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| My god, this was surely the best episode for now. Registically it was just on another level, also i finally start to see where this is going and i'm loving it, seems like we're going full into spokon deconstruction. "Where i did wrong? What was my mistake?" and the answer is nothing, you simply weren't gifted, there's no friendship, effort and victory for you. Anyone that fell short in anything despite their effort (there's someone that didn't?) cannot but empathize with a character we were drawn to hate until immediatly before. Tsukimoto tho is way colder than i thought, but i guess when you present a character as smileless and seemingly emotionless it would be incoherent not to make him act that way. What felt weird is the fact that supposedly he hold back because of his empathy toward others. Maybe his training to become competitive is also making him too unempathic? |
Oznerol7Dec 18, 2021 3:30 PM
Atavistic said: Why does Tsukimoto's stance on and overall approach to ping pong seem to change constantly without any rhyme or reason? One minute he doesn't care about winning or trying, next he's mocking others as not being good enough or worth his time. It feels like most of his development is taking place offscreen and that we're just seeing the end result here and there, whereas the development of characters like Kong, Peco, Kazama and even Sakuma feels far better-executed and much easier to understand even though they aren't the main character. Gotta agree, i think it may have something to do with him trying to become "the machine" he see himself while playing, since it seems empathy toward others (and specifically Peco) was the thing holding him down. But yeah wouldn't have hurt to see some of this development, i don't get why the hell Yuasa always need to make his series so short lol |
| Why are they saying Peco put on weight? It almost looks like he lost some weight instead - at least in the face. Strange... Dang, Smile telling it like it is in the end... |
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| Maybe I missed what Smile's motivation is to suddenly give a shit... is it spite? Is it "might as well see how far I can push this"? Does he deep down, in the same place this empathy is supposedly hiding, have a drive to see himself putting his all into the game? |
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| what a profound outro for this episode puts in perspective how different characters are taking the InterHigh tourney ,, and how they cope with loss Wenge is starting his development arc , becoming more of a leader and team player ... he still misses his couch , tho understandable Peco is smoking and slacking .. completely gave up on the sport Demon ,, who trains obsessively , doesn't have the natural talent to carry him to the top .. losing to a childhood friend he once viewed as unworthy led to his self-sabotage .. Smile .. becoming more of a machine by the day ,, but its alienating him from the team and his friends ... I never understood Dragon's teammate who's obsessed with his girlfriend .. but he's the fake friend archetype , one who's suppose to throw Dragon off his game .. an internal conflict like Ceaser in Rome , or Hesus and the 12 Disciples |
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| Another great episode. Very well directed. I love the cinematography and framing. |
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| Smile totally broke Sakuma's life dream on this one, still he is too arrogant, both of them are. (Cool info I got from other fan so credit tohim) On 12:00 minute exactly The poster in Sakuma's dorm room depicts Kōkichi Tsuburaya, a Japanese marathoner who committed suicide four years after being passed in the final stretch of a 1964 Olympic event. Suffering from back problems and unable to live with the shame of losing, he was found dead in a dorm room clutching his bronze medal. Sanada finds this poster disturbing, showing that Sakuma is (metaphorically) willing, or prepared, to die for table tennis. :) |
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| The subtlety of the scene with Kong's mother is probably my favorite scene in the entire anime. Sakuma got cooked. |
| Kong is slowly becoming my favourite character from this anime. I hope we can see more of him! And welp. Sakuma has been forced to give up and Peco has given up on table tennis. |
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ZUTl said: This is from my release of the show & the translation/cultural notes I wrote up to along with it :)(Cool info I got from other fan so credit tohim) On 12:00 minute exactly The poster in Sakuma's dorm room depicts Kōkichi Tsuburaya, a Japanese marathoner who committed suicide four years after being passed in the final stretch of a 1964 Olympic event. Suffering from back problems and unable to live with the shame of losing, he was found dead in a dorm room clutching his bronze medal. Sanada finds this poster disturbing, showing that Sakuma is (metaphorically) willing, or prepared, to die for table tennis. :) https://frozenpandaman.github.io/ppta/references.txt Thanks! |
| Peco's gotten depressed over the loss, that's for sure. Overeating is only the first stage of depression, and giving up is the second one. Peco going through both isn't looking the best rn. And poor Sakuma over here's going through it as well. Everyone has their different ways of coping after a loss, the two prime examples being from this episode is ofc, the Peco and Sakuma route, where you give in and give up. Then you have the Smile route of only using it as a platform to better yourself. Incredible episode, dare I say best one yet. |
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| Good episode akuma destroyed and got kicked off the team lmao was cool to see a little bit of hid childhood |
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| That was another amazing episode. It was really good seeing everyone going in different directions. Things really have changed so quickly the character development has been great in such a short amount of time. Is Peco really giving up on Ping Pon? It was nice to see him at the beach doing something different and enjoying himself. Demon gettich wrecked by Smile was awesome. Smile really has changed since the tournament. I do not see him joining Kaio Academy though I know Kazama is not going to give up. Speaking of Kazama, what kind of pressure is this guy putting on himself to recruit Smile and restore the school to its former glory? I can't help but feel like he is going ruin his relationships with his teammates and lose to Smile in the end. This is such a great series I wish I would have watched it sooner. The best scene in this episode imo was Kong getting the package from his mother with the grey hair. He has been away from her for so long and he's missed out on so much, what a great way to represent that. Such a touching yet understated moment. |
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Kong is slowly becoming my favourite character from this anime. I hope we can see more of him!
And welp. Sakuma has been forced to give up and Peco has given up on table tennis.
And welp. Sakuma has been forced to give up and Peco has given up on table tennis.
| @troilus_05s He is growing on me as well, he may have the most development so far. That scene with him receiving that box from his mom was so deep. |
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The subtlety of the scene with Kong's mother is probably my favorite scene in the entire anime.
Sakuma got cooked.
Sakuma got cooked.
| @Etherius_ZS I'm glad I am not the only one who appreciated it. |
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@troilus_05s He is growing on me as well, he may have the most development so far. That scene with him receiving that box from his mom was so deep.
| @logic340 OH yes, I remember that scene. I loved it as well. And thank you for bringing me back to this anime. I really need to rewatch it. I still remember the plot and the overall story themes, character arcs, etc., but I feel like I need to watch it again to absorb everything properly. I hope you enjoy the rest of the show! |
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| See, that's the difference between "losing your passion" and "crashing out." Peko, learning he's not the big dog he saw himself as, is doing some soul-searching to figure out what he's going to live for now. But Akuma? Yeeeah...that was like the guy who gets super drunk and crashes his car after his wife says she wants a divorce. Akuma may have been a bit of a prick, but that was still rough to watch. Hopefully they both pull themselves together. |
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