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Jul 22, 2021 2:02 PM
#1
The ending of episode 1 was disturbing. Very much so. The show overall looks very promising, but if there are going to be more rape scenes it's going to get very hard to watch. I'll be fine if it's adapted as it is in goblin slayer for example; dark and disturbing, as it should be. But if they're gonna turn it into an artistic spectacle with classical music playing then I'm out. That's just way too fucked up. That goes beyond simply being dark and reaches sociopathic levels of fucked up. |
Jul 22, 2021 2:11 PM
#2
Haven't seen the episode yet, but having read the manga, I can say there should be a couple more weird scenes but nothing like that. That said, I think there are untranslated chapters so if they reach that point then I'm not sure. |
Jul 22, 2021 4:06 PM
#3
It's a dark ecchi fantasy, I mean if that kind of stuff offends you why are you watching it in the first place? |
Jul 22, 2021 5:11 PM
#4
I too got upset about that scene but seeing as the show seems to be going for some sort of "the world is messed up and the gods don't care" with all the gore they also showed us I would say that scene was just to set the tone. |
Jul 22, 2021 5:27 PM
#5
Yeah it was quite unexpected and disturbing. I didn't think that this show would pull a "Clockwork orange" in this first episode |
Jul 22, 2021 5:40 PM
#6
I definitely felt that it was poorly handled, especially with the very happy bright ED coming right after it... It wasn't particularly upsetting for me but it did leave a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. I guess it does set the tone for what those particular humans are like though, given the second episode. |
Jul 22, 2021 6:15 PM
#7
arshiapolygons2 said: I want to kill themOmankoMan said: The ending of episode 1 was disturbing. Very much so. The show overall looks very promising, but if there are going to be more rape scenes it's going to get very hard to watch. I'll be fine if it's adapted as it is in goblin slayer for example; dark and disturbing, as it should be. But if they're gonna turn it into an artistic spectacle with classical music playing then I'm out. That's just way too fucked up. That goes beyond simply being dark and reaches sociopathic levels of fucked up. it seems to be a gory show at times. and it seems like you don't like gore, which is fine. but i didn't really find it disturbing. it could have been much worse. they even blacked out the body getting torn. as far as disturbing gore goes, this wasn't that bad. |
Jul 22, 2021 6:19 PM
#8
No there is not going to be anything as bad as that for the known future. |
Jul 22, 2021 6:20 PM
#9
There will be other dark scenes, but no more on screen rapes. |
Jul 22, 2021 6:21 PM
#10
No idea how anyone find that disturbing when they barely showed anything. I'm actually disappointed because it is just an implied raped. I would like to see everything like they did in Redo of healer |
Jul 22, 2021 8:39 PM
#11
There is child rape also think so |
Jul 22, 2021 8:40 PM
#12
Nikhilabhi123 said: and I hate that kind of thingsThere is child rape also think so |
Jul 22, 2021 8:43 PM
#13
frrs said: wht do u mean by thatThere will be other dark scenes, but no more on screen rapes. |
Jul 22, 2021 8:56 PM
#15
Nikhilabhi123 said: frrs said: wht do u mean by thatThere will be other dark scenes, but no more on screen rapes. What I just said. There will be dark scenes, but of different topics. There is no more on screen rape. |
Jul 22, 2021 8:58 PM
#16
frrs said: is there child rapeNikhilabhi123 said: frrs said: There will be other dark scenes, but no more on screen rapes. What I just said. There will be dark scenes, but of different topics. There is no more on screen rape. |
Jul 22, 2021 9:05 PM
#17
Nikhilabhi123 said: frrs said: is there child rapeNikhilabhi123 said: frrs said: wht do u mean by thatThere will be other dark scenes, but no more on screen rapes. What I just said. There will be dark scenes, but of different topics. There is no more on screen rape. No, at least nothing so far in the manga. Rape happens off screen in the villains base as it's a necessary part of their plan, they have the soldiers kidnap and impregnate women so they give birth in Zoble so they can take the babies, which are then merged with newborn Demons to give them human form and intelligence |
Jul 22, 2021 9:16 PM
#18
OmankoMan said: The ending of episode 1 was disturbing. Very much so. The show overall looks very promising, but if there are going to be more rape scenes it's going to get very hard to watch. I'll be fine if it's adapted as it is in goblin slayer for example; dark and disturbing, as it should be. But if they're gonna turn it into an artistic spectacle with classical music playing then I'm out. That's just way too fucked up. That goes beyond simply being dark and reaches sociopathic levels of fucked up. I agree dude..i might stop watching it if there's more scene like that...it's really disturb me..well ofcuz I hope there will no more scene like that..but if there's still have it..than i will stop watching it.. |
Jul 22, 2021 10:32 PM
#19
You all talking about the ending of first ep as disturbing, but the most disturbing thing was in the second ep where the army men scream that they want to rape virgins, wives in front of their husband, little girls and shots. That scene was dark. |
Jul 22, 2021 10:33 PM
#20
firstawahono said: thematically it would make sense in berserk. But now imagine the scene with Griffith but it has a neon pink filter over it and classical music playing. THAT would be wrong. Very wrong.I've seen berserk, this is nothing for me hahaha |
Jul 22, 2021 11:29 PM
#21
Well, it definitelly caught me off guard, but i think it served it's purpose. Based on what i've heard, it was worse in the manga. I wonder if this show will be cancelled on twitter, i can totally see that happening now. |
Jul 23, 2021 12:51 AM
#22
Nikhilabhi123 said: arshiapolygons2 said: I want to kill themOmankoMan said: The ending of episode 1 was disturbing. Very much so. The show overall looks very promising, but if there are going to be more rape scenes it's going to get very hard to watch. I'll be fine if it's adapted as it is in goblin slayer for example; dark and disturbing, as it should be. But if they're gonna turn it into an artistic spectacle with classical music playing then I'm out. That's just way too fucked up. That goes beyond simply being dark and reaches sociopathic levels of fucked up. it seems to be a gory show at times. and it seems like you don't like gore, which is fine. but i didn't really find it disturbing. it could have been much worse. they even blacked out the body getting torn. as far as disturbing gore goes, this wasn't that bad. oh... i had watched episode 2 instead of one by mistake, now it makes a lot more sense. |
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Jul 23, 2021 2:20 AM
#23
OmankoMan said: The ending of episode 1 was disturbing. Very much so. username definitely does not check out! lmao In all seriousness though, others have pointed out that the nun scene was "necessary" for the worldbuilding and setting the tone for the story. Just like the other guy mentioned, I too have read Berserk (and also watch/read a fair amount of hentai in the side) so I guess I was desensitized and not too shocked/disturbed at what happened to the nun in the end. (I mean, you kinda already knew what was going to happen, when you see Stahlhelm-wearing soldiers with nefarious grins on their faces...) has a neon pink filter over it and classical music playing. THAT would be wrong. Very wrong. I just thought of it as their way of censoring that scene instead of making it very graphic. I didn't think the music and bright colors made it a celebratory event, (at least it didn't have that kind of impact on me). |
Jul 23, 2021 3:44 AM
#24
bhupesh_p_s said: You all talking about the ending of first ep as disturbing, but the most disturbing thing was in the second ep where the army men scream that they want to rape virgins, wives in front of their husband, little girls and shots. That scene was dark. That was a comedic scene. The contrast of something horrible being presented in such a jubilent and upbeat manner and the entire framing of the scene was obviously for comedic effect. Do you actually watch those dumb nazi loser yelling that stuff in chibi mode and feel "I'm so disturbed!!!!" |
Jul 23, 2021 4:43 AM
#25
Draculoid said: it wasn't funny it was just disgusting imo She clearly didn't want that so the music didn't helpbhupesh_p_s said: You all talking about the ending of first ep as disturbing, but the most disturbing thing was in the second ep where the army men scream that they want to rape virgins, wives in front of their husband, little girls and shots. That scene was dark. That was a comedic scene. The contrast of something horrible being presented in such a jubilent and upbeat manner and the entire framing of the scene was obviously for comedic effect. Do you actually watch those dumb nazi loser yelling that stuff in chibi mode and feel "I'm so disturbed!!!!" |
Jul 23, 2021 4:47 AM
#26
Draculoid said: LMAO! A nun is getting raped by a bunch of bastards but the creators make light of the situation! Aah yes now I see it. Thank you for opening my eyes to this extraordinary piece of humor.bhupesh_p_s said: You all talking about the ending of first ep as disturbing, but the most disturbing thing was in the second ep where the army men scream that they want to rape virgins, wives in front of their husband, little girls and shots. That scene was dark. That was a comedic scene. The contrast of something horrible being presented in such a jubilent and upbeat manner and the entire framing of the scene was obviously for comedic effect. Do you actually watch those dumb nazi loser yelling that stuff in chibi mode and feel "I'm so disturbed!!!!" Anyone who unironically found the scene funny has to be a sociopath. |
Jul 23, 2021 7:11 AM
#27
kriissyy12 said: Shut up, please. HAHA GUYS LET'S RAPE A NUN AND BLAST CLASSICAL MUSIC WHILE WE DO IT AND DANCE THAT"S SO FUNNY HAHAHA. Berserk is a dark fantasy. AOT is a dark fantasy. Dorohedoro is a dark fantasy. I don't recall any of those anime using rape as a JOKE. Rape in Berserk is never used as a joke and is always painted as disgusting, whereas here it was used for laughs. There's a limit to dark comedy. If you actually found that funny in any way you should kill yourself.It's a dark ecchi fantasy, I mean if that kind of stuff offends you why are you watching it in the first place? |
Jul 23, 2021 7:13 AM
#28
thepath said: Everybody thinks it's disgusting because it's painted out as a joke. Rape isn't something to joke about. And if you use the "dark comedy" excuse, there's a limit to dark comedy.No idea how anyone find that disturbing when they barely showed anything. I'm actually disappointed because it is just an implied raped. I would like to see everything like they did in Redo of healer |
Jul 23, 2021 7:16 AM
#29
Xesty17 said: kriissyy12 said: Shut the fuck up. HAHA GUYS LET'S RAPE A NUN AND BLAST CLASSICAL MUSIC WHILE WE DO IT AND DANCE THAT"S SO FUNNY HAHAHA. Berserk is a dark fantasy. AOT is a dark fantasy. Dorohedoro is a dark fantasy. I don't recall any of those anime using rape as a JOKE. Rape in Berserk is never used as a joke and is always painted as disgusting, whereas here it was used for laughs. There's a limit to dark comedy.It's a dark ecchi fantasy, I mean if that kind of stuff offends you why are you watching it in the first place? Then drop it and stop moaning, I also don't get how you think that scene was intended as a joke. The Anime is weird, the artstyle is weird, the characters are weird and when there's serious scenes its' going to be presented in a weird way. |
Jul 23, 2021 7:24 AM
#30
kriissyy12 said: Yes, obviously the scene would be interpreted as an attempt at a joke when you have a pink filter slapped on with classical music blaring. I also already did drop it. If you genuinely didn't see a problem with how that scene was presented, I hope you do some serious self- reflection.Xesty17 said: kriissyy12 said: It's a dark ecchi fantasy, I mean if that kind of stuff offends you why are you watching it in the first place? Then drop it and stop moaning, I also don't get how you think that scene was intended as a joke. The Anime is weird, the artstyle is weird, the characters are weird and when there's serious scenes its' going to be presented in a weird way. |
Jul 23, 2021 7:40 AM
#31
Xesty17 said: kriissyy12 said: Shut up, please. HAHA GUYS LET'S RAPE A NUN AND BLAST CLASSICAL MUSIC WHILE WE DO IT AND DANCE THAT"S SO FUNNY HAHAHA. Berserk is a dark fantasy. AOT is a dark fantasy. Dorohedoro is a dark fantasy. I don't recall any of those anime using rape as a JOKE. Rape in Berserk is never used as a joke and is always painted as disgusting, whereas here it was used for laughs. There's a limit to dark comedy. If you actually found that funny in any way you should kill yourself.It's a dark ecchi fantasy, I mean if that kind of stuff offends you why are you watching it in the first place? If you think they made fun of rape in this episode, I seriously think the problem is on you and not on the show |
Jul 23, 2021 7:45 AM
#32
Xesty17 said: kriissyy12 said: Yes, obviously the scene would be interpreted as an attempt at a joke when you have a pink filter slapped on with classical music blaring. I also already did drop it. If you genuinely didn't see a problem with how that scene was presented, I hope you do some serious self- reflection.Xesty17 said: kriissyy12 said: Shut the fuck up. HAHA GUYS LET'S RAPE A NUN AND BLAST CLASSICAL MUSIC WHILE WE DO IT AND DANCE THAT"S SO FUNNY HAHAHA. Berserk is a dark fantasy. AOT is a dark fantasy. Dorohedoro is a dark fantasy. I don't recall any of those anime using rape as a JOKE. Rape in Berserk is never used as a joke and is always painted as disgusting, whereas here it was used for laughs. There's a limit to dark comedy.It's a dark ecchi fantasy, I mean if that kind of stuff offends you why are you watching it in the first place? Then drop it and stop moaning, I also don't get how you think that scene was intended as a joke. The Anime is weird, the artstyle is weird, the characters are weird and when there's serious scenes its' going to be presented in a weird way. I really can't go through this same argument with people everytime there's a rape scene in Anime. First off it wasn't presented as a joke, no one other than you thinks it was supposed to be a joke. Secondly it's fiction, the characters aren't real, they didn't even show her bottom half unlike a certain other well known rape fantasy show. I don't need to do some self-reflection because I'm not offended by a fake rape scene, I would be really worried for my mental health if I actually did take Anime seriously enough to be upset over it. |
Jul 23, 2021 7:50 AM
#33
Xesty17 said: kriissyy12 said: Yes, obviously the scene would be interpreted as an attempt at a joke when you have a pink filter slapped on with classical music blaring. I also already did drop it. If you genuinely didn't see a problem with how that scene was presented, I hope you do some serious self- reflection.Xesty17 said: kriissyy12 said: Shut the fuck up. HAHA GUYS LET'S RAPE A NUN AND BLAST CLASSICAL MUSIC WHILE WE DO IT AND DANCE THAT"S SO FUNNY HAHAHA. Berserk is a dark fantasy. AOT is a dark fantasy. Dorohedoro is a dark fantasy. I don't recall any of those anime using rape as a JOKE. Rape in Berserk is never used as a joke and is always painted as disgusting, whereas here it was used for laughs. There's a limit to dark comedy.It's a dark ecchi fantasy, I mean if that kind of stuff offends you why are you watching it in the first place? Then drop it and stop moaning, I also don't get how you think that scene was intended as a joke. The Anime is weird, the artstyle is weird, the characters are weird and when there's serious scenes its' going to be presented in a weird way. i agree with you, mappa really messed up that scene. compared to that manga version portrayed it really well about how helpless human being in that world. a corpse lying around the street, and a nun who seeking god help brutally raped. while the idaten who born from human prayer and will don't care about that because they think their job aren't to save good human from evil, but to prevent mankind from extinction. |
Jul 23, 2021 11:53 AM
#34
Xesty17 said: thepath said: Everybody thinks it's disgusting because it's painted out as a joke. Rape isn't something to joke about. And if you use the "dark comedy" excuse, there's a limit to dark comedy.No idea how anyone find that disturbing when they barely showed anything. I'm actually disappointed because it is just an implied raped. I would like to see everything like they did in Redo of healer 1- Not everyone think it is disgusting. I know many people who did not, and I myself did not feel anything about that scene. 2- Who decide the limit to dark comedy ?? You ?! I say there is noting wrong with joking about fictional rape and I don't believe there should be any limits to dark comedy. I'm glad that anime producers agree with me. |
thepathJul 23, 2021 11:57 AM
Jul 23, 2021 1:32 PM
#35
thepath said: No idea how anyone find that disturbing when they barely showed anything. I'm actually disappointed because it is just an implied raped. I would like to see everything like they did in Redo of healer Wtf is wrong with you????? |
Jul 23, 2021 1:35 PM
#37
kriissyy12 said: its not categorized as ecchi and there were 0 ecchi scenes in ep 1It's a dark ecchi fantasy, I mean if that kind of stuff offends you why are you watching it in the first place? |
Jul 23, 2021 1:37 PM
#38
Jul 23, 2021 1:40 PM
#39
thepath said: It was unexpected and caught everyone off guard, when in redo of healer everyone knew what theyre getting into. Also wdym by dissapointed because they didnt show anything i would like to know, Im really hoping you werent expecting porn for you to get off :(No idea how anyone find that disturbing when they barely showed anything. I'm actually disappointed because it is just an implied raped. I would like to see everything like they did in Redo of healer |
Jul 23, 2021 1:42 PM
#40
sanetoshii said: it was probably trying to make it more lighthearthed instead of funny so i wouldnt puke.Wouldn’t have been as bad if it weren’t for that stupid music during the scene. That music was an effort to make the event comedic which is absolutely disgusting and disturbing. |
Jul 23, 2021 2:25 PM
#41
Gangloff said: kriissyy12 said: its not categorized as ecchi and there were 0 ecchi scenes in ep 1It's a dark ecchi fantasy, I mean if that kind of stuff offends you why are you watching it in the first place? It literally has a 18+ rating on Crunchyroll, it's your responsibility to decide if you can handle it or not. |
Jul 23, 2021 2:48 PM
#42
Xesty17 said: kriissyy12 said: Shut up, please. HAHA GUYS LET'S RAPE A NUN AND BLAST CLASSICAL MUSIC WHILE WE DO IT AND DANCE THAT"S SO FUNNY HAHAHA. Berserk is a dark fantasy. AOT is a dark fantasy. Dorohedoro is a dark fantasy. I don't recall any of those anime using rape as a JOKE. Rape in Berserk is never used as a joke and is always painted as disgusting, whereas here it was used for laughs. There's a limit to dark comedy. If you actually found that funny in any way you should kill yourself.It's a dark ecchi fantasy, I mean if that kind of stuff offends you why are you watching it in the first place? At what point in this person’s comment did they ever say they thought this scene was funny? The only one who actually believes this scene was a joke is you. You’re an idiot if you really believe this scene was intended as a joke because of its presentation. You’re also making yourself look like a real ass by telling this person to kill themself. Seems like you’re projecting your own problems onto someone else’s comment by putting words into their mouth. Congrats you’re a fucking clown. |
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Jul 23, 2021 2:56 PM
#43
sanetoshii said: Wouldn’t have been as bad if it weren’t for that stupid music during the scene. That music was an effort to make the event comedic which is absolutely disgusting and disturbing. How. The scene was disturbing. Yes that’s the point. But in no way was it meant to be comedic. You took it the wrong way. That’s all there is to it. |
Jul 23, 2021 11:23 PM
#44
OmankoMan said: I wasn't referring to that scene. I was responding to the persons comment on the scene in episode two. Please learn how to read. I'm shocked TWO people couldn't figure out what was being talked about.Draculoid said: LMAO! A nun is getting raped by a bunch of bastards but the creators make light of the situation! Aah yes now I see it. Thank you for opening my eyes to this extraordinary piece of humor.bhupesh_p_s said: You all talking about the ending of first ep as disturbing, but the most disturbing thing was in the second ep where the army men scream that they want to rape virgins, wives in front of their husband, little girls and shots. That scene was dark. That was a comedic scene. The contrast of something horrible being presented in such a jubilent and upbeat manner and the entire framing of the scene was obviously for comedic effect. Do you actually watch those dumb nazi loser yelling that stuff in chibi mode and feel "I'm so disturbed!!!!" Anyone who unironically found the scene funny has to be a sociopath. |
Jul 23, 2021 11:25 PM
#45
Draculoid said: It was more like a dark comedy.bhupesh_p_s said: You all talking about the ending of first ep as disturbing, but the most disturbing thing was in the second ep where the army men scream that they want to rape virgins, wives in front of their husband, little girls and shots. That scene was dark. That was a comedic scene. The contrast of something horrible being presented in such a jubilent and upbeat manner and the entire framing of the scene was obviously for comedic effect. Do you actually watch those dumb nazi loser yelling that stuff in chibi mode and feel "I'm so disturbed!!!!" |
Jul 23, 2021 11:28 PM
#46
Draculoid said: MAL comments are a quite difficult to figure out. But yeah as far as that scene in episode 2 goes it was fine. I didn't laugh, but it's within the boundaries of what dark comedy should be, unlike the scene in episode 1. Sorry I read your comment wrong.OmankoMan said: I wasn't referring to that scene. I was responding to the persons comment on the scene in episode two. Please learn how to read. I'm shocked TWO people couldn't figure out what was being talked about.Draculoid said: bhupesh_p_s said: You all talking about the ending of first ep as disturbing, but the most disturbing thing was in the second ep where the army men scream that they want to rape virgins, wives in front of their husband, little girls and shots. That scene was dark. That was a comedic scene. The contrast of something horrible being presented in such a jubilent and upbeat manner and the entire framing of the scene was obviously for comedic effect. Do you actually watch those dumb nazi loser yelling that stuff in chibi mode and feel "I'm so disturbed!!!!" Anyone who unironically found the scene funny has to be a sociopath. |
Jul 31, 2021 11:08 PM
#47
A_manhwa_reader said: You all talking about the ending of first ep as disturbing, but the most disturbing thing was in the second ep where the army men scream that they want to rape virgins, wives in front of their husband, little girls and shots. That scene was dark. In my country translation those guy also says..... also says..... Don't read this or you'll regret it. Ugly bastard, that's literaly what the translation said, wtf is wrong with these guy in the army? Do they really want to fuck ugly bastard like wtf? You can clearly hear the line at 10:06 . I shocked when I hear that, even without subtitle, every weeb know what it meant |
Aug 1, 2021 5:28 AM
#48
OmankoMan said: The ending of episode 1 was disturbing. Very much so. The show overall looks very promising, but if there are going to be more rape scenes it's going to get very hard to watch. I'll be fine if it's adapted as it is in goblin slayer for example; dark and disturbing, as it should be. But if they're gonna turn it into an artistic spectacle with classical music playing then I'm out. That's just way too fucked up. That goes beyond simply being dark and reaches sociopathic levels of fucked up. That artistic spectacle was actually very dark and disturbing. I think it was even more so than a Goblin Slayer kind of thing, since it contrast the violence of the scenes and the fun that the rapists are having while doing so, for me it was peak direction there |
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Aug 1, 2021 6:35 AM
#49
Having already watched soviet anti-war film "Come and see" ("Idi i smotri" 1985) about the real nazi crimes commited against soviet people, this scene didn't stroke me as hard, as it could. The problem is that the suddenness of this scene in a pretty childish anime setting is very vilely, meanly toward relaxed audience. I think that two nukes wasn't enought. |
Aug 1, 2021 6:36 AM
#50
Xesty17 said: kriissyy12 said: Shut up, please. HAHA GUYS LET'S RAPE A NUN AND BLAST CLASSICAL MUSIC WHILE WE DO IT AND DANCE THAT"S SO FUNNY HAHAHA. Berserk is a dark fantasy. AOT is a dark fantasy. Dorohedoro is a dark fantasy. I don't recall any of those anime using rape as a JOKE. Rape in Berserk is never used as a joke and is always painted as disgusting, whereas here it was used for laughs. There's a limit to dark comedy. If you actually found that funny in any way you should kill yourself.It's a dark ecchi fantasy, I mean if that kind of stuff offends you why are you watching it in the first place? It was never used as a joke here. Using classical music to contrast with the violence of the scene is something that has been done before in countless movies. |
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