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Jun 11, 2021 2:33 PM

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People randomly bash the mha fandom saying it's toxic but the majority of the time,it isn't.
There are really wholesome non toxic comic dumbs,fan animation,and really good AMVs you'll see here on Mha fandom.

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Jun 11, 2021 2:40 PM

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Yeah, I mean sure if the top voted ship was the Kyoto school principal x Momo than I’d understand OP’s pov but this is a whole nothing burger.
the top one was between a 15 years old boy and his 28 years old mentor, a lot of the fandom seems to forget that they are 15
Bruh you’re freaking out because fan girls are shipping fictional characters together that look the same age and that are the same sex. Go outside.
Jun 11, 2021 2:54 PM
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Yeah, I've even stumbled upon people that seriously think Gojo beats Goku lmao.
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Nah the mha Fandom is much more toxic as the jjk Fandom tbh no scratch that the my hero Fandom is on another level of toxic
Jun 11, 2021 2:58 PM
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Every decently big fanbase is toxic. JJK fandom is hardly the only one that has a heavy concentration of pedo ships.
Jun 11, 2021 4:36 PM
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Everyone should just like whatever they like. If you don't like it , don't have to watch it. Everything is toxic these days.
Jun 11, 2021 7:03 PM
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The fangirls are the most toxic, shipping male characters, proud of being horny and posting cringe and not funny memes.
Jun 11, 2021 7:09 PM
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Who cares? Fandom behavior doesn’t affect my enjoyment of a show whatsoever.


Me too. I like a lot of anime with toxic fandoms. K-On as an example
Jun 11, 2021 7:14 PM

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From I've seen so far its really not that bad (unless manga spoilers count) compared to mha. Mha is way worse especially when it comes to the shipping..... Ugh....

Regardless to the point all fandoms have their toxic sides.

Jun 11, 2021 7:20 PM
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It ain’t that big of a deal, some of y’all so dramatic. Show is nice, a bad fandom doesn’t mean bad show
Jun 11, 2021 8:16 PM
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All this talk of toxic fandoms and nobody’s mentioned Voltron or Genshin lol.

But seriously, every fandom has its toxic sides. The most popular ones will simply become more public with it. MHA may seem bad but only bc it is bigger. Other fandoms could have done even worse things.

As for the subject here, I feel I’m not the only one who misinterpreted your definition of toxic. Fandoms are toxic bc of you people, those who harass those who are simply enjoying themselves or try to police how fans should enjoy something. Ships that you consider toxic have literally always been around and always will be. They’ve never made things like pedophilia (or as the someone pointed out the proper term, ephebophilia) normalized. Because most people are aware of the difference between fiction and reality. Some fiction follows reality, sure. But this is no different than the staggering amount of violence we see in media, to the point that we are all desensitized to it. (And you can’t say violence isn’t ever romanticized either. We all want to be able to escape to another world and go feral sometimes).
Jun 11, 2021 8:19 PM
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I don't think it's quite there yet but given the popularity of the series, it shouldn't be super surprising




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Moe132 said:
Never really thought any fandom would be close to mha fandom toxicity wise but oh boy i was wrong, the toxic (minor-adult) ships are more popular than the normal ones. the fandom is not as toxic as mha since gege didn't get any harassment (yet?) For the ships but it's getting there, we are only 1 season in and the pedophilia is through the roof.


IDK. I just move around manga readers circles and they are pretty chill, but maybe the anime onlies are a little bit crazy and I didn't realize it. One zay they'll watch Shibuya, realize this story isn't about ships and (hopefully) leave this fandom or chill
Jun 11, 2021 10:58 PM

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I mean it's bad but not that bad like MHA Fandom...
Jun 11, 2021 11:03 PM

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yeah there are some weird ships but there are weird ships in pretty much all the big fandoms (not just anime/manga ones) so i don't really use ships to rate a fandom's toxicity lol. at least the jjk fandom hasn't harrassed/sent death threats to the author.
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Damn, what a snowflake...
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Jun 12, 2021 1:13 AM

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If you think fucking shipping is the problem it's highly likely you are one of the toxic fans. Leave the fujos alone you sensitive idiot unlike the people that harassed Horikoshi they aren't doing anything wrong.

Ambiguous gay drawings fucking each other is not contributing to pedophilia when they can literally represent anything. Honestly the overt moral crusading in the MHA fandoms is also a really annoying aspect of it. If you felt that strongly about it you would turn yourself in for being a criminal for just seeing one of those MHA fanservice scenes.
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ok my response to you is with all due respect so if i offend you anyway im sorry, ok first thing is about perspective, i totally agree with i don't except anyone to read or watch a story and think the same thoughts that i have or understood the story the same way i did that's why i dont have a problem with shippers even though i dislike shipping but every one to his own (unless you start forcing your ships on others like what aot fans do).

Now you talk about opinions, it's not a terrible opinion. shipping minors with adults means that they are giving pedophilia a platform, They are normalising and romanticising pedophilia and it doesn't matter if its fictional or not because guess what? It's a story and stories affect the human brain. Your logic with "some people agree with it and some disagree with it" can be used on anything bad, I'll give you an example

Oh well some people think racism is ok and some people don't so it's an opinion. See?



I mean no offense either, but I hope that I can phrase my counter argument in such a way that this preface is unnecessary.


First of all, I think it's time to address the definitions used here. You're referring to pedophilia, while ephebophilia is the words you're looking for. None of the characters are prepubescent, and depending on in what country you live, they are already past the age of consent. So, as far as I'm concerned your concern with JJK is a moot point.
But let's go over your arguments anyway.

shipping minors with adults means that they are giving pedophilia a platform

They don't support pedophilia. Those are fictional characters. And by that argument, some anime give pedophilia a platform too. Besides, this list with ships isn't even an inherently sexual thing, unlike some anime which sexualise young female characters. I took the liberty to take a look at your list to come up with an example we had both watched.
You watched Kaguya-sama which has quite a bit of ecchi in the OVA (which admittedly, you haven't watched yet, but you know the franchise), and thus sexualises minors. According to you, then that show gives pedophilia a platform either.


They are normalising and romanticising pedophilia and it doesn't matter if its fictional or not because guess what? It's a story and stories affect the human brain.

It does matter whether it's fictional or not. By your logic, we shouldn't watch JJK either, because it features violence -- and stories affect the human brain.
Will certain types of stories attract certain audiences? Probably. But that doesn't mean that seeing that list with ships will immediately turn you into a ephebophile. You can enjoy stories that feature questionable content without feeling the urge to replicate those things or act upon it. It's just fiction. You don't have to share that view, of course, but some fanarts or a list with ships does not mean that the shippers condone pedophilia in real life.
You can watch or read things that you do not agree with without them affecting who you are.

And I find it incredibly difficult to believe that JJK attracts pedophiles as an audience in the first place. But even if this show did do that. You're putting a responsibility on the shoulders of the shippers that does not belong there. It is not their responsibility to prevent pedophiles from seeing the content they produce.

Same. I find it hard to blame the media or the shipper to be the fault for P*dophilla to have a safe space. It's the same argument of violent video games make you into a violent loving psychopaths' and allow safe spaces for actual school shooters. Just because they ship some fictional character does not mean that they are not against the actual crime.
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Every popular anime's fandom gets toxic eventually. There's no preventing it. I'm not talking about ships just the show in general. Right now, Boruto and Black Clover has the most chill fandom in new generation.
Jun 12, 2021 1:35 AM

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Nah,they're not as toxic as CSM here,where if you dare to critic their series,you have a death threat by sliced by denji in his chainsaw form
Jun 12, 2021 2:53 AM

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God, how can you have the self-awareness of a kid? Do you realise there are ships in every fandom right? Even "underaged" ones, yes. Do you know why not every fandom is toxic? Because it isn't famous enough for people like you to appear and act like a social warrior trying to stop people from doing whatever the fuck they want. So stop trying to flip the coin, you are the problem, not the shippers.
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The fangirls are the most toxic, shipping male characters, proud of being horny and posting cringe and not funny memes.

So shipping male characters is toxic, but not shipping in general? Interesting.

I'm just really baffled by what I just read.
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Anything that gets popular has eventually a toxic fandom. It’s not a competition who is more cancerous or not though. It’s always bad but we can’t do anything bout that
nah there are some chill fandoms like kny, black clover (even though i didn't watch it) and chainsaw man ( hopefully it stays the same after the anime release). Also one peice fandom although they are annoying as hell i don't see them harrasing the writers or shipping minors.



Bro wtf r u talking about shipping minors anime in general have minors that date older men in their shows so how is that there fault?? Anime normalized that so you can't blame these kids that see it in these shows that they love and makes them think it's okay. If that's really your reason for them being toxic then the only toxic one is you.
Jun 12, 2021 4:20 AM

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MHA is like uncomparable when it comes to toxicity. JJK doesn't even come close.
Jun 12, 2021 4:57 AM
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Some people really trying to say that it's okay to ship pedophilia lmao
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Some people really trying to say that it's okay to ship pedophilia lmao


You didn't know this?

As a good friend used to tell me "You cut a weeb, and a pedophile bleeds"
Jun 12, 2021 7:51 AM
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I don't think that shipping minors with adults is something toxic but it's not right either. I have to agree with the people that say that every popular anime, show, movie, book, game etc has a Fandom that a part of it is toxic. On the other hand of course there are the fans of the show that just enjoy watching it and don't really associate with the Fandom. I think being in the position these people are is the best since the toxicity doesn't really bother you since you are not part of the Fandom. Now my overall opinion on your statement is that no I don't think jjk has reached the mha Fandom at all. I don't think any Fandom can be that weird (not toxic because not all of the mha fandom is).
Jun 12, 2021 7:41 PM
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Wait what happened why is JJK toxic
Jun 12, 2021 11:01 PM

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Yikes the exaggeration is through the roof if anything. Get a clue dude. Literally every fandom has a toxic side on twitter, so just leave twitter if it bothers you that much.
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Just wait CSM get animated lol
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Just wait CSM get animated lol

CSM already has horny fans.Imagine the fandom after it gets an anime.

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Never really thought any fandom would be close to mha fandom toxicity wise but oh boy i was wrong, the toxic (minor-adult) ships are more popular than the normal ones. the fandom is not as toxic as mha since gege didn't get any harassment (yet?) For the ships but it's getting there, we are only 1 season in and the pedophilia is through the roof.

attack fandom say jJK fandom and MHA is toxic?
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Wait what happened why is JJK toxic
It's not. What we have here is a timeless, unchanging law known as human nature. You see, when humans gather in large communities and channel their unbridled passions & emotions, you're not always going to see the best and brightest at work.

Using the term "Toxic" is just a generic, ambiguous cop-out so that people can turn their minds off and unironically become just as "toxic" through self-justification.
Jun 13, 2021 2:11 AM
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I don't use twitter so I wouldn't know

Anyway I freaking love jujutsu kaisen but if you hate it, that's all good man. you do you bro


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i dont really think the fandom is not that bad but at least it is better than mha
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Jun 13, 2021 3:24 AM
I think u are one of the Twitter users complaining about the Goyuu ship, I hope u aren't one of the those Twitter users being xenophobic against japanese people in that tweet about top 30 ships a few days ago. The ship was #1 trending. Woke culture claims to be tolerant and inclusive but its xenophobic against japanese.

What pedophilia are u talking about? I don't see actual kids in JJK (like Eri from MHA), teens aren't kids lol.

Twitter: "Goyuu is #1 in Japan... time to pour all the Xenophobia, homophobia, puritanism, misogyny and hate speech out, because of people shipping 2 anime characters... sprinkle some slurs here and there, we are the heroes, we are woke, we are gonna save you from your sins". The cherry on top... "StopAsianHate" in bio. There are children being murdered everywhere and they're crying over people shipping two fucking drawings. There was a time when I thought they really worried about pedophilia, but they just hate Japanese people and they act more like "fictional characters right activists".
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This kind of stuff tends to happen with most shonens since sometimes people use their popularity to do "ad populum" fallacies slowly gaining the hate of the rest of the internet community . Comparisons of MHA to other superhero famdoms were too frequent.

But I don't think it's gotten to the point of no return in JJK. Unless the author makes Sukuna omnipotent (giving unreasonable feats). Given the more serious tone since the start of JJK ,it's fandom is quite different from MHA.
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I don’t think the JJK fandom is bad at all, at least when compared to MHA.
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It's expected, to be honest.




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Why is the MHA community considered toxic? I think I've spent too much time with my head in the sand. Somebody let me know.
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I have no idea what people mean when they say a fandom is "toxic", given that they never give any rationale for their belief that it is so. Therefore I'll take the emotivist approach and assume what they mean is something along the lines of "JJK fans boo! {Insert fandom I'm part of} hooray!"
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Am I missing something? I never actually go deep to an anime fandom so can anyone explain what is happening in the toxic part of JJK fandom? Is that just like the ya0! ship or something similar?
Jun 13, 2021 8:40 AM
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It’s fictional as in it’s not real so fans can do whatever the fuck they want. It doesn’t bother me since I don’t pay attention to the toxicity in communities.
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Every fandom has varying levels of toxic. Some shows only has an amount that can only be seen if you're using a microscope, while some can be seen from another galaxy.

Well for Jujutsu Kaisen, although I can already see some toxicity brewing in certain areas, it is NOWHERE NEAR the levels that MHA is at right now. Maybe in a couple of years, it'll get to that point but right now...

Nope it's not that worse, and you're statement is false
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Never really thought any fandom would be close to mha fandom toxicity wise but oh boy i was wrong, the toxic (minor-adult) ships are more popular than the normal ones. the fandom is not as toxic as mha since gege didn't get any harassment (yet?) For the ships but it's getting there, we are only 1 season in and the pedophilia is through the roof.

attack fandom say jJK fandom and MHA is toxic?
Just delete your acc
i didn't say aot fandom isn't toxic lmao
Jun 13, 2021 10:54 AM

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Who cares? Some people like to ship, some don't. Why tf are you butthurt over something like that lmao
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I don't use twitter so I wouldn't know

Anyway I freaking love jujutsu kaisen but if you hate it, that's all good man. you do you bro
oh no i like it, it's on my top 4 new gen shonen after demon slayer, chainsaw man and vinland saga
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Moe132 said:
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I don't use twitter so I wouldn't know

Anyway I freaking love jujutsu kaisen but if you hate it, that's all good man. you do you bro
oh no i like it, it's on my top 4 new gen shonen after demon slayer, chainsaw man and vinland saga


Since when is Vinland Saga a shonen? lmao
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I think u are one of the Twitter users complaining about the Goyuu ship, I hope u aren't one of the those Twitter users being xenophobic against japanese people in that tweet about top 30 ships a few days ago. The ship was #1 trending. Woke culture claims to be tolerant and inclusive but its xenophobic against japanese.

What pedophilia are u talking about? I don't see actual kids in JJK (like Eri from MHA), teens aren't kids lol.

Twitter: "Goyuu is #1 in Japan... time to pour all the Xenophobia, homophobia, puritanism, misogyny and hate speech out, because of people shipping 2 anime characters... sprinkle some slurs here and there, we are the heroes, we are woke, we are gonna save you from your sins". The cherry on top... "StopAsianHate" in bio. There are children being murdered everywhere and they're crying over people shipping two fucking drawings. There was a time when I thought they really worried about pedophilia, but they just hate Japanese people and they act more like "fictional characters right activists".


1- yes im talking about that but also talking in general
2- no i didn't make any xenophobic comments unless you consider saying that list was wrong xenophobic
3- i agree people saying pedophilia is in Japanese culture was racist af
4- i dont care about the "characters feelings" i just dislike that people saying a relationship between a kid and an adult is "cute and hot" which normalise pedophilia but if you disagree good for you
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