-Herbal said: Shinah said: used to go to the gym years ago, got busy with college and work, and stopped. idk if running after the bus is considered working out but that's all i do these days Nice man, you should try working out more, it's good for your health. Or you can just play some sports as a hobby or something. Just a suggestion though. I'm not trying to be forceful or annoying. thanks :D i'm not really motivated to get myself into a hobby like that but getting some abs doesn't sound bad tho haha |
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Deathko said: This is pretty dumb. I didn't insult him, I just stated a fact. Exercising gets you fitter if you put some perseverance into it. He's the one who pulled the gun instantly. Besides, one look at his posting history will make you see why you shouldn't defend him lol. Dude spent most of his less than 100 posts spitting straight hate. Want a random passage? "Men are born. They don't have to do jackshit to become men. Women on the other hand are useless baggage, parasites. They have to prove their worth to be acknowledged and taken seriously because everyone knows exactly that they are frauds. But since women don't even try, they just stay in that image forever." Anyway, not gonna show my body here silly you (^% You are literally a forum troll, who spends all his time on this forum trying to incite shit. You are a pathetic worm, so don't bother trying to put any focus on me. You have no justification to talk about anyone other than yourself with your toxic attitude. |
JeffreyBezz said: Deathko said: This is pretty dumb. I didn't insult him, I just stated a fact. Exercising gets you fitter if you put some perseverance into it. He's the one who pulled the gun instantly. Besides, one look at his posting history will make you see why you shouldn't defend him lol. Dude spent most of his less than 100 posts spitting straight hate. Want a random passage? "Men are born. They don't have to do jackshit to become men. Women on the other hand are useless baggage, parasites. They have to prove their worth to be acknowledged and taken seriously because everyone knows exactly that they are frauds. But since women don't even try, they just stay in that image forever." Anyway, not gonna show my body here silly you (^% You are literally a forum troll, who spends all his time on this forum trying to incite shit. You are a pathetic worm, so don't bother trying to put any focus on me. You have no justification to talk about anyone other than yourself with your toxic attitude. Why do you sound like someone so degenerate they got banned even from here, and came back full of spite? |
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Deathko said: Why do you sound like someone so degenerate they got banned even from here, and came back full of spite? You are on an anime forum. Maybe you should hang out on less degenerate places if you don't like those? But a troll is at home everywhere, is it not so? Nearing 12k posts, amazing. Truly no semblence of degeneracy there, straight in one's face. If you weren't so pathetic, I'd even grace you enough to take anything you say seriously. But a joke is not made to be taken seriously. |
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JeffreyBezz said: I used to, but it's a waste of time. If your body is light-weight, it's just light-weight. There is no way for you to gain a meaningful addition of muscle no matter the calories you consume and the sessions you use. You are better off just training your legs to be able to run faster than others. There is some truth in that I think. You can definitely put on good muscle on any frame, although it does vary based on genetics, but you're objectively going to end up looking better if you train and have a decent diet. But there's the rub, you can't train your bones, for example training delts might make your shoulders wider to some extent, but they'll still be smaller than the shoulders of someone who trains off and on but has naturally broad shoulders. I still don't think that's an excuse not to try some form of physical exercise, you can still get much bigger than you are as someone who doesn't really exercise, but at the end of the day it's best to pick a fun way to exercise, which comes down to preference. Also +1 on the leg training part. Shishio-kun said: btw I hate to be that guy, but if anyone is reading this and interested in health and fitness: never ever EVER take advice from other ppl on MAL when it comes to working out or nutrition: they constantly bullshit and make stuff up here, especially when it comes to health :/ you can tell once you know about this stuff but a beginner would be fooled lol. Go to sites like Kinobody and such for good plans, maybe get on a Keto diet and start eating more protein and less sugar and carbs (preferably none), and start using some adjustable dumbbells to work your way up to chin ups and weighted chin ups. I completely agree with the notion that you should take everything fitness related on the internet with a grain of salt. But then you direct them to a fitness charlatan and tell them to cut out carbs. |
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Erg_Orgy said: I still don't think that's an excuse not to try some form of physical exercise, you can still get much bigger than you are as someone who doesn't really exercise, but at the end of the day it's best to pick a fun way to exercise, which comes down to preference. That's a weird choice of words there. Very common among the male culture of self-harm induction feedback-loops. You call it an "excuse", meaning your expectation is already that working out is vital and absolutely necessary. Something almost mandatory that people can not do without. Movement is important, movement could be reduced down to be life itself. But working out to increase one's muscle mass is not normal. It's a modern trend that is more about fashion than anything and is detrimental to health. It's all about improving one's looks at the expense of one's health. I don't want to get bigger. And I think the naive idea that by doing any physical exercise, it automatically is beneficial and better than no physical exercises ends badly for some people. Especially also when they have expectations in regards to their psyche, their happiness and their life to change from it. If an unhappy person starts to do exercise and actually does make gains from it, all you end up with is a transition from an unhappy stick or fat guy to an unhappy ripped guy. Just saying. The things of life that ought to be tackled with high priority are not your body or anything internal. They are all external things. |
Deathko said: -Herbal said: Not cool, if you're so great why don't you post a photo of your physique here? Stop bullying other people because they don't wanna do something that you enjoy doing. We're all people and we have different outlooks and opinions, please learn to respect that. Also sorry @JeffreyBezz, I didn't actually read what you and @Deathko were talking about. Don't worry about it man, you do you. This is pretty dumb. I didn't insult him, I just stated a fact. Exercising gets you fitter if you put some perseverance into it. He's the one who pulled the gun instantly. Besides, one look at his posting history will make you see why you shouldn't defend him lol. Dude spent most of his less than 100 posts spitting straight hate. Want a random passage? "Men are born. They don't have to do jackshit to become men. Women on the other hand are useless baggage, parasites. They have to prove their worth to be acknowledged and taken seriously because everyone knows exactly that they are frauds. But since women don't even try, they just stay in that image forever." Anyway, not gonna show my body here silly you (^% Oh come on. I showed my navel now you show yours. ππ Dear readers @deathko has jumped on me multiple times since last year anytime I show my body pics. He goes on about me showing my navel. Not sure if it’s jealousy or if he has a crush on me. Theme song |
JeffreyBezz said: Erg_Orgy said: I still don't think that's an excuse not to try some form of physical exercise, you can still get much bigger than you are as someone who doesn't really exercise, but at the end of the day it's best to pick a fun way to exercise, which comes down to preference. That's a weird choice of words there. Very common among the male culture of self-harm induction feedback-loops. You call it an "excuse", meaning your expectation is already that working out is vital and absolutely necessary. Something almost mandatory that people can not do without. Movement is important, movement could be reduced down to be life itself. But working out to increase one's muscle mass is not normal. It's a modern trend that is more about fashion than anything and is detrimental to health. It's all about improving one's looks at the expense of one's health. I don't want to get bigger. And I think the naive idea that by doing any physical exercise, it automatically is beneficial and better than no physical exercises ends badly for some people. Especially also when they have expectations in regards to their psyche, their happiness and their life to change from it. If an unhappy person starts to do exercise and actually does make gains from it, all you end up with is a transition from an unhappy stick or fat guy to an unhappy ripped guy. Just saying. The things of life that ought to be tackled with high priority are not your body or anything internal. They are all external things. You're seeing things that aren't there. If you don't want to exercise because it's not enjoyable for you in any way shape or form and you say that, more power to you. If you say that you don't exercise because it's pointless and has no benefits and it's somehow bad for your health, that's an excuse. Nobody is expecting you to work out, yet you try to justify not exercising by saying it's bad for your health and that there's no point because you can't put on any notable amounts of muscle. Mind you, putting on muscle isn't necessarily the be all end all of physical exercise. You won't put on much muscle mass by running, but your heart is sure as shit going to thank you for it if you pair it with a passable diet. Exercising in a gym is not a requirement for health since, like you said, it's a relatively modern thing in the grand scheme of things, but it can be a good supplementary hobby and it can help your mental health if you're the type to enjoy the feedback sports in general give. What you seem to associate exercise with is 120 kilo dudebros pumping iron 4 hours a day 5 days a week. Yes there are people like that, but that's an incredibly one-dimensional way of looking at fitness. You don't have to get bigger, you don't even have to get stronger. My point was what you seemed to completely glance over, which is having fun. If you're not having fun no matter what you're doing in terms of exercise, sure, it may not be for you. Still, it's by no means a pointless thing. When people have unrealistic expectations, that's not the fault of exercise itself, it's the fault of the system that's pushing workout programs and supplements as the magical cure to every problem they might have, while the dude promoting that shite is more often than not on PEDs. That is an issue, yes, but it doesn't take away any credence from the tried and tested benefits of exercise. Basically, just because some people are misled, desperate or straight up idiots doesn't mean fitness is to blame. |
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Erg_Orgy said: You're seeing things that aren't there. If you don't want to exercise because it's not enjoyable for you in any way shape or form and you say that, more power to you. If you say that you don't exercise because it's pointless and has no benefits and it's somehow bad for your health, that's an excuse. Nobody is expecting you to work out, yet you try to justify not exercising by saying it's bad for your health and that there's no point because you can't put on any notable amounts of muscle. Mind you, putting on muscle isn't necessarily the be all end all of physical exercise. You won't put on much muscle mass by running, but your heart is sure as shit going to thank you for it if you pair it with a passable diet. Exercising in a gym is not a requirement for health since, like you said, it's a relatively modern thing in the grand scheme of things, but it can be a good supplementary hobby and it can help your mental health if you're the type to enjoy the feedback sports in general give. What you seem to associate exercise with is 120 kilo dudebros pumping iron 4 hours a day 5 days a week. Yes there are people like that, but that's an incredibly one-dimensional way of looking at fitness. You don't have to get bigger, you don't even have to get stronger. My point was what you seemed to completely glance over, which is having fun. If you're not having fun no matter what you're doing in terms of exercise, sure, it may not be for you. Still, it's by no means a pointless thing. When people have unrealistic expectations, that's not the fault of exercise itself, it's the fault of the system that's pushing workout programs and supplements as the magical cure to every problem they might have, while the dude promoting that shite is more often than not on PEDs. That is an issue, yes, but it doesn't take away any credence from the tried and tested benefits of exercise. Basically, just because some people are misled, desperate or straight up idiots doesn't mean fitness is to blame. No, the things are quite plainly in my sight. You are saying them yourself right now. You keep calling it an excuse that someone has no desire to work out. Which is a weird framing you are doing there. I don't need an excuse to not do something. If someone wants to do something, they do it. If they don't want to, they don't. They don't need an excuse to not do something. An excuse is something that is only necessary for something that you are expected to do. Is working out something that you are expected to do? That seems to be how you view it. I don't see it that way. No one expects me to work out. I don't expect anyone else to work out either. Therefore no one needs to excuse themselves from said activity. Everyone has their reasons for why they do certain things. You don't need a particular reason for why you don't do something specific. For example, I could be saying that I don't pick up rocks from the moon. There is no excuse necessary for not picking up rocks from the moon, it's just some random activity someone might be doing if they have access to that kind of thing. While to someone else just the thought alone of doing that has never even crossed their mind. I do know of various exercises and sports that are detrimental to one's health. For example in martial arts you can easily make mistakes and hurt your wrists or other parts of your body. Or jogging, most people who jog keep jogging even after they are exhausted and they put strain on their ankles, which is partly also from the way they keep putting their weight on their ankles from the way they walk/jog. A workout or another physical exercise isn't necessarily something inherently bad or with ill effects on the body, but having entire generations of people fawn over these hobbies like hitting the gym, jogging or doing yoga is not an indicator of a healthy society. It's an indicator of a society of people who feel so powerless and unable to change their environment that they must instead focus all their attention on the one thing that they can change: Themselves. |
JeffreyBezz said: Erg_Orgy said: You're seeing things that aren't there. If you don't want to exercise because it's not enjoyable for you in any way shape or form and you say that, more power to you. If you say that you don't exercise because it's pointless and has no benefits and it's somehow bad for your health, that's an excuse. Nobody is expecting you to work out, yet you try to justify not exercising by saying it's bad for your health and that there's no point because you can't put on any notable amounts of muscle. Mind you, putting on muscle isn't necessarily the be all end all of physical exercise. You won't put on much muscle mass by running, but your heart is sure as shit going to thank you for it if you pair it with a passable diet. Exercising in a gym is not a requirement for health since, like you said, it's a relatively modern thing in the grand scheme of things, but it can be a good supplementary hobby and it can help your mental health if you're the type to enjoy the feedback sports in general give. What you seem to associate exercise with is 120 kilo dudebros pumping iron 4 hours a day 5 days a week. Yes there are people like that, but that's an incredibly one-dimensional way of looking at fitness. You don't have to get bigger, you don't even have to get stronger. My point was what you seemed to completely glance over, which is having fun. If you're not having fun no matter what you're doing in terms of exercise, sure, it may not be for you. Still, it's by no means a pointless thing. When people have unrealistic expectations, that's not the fault of exercise itself, it's the fault of the system that's pushing workout programs and supplements as the magical cure to every problem they might have, while the dude promoting that shite is more often than not on PEDs. That is an issue, yes, but it doesn't take away any credence from the tried and tested benefits of exercise. Basically, just because some people are misled, desperate or straight up idiots doesn't mean fitness is to blame. No, the things are quite plainly in my sight. You are saying them yourself right now. You keep calling it an excuse that someone has no desire to work out. Which is a weird framing you are doing there. I don't need an excuse to not do something. If someone wants to do something, they do it. If they don't want to, they don't. They don't need an excuse to not do something. An excuse is something that is only necessary for something that you are expected to do. Is working out something that you are expected to do? That seems to be how you view it. I don't see it that way. No one expects me to work out. I don't expect anyone else to work out either. Therefore no one needs to excuse themselves from said activity. Everyone has their reasons for why they do certain things. You don't need a particular reason for why you don't do something specific. For example, I could be saying that I don't pick up rocks from the moon. There is no excuse necessary for not picking up rocks from the moon, it's just some random activity someone might be doing if they have access to that kind of thing. While to someone else just the thought alone of doing that has never even crossed their mind. I do know of various exercises and sports that are detrimental to one's health. For example in martial arts you can easily make mistakes and hurt your wrists or other parts of your body. Or jogging, most people who jog keep jogging even after they are exhausted and they put strain on their ankles, which is partly also from the way they keep putting their weight on their ankles from the way they walk/jog. A workout or another physical exercise isn't necessarily something inherently bad or with ill effects on the body, but having entire generations of people fawn over these hobbies like hitting the gym, jogging or doing yoga is not an indicator of a healthy society. It's an indicator of a society of people who feel so powerless and unable to change their environment that they must instead focus all their attention on the one thing that they can change: Themselves. Your logic is excellent. However you must be careful when you respond to people on MAL because insults get you banned and I got one would like to see you around a lot more. I’m speaking in general not about the post I am quoting. As for this post I’m quoting - @erg_orgy is one of the good ones on this forum. There is no animosity in any of his posts. Your logic on how he framed and worded an excuse for not exercise is valid and I’m sure he’ll take note of that but as he has already said he meant nothing of it. His post was also sensible minus the slight unintentional misunderstanding. My take = exercise is good but not necessary so we are all in agreement here. It is our hyper famous society that it pushing some to feel as though they need to exercise just to stay in the game because people are so shallow. But there are many reasons to exercise and the best one is to do it for oneself because he wants to. It is not an activity that is mandatory or required and is as optional as collecting rocks from the moon if one is able to do so (great analogy). π |
JeffreyBezz said: I used to, but it's a waste of time. If your body is light-weight, it's just light-weight. There is no way for you to gain a meaningful addition of muscle no matter the calories you consume and the sessions you use. You are better off just training your legs to be able to run faster than others. What if I told you that what you said is bullshit and that even guys with skinniest natural builds CAN gain 15kilos of muscle+ some fat in the first 1.5 year of working out? |
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JeffreyBezz said: Erg_Orgy said: You're seeing things that aren't there. If you don't want to exercise because it's not enjoyable for you in any way shape or form and you say that, more power to you. If you say that you don't exercise because it's pointless and has no benefits and it's somehow bad for your health, that's an excuse. Nobody is expecting you to work out, yet you try to justify not exercising by saying it's bad for your health and that there's no point because you can't put on any notable amounts of muscle. Mind you, putting on muscle isn't necessarily the be all end all of physical exercise. You won't put on much muscle mass by running, but your heart is sure as shit going to thank you for it if you pair it with a passable diet. Exercising in a gym is not a requirement for health since, like you said, it's a relatively modern thing in the grand scheme of things, but it can be a good supplementary hobby and it can help your mental health if you're the type to enjoy the feedback sports in general give. What you seem to associate exercise with is 120 kilo dudebros pumping iron 4 hours a day 5 days a week. Yes there are people like that, but that's an incredibly one-dimensional way of looking at fitness. You don't have to get bigger, you don't even have to get stronger. My point was what you seemed to completely glance over, which is having fun. If you're not having fun no matter what you're doing in terms of exercise, sure, it may not be for you. Still, it's by no means a pointless thing. When people have unrealistic expectations, that's not the fault of exercise itself, it's the fault of the system that's pushing workout programs and supplements as the magical cure to every problem they might have, while the dude promoting that shite is more often than not on PEDs. That is an issue, yes, but it doesn't take away any credence from the tried and tested benefits of exercise. Basically, just because some people are misled, desperate or straight up idiots doesn't mean fitness is to blame. No, the things are quite plainly in my sight. You are saying them yourself right now. You keep calling it an excuse that someone has no desire to work out. Which is a weird framing you are doing there. I don't need an excuse to not do something. If someone wants to do something, they do it. If they don't want to, they don't. They don't need an excuse to not do something. An excuse is something that is only necessary for something that you are expected to do. Is working out something that you are expected to do? That seems to be how you view it. I don't see it that way. No one expects me to work out. I don't expect anyone else to work out either. Therefore no one needs to excuse themselves from said activity. Everyone has their reasons for why they do certain things. You don't need a particular reason for why you don't do something specific. For example, I could be saying that I don't pick up rocks from the moon. There is no excuse necessary for not picking up rocks from the moon, it's just some random activity someone might be doing if they have access to that kind of thing. While to someone else just the thought alone of doing that has never even crossed their mind. I do know of various exercises and sports that are detrimental to one's health. For example in martial arts you can easily make mistakes and hurt your wrists or other parts of your body. Or jogging, most people who jog keep jogging even after they are exhausted and they put strain on their ankles, which is partly also from the way they keep putting their weight on their ankles from the way they walk/jog. A workout or another physical exercise isn't necessarily something inherently bad or with ill effects on the body, but having entire generations of people fawn over these hobbies like hitting the gym, jogging or doing yoga is not an indicator of a healthy society. It's an indicator of a society of people who feel so powerless and unable to change their environment that they must instead focus all their attention on the one thing that they can change: Themselves. First off, at no point did I say that not having the desire to work out is an excuse. Like I said, it doesn't matter who wants to do what, I don't see anyone as any less of a human being for not working out or doing any kind of exercise. You're putting words in my mouth. Also, if you want to argue over semantics, an excuse isn't just something you come up with when you've failed someone's expectations, it's also a false reason one gives for doing (or not doing) something. Saying you don't work out because, and I quote, "there is no way for you to gain a meaningful addition of muscle no matter the calories you consume and the sessions you use", is a false reason, even if you might believe it. If it were true, everyone bar PED abusers would look the same throughout their entire time spent at the gym even if they're training for hypertrophy. Again, at no point did I say you are obligated or should feel pressured to exercise and that you're any worse than the next guy for not doing so. All I'm saying is to be honest about it and say you don't like working out or you had unreasonable expectations that put you off etc. Calling something a waste of time because you don't enjoy it and choose not to partake in it is not doing it justice. And I'm not talking about you specifically, I'm talking in general. Your choice not to exercise gets no judgement from me. Exercise, when done under safe conditions and with attention to your movements can be a good thing, that is all. There are many things that are beneficial to us that we choose not to do, and who cares? Same thing with exercise. There are many things I don't like to do, but I acknowledge that some people do like those things and that it helps them mentally or physically. Injuries can happen at any time. Hands up those who have never hurt their ankle while taking an unfortunate step on a flight of stairs. I understand what you're trying to say, yes, there are activities that come with an increased risk of injury especially given how basically anyone can become a coach in anything these days, but don't you think that, say, martial arts would be extremely unpopular if the pros didn't outweigh the cons for those who practice them? Those who choose to do these activites are ideally aware of the risks and the things they have to watch out for. And thankfully, at least in our younger years, we can bounce back from minor injuries, which are almost always more common than life-altering ones. The point about the fawning over is a good one, although there's so much nuance to it that we could spend days discussing just that one part. But yep, many people have an unhealthy obsession with exercise, and I think that ties into the whole social media thing these days, which makes it much-much worse. Like I said, nobody should feel obligated or forced to do any kind of sport/exercise. But when the standards for people are set so high thanks to social media personalities, people who feel much "closer" to us than, say, characters in movies, people are gonna feel pressured, which should never be your reason to do anything, much less to exercise. 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Black-Pill said: What if I told you that what you said is bullshit and that even guys with skinniest natural builds CAN gain 15kilos of muscle+ some fat in the first 1.5 year of working out? I would first say that it doesn't concern me because I am no longer trying to gain mass. I used to want to gain mass in earlier years. Next I would say that even if a lightweight person did manage to amass muscle and some fat, they'd still not look appealing to a woman. It'd just still look skinny and try-hard. And not like a natural build of proportions like when a non-skinny person gains muscle. And lastly I'd ask what the basic principle behind that claim is. Not the methodology, but the mechanism or the lever that you think is what decides if someone skinny could increase their mass significantly. Examples: The amount of calories being consumed? The way in which meals are consumed and what intake (fat, carbs, proteins)? Perhaps specific exercises or just the discipline and rigorous dedication that is required? Erg_Orgy said: but don't you think that, say, martial arts would be extremely unpopular if the pros didn't outweigh the cons for those who practice them? Those who choose to do these activites are ideally aware of the risks and the things they have to watch out for. And thankfully, at least in our younger years, we can bounce back from minor injuries, which are almost always more common than life-altering ones. The point about the fawning over is a good one, although there's so much nuance to it that we could spend days discussing just that one part. But yep, many people have an unhealthy obsession with exercise, and I think that ties into the whole social media thing these days, which makes it much-much worse. Like I said, nobody should feel obligated or forced to do any kind of sport/exercise. But when the standards for people are set so high thanks to social media personalities, people who feel much "closer" to us than, say, characters in movies, people are gonna feel pressured, which should never be your reason to do anything, much less to exercise. You should only exercise if you find the idea of it fun and you're enjoying yourself. The whole "no pain no gain" culture saying "workouts should be bad and you must shit blood at the end of your workout" are obviously bad, I would never argue against that. I wouldn't draw that conclusion just from certain martial arts being popular. There also exist plenty of martial arts that are useless in real combat, yet they are practiced and popular. And outside of MA and sports and exercise, it is in general a common phenomenon that things that are unhealthy are very popular and widely practiced. Which might seem unintuitive, but makes a lot of sense when you consider how the interests of the few who propagate trends influence the behavior of the many. An Ice Bucket Challenge, just as example, isn't healthy or useful in any way or form either. Yet it trended at some point in time. I used to respect people who worked out because it's something you can dedicate yourself to on a more or less strict schedule. Something I dedicated myself to as well, but then I had to find out that it wasn't as much about dedication and a sound plan with the right food, as much as mere genetics that decide over how or if any gains take place at all. My respect for people who have ripped bodies are very limited since that discovery. I don't particularly respect traits that are merely there since birth, be it a pretty face or a steeled body. Regardless of how much extra work was put into it to get there. But it's cool that life can indeed work out for some people. Similarly to how it works out for some who are born financially rich and others who are born sexually rich. Not much of a deal for me though, as workout was only a means to an end. For some people it's also a distraction. |
JeffreyBezz said: Next I would say that even if a lightweight person did manage to amass muscle and some fat, they'd still not look appealing to a woman. For someone who can't seem to get close to one, you sure know more about women than they do themselves. |
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Deathko said: JeffreyBezz said: Next I would say that even if a lightweight person did manage to amass muscle and some fat, they'd still not look appealing to a woman. For someone who can't seem to get close to one, you sure know more about women than they do themselves. Women only know themselves when it comes to talking about other women that they don’t like. When it comes to them they’ll lie and say that they’re not like those other women. Some may even genuinely believe this or may have convinced themselves of this. But really they are all the same. It’s only their circumstances that differentiate how each woman behaves and her experiences and interactions with her environment. When it comes to their emotions and acting on them they are the same. If you can put them all in the same situation they’ll all behave in the same way. Just need to line up all the variables and watch what happens. |
SemillaMinoria said: Deathko said: For someone who can't seem to get close to one, you sure know more about women than they do themselves. Women only know themselves when it comes to talking about other women that they don’t like. When it comes to them they’ll lie and say that they’re not like those other women. Some may even genuinely believe this or may have convinced themselves of this. But really they are all the same. It’s only their circumstances that differentiate how each woman behaves and her experiences and interactions with her environment. When it comes to their emotions and acting on them they are the same. If you can put them all in the same situation they’ll all behave in the same way. Just need to line up all the variables and watch what happens. Do you legit believe that other people with 2 eyes, arms, legs and a brain like you are soulless robots with no free will? That's kinda sad tbh. |
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JeffreyBezz said: Black-Pill said: What if I told you that what you said is bullshit and that even guys with skinniest natural builds CAN gain 15kilos of muscle+ some fat in the first 1.5 year of working out? I would first say that it doesn't concern me because I am no longer trying to gain mass. I used to want to gain mass in earlier years. Next I would say that even if a lightweight person did manage to amass muscle and some fat, they'd still not look appealing to a woman. It'd just still look skinny and try-hard. And not like a natural build of proportions like when a non-skinny person gains muscle. And lastly I'd ask what the basic principle behind that claim is. Not the methodology, but the mechanism or the lever that you think is what decides if someone skinny could increase their mass significantly. Examples: The amount of calories being consumed? The way in which meals are consumed and what intake (fat, carbs, proteins)? Perhaps specific exercises or just the discipline and rigorous dedication that is required? ANYONE can gain significant amount muscle mass it just takes time. I used to be in a similar mindset to you, I was doing hard workouts , doing hundreds of push ups , pullups , dips and ate 3k calories on daily but my weight barely moved from the measly 65kilo number that it was. Then I added heavy compound lifts ( after doing research on how to perform them with decent enough form ), bumped my calories to 4k daily and actually started counting macros ( more protein, some carbs , no saturated fats ) and voila year and half later I am 82kilos at 13-14% bodyfat. If you are interested I can send photos of before and after as a proof. |
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Deathko said: Do you legit believe that other people with 2 eyes, arms, legs and a brain like you are soulless robots with no free will? That's kinda sad tbh. Yes, it can be said to be sad that the vast majority of people (not just women) are little more than very simplistic animals. Not much unlike any other animal. It's sad in the sense that you'd expect people to be able to behave in a civilized manner and act respectfully towards one another to some extent. But that is out of the question. I don't find it sad, personally. It's just how animals (including humans) are. The expectation for a better world or even just a decent world is probably what is rather sad as it's a mere idealistic fantasy. Mentionworthy is that the sheep behavior is not even much of a matter of intelligence or knowledge or character, but a combination of various factors - none of which is decidingly dominant - which together form the different breeds of human that exist. |
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Black-Pill said: ANYONE can gain significant amount muscle mass it just takes time. I used to be in a similar mindset to you, I was doing hard workouts , doing hundreds of push ups , pullups , dips and ate 3k calories on daily but my weight barely moved from the measly 65kilo number that it was. Then I added heavy compound lifts ( after doing research on how to perform them with decent enough form ), bumped my calories to 4k daily and actually started counting macros ( more protein, some carbs , no saturated fats ) and voila year and half later I am 82kilos at 13-14% bodyfat. If you are interested I can send photos of before and after as a proof. Not necessary. I have heard of that kind of story before by some. It's not relevant to me, I was just curious what the applied idea(s) would be. Even if I still wanted to gain mass, the very last thing I have left in this life is time. Sounds decently enough though with some more micro-management. You can flex though if you really want to because we all know that's what you want to do. |
| I am thinking of buying a treadmill but I am poor atm. |
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DonAngelon said: Actually yes I do.I hit my gym 6 times per week and I can lift a lot of weights such as benching 220kg on bench press and repping the heaviest dumbels(60kg for 15 rep set) in incline dumbell.The gym is not only my favorite hobby but a way to live my life,once an gym enjoyer=always a gym enjoyer. YESSIR! I was expecting you to be on this thread x) Oh oh oh oh, do you by any chance have a before or after picture you can post here? FLEX ON THEM KIDS XD |
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| Yes. After watching My Hero Academia and One Punch Man, I wanted to give it a try and I did it for a straight year, but I've been falling off lately, but oh my gosh my bro @DonAngelon came in clutch and sent me this video. Definitely going to start working out consistently from now on. |
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Erebus_Akeldama said: DonAngelon said: Actually yes I do.I hit my gym 6 times per week and I can lift a lot of weights such as benching 220kg on bench press and repping the heaviest dumbels(60kg for 15 rep set) in incline dumbell.The gym is not only my favorite hobby but a way to live my life,once an gym enjoyer=always a gym enjoyer. YESSIR! I was expecting you to be on this thread x) Oh oh oh oh, do you by any chance have a before or after picture you can post here? FLEX ON THEM KIDS XD Only photos of me 2 years after the gym and now.π€£Them kids would be scared to see real life baki's physics |
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Erebus_Akeldama said: Yes. After watching My Hero Academia and One Punch Man, I wanted to give it a try and I did it for a straight year, but I've been falling off lately, but oh my gosh my bro @DonAngelon came in clutch and sent me this video. Definitely going to start working out consistently from now on. That's it my brother.Good choice πͺπͺ |
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DonAngelon said: Erebus_Akeldama said: YESSIR! I was expecting you to be on this thread x) Oh oh oh oh, do you by any chance have a before or after picture you can post here? FLEX ON THEM KIDS XD Only photos of me 2 years after the gym and now.π€£Them kids would be scared to see real life baki's physics They would cower in fear behind Goku, but not even him would be able to stop you xD |
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Deathko said: SemillaMinoria said: Women only know themselves when it comes to talking about other women that they don’t like. When it comes to them they’ll lie and say that they’re not like those other women. Some may even genuinely believe this or may have convinced themselves of this. But really they are all the same. It’s only their circumstances that differentiate how each woman behaves and her experiences and interactions with her environment. When it comes to their emotions and acting on them they are the same. If you can put them all in the same situation they’ll all behave in the same way. Just need to line up all the variables and watch what happens. Do you legit believe that other people with 2 eyes, arms, legs and a brain like you are soulless robots with no free will? That's kinda sad tbh. It’s more than a belief. It’s what I have seen. I have ventured outside, I have travelled to other places, I have worked many jobs, studied at many places, I have bedded many women, I have taken note of the experiences, accounts abs reports of others from various sources and from various walks of life, various races, cultures, age groups and social circles and I can tell you that these women even throughout history are all the same. The difference is circumstance. Yes it is quite sad. There are many sad things about this world. That’s why I don’t walk around the place happy as Larry. |
| I went for 3 years straight 2 years ago and went every week or so during the virus but restrictions are getting tighter so not clue how much longer that will last. If they lock down again will just cancel my membership and use that money to buy a setup to throw in my garage. |
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| I don't have enough motivation to do so. I'm also pretty weak, so it's difficult. |
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DonAngelon said: Shit bro, can I ask what program you run?Actually yes I do.I hit my gym 6 times per week and I can lift a lot of weights such as benching 220kg on bench press and repping the heaviest dumbels(60kg for 15 rep set) in incline dumbell.The gym is not only my favorite hobby but a way to live my life,once an gym enjoyer=always a gym enjoyer. |
| Monday.Legs -hypertrophy/more reps & less weights Tuesday.Upper body push(chest,front & side delts,triceps) - hypertrophy Wednesday.Upper body pull(Back,Biceps,Rear delts,traps,abs,forearms) - Hypertrophy Thursday.Legs - max strength & max weights Friday.Upper body push (chest,front& side delts,triceps) strength ,max weights & max reps only for the bench press and military press Saturday.Upper body pull(Back,Biceps,Rear deals,traps,abs,forearms) strength, max weights only at deadlifts and rows. This program is very hard and heavy but I'd like it a lot and improved a lot. Benefits of this program Is that you would gain strength and power more quickly than a programs such as bro split and upper& lower body but you would need a lot of time(sleep) and food to recover |
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DonAngelon said: Monday.Legs -hypertrophy/more reps & less weights Tuesday.Upper body push(chest,front & side delts,triceps) - hypertrophy Wednesday.Upper body pull(Back,Biceps,Rear delts,traps,abs,forearms) - Hypertrophy Thursday.Legs - max strength & max weights Friday.Upper body push (chest,front& side delts,triceps) strength ,max weights & max reps only for the bench press and military press Saturday.Upper body pull(Back,Biceps,Rear deals,traps,abs,forearms) strength, max weights only at deadlifts and rows. This program is very hard and heavy but I'd like it a lot and improved a lot. Benefits of this program Is that you would gain strength and power more quickly than a programs such as bro split and upper& lower body but you would need a lot of time(sleep) and food to recover You can bench 220 KG? Or was that typo for lbs lmao hard to believe that someone on mal would bench 220kilos , that's true elite numbers we talking about |
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| No it wasn't in lbs I cleary meant kgs.Yes I can bench them full rep.These are elite numbers for sure but I also forgot to mention that I am a bulgarian powerlifterπ |
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| Yeah, but I don't go to the "gym"...that's how they get you. I learned how to do a "squanch" at home. I do 200 every day and my lower back hurts all the time so I know it's working. |
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| Yes, I do 4 days weekly. I was skinny and had to adapt my life to it back then, nowadays I'm fully committed, and it's rewarding. JeffreyBezz said: This is not entirely true, people who claim to eat a lot just don't eat the necessary calories or have terrible eating habits/sleeping patterns or eating schedules.I used to, but it's a waste of time. If your body is light-weight, it's just light-weight. There is no way for you to gain a meaningful addition of muscle no matter the calories you consume and the sessions you use. You are better off just training your legs to be able to run faster than others. People with a fast metabolism just need to eat more than they burn, and there is no possible way that they can burn more calories than they eat by fixing eating habits and eating schedules. It's true though that your bone structure can dictate your maximum muscle gain without breaking yourself for just standing, everyone can achieve formidable results if they commit to it. |
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| I don't go to the gym, just do some some daily push ups sit ups and a run |
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| Yeah, I got jump-ropes and a portable pilates resistance bar in my dorm. |
| "Of what worth is a king who fails to protect the powerless?" —Saber, Fate/Zero |
| I use to work out every morning, but I ended up hurting my back to the point of being bed ridden for a couple of days. I plan on starting to work on my schedule for it in the beginning of December. I love being active (my favorite physical activity is roller skating, with swimming right behind it) and I find working out incredibly fun, so I can definitely see the enjoyment of it. I also want to add that for everyone who is thinking of exercising or just starting out, you definitely got this!! Yes, it's hard to form a good habit of it, but it's certainly most worth it! And for those of you who don't, that's a-okay, but please make sure to go on walks even if they're for 10 minutes. Gotta keep that body moving to stay healthy! |
| I've been going to the gym since I was 12, few years ago I just bought a bunch of equipment and put it in my basement. I actually got a new bench last month btw |
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| 100 situps and 100 pushups in morning. Physical job. 100 situps and 100 pushups before bed. Fap. Every single day over a decade now. |
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