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Nov 10, 2021 4:43 PM
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I really like the new highlighting of the stickies in clubs and forums now :D









But is there any way to control the highlight colors or add more? It seems the bottom one is automatically pink and the rest blue, that's good, because it makes the rules sticky separate from the rest- but I would like to use four colors overall if possible!






Nov 10, 2021 5:48 PM
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I find it unattractive even though it could be useful to make the stickies stand out. I would think a better design would be just a coloured bar on the left rather than colourize the entire row or just highlight the text that says "sticky". Also could use a thumbtack icon like a lock icon gets used for locked threads maybe but i dont know how that would look for sure.

I checked and no the colour isn't based on order. It seems threads with the word "rules" that are stickied become salmon coloured. Every other thread stickied is light blue. Like i said I assume the trigger for the colour is what words appear in thread title.
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Nov 10, 2021 7:30 PM
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traed said:
I find it unattractive even though it could be useful to make the stickies stand out. I would think a better design would be just a coloured bar on the left rather than colourize the entire row or just highlight the text that says "sticky". Also could use a thumbtack icon like a lock icon gets used for locked threads maybe but i dont know how that would look for sure.

I checked and no the colour isn't based on order. It seems threads with the word "rules" that are stickied become salmon coloured. Every other thread stickied is light blue. Like i said I assume the trigger for the colour is what words appear in thread title.


Ah nice, I was suspecting that the rules word triggered a color change but then I was like nah can't be lol.. maybe there's other triggers? D:

Yeah I was hoping to make important popular topics users can respond to in yellow, and then make a single starter topic for newbies green (would prefer to put that on top above all, but not possible) and then have locked index topics (full lists of resources in a certain category) be blue. And then of course rules in salmon.

I really wish there was a way to separate the topics in a club similar to the MAL forum page where everything is divided.

Nov 10, 2021 8:08 PM
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It seems to be "rules" as the trigger to make it salmon. I looked and some boards with only one sticky not rules have it blue not salmon.
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Nov 10, 2021 8:50 PM
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I would have to check if I can possibly do this using JS,if you would use it
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Nov 10, 2021 9:56 PM
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hacker09 said:
I would have to check if I can possibly do this using JS,if you would use it


Thanks but no, I want it to divide stickies by color for other users by default not with a script they have to install
Nov 11, 2021 8:42 AM
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traed said:
I find it unattractive even though it could be useful to make the stickies stand out. I would think a better design would be just a coloured bar on the left rather than colourize the entire row or just highlight the text that says "sticky". Also could use a thumbtack icon like a lock icon gets used for locked threads maybe but i dont know how that would look for sure.

The main problem is that many users are not even aware that sticky threads exist. Maybe it's because newer users are not used to the "old" forum design like we have on MAL, maybe it's because many people are not used to forums in general, maybe it's because a lot of people simply don't take the time to read anything before posting, and there are probably even more reasons. So my feeling is that having a colored bar or highlighting the sticky text won't do much because this is easy to overlook too. The idea of coloring the entire row is to make it really, really stand out, to the point where you can't overlook it. There will still be people who won't read the sticky threads for whatever reasons but if we can gain more awareness of the sticky threads with newer users / people who are not used to forums then this will help a lot.

The logic for the coloring is:
- Red color: if the thread title contains "rules", "guidelines", "before posting"
- Blue color: all other sticky threads

So the implementation is very simple and adding something like choosing specific colors for specific threads would require a lot more dev time. For the main forum we don't need this and I think the amount of clubs that would use this is very low so likely won't be added.
Nov 11, 2021 4:37 PM
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OK thanks, Luna! Well at least I can highlight the starter topic, very helpful! :D

Nov 12, 2021 7:54 PM
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Luna said:
traed said:
I find it unattractive even though it could be useful to make the stickies stand out. I would think a better design would be just a coloured bar on the left rather than colourize the entire row or just highlight the text that says "sticky". Also could use a thumbtack icon like a lock icon gets used for locked threads maybe but i dont know how that would look for sure.

The main problem is that many users are not even aware that sticky threads exist. Maybe it's because newer users are not used to the "old" forum design like we have on MAL, maybe it's because many people are not used to forums in general, maybe it's because a lot of people simply don't take the time to read anything before posting, and there are probably even more reasons. So my feeling is that having a colored bar or highlighting the sticky text won't do much because this is easy to overlook too. The idea of coloring the entire row is to make it really, really stand out, to the point where you can't overlook it. There will still be people who won't read the sticky threads for whatever reasons but if we can gain more awareness of the sticky threads with newer users / people who are not used to forums then this will help a lot.

The logic for the coloring is:
- Red color: if the thread title contains "rules", "guidelines", "before posting"
- Blue color: all other sticky threads

So the implementation is very simple and adding something like choosing specific colors for specific threads would require a lot more dev time. For the main forum we don't need this and I think the amount of clubs that would use this is very low so likely won't be added.

I get the intent but there is many ways that accomplish same thing. It looks alright on mobile since it fits the mobile design enough which I assume is what many people are using anyway is their phones but desktop mode it doesnt feel right IMO makes MALs forum design look even more dated than it is. Maybe it just needs more tweaking at least, i don't know. Maybe it's because the pure white background and everywhere else except there like I would expect to see those colours near an off white background or maybe it's just how blue text on a redish background looks. I cant quite place my finger on it. I know part of it is not really the full row but alternates through columns and how the colour just fills up a lot of blank space giving attention to blank space as much as actual important info. If it was a not so muted colour as a highlight on sticky (or sticky as an icon) I dont think it would be any more overlooked.

If the point is helping newer users and they cant even notice things like the word "sticky" that is bolded even if it were highlighted then they probably need a whole popup bubble system to guide them on everything on MAL (which of course should be able to be turned off if a user doesnt want it). Do you get what I mean by a popup bubble system? Im sure you've seen it either in your browser on a fresh install or on phone apps or on some websites at some point. I know that sounds sarcastic but it really would better accomplish getting people to know how to use the forum and the site which will cut down on repeated questions. Not that I think it's a must just it seems a better more encompassing alternative approach to those kind of users without it being a problem for those who dont want it as they can simply turn it off .

Ah I see. I was mostly right. Thanks for clearing up what triggers the colours.

Yeah I really dont agree with OPs sentiment on adding so many colours it will look like a pastel box and more than two colours seems totally unnecessary and can be confusing.
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