (you) is enough for me hahahahhaha

The 30 char limit has been there for a while now though, wdym?
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I'm fluent in Japanese, but I seriously don't even know what Ma Ma is supposed to mean. If it is a long a, then it can mean so-so, and yes, many people use it. Other than that there is mama, which means mother, and pretty much only kids use it.

Nobody I know says Ara Ara, except for my former manager who was a guy in his late 40s.
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@3miL I'm used to FG haha
Also sorry I'm not a virgin lol
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@3miL I'm used to FG haha
Also sorry I'm not a virgin lol

Ah, yeah FG is pretty much the most laidback amongst all the boards



don't worry I'm not the only one after your ass, lmfao jk
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[感]《感動詞「あら」を重ねた語》感動したり驚いたりしたときに発する語。 多く女性が使う。 「―、こんなに泥んこになって」

荒々 あらあら means rough or wild

まあまあ 
1 驚きや意外な気持ちを表す語。あらあら。おやおや。「―、よくいらっしゃいました」「―、こんなことをして」

2 相手を抑えなだめるときに用いる語。「―そう言うなよ」

儘 まま まあまあ as it is, leave in current state
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@3mil oh? Give me names lol

Don't mind this part
I need more characters for count
Pls don't ban me uwu (´・ω・`)
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@3mil oh? Give me names lol

I dunno specifically lol, I was just joking about weebs fetishizing Japanese people lol

better edit that part, you might get banned.
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3miL said:
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@3mil oh? Give me names lol

I dunno specifically lol, I was just joking about weebs fetishizing Japanese people lol

better edit that part, you might get banned.


I fixed it,, plus my mod friend will have my back
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Tsukik0 said:
3miL said:

I dunno specifically lol, I was just joking about weebs fetishizing Japanese people lol

better edit that part, you might get banned.


I fixed it,, plus my mod friend will have my back

you kinda didn't. Just talk about your cats or something lmao

but okay, if you trust him. I don't trust any of them lmao
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@3mil check it again lol by the way, I don't think I've ever said a double あらあら or heard anyone my age say it
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@3mil check it again lol by the way, I don't think I've ever said a double あらあら or heard anyone my age say it

Okay lol, now that's just begging for trouble. lmao

Okay, let them be the judge lol
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Definitly not as often, but if the word exist it exists. On my native language we have some thing similar to "Ara ara" wich is "Ora ora" but rn people use it mostly ironically.
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ara ara
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/%E3%81%82%E3%82%89%E3%81%82%E3%82%89/
This interjection is made by repeating the word 'ara', which itself is used as an expression of surprise and is primarily used by females. It appears that the meaning itself remains the same, but by repeating 'ara', it gives a reinforcing tone, if that makes sense? You'll notice that in some anime, a female character might say "arara', or even "arararararara" (if i recall, one of the teachers in Kiniro Mosaic said it at one point. the interjection is repeated for effect). Again, that's an expression of surprise.

maa maa
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/%E3%81%BE%E3%81%82%E3%81%BE%E3%81%82/
apparently, it can be used to express surprise and is similar to ara ara and oya oya

ara maa
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/%E3%81%82%E3%82%89%E3%81%BE%E3%81%82/#jn-7309
This interjection is made by combining 'ara' and 'maa' and is used to express a mild surprise, and is said to be used primarily by females.

i guess an English approximation could be
ara ara = oh oh.
ara maa = oh dear.
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3miL said:
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@3mil check it again lol by the way, I don't think I've ever said a double あらあら or heard anyone my age say it

Okay lol, now that's just begging for trouble. lmao

Okay, let them be the judge lol


They won't because I offered very valuable insight to this forum question and they wouldn't ban a cute real life japanese girl (・ัω・ั)(๑´•.̫ • `๑)
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and they wouldn't ban a cute real life japanese girl (・ัω・ั)(๑´•.̫ • `๑)

This is probably the most believable part of your statement. Well, at the very least someone might just slap you with a warning since you're cute

or just ignore it altogether for the same reason
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"Ma ma" is uncommon there.

Really? I've watched quite a lot of Japanese films (like live-action, not animated) with, at least I think so, realistic and organic conversations. They do say "ma ma" from time to time it seems.
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I can't speak for "Ara Ara", but all I know is that they do use "Ma Ma" to invoke their mothers and politely ask them to manipulate the fabric of space-time to find their missing hairclip.
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Evolved_KiR4T said:
"Ma ma" is uncommon there.

Really? I've watched quite a lot of Japanese films (like live-action, not animated) with, at least I think so, realistic and organic conversations. They do say "ma ma" from time to time it seems.


I'm a young japanese and ice heard mama more than Ara Ara. But mama is more masculine.ive heard "are" more than Ara Ara, but are is used in slightly different situations though
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Preachee said:

Really? I've watched quite a lot of Japanese films (like live-action, not animated) with, at least I think so, realistic and organic conversations. They do say "ma ma" from time to time it seems.


I'm a young japanese and ice heard mama more than Ara Ara. But mama is more masculine.ive heard "are" more than Ara Ara, but are is used in slightly different situations though

I've heard "are" a fuck-ton of times already, inquisitively or otherwise. I've heard of "ara" too, but NEVER "ara ara" in Japanese films, for whatever reason. So I just assumed ara ara is some deformed anime lingo never used irl.
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Only because it may be hard to translate those expressions to English, that doesn't mean that they don't mean anything. "Ara ara" and "maa maa" clearly have meanings.

"Maa maa" is used when one is trying to attenuate the seriousness of a situation, be it because one has been rebuked by another, or because two persons are having a heated discussion and someone else appears trying to calm them so as to prevent them from fighting each other.

Just reading "maa maa" makes me imagine someone pushing the air in front of them twice slightly with the palms of both hands facing forwards and with a forced smile.
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"Do real life Japanese women use Ara Ara and Ma Ma?"

yes, they use it in every single sentence
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Only because it may be hard to translate those expressions to English, that doesn't mean that they don't mean anything. "Ara ara" and "maa maa" clearly have meanings.

"Maa maa" is used when one is trying to attenuate the seriousness of a situation, be it because one has been rebuked by another, or because two persons are having a heated discussion and someone else appears trying to calm them so as to prevent them from fighting each other.

Just reading "maa maa" makes me imagine someone pushing the air in front of them twice slightly with the palms of both hands facing forwards and with a forced smile.


I've posted the actual meanings earlier if you're interested
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i see no point in copy-pasting the definitions from an online Japanese dictionary, since most people here can't read Japanese. i would recommend posting the source you used next time as well.
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Tsukik0 said:
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Only because it may be hard to translate those expressions to English, that doesn't mean that they don't mean anything. "Ara ara" and "maa maa" clearly have meanings.

"Maa maa" is used when one is trying to attenuate the seriousness of a situation, be it because one has been rebuked by another, or because two persons are having a heated discussion and someone else appears trying to calm them so as to prevent them from fighting each other.

Just reading "maa maa" makes me imagine someone pushing the air in front of them twice slightly with the palms of both hands facing forwards and with a forced smile.


I've posted the actual meanings earlier if you're interested

Yes, I noticed that you posted some explanations in Japanese about their meanings.
But I just tried to explain in English, since this is an English forum, with my own words what that expression means.
Words and expressions have a lot more meanings than those that are shown in dictionaries. And I think that trying to explain with one's own words the meaning of something is a good way to train one's writing skills and to wonder about how much one is really grasping the meaning properly.
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i see no point in copy-pasting the definitions from an online Japanese dictionary, since most people here can't read Japanese.


So you're saying that Tsukik0 should underestimate the level of knowledge of other people instead of recognizing that if she knows a language then there's possibility that other people know it as well?

I feel like if I can speak in a language, I would be insulting the intelligence of other people by talking to them while taking for granted that they can't do it as well, even though I can do it.

I wouldn't write in Japanese here, but not because I'm arrogant enough to suppose that other people wouldn't be able to understand it, but only because this is an English forum, so it makes more sense to write in English.

And it's the same thing if you're starting a conversation with someone on the street in some country. If you're in France it makes no sense to start speaking in German all of a sudden, not because you should suppose that the other person does not have a skill that you have, but because you're in a country in which one normally uses the French language to talk.

So I agree with you that Tsukik0 should probably write in English instead of posting some definitions in Japanese from a dictionary, but for different reasons.

And I add the word 'probably' here because this is a forum about anime, and anime is in Japanese by definition, so it somehow makes sense to talk in Japanese in this forum, and therefore I don't really think that Tsukik0 is necessarily totally wrong.
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https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/%E3%81%BE%E3%81%82%E3%81%BE%E3%81%82/

How common is 3.1 in real-life situations? I literally had no idea it could mean that until I saw that. I hear "are" quite often, but almost never "Ara Ara."
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Mummykun said:
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i see no point in copy-pasting the definitions from an online Japanese dictionary, since most people here can't read Japanese.


So you're saying that Tsukik0 should underestimate the level of knowledge of other people instead of recognizing that if she knows a language then there's possibility that other people know it as well?

I feel like if I can speak in a language, I would be insulting the intelligence of other people by talking to them while taking for granted that they can't do it as well, even though I can do it.

I wouldn't write in Japanese here, but not because I'm arrogant enough to suppose that other people wouldn't be able to understand it, but only because this is an English forum, so it makes more sense to write in English.

And it's the same thing if you're starting a conversation with someone on the street in some country. If you're in France it makes no sense to start speaking in German all of a sudden, not because you should suppose that the other person does not have a skill that you have, but because you're in a country in which one normally uses the French language to talk.

So I agree with you that Tsukik0 should probably write in English instead of posting some definitions in Japanese from a dictionary, but for different reasons.

And I add the word 'probably' here because this is a forum about anime, and anime is in Japanese by definition, so it somehow makes sense to talk in Japanese in this forum, and therefore I don't really think that Tsukik0 is necessarily totally wrong.


I don't know why you're talking about arrogance. I only said that most people here don't speak Japanese. The community of Japanese speakers and learners on MAL is actually quite small and niche. Most people here don't know the language, either because they have no interest in it, or some other personal reason.
Just because MAL is an anime forum, that doesn't imply people are necessarily knowledgeable in the Japanese language.

Also, copy and pasting some info on the web is not what i would call "talking in Japanese".

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You'd have to ask someone who has spent a considerable time in Japan. Using maa maa to express surprise like ara ara is probably, probably not common (though i could be wrong). I would expect that in real life, you'd see women using only one ara to express surprise, and very sparingly.
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I am sorry
Ok I wanted to post the straight source material because it would be most accurate source of information. I used goo辞書 dictionary. I'm a young Japanese girl so I'm giving my personal experience of a young person in japan.

Mama and Ara Ara can essentially mean the same thing.
Both are used to show surprise or questioning. Ma ma can also be used to calm a situation. Mama basically means: as is or continuing a current state. So basically they are saying keep it in the state of non agitated.

Ara originally has the meaning of being rough or wild. It is the same word for storms. but can also be used in surprised or puzzlement situation.

Now for usage. As young Japanese I never hear young people day Ara Ara. I've heard some older Japanese women say it

Mama is more common. I have heard men of all ages say it.

Sorry for my bad English I you have further questions on clarifications I can try to help
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https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/%E3%81%BE%E3%81%82%E3%81%BE%E3%81%82/

How common is 3.1 in real-life situations? I literally had no idea it could mean that until I saw that. I hear "are" quite often, but almost never "Ara Ara."
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https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/%E3%81%BE%E3%81%82%E3%81%BE%E3%81%82/

How common is 3.1 in real-life situations? I literally had no idea it could mean that until I saw that. I hear "are" quite often, but almost never "Ara Ara."


3.1 まぁまぁ is not as common as 3.2 
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I had recently had this video show up in my YouTube recommendations. This guy intentionally slipped in an "ara ara" at around the 7:15 mark given the opportunity and his unaware friend didn't laugh or find it odd to say so I guess it's normal enough in Japanese even if not that common?

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traed said:
I had recently had this video show up in my YouTube recommendations. This guy intentionally slipped in an "ara ara" at around the 7:15 mark given the opportunity and his unaware friend didn't laugh or find it odd to say so I guess it's normal enough in Japanese even if not that common?

YT Video

Love that dude, he's so charismatic and speaks in a way that is easy to understand. And his poor friend. There was another video in which he called him to say he was "kawaii" for an experiment.



At the 4:20 mark. (haha drug number)

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