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Jan 19, 2022 9:37 AM
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Because he's sexy AF.
Jan 19, 2022 9:42 AM
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they don't! it's part of his character. there is no need for it to be justified.

think about it, if every character was justified then you wouldn't have "bad figures" would you?
Jan 19, 2022 10:13 AM
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Its not justified, he is a murderer that gets excited over kids and anyone who shows him potential to make a good fight. Thats why he is a good character, you dont have to be a correct person with values and ideals to be a well written character
Jan 19, 2022 10:20 AM

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60 posts in 12 hours holy cow. the hxh fans never fail to set the bar low when giving the anime community a bad name
Jan 19, 2022 10:22 AM

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Brex_10 said:
Multiple things

He's a villain, its expected for him to do/be bad things.

And he's not a pedo, he isn't attracted to kids he's attracted to a good fight to a fanatical degree that thinking of one arouses him. It just so happens that two of the people with the highest potential to give him the fight he desires are children, and even then not yet, he's waiting for them to become stronger (and therefore older).

He was doing the same thing with the leader of the phantom troop who wasnt a child, which should tell you He does not care about age or geder or any physicality, he only cares about fighting power and capability. Which he sees a lot of in Gon and Killua, rightfully so, they are extremely strong individuals.


this is simply not true at all. you can like him even tho hes a creep and likes kids, but trying to deny what he is, is insane. he literally asks if he can fuck killua
Jan 19, 2022 11:01 AM
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Dude it's a fictional character calm tf down lmao
Jan 19, 2022 12:21 PM
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NickCipolla said:
Its obviously not a secret that Hisoka is a pedo. Even if youre an hxhtard, the best you can give him is hes a creep and pervert. Multiple instances hes shown to be interested in kids, and is shown doing sexual gestures.

So whats up with the hype behind the dude? I guess its like Ted Bundy where a group of people just support someone psycho. HXH prob cant even continue up if it wanted to because it has a character thats attracted to kids


I GUESS A BETTER QUESTION IS: HOW DO PEOPLE JUSTIFY LIKING A PEDOPHILIA/PERVERT CHARACTER? WOULD THEY FEEL THE SAME ABOUT A RACIST ONE



Character = not real, so I don't care about how bad it's actions are morally, I watch anime to entertain myself, not to criticize the character's actions.
If a character is entertaining to watch or makes the plot better, then it fulfills it's rol as a character. Hisoka is a really entertaining character to watch, it's totally imposible to know what will he do next.

And as for your other question, the one about racism... Well, you know Floch Forster from AoT? He is by far my favorite character from that series, and he is a racist asshole, but his way of taking control ove the plot even when he is a secondary character that appears for 20 chapters only is incredible.
Jan 19, 2022 1:56 PM
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He's a villain. He's not a good person, obviously.
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Another banger thread by GodCipolla.
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Jan 19, 2022 2:08 PM
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Who cares? He's a fictional character and a villain at that. Why should we care about his morality? People love characters like The Joker and Hannibal Lecter. What's wrong with liking Hisoka? It's not like we're claiming he's a good person. He's just a charismatic antagonist.
Jan 19, 2022 2:10 PM
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NickCipolla said:
I GUESS A BETTER QUESTION IS: HOW DO PEOPLE JUSTIFY LIKING A PEDOPHILIA/PERVERT CHARACTER? WOULD THEY FEEL THE SAME ABOUT A RACIST ONE
Simple, he's a fictional character who happens to be likable despite having negative traits. You can ask this question about literally every antagonist or anti-hero in existence. How do you justify liking characters like Lelouch who've committed genocide and killed thousands of innocent people for what he believes is right?
Jan 19, 2022 2:12 PM

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331913 said:
NickCipolla said:
I GUESS A BETTER QUESTION IS: HOW DO PEOPLE JUSTIFY LIKING A PEDOPHILIA/PERVERT CHARACTER? WOULD THEY FEEL THE SAME ABOUT A RACIST ONE
Simple, he's a fictional character who happens to be likable despite having negative traits. You can ask this question about literally every antagonist or anti-hero in existence. How do you justify liking characters like Lelouch who've committed genocide and killed thousands of innocent people for what he believes is right?


did u just compare wanting to do kids to war? lol
Jan 19, 2022 2:15 PM
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NickCipolla said:
331913 said:
Simple, he's a fictional character who happens to be likable despite having negative traits. You can ask this question about literally every antagonist or anti-hero in existence. How do you justify liking characters like Lelouch who've committed genocide and killed thousands of innocent people for what he believes is right?


did u just compare wanting to do kids to war? lol
Committing genocide and wanting to have sex with children are both morally deplorable actions, so.. yes?

It's like you don't understand that antagonists are supposed to be flawed people. You'd have a point if HxH was depicting Hisoka as a good person, but it clearly doesn't.
Jan 19, 2022 2:16 PM

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331913 said:
NickCipolla said:


did u just compare wanting to do kids to war? lol
Committing genocide and wanting to have sex with children are both morally deplorable actions, so.. yes?

It's like you don't understand that antagonists are supposed to be flawed people. You'd have a point if HxH was depicting Hisoka as a good person, but it clearly doesn't.


war is sometimes neccessary. wanting to have sex with kids is not. youre really exposing your inner pervertedness if u are trying to justify this.
Jan 19, 2022 2:22 PM

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-Harald- said:
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60 posts in 12 hours holy cow. the hxh fans never fail to set the bar low when giving the anime community a bad name

Are you fcking a*hole, Cause you are giving me impression of...after this post.
You created a shit thread and then after 12 hour you come and edit it asking something else.

And who the fck said they like Hisoka for being pervert. It's not that he was in the show for that purpose. It was just 5 min scene if you add all those scenes , that doesn't justify his character .

People like him because he is unpredictable, his Nen is one of the most unique, his chaotic nature and other things. He helped Gon and Killua getting strong and many more things.
He is a massive ass hole bro. Dude goes around to peoples profiles insulting them and their taste if they rated an anime he dislikes high.

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NickCipolla said:
331913 said:
Committing genocide and wanting to have sex with children are both morally deplorable actions, so.. yes?

It's like you don't understand that antagonists are supposed to be flawed people. You'd have a point if HxH was depicting Hisoka as a good person, but it clearly doesn't.


war is sometimes neccessary. wanting to have sex with kids is not. youre really exposing your inner pervertedness if u are trying to justify this.
Lol are you really accusing me of being a pedophile because I'm explaining that antagonists aren't good people but you can still like them? Get a grip, my dude. You need to realize that these aren't real people. These are fictional characters who are flawed and written that way on purpose. I'm not even a huge fan of Hisoka, but this is common sense.

Maybe Lelouch wasn't the best example so I'll use someone else. The Joker is clearly evil and he's a murderer. Are people not allowed to like the Joker? Are you going to accuse Joker fans of secretly being murderers?

Let's take it a step further. Are people who play violent games like GTA or Call of Duty addicted to violence in real life? Are they going to shoot up schools? Are they not allowed to like these games and acknowledge that they're not real? Lol
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Moral to be learned here: Separate fiction from reality.

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Jan 19, 2022 3:30 PM
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Sinve when are you supposed to justify the actions of a villainous character aren't you supposed to not like them lol.
Jan 19, 2022 3:36 PM

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Since when has MAL become full of Twitter people?
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Jan 19, 2022 5:40 PM
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He”s not pedo, but definitely he had weird scenes
Jan 19, 2022 7:43 PM
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As usual idiots falling for this kids thread
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Dead ass. Y'all are saying some odd ish.
He's not hot. He's not daddy. Nothing about him is decent. If you like that and him (without tryna come off as offensive I swear) then you must be at the very least disturbed on the inside.
He's a pedo who's sexual insinuations towards young boys and aggressive behaviour make me cringe and uncomfortable. Genuinely why would you like that?
Justifying this dude is messed up.
Red flag for him and for those who see nothing disgusting about him.

Sorry for the rant that no asked for really just feel strongly about how gross he is
Its all straight up sick
I said what I said
Jan 19, 2022 9:27 PM
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Haha it’s odd, I never thought I’d love a character that’s so messed up. But is it really him being a pedo, or just attracted to those that are strong?? He just wants to fight strong people
Jan 19, 2022 10:27 PM

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MK17_2 said:
Dead ass. Y'all are saying some odd ish.
He's not hot. He's not daddy. Nothing about him is decent. If you like that and him (without tryna come off as offensive I swear) then you must be at the very least disturbed on the inside.
He's a pedo who's sexual insinuations towards young boys and aggressive behaviour make me cringe and uncomfortable. Genuinely why would you like that?
Justifying this dude is messed up.
Red flag for him and for those who see nothing disgusting about him.

Sorry for the rant that no asked for really just feel strongly about how gross he is
Its all straight up sick
I said what I said


Exactly. Like how can people in this thread acknowledge how weird Hisoka is, and say "we like him for other reasons"

Like bro theres dozens of strong dope characters in hxh and u choose to like the one who wants to do a kid lmaoooo. Imagine if any of these people said out loud what they commented, to someone in real life. They would definitely never see that person again
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331913 said:
NickCipolla said:


war is sometimes neccessary. wanting to have sex with kids is not. youre really exposing your inner pervertedness if u are trying to justify this.
Lol are you really accusing me of being a pedophile because I'm explaining that antagonists aren't good people but you can still like them? Get a grip, my dude. You need to realize that these aren't real people. These are fictional characters who are flawed and written that way on purpose. I'm not even a huge fan of Hisoka, but this is common sense.

Maybe Lelouch wasn't the best example so I'll use someone else. The Joker is clearly evil and he's a murderer. Are people not allowed to like the Joker? Are you going to accuse Joker fans of secretly being murderers?

Let's take it a step further. Are people who play violent games like GTA or Call of Duty addicted to violence in real life? Are they going to shoot up schools? Are they not allowed to like these games and acknowledge that they're not real? Lol


Again, no idea how much effort you are putting into these but they are god awful. The joker is obviously psychotic. Most people dont like the joker in the same way people like Hisoka. While people enjoy the joker (and mostly the actor who portrayed him), people idolize Hisoka. They try to brush off his bad aspect of literally wanting kids.

In this example it would be like people saying the joker is okay to run around blowing up hospitals because he has cute makeup. HXH fans will do anything to defend hisoka
Jan 19, 2022 10:35 PM

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This is actually an amazing thread lmfao
Jan 20, 2022 12:01 AM
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No one justifies him. Him being a pedophile is not what his character is all about. Besides being a pedophile, the writing in his story is really good and makes sense for the character. Also I think that people really like the whole unpredictability aspect to his character. But again, no one is justifying the pedophilia. People just think that he's a great written *character* in a *story.* People like him not because he's a pedophile but because he's responsible for a lot of the shit that happens in the story.

Also, bungee gum possesses the properties of both rubber and gum.
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Simply because it’s a ficcional character… it’s not real, .. simple as that. It makes no sense to compare him to a real character such as “Ted Bundy”. Let’s remember we are talking about anime here . Not real life.
Jan 20, 2022 5:52 AM

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Hisoka is the best god damn character in this series so everything he does is forgiven
Jan 20, 2022 5:56 AM
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This is a fucking dumb thought process...if people decided to spread the nazi or communist ideology in anime form it would be ok then, it's just drawings.

You can be critical of a character's actions(because they're supposed to represent some part of humans or human experience), while supporting their existence(which you and the OP can't figure out)
a character being a 'pedo' isn't pushing any ideology, theyre just fucking drawings, you can't push ideology through them

Except if someone is a fucking idiot who translates these drawings into the real world and compare them to the real world, yes ideologies can be pushed to these people through drawings, but whos fault is that? Their own and not the author


Saying that "drawings" can't push an ideology is pretty much like saying that words or letters in a book can't represent an existing ideology. I'm totally not saying that the author is promoting pedophilia by creating a pedophile villain. He probably did it for fun or because a person sexually attracted to power (as Gon and Killua are powerful and promising kids) in a world where everyone is searching for power seemed interesting. But I just wanted to remind you that more philosophical shows like Psycho-Pass, Code Geass or even Attack on titan have many characters clearly representating existing ideologies. If you're still not convinced that "drawings" in anime can be a reference to existing philosophies, Psycho-Pass's main antagonist is the extremized personnification of Nietzsche's Superhuman, and the main character can be easily compared to Kant's idea of morale.

I know I might be using unusual references in a discussion about fucking meme Hisoka, but I just wanted to show you that removing the possibility to consider seriously one medium just because it's not live-action movies or books removes you the possibility to find better stories than in a lot of other mediums.
Jan 20, 2022 7:34 AM
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It's not exactly pedophilia but rather that hisoka is turned on by fighting strong opponents (probably a better term for it) and is attracted to gon / killua because of their potential to become strong. It doesn't really have to do with wither or not they're kids. But yeah it's still pretty fk'd up
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BloodyTaer said:
a character being a 'pedo' isn't pushing any ideology, theyre just fucking drawings, you can't push ideology through them

Except if someone is a fucking idiot who translates these drawings into the real world and compare them to the real world, yes ideologies can be pushed to these people through drawings, but whos fault is that? Their own and not the author


Saying that "drawings" can't push an ideology is pretty much like saying that words or letters in a book can't represent an existing ideology. I'm totally not saying that the author is promoting pedophilia by creating a pedophile villain. He probably did it for fun or because a person sexually attracted to power (as Gon and Killua are powerful and promising kids) in a world where everyone is searching for power seemed interesting. But I just wanted to remind you that more philosophical shows like Psycho-Pass, Code Geass or even Attack on titan have many characters clearly representating existing ideologies. If you're still not convinced that "drawings" in anime can be a reference to existing philosophies, Psycho-Pass's main antagonist is the extremized personnification of Nietzsche's Superhuman, and the main character can be easily compared to Kant's idea of morale.

I know I might be using unusual references in a discussion about fucking meme Hisoka, but I just wanted to show you that removing the possibility to consider seriously one medium just because it's not live-action movies or books removes you the possibility to find better stories than in a lot of other mediums.
you just changed what were talking about from 'pushing ideology' to 'representing ideology' no fucking shit ideologies can be represented through drawings, thats not something revolutionary to anyone, we are talking about pushing ideology, can a drawing make you change your ideology or accept one? Thats what we are talking about so don't poke your nose when youre lost on what we are discussing
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I think it doesn't matter since it isn't real. Besides, he's pretty much a villain. Liking a character doesn't necessarily mean you like what they're doing.
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BloodyTaer said:
BoumbaBlack said:


Saying that "drawings" can't push an ideology is pretty much like saying that words or letters in a book can't represent an existing ideology. I'm totally not saying that the author is promoting pedophilia by creating a pedophile villain. He probably did it for fun or because a person sexually attracted to power (as Gon and Killua are powerful and promising kids) in a world where everyone is searching for power seemed interesting. But I just wanted to remind you that more philosophical shows like Psycho-Pass, Code Geass or even Attack on titan have many characters clearly representating existing ideologies. If you're still not convinced that "drawings" in anime can be a reference to existing philosophies, Psycho-Pass's main antagonist is the extremized personnification of Nietzsche's Superhuman, and the main character can be easily compared to Kant's idea of morale.

I know I might be using unusual references in a discussion about fucking meme Hisoka, but I just wanted to show you that removing the possibility to consider seriously one medium just because it's not live-action movies or books removes you the possibility to find better stories than in a lot of other mediums.
you just changed what were talking about from 'pushing ideology' to 'representing ideology' no fucking shit ideologies can be represented through drawings, thats not something revolutionary to anyone, we are talking about pushing ideology, can a drawing make you change your ideology or accept one? Thats what we are talking about so don't poke your nose when youre lost on what we are discussing


Bro sorry man... I didn't wanna insult you whatsoever. I made the mistake of not reading all the discussion before answering.

If you're talking about how Hisoka's pedophilia could influence people in real life, I agree with you that it won't make viewers of the show think of it as good if they aren't already thinking it. Well... let's be honest... after all the times the characters were calling him a freak or a horrible murderer, I don't think much people would continue to think of him as an example.

But, for the point of changing your ideology or accepting one because of "drawings", I think that anime has as much power as any other medium, be it novels, movies or even video games, to have an impact on its viewers. The thing is, the further the ideology it is promoting is from the viewer's own ideology, the less the propaganda is effective. Same thing for Hisoka's pedophilia. Even if the author did intend to promote it, which is most probably not the case, it would only be accepted by people that are already very close to accept pedophilia in itself. This means that, of course, Hisoka's pedophilia did not influence much people in their real life.
Jan 20, 2022 11:50 AM

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Because people think he's hot. You people really need to get a better taste in men, I'm sorry.
Jan 20, 2022 12:04 PM

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I don't support ****philia but Hisoka never bothered me to a large extent. His intent with following Gon and the others was to find someone powerful which was what always turned him on as weird as it sounds. It never felt like Hisoka was preying on them like that
Jan 20, 2022 12:17 PM

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He is not even a pedophile. When did he ever even sexually touch Gon? Never.

Jan 20, 2022 12:24 PM

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Its not sexual in nature so it can't really be called pedophilia. Men, sometimes, experience an erection for no particular reason without any sexual arousal. Therefore, it isn't really pedophilia.

pedophilia - sexual feelings directed towards children

That said, it's still might look creepy to see Hisoka getting an erection towards children. Luckily, the show doesn't promote it, so it's all fine with me.





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If you read about him he's not a paedophile. He's turned on by 'power', not because Gon is a child. It's the core motivation for Hisoka in the series - he's a crazy clown thrillseeker who does everything for a higher thrill. People like him because he's crazy. I admit he's a weird character but it's a far cry from supporting an actual murderer - this is just a fictional character.
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lol we dont justify it we just choose to ignore it 😭


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He's the villian...
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331913 said:
Lol are you really accusing me of being a pedophile because I'm explaining that antagonists aren't good people but you can still like them? Get a grip, my dude. You need to realize that these aren't real people. These are fictional characters who are flawed and written that way on purpose. I'm not even a huge fan of Hisoka, but this is common sense.

Maybe Lelouch wasn't the best example so I'll use someone else. The Joker is clearly evil and he's a murderer. Are people not allowed to like the Joker? Are you going to accuse Joker fans of secretly being murderers?

Let's take it a step further. Are people who play violent games like GTA or Call of Duty addicted to violence in real life? Are they going to shoot up schools? Are they not allowed to like these games and acknowledge that they're not real? Lol


Most people dont like the joker in the same way people like Hisoka. While people enjoy the joker (and mostly the actor who portrayed him), people idolize Hisoka. They try to brush off his bad aspect of literally wanting kids.
This is stupid. Just like most people don't idolize the Joker, most people don't idolize Hisoka either. Stop generalizing an entire characters' fanbase. I assure you that a majority of Hisoka fans are normal people who just so happen to enjoy this fictional character while acknowledging that he's morally deplorable. Same applies to the Joker. There might be a few crazies out there who actually idolize Hisoka and think he does no wrong, but guess what? The same applies to every single fictional character out there who has a big fanbase. That's unavoidable.

As for the pedophilia claim, it's literally semantics. Some people don't think Hisoka is a pedophile because he's addicted to fighting people who are strong and they reason that it's because of this that he's attracted to Gon and Killua. Others think that he's a pedophile and he's addicted to fighting strong people at the same time. Either way, it doesn't matter because Hisoka is obviously a morally reprehensible character regardless of whether he's a pedophile or not. His very first appearance in the anime is him cutting off someone's arm because that person accidentally bumped into him. He's obviously not meant to be a good person. He himself acknowledges this lol. But despite that, he can be a likable and charismatic character because of the way he's written into the story. Because again, he's fictional and not real.

So next time, I advise you to stop getting so invested in fictional characters to the point where you try to cancel them on MAL. Maybe lead these campaigns against actual real pedophiles who are harmful to actual real children.
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He's meant to be a villain I guess, his perversion towards children isn't represented as something good, but is one of the things that makes him an antagonist.
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NickCipolla said:


Most people dont like the joker in the same way people like Hisoka. While people enjoy the joker (and mostly the actor who portrayed him), people idolize Hisoka. They try to brush off his bad aspect of literally wanting kids.
This is stupid. Just like most people don't idolize the Joker, most people don't idolize Hisoka either. Stop generalizing an entire characters' fanbase. I assure you that a majority of Hisoka fans are normal people who just so happen to enjoy this fictional character while acknowledging that he's morally deplorable. Same applies to the Joker. There might be a few crazies out there who actually idolize Hisoka and think he does no wrong, but guess what? The same applies to every single fictional character out there who has a big fanbase. That's unavoidable.

As for the pedophilia claim, it's literally semantics. Some people don't think Hisoka is a pedophile because he's addicted to fighting people who are strong and they reason that it's because of this that he's attracted to Gon and Killua. Others think that he's a pedophile and he's addicted to fighting strong people at the same time. Either way, it doesn't matter because Hisoka is obviously a morally reprehensible character regardless of whether he's a pedophile or not. His very first appearance in the anime is him cutting off someone's arm because that person accidentally bumped into him. He's obviously not meant to be a good person. He himself acknowledges this lol. But despite that, he can be a likable and charismatic character because of the way he's written into the story. Because again, he's fictional and not real.

So next time, I advise you to stop getting so invested in fictional characters to the point where you try to cancel them on MAL. Maybe lead these campaigns against actual real pedophiles who are harmful to actual real children.


have u not read the first 50 posts on ghis thread lol.
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Are we seriously using the 'P' word in 2022? How anti-woke. Everybody knows they prefer to be called Age Liberated Lovers.

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There will always be fangirls (or fanboys, but more so fangirls) for anything lol. Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy have a ton of fangirls for some reason XD (it probably isn't a laughing matter but I still find it funny nonetheless).

I don't think anyone really tries to justify his pedophilia, they like him because he's entertaining and the whole pedo aspect is pretty funny lol. It would also be pretty funny if he was racist. Like imagine Buzz Lightyear being racist LOL

Besides, like someone else in this thread said, his perversion towards children isn't represented as something good.
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There will always be fangirls (or fanboys, but more so fangirls) for anything lol. Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy have a ton of fangirls for some reason XD (it probably isn't a laughing matter but I still find it funny nonetheless).

I don't think anyone really tries to justify his pedophilia, they like him because he's entertaining and the whole pedo aspect is pretty funny lol. It would also be pretty funny if he was racist. Like imagine Buzz Lightyear being racist LOL

Besides, like someone else in this thread said, his perversion towards children isn't represented as something good.


ITS SO FUNNY WHEN A CHARACTER WANTS TO R*PE AN 11 YEAR OLD XDDD

holy cow another person who not only justifies it, but calls it funny. insanity
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ITS SO FUNNY WHEN A CHARACTER WANTS TO R*PE AN 11 YEAR OLD XDDD

holy cow another person who not only justifies it, but calls it funny. insanity


I'm not justifying it lol. I just think it's funny. The way Hisoka's pedophilia is portrayed is kinda ridiculous, hence why I find it humorous.
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ITS SO FUNNY WHEN A CHARACTER WANTS TO R*PE AN 11 YEAR OLD XDDD

holy cow another person who not only justifies it, but calls it funny. insanity


I'm not justifying it lol. I just think it's funny. The way Hisoka's pedophilia is portrayed is kinda ridiculous, hence why I find it humorous.


yep, so funny. xddddd
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lol we dont justify it we just choose to ignore it 😭


lol nice one

cannot wait for OPs thread when Attack on Titan anime ends
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