Do you thnk older Anime (older than 2010) are better than modern Anime (2010+) or are they are just about the same? Just wanted to know your people's view
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Are older Anime better?
Yes
20.2%
52
No. Modern anime is better
14.0%
36
Both contain their fare shares of duds/garbage and masterpieces.
65.8%
169
257 votes
Jan 21, 2022 4:56 PM
#51
Jan 21, 2022 4:59 PM
#52
| No matter the time period, there are always bad and good anime out there. As time passes people forget the old bad (unless it is memorably bad), so it seems like only the newer ones are bad. |
Jan 21, 2022 5:02 PM
#53
Zircon_Lotus said: really wonder if people remember Street fight movie because of Mr. Raul's performance or the film's great plot?No matter the time period, there are always bad and good anime out there. As time passes people forget the old bad (unless it is memorably bad), so it seems like only the newer ones are bad. |
Jan 21, 2022 5:11 PM
#54
anirudhtsuki said: Animaniaig said: Older anime is significantly more creative, interesting and passion filled as a whole. There are still bad older anime, and no shortage at that, but even those were more interesting than modern bad things for the most part. Modern anime is a lot more mass, as well as under, produced with less passion, more formulaic and safe because modern trends pander to the NEETaku audience. Neither of are all bad or good but there's a less variety and creative freedom now than there used to be due to anime's strictly business mindset now. There's still a good portion of good things produced but it does get eclipsed by worse things often times with this season being an example. This image comparison shows how bad Anime were. Granted this is biased but reading your comment this seems appropriate. Having watched quite a few of those anime, all on the right and a very significant portion on the left, there isn't actually many more good ones on either side if any at all. It's very biased and when I think about bad older anime I think more along yhe lines of Kareshi Kanojo, El Hazard or Orphen (though the newer one was worse) not Urusei Yatsura, Gunbuster, Lupin III or Dirty Pair. In comparison when I think of bad modern anime I think of things like Angel Beats, High School DxD, Shuumatsu no Harem and Mushoku Tensei/other modern isekai. The comparison is pretty worthless because you could remake it with the whole thing reversed just using anime from this season. |
Jan 21, 2022 5:20 PM
#55
| Well, the fact that i only have one pre-2010 anime on my fav list says much about what i think about it. |
Jan 21, 2022 5:21 PM
#56
WillSnK said: thank you for your valuable feedback.Well, the fact that i only have one pre-2010 anime on my fav list says much about what i think about it. |
Jan 21, 2022 5:27 PM
#57
| Anime isn't "old" to me unless it was drawn on cels. Anyway, older anime on average had better backgrounds. Even really shitty garbage tier anime from the 90s or earlier had really pretty backgrounds. Nowadays, some of the best anime ever made have godawful CGI backgrounds. I may be the only person on Earth that cares this much about backgrounds, but a bad background that clashes with the rest of the show can take me out of a show entirely, and a good background is a work of art in its own right. What can I say, I'm a background otaku. I also find the art styles of 90s and early 2000s anime to be more appealing to me than modern anime. That's what "anime" is supposed to look like for me. Iiiin other words, the quality is more or less the same, I just prefer the visuals of older anime. |
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Jan 21, 2022 9:23 PM
#58
| I tend to prefer older anime because that's what I grew up on and stylistically it seems to catch my attention more than the newer works. But older anime and modern anime both have their fair share of duds and masterpieces. |
Jan 21, 2022 9:31 PM
#59
| i have 2 animes out of the 7 in my favourites that came before 2010,i usually prefer the animes that came around 2012-2018 i guess,like i dont think violet evergarden or fate series or a lot of animes would be a hit if they came before the 2010s,cant really imagine them like this,oh wait we do have the saber route of fate/stay night and everyone knws how that turned out F |
Jan 21, 2022 9:38 PM
#60
| Story wise I'd say it's all subjective of course, but art and animation wise, I absolutely love stuff from around the 90s era ie. ghost in the shell holds up so well today and the amount of detail knowing it was hand drawn is just insane, but that's not to take way from shows these days that look really good like Demon Slayer or Land of the Lustrous. |
Jan 21, 2022 10:21 PM
#61
| Pre-2010s easily...Why? Let's disregard the production quality(which only improves the more recent an anime is regardless of the quality of said anime; ex: Boruto vs Naruto) After 2010 the seasonal anime trend started, with the constant copies of the most popular animes of the time...all Isekai. The best anime of the 2010s were (the majority) remakes, adaptations of old running mangas and from 2013 up until 2018~19 you had barely any good anime(you can actually count them with your fingers)...if you think I'm wrong, you're probably thinkingof an anime with great visuals and animation and nothing more to it(maybe feels) Let me remind you that anime like Keijo!!! were massively successful(then completely forgotten), while others like Golden Kamuy are barely mentioned...not only the animes were worse, the critical analysis of the community became worse...seriously as soon as something becomes popular it ranks in the top 100 anime...Imagine if DBZ, Sailor Moon or Saint Seiya came out now with the same clout they had in the 90s xD |
Jan 21, 2022 10:32 PM
#62
Helltaker said: Sakuta002766 said: Helltaker said: Anime is better than ever, modern anime has more variety, better art-style and animation. I do however agree that each period contains both good and bad anime. How does modern anime has more variety than old anime? Also, How does modern anime has better art style? Please explain In winter of 1982 there were 4 new anime in the winter of 2002 there were 16 new anime, in winter of 2022 there are 41 new anime. There are more anime being produced now than ever before so the overall choice is much higher there is something for everyone. Moe art-style has been perfected over the years and has become industry standard. We went from awkwardness of original Kanon and Chobits to Haruhi Suzumiya and Clannad and all the way to K-On, Hyouka and Chunibyo. Thank you, you posted the same anime with updated visuals and then called it variety xD ... Good job |
Jan 21, 2022 10:42 PM
#63
| Man i just wanna enjoy some fucking shows this old vs new shit is overrated. |
Jan 21, 2022 10:47 PM
#64
| Both contain their fare shares of duds/garbage and masterpieces. (your vote) On a side note, I wouldn't call anime older than 2010 "old"... |
Jan 21, 2022 10:59 PM
#65
Eziprez said: "older" Anime. I feel like modern Anime started from 2010 with SAO and Attack on Titans. So i just chose it.Both contain their fare shares of duds/garbage and masterpieces. (your vote) On a side note, I wouldn't call anime older than 2010 "old"... |
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Jan 21, 2022 11:46 PM
#66
JustN0tMe said: Helltaker said: Sakuta002766 said: Helltaker said: Anime is better than ever, modern anime has more variety, better art-style and animation. I do however agree that each period contains both good and bad anime. How does modern anime has more variety than old anime? Also, How does modern anime has better art style? Please explain In winter of 1982 there were 4 new anime in the winter of 2002 there were 16 new anime, in winter of 2022 there are 41 new anime. There are more anime being produced now than ever before so the overall choice is much higher there is something for everyone. Moe art-style has been perfected over the years and has become industry standard. We went from awkwardness of original Kanon and Chobits to Haruhi Suzumiya and Clannad and all the way to K-On, Hyouka and Chunibyo. Thank you, you posted the same anime with updated visuals and then called it variety xD ... Good job Maybe you should learn to read before commenting? It's fairly obvious from the context that image is in relation to how art-style has evolved over the years. I already explained why modern anime has more variety, but you conveniently chose to ignore that part and create a strawman argument instead. The funniest part is that not even your strawman argument works since those anime for the most part don't have that much in common and are certainly not the same anime with updated visuals as you claim. |
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Jan 21, 2022 11:59 PM
#67
Helltaker said: JustN0tMe said: Helltaker said: Sakuta002766 said: Helltaker said: Anime is better than ever, modern anime has more variety, better art-style and animation. I do however agree that each period contains both good and bad anime. How does modern anime has more variety than old anime? Also, How does modern anime has better art style? Please explain In winter of 1982 there were 4 new anime in the winter of 2002 there were 16 new anime, in winter of 2022 there are 41 new anime. There are more anime being produced now than ever before so the overall choice is much higher there is something for everyone. Moe art-style has been perfected over the years and has become industry standard. We went from awkwardness of original Kanon and Chobits to Haruhi Suzumiya and Clannad and all the way to K-On, Hyouka and Chunibyo. Thank you, you posted the same anime with updated visuals and then called it variety xD ... Good job Maybe you should learn to read before commenting? It's fairly obvious from the context that image is in relation to how art-style has evolved over the years. I already explained why modern anime has more variety, but you conveniently chose to ignore that part and create a strawman argument instead. The funniest part is that not even your strawman argument works since those anime for the most part don't have that much in common and are certainly not the same anime with updated visuals as you claim. I've read it before...more anime != more variety; evolution of the production value is expected and the animes posted have the same appeal, just because some of the plot is different doesn't make the anime different...if that was the case many of the DBZ clones wouldn't fit the bill |
Jan 22, 2022 1:43 AM
#68
anirudhtsuki said: CuteAssTiger said: highly likely since new viewers will avoid it because of the bad rumours surrounding it. Besides Isekai genre will not be trending anymore and go back to being niche like Mecha, and Space Opera.I think people just don't remember the bad anime of the past. Or do you think in 20 years anyone will remember Isekai smartphone ? Not even nessesarly this. New tend to be more into isekai. I just think that the bad and average stories will simply be forgotten. It's like most things |
Jan 22, 2022 1:47 AM
#69
WatchTillTandava said: CuteAssTiger said: I think people just don't remember the bad anime of the past. Or do you think in 20 years anyone will remember Isekai smartphone ? You can still, however, compare the best (your best/preferred) of one time period against another and draw some conclusions from that. It isn't so much the amount of mediocre to bad anime which is the decisive factor for many people (since they don't have to watch and many won't watch the majority of those anyway), but the amount of good and excellent ones. Not so sure about that tbh. Often people kind of act like anime of the past were just better in general. It would be fair to compare today's greats to the past. Tho i haven't laid out a timeline to actually see how often something brilliant arrives |
Jan 22, 2022 1:52 AM
#70
humantwig said: The amount of garbage has increased now days so on average the quality has gone down... tho the amount of amazing ones are probably the same. CuteAssTiger said: I only remember this gem when telling people about my my 1/10'sI think people just don't remember the bad anime of the past. Or do you think in 20 years anyone will remember Isekai smartphone ? It'll always come back to haunt me that I rated this a 7 when I first watched it. really ? Have you ever taken the time to go back to whatever season we classify as the past and taken a look at their animes. The good ones are remembered for sure but the rest is just forgotten. What I'm getting at is that the amount of anime coming out has stayed the same yet we only remember the good ones from the past. How can we accurately say that the rest of them didn't contain as much garbage as today's anime ? It might just be a recency bias. Similar to how people conceive that the world is becoming worse and worse when in reality we live in the best time period ever. |
Jan 22, 2022 1:53 AM
#71
anirudhtsuki said: humantwig said: have you taken into account the the factor that the number of Anime has grown exponentially since the 90s. Especially the the mainstream ones. Of course, there will be more "garbage" compared to the older days.The amount of garbage has increased now days so on average the quality has gone down... tho the amount of amazing ones are probably the same. CuteAssTiger said: I think people just don't remember the bad anime of the past. Or do you think in 20 years anyone will remember Isekai smartphone ? It'll always come back to haunt me that I rated this a 7 when I first watched it. I haven't noted any actual data but when I was scrolling through older seasons it seemed to me like the number of anime coming out was pretty much the same. I could be wrong tho |
Jan 22, 2022 1:57 AM
#72
CuteAssTiger said: Wonder which Isekai model will be popular, born from a baby ones like Jobless or both genderbant in the future like Hero's daughter or burn in the future like Misfit or my personal favourite Otome Isekais. With the looks of thing i thnk born into the futuy shows promise anirudhtsuki said: CuteAssTiger said: I think people just don't remember the bad anime of the past. Or do you think in 20 years anyone will remember Isekai smartphone ? Not even nessesarly this. New tend to be more into isekai. I just think that the bad and average stories will simply be forgotten. It's like most things |
Jan 22, 2022 2:04 AM
#73
CuteAssTiger said: exponentially may be and exaggeration looking at the data but they have increased drastically. From 20-50 per year to 120-150 per year. anirudhtsuki said: humantwig said: The amount of garbage has increased now days so on average the quality has gone down... tho the amount of amazing ones are probably the same. CuteAssTiger said: I only remember this gem when telling people about my my 1/10'sI think people just don't remember the bad anime of the past. Or do you think in 20 years anyone will remember Isekai smartphone ? It'll always come back to haunt me that I rated this a 7 when I first watched it. I haven't noted any actual data but when I was scrolling through older seasons it seemed to me like the number of anime coming out was pretty much the same. I could be wrong tho https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Anime_television_series_by_year |
Jan 22, 2022 2:17 AM
#74
| There were some really good anime that came out from 2010-2016 but after 2016 was just trash. 2000-2010 was definitely better imo |
Jan 22, 2022 2:50 AM
#75
anirudhtsuki said: CuteAssTiger said: exponentially may be and exaggeration looking at the data but they have increased drastically. From 20-50 per year to 120-150 per year. anirudhtsuki said: humantwig said: have you taken into account the the factor that the number of Anime has grown exponentially since the 90s. Especially the the mainstream ones. Of course, there will be more "garbage" compared to the older days.The amount of garbage has increased now days so on average the quality has gone down... tho the amount of amazing ones are probably the same. CuteAssTiger said: I only remember this gem when telling people about my my 1/10'sI think people just don't remember the bad anime of the past. Or do you think in 20 years anyone will remember Isekai smartphone ? It'll always come back to haunt me that I rated this a 7 when I first watched it. I haven't noted any actual data but when I was scrolling through older seasons it seemed to me like the number of anime coming out was pretty much the same. I could be wrong tho https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Anime_television_series_by_year Fair fair Now we just got to check how many of those we actually know . But we would somehow have to adjust for remembering newer ones more clearly |
Jan 22, 2022 3:00 AM
#76
Jan 22, 2022 3:04 AM
#77
| Yes,i tend to enjoy older anime more and nowdays anime look-like plastic |
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Jan 22, 2022 3:14 AM
#78
| Generally yes. Pre 2010s anime were better especially late 1995 to late 2000s (Evangelion to Fmab). Also yes every era has their own ups and downs but in terms of masterpieces (as in 10/10 tho not "perfect"), 2010 onwards is yet to offer me any. |
Jan 22, 2022 4:49 AM
#79
| Hm, 1 decade vs 5 decades. Very hard to pick... People picking the 1 decade are totally not doing so because of recency and exposure bias, barely having seen anything older. No sir, it's the people who pick the 5+ decades who do so out of bias and nostalgia and not because it's fucking 5 decades vs 1 decade of output... (This thread in a nutshell) Seriously, if you do such an uneven split the only reasonable pick is old anime. You get 5+ decades so there's simply gonna be a higher quantity of top tier shows as well as a much larger variation in styles and themes since those tend to change over time as well. So both in depth and breadth the pool of pre-2010 anime would win out when you do such an unfair split. It's like asking whether 2010s movies are better than all the previous movies since the film medium was born. Of course they aren't, and the only people who think otherwise are people with recency bias who barely experienced anything before 2010. Drawing the line at 2010 is such a zoomer move btw. What's the reason to draw the line there? Any significant difference between 2009 and 2011 anime? Or is it just anything before you wern born or before you got into anime is called 'old'? I'll never get these arbitrary lines being drawn in the sand. At least pick ~2000 where there were significant changes in the way anime looked and was being produced and distributed. so there is a relatively clear-cut difference between before and after. Not just more of the same on either side of the split. |
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Jan 22, 2022 6:02 AM
#80
| first of all 2010 isn't old !!! second no. i don't think the "old" stuff is better but we had more time to filter out the good shit from them. what i mean is the average has not changed but the "old" shows have stood the test of time and thus are better cuz normie hazard hasn't been brought upon them |
Jan 22, 2022 6:16 AM
#81
| Honestly, I get so sick of the hipster anime fans who think every anime from over 20 years ago is better than the stuff coming out today.i know there might be gems back then,but they seem to only praise it for being older instead of praising the good qualities about the anime regardless of age.Then since they're anime fans,they get so defensive that they will legit think anime from back then was the best to happen since sliced bread and everything new is the worst thing ever to a delusional degree. It's just annoying, really kills my vibe. |
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Jan 22, 2022 6:56 AM
#82
| I think both older anime and modern anime have their fair share of bad anime and masterpieces. One is not better than the other for me. |
Jan 22, 2022 7:49 AM
#83
| Out of 27 anime I gave 9 or 10 only 3 came before 2010 (Death Note, Perfect Blue, Bakemonogatari) so the answer is obvious for me I'm not a fan of old animation styles, they look flat and dull to me. Garden of Sinners is the oldest anime I can call beautiful. And for whatever reason, newer anime are a lot easier for me to get into |
Jan 22, 2022 8:01 AM
#84
MarkVijet said: You can release Garden of Sinners aa modern Anime and no one will complain.Out of 27 anime I gave 9 or 10 only 3 came before 2010 (Death Note, Perfect Blue, Bakemonogatari) so the answer is obvious for me I'm not a fan of old animation styles, they look flat and dull to me. Garden of Sinners is the oldest anime I can call beautiful. And for whatever reason, newer anime are a lot easier for me to get into |
Jan 22, 2022 8:27 AM
#85
| According to my favorites, 4 are from the 2010s, 4 are from the 2000s, and 2 are from the 90s, so I'd say they're pretty balanced Breakdown: 1990s - Cardcaptor Sakura (1998) - One Piece (1999) 2000s - Princess Tutu (2003) - Higurashi no naku Koro ni (2006) - Gintama (2006) - Toradora (2008) Post-2000s - Steins;Gate (2011) - High Score Girl (2018) - Toaru Kagaku no Railgun T (2020) - Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Season 2 Part 2 (2021) |
Jan 22, 2022 1:00 PM
#86
| imo modern shonen don't go nearly as hard. |
Jan 22, 2022 1:10 PM
#87
| As far as the story is concerned, both are pretty equal, each having their highs and lows, but I personally lean towards 2010+ cos one of my biggest turnoffs when watching anime is poor animation/outdated art, picture quality or character design. |
Jan 22, 2022 2:49 PM
#88
| Gee, about a century of anime vs the last decade, wonder which one is better. By your very narrow definition of old anime, I'd say it's better. |
Jan 22, 2022 3:51 PM
#89
| Now anime before 2010 are considered as older. Now I feel old lol. |
Jan 22, 2022 3:56 PM
#90
_Maneki-Neko_ said: I'm with you. I felt the same when vage Index and Toradora very old anime.Now anime before 2010 are considered as older. Now I feel old lol. |
Jan 23, 2022 2:38 AM
#91
KiritoBankai said: Modern anime is better for everyone who isn't a boomer or is suffering from nostalgia. This is literally what happens to people saying "Older anime are better". They just put the worst of today in comparison to the best of yesterday. Try to compare the number of good anime releasing every year to see the trend. Anyway I love the picture AHAHAHAHA |
Jan 23, 2022 3:31 AM
#92
| I do like new shows but I grew up with the moe moe uprising era from 2006 to 2011, i strongly prefer watching shows from that era and still get more enjoyment out of them than newer anime. |
Jan 23, 2022 6:08 AM
#93
Jan 23, 2022 7:44 AM
#94
Jan 23, 2022 1:34 PM
#95
| The old animation is kinda of annoying but some old animes are exceptions |
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Jan 23, 2022 2:49 PM
#96
| Neither is better. Any anime from any era can be really good or really shit. |
Jan 24, 2022 9:49 AM
#97
| Yes, personally my cut off line where there starts to be a huge downgrade in quality is around 2006. Not that there's not some good stuff to come out since, it just pales in comparison. Some stand out, like Attack on Titan, Demon Slayer, and HxH 2011, but I don't think they reach that greatness, just good to really good. Most modern anime all looks and sounds the same, generic looking art styles, that all seems too clean and flashy or shiny, lack of original or creative ideas. Not to mention the horrid music that has taken over the anime landscape, it's all the same, j pop, emo rock, generic crap, older anime had music that complimented the show, and helped form an identity, to me newer stuff just all blends together into a sea of mediocrity. On a side note, I did quite enjoy psycho pass 1, and believe it to be the best modern anime iv'e watched so far, it heavily draws from Ghost in the Shell in a lot of ways, and that's a good thing, it's refreshing and makes me forget i'm watching something from 2013, it's timeless. |
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